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    Tampa Bay at Carolina (09/19/2010)

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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 2:01 AM ET #1

    Away:  Tampa Bay [1-0 ATS]
    Home:  Carolina [0-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Bank of America Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    Tampa Bay:
    Passing: Josh Freeman (182)
    Rushing: Cadillac Williams (75)
    Receiving: Michael Spurlock (49)

    Carolina:
    Passing: Matt Moore (182)
    Rushing: DeAngelo Williams (62)
    Receiving: Steve Smith (75)

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    Away:  Tampa Bay [1-0 ATS]
    Home:  Carolina [0-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Bank of America Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Tampa Bay:
    Passing: Josh Freeman (182)
    Rushing: Cadillac Williams (75)
    Receiving: Michael Spurlock (49)

    Carolina:
    Passing: Matt Moore (182)
    Rushing: DeAngelo Williams (62)
    Receiving: Steve Smith (75)

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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2010 - 4:40 PM ET #2

    At the time of my post here, the only lines I see were on Covers and showed it opened at Sportsbetting as a CAR-2 and has moved to CAR-2.5 pts. The Las Vegas Hilton is shown on Covers as being a 0-pts -110 game or a PK em.

    In the L-20 meeting (at either teams field) Tampa Bay is just 5-11 SU and ATS vs Carolina having lost once and covered (TB+3 at CAR on 9/24/2006) and having won once without covering (TB-8 at CAR on 10/27/2002).

    TB is just 1-4 and 2-6 ATS respectably in the L-5 and L-7 vs CAR. In the L-8 games played at CAR. The Bucs are only 3-5 SU and 2-6 ATS going back to 2002. The average score in those games is CAR-19 TB-16.1 so the line looks about right.

    I'm hoping to get Carolina at -3 or below and really think the CAR-ML is the way to go for me. Last season CAR won 16-6 as a -3.5 favorite in Carolina and in 2008 Carolina won 38-23 as a -3 favorite at home vs TB.

    TB is just 3-7 ATS in thier L-10 September games while Carolina is 0-4 ATS in thier L-4 September games and also 3-7 in thier L-10 in September.

    TB is 3-17 SU and 8-12 ATS in L-20 as dogs and 2-1 for both in thier L-3 games as dogs. TB is 5-15 SU and 7-13 ATS in L-20 as dogs of +4 or less and 0-7 in thier L-7 as dogs of +4 or less.

    CAR is 16-4 SU and 12-7-1 ATS in thier L-20 as Fav's and 3-3 for Both in thier L-6 games as fav's. Car is 14-6 SU and 12-7-1 in thier L-20 games as fav's of -4 or less and 7-1-1 in thier L-9 as fav's of -4 or less.

    My Guesstimate - Carolina-20 Tampa Bay-16

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    At the time of my post here, the only lines I see were on Covers and showed it opened at Sportsbetting as a CAR-2 and has moved to CAR-2.5 pts. The Las Vegas Hilton is shown on Covers as being a 0-pts -110 game or a PK em.

    In the L-20 meeting (at either teams field) Tampa Bay is just 5-11 SU and ATS vs Carolina having lost once and covered (TB+3 at CAR on 9/24/2006) and having won once without covering (TB-8 at CAR on 10/27/2002).

    TB is just 1-4 and 2-6 ATS respectably in the L-5 and L-7 vs CAR. In the L-8 games played at CAR. The Bucs are only 3-5 SU and 2-6 ATS going back to 2002. The average score in those games is CAR-19 TB-16.1 so the line looks about right.

    I'm hoping to get Carolina at -3 or below and really think the CAR-ML is the way to go for me. Last season CAR won 16-6 as a -3.5 favorite in Carolina and in 2008 Carolina won 38-23 as a -3 favorite at home vs TB.

    TB is just 3-7 ATS in thier L-10 September games while Carolina is 0-4 ATS in thier L-4 September games and also 3-7 in thier L-10 in September.

    TB is 3-17 SU and 8-12 ATS in L-20 as dogs and 2-1 for both in thier L-3 games as dogs. TB is 5-15 SU and 7-13 ATS in L-20 as dogs of +4 or less and 0-7 in thier L-7 as dogs of +4 or less.

    CAR is 16-4 SU and 12-7-1 ATS in thier L-20 as Fav's and 3-3 for Both in thier L-6 games as fav's. Car is 14-6 SU and 12-7-1 in thier L-20 games as fav's of -4 or less and 7-1-1 in thier L-9 as fav's of -4 or less.

