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    Tennessee at Houston (12/14/2008)

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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2008 - 2:22 AM ET #1

    Away:  Tennessee [11-2 ATS]
    Home:  Houston [6-7 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Reliant Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    09/21/08 - HOU 12 vs. TEN 31

    Team Leaders:

    Tennessee:
    Passing: Kerry Collins (2284)
    Rushing: Chris Johnson (1094)
    Receiving: Bo Scaife (517)

    Houston:
    Passing: Matt Schaub (2176)
    Rushing: Steve Slaton (1024)
    Receiving: Andre Johnson (1201)

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    Away:  Tennessee [11-2 ATS]
    Home:  Houston [6-7 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Reliant Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    09/21/08 - HOU 12 vs. TEN 31

    Team Leaders:

    Tennessee:
    Passing: Kerry Collins (2284)
    Rushing: Chris Johnson (1094)
    Receiving: Bo Scaife (517)

    Houston:
    Passing: Matt Schaub (2176)
    Rushing: Steve Slaton (1024)
    Receiving: Andre Johnson (1201)

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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2008 - 5:03 PM ET #2

    How can TEN not be a touchdown favorite here? I cannot see TEN doing worse than a push on this game, my money will be on a TEN to win
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    How can TEN not be a touchdown favorite here? I cannot see TEN doing worse than a push on this game, my money will be on a TEN to win
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2008 - 5:34 PM ET #3

    Definite on TEN this week with -3. Line seems low.
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    Definite on TEN this week with -3. Line seems low.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2008 - 9:50 PM ET #4

    Tenn good bet last week, why -3 this week.  do they need this win with 1 loss?

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    Tenn good bet last week, why -3 this week.  do they need this win with 1 loss?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2008 - 11:32 PM ET #5

    Tenn needs a win or Indy loss in order to secure home field advantage throughout.  Houston is the weakest team they have left on their schedule.  Am I sure they want to win and secure that advantage.  That will allow them to "relax" (bad idea in my book) a bit if the choose during the last two weeks. 
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    Tenn needs a win or Indy loss in order to secure home field advantage throughout.  Houston is the weakest team they have left on their schedule.  Am I sure they want to win and secure that advantage.  That will allow them to "relax" (bad idea in my book) a bit if the choose during the last two weeks. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2008 - 11:35 PM ET #6

    They have Pitt and Indy in their last two weeks. 
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    They have Pitt and Indy in their last two weeks. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2008 - 11:40 PM ET #7

    Tenn's defense is good enough to give Schaub big problems...  Houston's pass rush will be slowed by Tenn's running game.  Bottomline, Tenn's D wins that matchup and Tenn's O wins that matchup.  Tenn has much more to play for.  I have $1000 on
    Tenn -3.5.
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    Tenn's defense is good enough to give Schaub big problems...  Houston's pass rush will be slowed by Tenn's running game.  Bottomline, Tenn's D wins that matchup and Tenn's O wins that matchup.  Tenn has much more to play for.  I have $1000 on
    Tenn -3.5.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 8:49 AM ET #8

    Something is mighty fishy about this line. I thought it would be closer to 6 or 7, but 3.5? I cant see Houston winning this game or even staying close, but this is the NFL.  If Baltimore can go to Houston and push the texans around, so can the Titans. My is on the team that is 11-2 ats. No need to think in to this.glta 
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    Something is mighty fishy about this line. I thought it would be closer to 6 or 7, but 3.5? I cant see Houston winning this game or even staying close, but this is the NFL.  If Baltimore can go to Houston and push the texans around, so can the Titans. My is on the team that is 11-2 ats. No need to think in to this.glta 
     
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    I have won good on my Titans all year. Don't see it ending here.  Titans to dominate as usual.

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    I have won good on my Titans all year. Don't see it ending here.  Titans to dominate as usual.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2008 - 10:00 PM ET #10

    [Quote: Originally Posted by WRECKEDEM] I have won good on my Titans all year. Don't see it ending here.  Titans to dominate as usual.
     
    I see you are from Tenn.  What is the feeling out there about this Hou game?  Are they talking about its importance?
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by WRECKEDEM] I have won good on my Titans all year. Don't see it ending here.  Titans to dominate as usual.
     
