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    AJLightning
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2014 - 1:26 PM ET #1

    The final Major of the year is here!! The 2014 PGA Championship will be held at Valhalla GC in Louisville, KY. A beautiful Nicklaus design measuring over 7,400 yards. The Par 71 track has the typical Nicklaus footprint. Not to demanding off the tee but the second shot is what will separate the men from the boys. Got to get it close and in the right quadrant to score. GIR and putting machines should do well this week. 


    Defending Champ is Jason Dufner
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    The final Major of the year is here!! The 2014 PGA Championship will be held at Valhalla GC in Louisville, KY. A beautiful Nicklaus design measuring over 7,400 yards. The Par 71 track has the typical Nicklaus footprint. Not to demanding off the tee but the second shot is what will separate the men from the boys. Got to get it close and in the right quadrant to score. GIR and putting machines should do well this week. 


    Defending Champ is Jason Dufner
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2014 - 2:00 PM ET #2

    Tournament Matchup LEANS:

    McIlroy (-140) over Scott    *

    Scott (-130) over Sergio

    Rose (-110) over Sergio

    Fowler (-125) over Phil    *

    Keegan (-110) over Phil

    Schwartzel (-115) over Bubba    *

    Furyk (-130) over Bubba    *

    McDowell (-140) over Kaymer

    Matsuyama (-110) over Leishman

    Snedeker (-110) over Walker

    Simpson (-120) over Donald

    Reed (-110) over Dubuisson    *

    Cabrera (+120) over Stricker

    Holmes (-140) over Oosthuizen    *

    Watney (+110) over Woodland    *

    Ogilvy (Ev) over Karlsson    *

    Lowry (+105) over Casey    *

    Koepka (+120) over Howell III

    Manassero (-115) over Yul Noh    *

    Jimenez (-130) over Els    

    Jacobson (Ev) over Knox
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    Tournament Matchup LEANS:

    McIlroy (-140) over Scott    *

    Scott (-130) over Sergio

    Rose (-110) over Sergio

    Fowler (-125) over Phil    *

    Keegan (-110) over Phil

    Schwartzel (-115) over Bubba    *

    Furyk (-130) over Bubba    *

    McDowell (-140) over Kaymer

    Matsuyama (-110) over Leishman

    Snedeker (-110) over Walker

    Simpson (-120) over Donald

    Reed (-110) over Dubuisson    *

    Cabrera (+120) over Stricker

    Holmes (-140) over Oosthuizen    *

    Watney (+110) over Woodland    *

    Ogilvy (Ev) over Karlsson    *

    Lowry (+105) over Casey    *

    Koepka (+120) over Howell III

    Manassero (-115) over Yul Noh    *

    Jimenez (-130) over Els    

    Jacobson (Ev) over Knox
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2014 - 2:01 PM ET #3

    thoughts...suggestions...prayers....all welcome

    these are a quick look through the matchups, no research....

    these are also out there for line movement monitoring....


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    thoughts...suggestions...prayers....all welcome

    these are a quick look through the matchups, no research....

    these are also out there for line movement monitoring....


     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2014 - 2:11 PM ET #4

    why the fade of phil?  seems like he is playing better and loves this course.  BOL.
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    why the fade of phil?  seems like he is playing better and loves this course.  BOL.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2014 - 2:26 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Streakin:

    why the fade of phil?  seems like he is playing better and loves this course.  BOL.

    I think Fowler and Keegan have the better game AT THE MOMENT.

    Phil with no Top 10's this year...

    Keegan T4 in three of his last six starts...

    Fowler Top 5 in first three Majors this year...

    The only thing that scares me is Phil can go all out with the driver at Valhalla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Streakin:

    why the fade of phil?  seems like he is playing better and loves this course.  BOL.

    I think Fowler and Keegan have the better game AT THE MOMENT.

    Phil with no Top 10's this year...

    Keegan T4 in three of his last six starts...

    Fowler Top 5 in first three Majors this year...

    The only thing that scares me is Phil can go all out with the driver at Valhalla
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2014 - 4:02 PM ET #6

    Hard to argue with his season thus far, but he seemed to get things going on Sat and Sun in Akron.  And he loves Vahalla.  As you say, he can go all out with the driver.  I am hesitant but think we see a big week from him.  Thanks for your thoughts.
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    Hard to argue with his season thus far, but he seemed to get things going on Sat and Sun in Akron.  And he loves Vahalla.  As you say, he can go all out with the driver.  I am hesitant but think we see a big week from him.  Thanks for your thoughts.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2014 - 6:23 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Streakin:

    Hard to argue with his season thus far, but he seemed to get things going on Sat and Sun in Akron.  And he loves Vahalla.  As you say, he can go all out with the driver.  I am hesitant but think we see a big week from him.  Thanks for your thoughts.

    I just don't think a good Saturday and Sunday last week is going to get it done this week....IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Streakin:

    Hard to argue with his season thus far, but he seemed to get things going on Sat and Sun in Akron.  And he loves Vahalla.  As you say, he can go all out with the driver.  I am hesitant but think we see a big week from him.  Thanks for your thoughts.