    My Guesstimate - Carolina-20 Tampa Bay-16

     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2010 - 3:11 PM ET #3

    Tampa Bay to cover the 3.5 (Carolina 20 - Tampa Bay 17) GL
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    Tampa Bay to cover the 3.5 (Carolina 20 - Tampa Bay 17) GL
     
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    Posted: Sep. 16, 2010 - 11:59 PM ET #4

    TB @ CAR -3.5 O/U 39

    Last yr CAR was -3.5, -3 home, away and covered both times (16-6, 28-21).

    CAR played with Delhomme (home) in Oct then with Moore in Dec (away)
    TB had then rookie Josh Freeman. He threw 5 ints in the 16-6 Oct gm.

    Thjs yr Freeman had a pretty good gm against the Browns and CAR's old QB Delhomme (2 ints), winning 17-14.

    In CAR's 1st gm they lost to NYG's 18-31 with Moore throwing 3 ints IN THE ENDZONE!

    Now Moore has a concussion and might not start. Backup is rookie Jimmy Clausen.

    CAR won 8 gms last yr with a #8 ranked defense and running the ball (#3 in 09)

    If Clausen starts, that's worth 3 pts for TB. Rookie QB in his 1st NFL gm? Not too many win their 1st gm.

    So for sides... will have to wait to see if Moore plays but either way....

    thinking about taking the under 39

    If Clausen plays might take a small chance on TB ML

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    TB @ CAR -3.5 O/U 39

    Last yr CAR was -3.5, -3 home, away and covered both times (16-6, 28-21).

    CAR played with Delhomme (home) in Oct then with Moore in Dec (away)
    TB had then rookie Josh Freeman. He threw 5 ints in the 16-6 Oct gm.

    Thjs yr Freeman had a pretty good gm against the Browns and CAR's old QB Delhomme (2 ints), winning 17-14.

    In CAR's 1st gm they lost to NYG's 18-31 with Moore throwing 3 ints IN THE ENDZONE!

    Now Moore has a concussion and might not start. Backup is rookie Jimmy Clausen.

    CAR won 8 gms last yr with a #8 ranked defense and running the ball (#3 in 09)

    If Clausen starts, that's worth 3 pts for TB. Rookie QB in his 1st NFL gm? Not too many win their 1st gm.

    So for sides... will have to wait to see if Moore plays but either way....

    thinking about taking the under 39

    If Clausen plays might take a small chance on TB ML

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2010 - 12:00 AM ET #5

    I think Tampa scores more than 16 or 17
    That would mean an over
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    I think Tampa scores more than 16 or 17
    That would mean an over
     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2010 - 2:38 PM ET #6

    CAROLINA UNDER

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    CAROLINA UNDER

     
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    Posted: Sep. 17, 2010 - 3:41 PM ET #7

    not sure where the Jimmy sucks stuff is coming from, 5 yrs from now he'll be the best Qb of this draft by a mile.
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    not sure where the Jimmy sucks stuff is coming from, 5 yrs from now he'll be the best Qb of this draft by a mile.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2010 - 2:14 PM ET #8

    UNDER 39 IS THE CALL HERE.
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    UNDER 39 IS THE CALL HERE.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2010 - 9:30 PM ET #9

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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2010 - 1:52 AM ET #10

    Chris Gamble is out for Carolina this week
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    Chris Gamble is out for Carolina this week
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2010 - 5:20 AM ET #11

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    "not sure where the Jimmy sucks stuff is coming from, 5 yrs from now he'll be the best Qb of this draft by a mile. "

    Didn't they say that about Rick Mirer and Brady Quinn too?  Anyway...

    Panthers -3

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    "not sure where the Jimmy sucks stuff is coming from, 5 yrs from now he'll be the best Qb of this draft by a mile. "

    Didn't they say that about Rick Mirer and Brady Quinn too?  Anyway...

    Panthers -3

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2010 - 9:04 AM ET #13

    Tampa Bay - 21                                        Carolina - 19

    Buccaneers +3.5                          over 39.5

    Carolina has trouble ATS in home openers. I'll take the 3.5 and the Bucs coming off a SU home win.

    Tampa Bay - over

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    Tampa Bay - 21                                        Carolina - 19

    Buccaneers +3.5                          over 39.5

    Carolina has trouble ATS in home openers. I'll take the 3.5 and the Bucs coming off a SU home win.