    I see you are from Tenn.  What is the feeling out there about this Hou game?  Are they talking about its importance?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 2:46 AM ET #11

    This line is a FAKE OUT! Don't be scared...If you were cashing on titans all year why stop now?
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    This line is a FAKE OUT! Don't be scared...If you were cashing on titans all year why stop now?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 10:10 PM ET #12

    Houston looks like the play to me. Division game, Tenessee already clinched the Division and they will win at least 1 more game. Let down game, in Houston. Texans will win outright.

    Probably won't bet it, because Tenessee has been money this year, but leaning strongly to Houston.

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    Houston looks like the play to me. Division game, Tenessee already clinched the Division and they will win at least 1 more game. Let down game, in Houston. Texans will win outright.

    Probably won't bet it, because Tenessee has been money this year, but leaning strongly to Houston.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 10:45 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by mleavers2000:

    Houston looks like the play to me. Division game, Tenessee already clinched the Division and they will win at least 1 more game. Let down game, in Houston. Texans will win outright.

    Probably won't bet it, because Tenessee has been money this year, but leaning strongly to Houston.



    hey leavers, i love ur picks and this is the first time i didnt respect ur opinion.  what makes you think this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mleavers2000:

    Houston looks like the play to me. Division game, Tenessee already clinched the Division and they will win at least 1 more game. Let down game, in Houston. Texans will win outright.

    Probably won't bet it, because Tenessee has been money this year, but leaning strongly to Houston.



    hey leavers, i love ur picks and this is the first time i didnt respect ur opinion.  what makes you think this.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpd110:

    Something is mighty fishy about this line. I thought it would be closer to 6 or 7, but 3.5? I cant see Houston winning this game or even staying close, but this is the NFL.  If Baltimore can go to Houston and push the texans around, so can the Titans. My is on the team that is 11-2 ats. No need to think in to this.glta 
        let me say this..I wont bet any game involving the titans after the fix on thanksgiving....the over was like 21 in the second half of that game and miraculously the titans couldnt score a single td ..hmmmm...right ...horseshit....and then last week when they were on the cleveland 2 on 4th down they go for it  with a big ass lead....WHY....that prevented the game from going over 37.5...and of course they didnt get in......I wouldnt risk a dime on them ever again...but gl to you
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpd110:

    Something is mighty fishy about this line. I thought it would be closer to 6 or 7, but 3.5? I cant see Houston winning this game or even staying close, but this is the NFL.  If Baltimore can go to Houston and push the texans around, so can the Titans. My is on the team that is 11-2 ats. No need to think in to this.glta 
        let me say this..I wont bet any game involving the titans after the fix on thanksgiving....the over was like 21 in the second half of that game and miraculously the titans couldnt score a single td ..hmmmm...right ...horseshit....and then last week when they were on the cleveland 2 on 4th down they go for it  with a big ass lead....WHY....that prevented the game from going over 37.5...and of course they didnt get in......I wouldnt risk a dime on them ever again...but gl to you
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 4:07 AM ET #15

    titans both halfs
    come on 12-1 v.s. 6-7 why is this line so low?
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    titans both halfs
    come on 12-1 v.s. 6-7 why is this line so low?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 4:29 AM ET #16

    humm had a bad week last week.  at wrong time of year need no i have to turn it around n-e thing to the positive side    this when   hard play soley            ponding titains' this based on hustons hot. titains need it and will get it 27-17need     this    k       

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    humm had a bad week last week.  at wrong time of year need no i have to turn it around n-e thing to the positive side    this when   hard play soley            ponding titains' this based on hustons hot. titains need it and will get it 27-17need     this    k       

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 11:05 AM ET #17

    likimg Houston with the points. Tenn has bigger games the next two weeks and Houston has been doing well as of late.
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    likimg Houston with the points. Tenn has bigger games the next two weeks and Houston has been doing well as of late.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FaganPhil:

    Tenn needs a win or Indy loss in order to secure home field advantage throughout.  Houston is the weakest team they have left on their schedule.  Am I sure they want to win and secure that advantage.  That will allow them to "relax" (bad idea in my book) a bit if the choose during the last two weeks. 

    Indy doesn't mean anything to Tennessee because Tennessee already clinched the division and at least a first round bye. Tennessee plays Pittsburgh, who's 10-3, next week. If they lose to Pittsburgh they have to win this week and week 17 to get home field. Or Pittsburgh can lose this week and Tennesse clinches home field throughout. But an Indy loss really has nothing to do with Tennessee getting home field throughout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FaganPhil:

    Tenn needs a win or Indy loss in order to secure home field advantage throughout.  Houston is the weakest team they have left on their schedule.  Am I sure they want to win and secure that advantage.  That will allow them to "relax" (bad idea in my book) a bit if the choose during the last two weeks. 