    I just don't think a good Saturday and Sunday last week is going to get it done this week....IMO
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2014 - 7:31 PM ET #8

    a few potential props:

    Top 10
    Reed +600
    Watney +800
    Manassero +1000
    Ogilvy +1000
    Koepka +1500

    Top Australian 
    Ogilvy +1000

    Top Italian
    Manassero +150

    Top Senior
    Perry +200

    Hole In One
    Yes -120
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    a few potential props:

    Top 10
    Reed +600
    Watney +800
    Manassero +1000
    Ogilvy +1000
    Koepka +1500

    Top Australian 
    Ogilvy +1000

    Top Italian
    Manassero +150

    Top Senior
    Perry +200

    Hole In One
    Yes -120
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2014 - 9:19 PM ET #9

    Any thoughts on fowler as top american plus 1000?
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    Any thoughts on fowler as top american plus 1000?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 5, 2014 - 10:39 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Osirus13:

    Any thoughts on fowler as top american plus 1000?

    I over looked the Americans for some reason....

    That's good...but I also like Reed +2500 and Watney +4500 for value
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osirus13:

    Any thoughts on fowler as top american plus 1000?

    I over looked the Americans for some reason....

    That's good...but I also like Reed +2500 and Watney +4500 for value
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2014 - 1:52 AM ET #11

    I know I'm being a square but this is Rory's time to up his game to elite....at 5-1..gonna bite......Fowler at 10-1 top American looks good too....GL....
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    I know I'm being a square but this is Rory's time to up his game to elite....at 5-1..gonna bite......Fowler at 10-1 top American looks good too....GL....
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2014 - 6:59 AM ET #12

    RORY
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    RORY
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2014 - 8:14 AM ET #13

    Books are running scared on Rory afraid to put out the real number I have Rory at  15/1 from an earlier play but I think he should still be 8/1 not 5/1....Value on Kuchar,Bradley, Garcia  and Fowler like Reed for top 10. 
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    Books are running scared on Rory afraid to put out the real number I have Rory at  15/1 from an earlier play but I think he should still be 8/1 not 5/1....Value on Kuchar,Bradley, Garcia  and Fowler like Reed for top 10. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2014 - 11:44 AM ET #14

    Is poulter at +4000 to finish top 20 worth a shot? Hasnt played well i know but 2012 ryder cup at valhalla?
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    Is poulter at +4000 to finish top 20 worth a shot? Hasnt played well i know but 2012 ryder cup at valhalla?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2014 - 1:32 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Osirus13:

    Is poulter at +4000 to finish top 20 worth a shot? Hasnt played well i know but 2012 ryder cup at valhalla?

    He's been having some issues with something...don't remember exactly what though.

    I'd have to pass on that one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osirus13:

    Is poulter at +4000 to finish top 20 worth a shot? Hasnt played well i know but 2012 ryder cup at valhalla?

    He's been having some issues with something...don't remember exactly what though.

    I'd have to pass on that one...
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2014 - 2:32 PM ET #16

    On the Cabrerra bet as well. Just watching PGA on Golf Channel, he Tee off and they mentioned stricker has a torn muscle in his hip, that he and woods are feeling for each other. Cabrerra played OK last week and stricker very poorly.

    I have no idea where the odds came from but @+120 on Cab. is a dream... Making big bet on it...

     

    They are describing course as of course, long, but Iron play is really important, I guess the right side of most greens is open to a good landing and easy puts. That brings a few into play, like Cab, johnson,...

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    On the Cabrerra bet as well. Just watching PGA on Golf Channel, he Tee off and they mentioned stricker has a torn muscle in his hip, that he and woods are feeling for each other. Cabrerra played OK last week and stricker very poorly.

    I have no idea where the odds came from but @+120 on Cab. is a dream... Making big bet on it...

     

    They are describing course as of course, long, but Iron play is really important, I guess the right side of most greens is open to a good landing and easy puts. That brings a few into play, like Cab, johnson,...

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2014 - 3:20 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Pipe-Light:

    On the Cabrerra bet as well. Just watching PGA on Golf Channel, he Tee off and they mentioned stricker has a torn muscle in his hip, that he and woods are feeling for each other. Cabrerra played OK last week and stricker very poorly.

    I have no idea where the odds came from but @+120 on Cab. is a dream... Making big bet on it...

     

    They are describing course as of course, long, but Iron play is really important, I guess the right side of most greens is open to a good landing and easy puts. That brings a few into play, like Cab, johnson,...


    Solid iron play for sure this week....as I said in my OP, this is a second shot track.

    Cabrera down to +110 now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pipe-Light:

    On the Cabrerra bet as well. Just watching PGA on Golf Channel, he Tee off and they mentioned stricker has a torn muscle in his hip, that he and woods are feeling for each other. Cabrerra played OK last week and stricker very poorly.

    I have no idea where the odds came from but @+120 on Cab. is a dream... Making big bet on it...