    Tampa Bay - over

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2010 - 9:13 AM ET #14

    Under Has been The Trend........GL
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    Under Has been The Trend........GL
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2010 - 12:12 PM ET #15

    OOh, you did not just used the "T" word.
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    OOh, you did not just used the "T" word.
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2010 - 12:09 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Skubishack:

    At the time of my post here, the only lines I see were on Covers and showed it opened at Sportsbetting as a CAR-2 and has moved to CAR-2.5 pts. The Las Vegas Hilton is shown on Covers as being a 0-pts -110 game or a PK em.

    In the L-20 meeting (at either teams field) Tampa Bay is just 5-11 SU and ATS vs Carolina having lost once and covered (TB+3 at CAR on 9/24/2006) and having won once without covering (TB-8 at CAR on 10/27/2002).

    TB is just 1-4 and 2-6 ATS respectably in the L-5 and L-7 vs CAR. In the L-8 games played at CAR. The Bucs are only 3-5 SU and 2-6 ATS going back to 2002. The average score in those games is CAR-19 TB-16.1 so the line looks about right.

    I'm hoping to get Carolina at -3 or below and really think the CAR-ML is the way to go for me. Last season CAR won 16-6 as a -3.5 favorite in Carolina and in 2008 Carolina won 38-23 as a -3 favorite at home vs TB.

    TB is just 3-7 ATS in thier L-10 September games while Carolina is 0-4 ATS in thier L-4 September games and also 3-7 in thier L-10 in September.

    TB is 3-17 SU and 8-12 ATS in L-20 as dogs and 2-1 for both in thier L-3 games as dogs. TB is 5-15 SU and 7-13 ATS in L-20 as dogs of +4 or less and 0-7 in thier L-7 as dogs of +4 or less.

    CAR is 16-4 SU and 12-7-1 ATS in thier L-20 as Fav's and 3-3 for Both in thier L-6 games as fav's. Car is 14-6 SU and 12-7-1 in thier L-20 games as fav's of -4 or less and 7-1-1 in thier L-9 as fav's of -4 or less.

    My Guesstimate - Carolina-20 Tampa Bay-16

    Final Score = Tampa Bay-20 Carolina-7

    Under still hits but Carolina creates a thud sound as it hits the basement in the loopy NFC South where Tampa Bay looks to try and continue the trend of worst to first in the division AGAIN....

    ...Naaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh. It's only week two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skubishack:

    At the time of my post here, the only lines I see were on Covers and showed it opened at Sportsbetting as a CAR-2 and has moved to CAR-2.5 pts. The Las Vegas Hilton is shown on Covers as being a 0-pts -110 game or a PK em.

    In the L-20 meeting (at either teams field) Tampa Bay is just 5-11 SU and ATS vs Carolina having lost once and covered (TB+3 at CAR on 9/24/2006) and having won once without covering (TB-8 at CAR on 10/27/2002).

    TB is just 1-4 and 2-6 ATS respectably in the L-5 and L-7 vs CAR. In the L-8 games played at CAR. The Bucs are only 3-5 SU and 2-6 ATS going back to 2002. The average score in those games is CAR-19 TB-16.1 so the line looks about right.

    I'm hoping to get Carolina at -3 or below and really think the CAR-ML is the way to go for me. Last season CAR won 16-6 as a -3.5 favorite in Carolina and in 2008 Carolina won 38-23 as a -3 favorite at home vs TB.

    TB is just 3-7 ATS in thier L-10 September games while Carolina is 0-4 ATS in thier L-4 September games and also 3-7 in thier L-10 in September.

    TB is 3-17 SU and 8-12 ATS in L-20 as dogs and 2-1 for both in thier L-3 games as dogs. TB is 5-15 SU and 7-13 ATS in L-20 as dogs of +4 or less and 0-7 in thier L-7 as dogs of +4 or less.

    CAR is 16-4 SU and 12-7-1 ATS in thier L-20 as Fav's and 3-3 for Both in thier L-6 games as fav's. Car is 14-6 SU and 12-7-1 in thier L-20 games as fav's of -4 or less and 7-1-1 in thier L-9 as fav's of -4 or less.

    My Guesstimate - Carolina-20 Tampa Bay-16

    Final Score = Tampa Bay-20 Carolina-7

    Under still hits but Carolina creates a thud sound as it hits the basement in the loopy NFC South where Tampa Bay looks to try and continue the trend of worst to first in the division AGAIN....

    ...Naaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh. It's only week two.

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