    Indy doesn't mean anything to Tennessee because Tennessee already clinched the division and at least a first round bye. Tennessee plays Pittsburgh, who's 10-3, next week. If they lose to Pittsburgh they have to win this week and week 17 to get home field. Or Pittsburgh can lose this week and Tennesse clinches home field throughout. But an Indy loss really has nothing to do with Tennessee getting home field throughout.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 12:29 PM ET #19

    Hou wins this game outright.  This line has beartrap written all over it.  When the line is too good to true take the opposite team and  all the way to the bank. Don't be blinded by the
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    Hou wins this game outright.  This line has beartrap written all over it.  When the line is too good to true take the opposite team and  all the way to the bank. Don't be blinded by the
     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by jmmychampion]

    humm had a bad week last week.  at wrong time of year need no i have to turn it around n-e thing to the positive side    this when   hard play soley            ponding titains' this based on hustons hot. titains need it and will get it 27-17need     this    k      

     

    UH....WTF DID HE SAY?

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by jmmychampion]

    humm had a bad week last week.  at wrong time of year need no i have to turn it around n-e thing to the positive side    this when   hard play soley            ponding titains' this based on hustons hot. titains need it and will get it 27-17need     this    k      

     

    UH....WTF DID HE SAY?

     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by stalker]

    Indy doesn't mean anything to Tennessee because Tennessee already clinched the division and at least a first round bye. Tennessee plays Pittsburgh, who's 10-3, next week. If they lose to Pittsburgh they have to win this week and week 17 to get home field. Or Pittsburgh can lose this week and Tennesse clinches home field throughout. But an Indy loss really has nothing to do with Tennessee getting home field throughout

    Your right... I mispoke.  I put Pitt's situation on Indy.  Either way the fact remains.

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by stalker]

    Indy doesn't mean anything to Tennessee because Tennessee already clinched the division and at least a first round bye. Tennessee plays Pittsburgh, who's 10-3, next week. If they lose to Pittsburgh they have to win this week and week 17 to get home field. Or Pittsburgh can lose this week and Tennesse clinches home field throughout. But an Indy loss really has nothing to do with Tennessee getting home field throughout

    Your right... I mispoke.  I put Pitt's situation on Indy.  Either way the fact remains.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 2:18 PM ET #22

    As far as needing this weeks win.....  Its very obvious that you want to clinch versus an easier opponent instead of trying to do so during the following weeks against stiffer teams with a whole lot more to play for.  Tenn has an early game so they dont have the luxury of scoreboard watching BEFORE they play.  AGAIN, misspoke and accidently interchanged Indy/Pitt but the bulk of the analysis doesn't change. 
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    As far as needing this weeks win.....  Its very obvious that you want to clinch versus an easier opponent instead of trying to do so during the following weeks against stiffer teams with a whole lot more to play for.  Tenn has an early game so they dont have the luxury of scoreboard watching BEFORE they play.  AGAIN, misspoke and accidently interchanged Indy/Pitt but the bulk of the analysis doesn't change. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 2:28 PM ET #23

    This game is extremely easy to call, but one last thing from me and I am going to leave it alone.  If you look at the average rank of these 2 teams on any given group of rankings, Tennessee is say 2 and Houston is say 19.  Last time..  Tenn has alot to play for and Hou has nothing to play for (unless you count some sort of spoiler role or getting better for next year or whatever).  Could be wrong but I think the line will be at 3.5 or 4 by gametime.  Seee ya next week 1 k richer...
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    This game is extremely easy to call, but one last thing from me and I am going to leave it alone.  If you look at the average rank of these 2 teams on any given group of rankings, Tennessee is say 2 and Houston is say 19.  Last time..  Tenn has alot to play for and Hou has nothing to play for (unless you count some sort of spoiler role or getting better for next year or whatever).  Could be wrong but I think the line will be at 3.5 or 4 by gametime.  Seee ya next week 1 k richer...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 2:28 PM ET #24