     

    They are describing course as of course, long, but Iron play is really important, I guess the right side of most greens is open to a good landing and easy puts. That brings a few into play, like Cab, johnson,...


    Solid iron play for sure this week....as I said in my OP, this is a second shot track.

    Cabrera down to +110 now...
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2014 - 7:35 PM ET #18

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    You don't have to drive it well this week...last week they had to and he came out with a T4 (2nd straight WGC top 5).

    He's a decent putter and is strong on Par 4's...

    Oh ya....he's won twice this year too


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    You don't have to drive it well this week...last week they had to and he came out with a T4 (2nd straight WGC top 5).

    He's a decent putter and is strong on Par 4's...

    Oh ya....he's won twice this year too


     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2014 - 9:43 PM ET #19

    1st Round Matchups

    Watney (-120) over Jacobson

    Eldrick (+120) over Phil

    Bjorn (-120) over English

    Holmes (-120) over Donald - 2*


    Tournament Matchups

    Rose (-110) over Sergio - 2*

    Fowler (-120) over Phil - 2*

    Matsuyama (-105) over Leishman - 2*

    Simpson (-125) over Donald - 2*

    Na (-130) over Donaldson - 5*

    Manassero (Ev) over Yul Noh - 2*



     GL TO ALL!!!
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    1st Round Matchups

    Watney (-120) over Jacobson

    Eldrick (+120) over Phil

    Bjorn (-120) over English

    Holmes (-120) over Donald - 2*


    Tournament Matchups

    Rose (-110) over Sergio - 2*

    Fowler (-120) over Phil - 2*

    Matsuyama (-105) over Leishman - 2*

    Simpson (-125) over Donald - 2*

    Na (-130) over Donaldson - 5*

    Manassero (Ev) over Yul Noh - 2*



     GL TO ALL!!!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2014 - 9:56 PM ET #20

    Few props...

    Lowest Round (1 unit)
    63 & Under   +225

    Winning Score (2 units)
    271 & Under   +110

    Top 10 (1 Unit)
    Reed   +600
    Ogilvy   +1000

    Top Senior (2 Units)
    Perry   +200



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    Few props...

    Lowest Round (1 unit)
    63 & Under   +225

    Winning Score (2 units)
    271 & Under   +110

    Top 10 (1 Unit)
    Reed   +600
    Ogilvy   +1000

    Top Senior (2 Units)
    Perry   +200



     
    Osirus13
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2014 - 6:40 AM ET #21

    Man those poulter odds went from +4000 top 20 to +420. Wonder if that was an error. Missed out
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    Man those poulter odds went from +4000 top 20 to +420. Wonder if that was an error. Missed out
     
    hammr
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2014 - 8:55 AM ET #22

    Like the picks aj good luck
    I am on Westwood rose GMAC and Sergio for half unit each, ball strikers dream out there 

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    Like the picks aj good luck
    I am on Westwood rose GMAC and Sergio for half unit each, ball strikers dream out there 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2014 - 5:44 PM ET #23

    Who is GMAC ?
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    Who is GMAC ?
     
    Pipe-Light
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2014 - 5:51 PM ET #24

    Got my hopes on that 63 as i AM GONNA LOSE THE STRICKER / cABRERRA bet already... Sad, and feels setup...

    I do know there is a load of cooruption in Soccer betting. HBO special really opened my eyes to the gambling problems around the world. I am sure once the Mafia seen that the Asians were doing it, they started laying out their plans...

    Not in the US. Got to believe they start working on places like Columbia and Mexico... But something like this could be a great gamble for them. lay out news on strickers hip. Cabrerra plays well weeks leading up. Bet and odds seemed so good and too good to be true.

    I jumped it and have to wonder about high rollers. How easy would it be for the mafia to LOSE cabrerra's clubs on the flight, etc...

    After all, it is all about money..

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    Got my hopes on that 63 as i AM GONNA LOSE THE STRICKER / cABRERRA bet already... Sad, and feels setup...

    I do know there is a load of cooruption in Soccer betting. HBO special really opened my eyes to the gambling problems around the world. I am sure once the Mafia seen that the Asians were doing it, they started laying out their plans...

    Not in the US. Got to believe they start working on places like Columbia and Mexico... But something like this could be a great gamble for them. lay out news on strickers hip. Cabrerra plays well weeks leading up. Bet and odds seemed so good and too good to be true.

    I jumped it and have to wonder about high rollers. How easy would it be for the mafia to LOSE cabrerra's clubs on the flight, etc...

    After all, it is all about money..

     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2014 - 8:36 PM ET #25

    1st Round Matchups

    Watney (-120) over Jacobson  

    Eldrick (+120) over Phil  

    Bjorn (-120) over English  

    Holmes (-120) over Donald - 2*  



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    1st Round Matchups

    Watney (-120) over Jacobson  

    Eldrick (+120) over Phil  

    Bjorn (-120) over English  

    Holmes (-120) over Donald - 2*  



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