    I figured you meant Pittsburgh instead of Indy. I just wanted to correct it. But even winning this week does not clinch home field throughout for the Titans. Pittsburgh can win home field throughout if they win out and Tennessee loses twice. Tennessee can clinch with 1 Pittsburgh loss in the next 3 weeks or if they can win 2 out of their 3 next games. Basically Tennessee controls their own destiny and you're right FaganPhil, it is very obvious that they need to beat this easier opponent because they got Pittsburgh and Indy the last 2 weeks of the season. Not exactly gimme's. Titans -3 is the pick. They're still playing for something.
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    I figured you meant Pittsburgh instead of Indy. I just wanted to correct it. But even winning this week does not clinch home field throughout for the Titans. Pittsburgh can win home field throughout if they win out and Tennessee loses twice. Tennessee can clinch with 1 Pittsburgh loss in the next 3 weeks or if they can win 2 out of their 3 next games. Basically Tennessee controls their own destiny and you're right FaganPhil, it is very obvious that they need to beat this easier opponent because they got Pittsburgh and Indy the last 2 weeks of the season. Not exactly gimme's. Titans -3 is the pick. They're still playing for something.
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 2:35 PM ET #25

    I'm close enough to Nashville to read about the Titans every day... the attitude and general atmosphere surrounding this team has been that they're 'good' - but not yet 'great.' I think they "get it."
     
    They understand that the only thing they've accomplished so far, is that they've made it into the playoffs. At Houston this week, Pittsburgh comes to town next week, and then AT Indianapolis to finish. Would anybody like to trade for this schedule? 
     
    IMO - they will be trying to win this week, because at least on paper, THIS is the easiest, best chance of winning, of their remaining games. They'll keep an eye on the future - in respect to keeping everyone healthy and avoiding getting dinged-up (i.e. Kyle Van Den Bosch )... but realistically, if they grind out a win over the Texans - they could 'coast' for the next FOUR WEEKS (play back-ups for 2 reg. season games + a BYE in playoffs week 1)! And have everybody healthy to run the play-off gauntlet...
     
    IMO - the spread is ONLY 3-1/2 because Coach Fisher's offensive strategy has always been... well, VANILLA!   DUH! It worked well with tough guys like Steve McNair and Eddie George... the attitude then was this: "All we need is ONE MORE POINT than the other team..." and really that is STILL the general feeling these Titans display. They definitely are not about setting a sprinter's pace!!
    The oddsmakers know that if the Titans are leading - the Texans will be able to dink and dunk (like the Jets earlier this season) and try to get a victory. And if the Texans' are leading - Fisher's and the Titans goal will be "to be ahead by one point" when the game ends.
     
    My take is this: Titans start slow, like they seem to always do. They'll try to score but won't go out of their way to be 'winning' at the half. They're 'fine' if they've 'kept it close' - no panic. Second half they adjust and come out and try to get the lead and a turnover or two and 'squeak' out a win.
     
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    TEXANS: 17
     
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    I'm close enough to Nashville to read about the Titans every day... the attitude and general atmosphere surrounding this team has been that they're 'good' - but not yet 'great.' I think they "get it."
     
    They understand that the only thing they've accomplished so far, is that they've made it into the playoffs. At Houston this week, Pittsburgh comes to town next week, and then AT Indianapolis to finish. Would anybody like to trade for this schedule? 
     
    IMO - they will be trying to win this week, because at least on paper, THIS is the easiest, best chance of winning, of their remaining games. They'll keep an eye on the future - in respect to keeping everyone healthy and avoiding getting dinged-up (i.e. Kyle Van Den Bosch )... but realistically, if they grind out a win over the Texans - they could 'coast' for the next FOUR WEEKS (play back-ups for 2 reg. season games + a BYE in playoffs week 1)! And have everybody healthy to run the play-off gauntlet...
     
    IMO - the spread is ONLY 3-1/2 because Coach Fisher's offensive strategy has always been... well, VANILLA!   DUH! It worked well with tough guys like Steve McNair and Eddie George... the attitude then was this: "All we need is ONE MORE POINT than the other team..." and really that is STILL the general feeling these Titans display. They definitely are not about setting a sprinter's pace!!
    The oddsmakers know that if the Titans are leading - the Texans will be able to dink and dunk (like the Jets earlier this season) and try to get a victory. And if the Texans' are leading - Fisher's and the Titans goal will be "to be ahead by one point" when the game ends.
     
    My take is this: Titans start slow, like they seem to always do. They'll try to score but won't go out of their way to be 'winning' at the half. They're 'fine' if they've 'kept it close' - no panic. Second half they adjust and come out and try to get the lead and a turnover or two and 'squeak' out a win.
     
    TITANS:   23
    TEXANS: 17
     
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