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    New York at Tampa Bay (12/13/2009)

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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2009 - 1:47 AM ET #1

    Away:  N.Y. Jets [6-6 ATS]
    Home:  Tampa Bay [4-8 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Raymond James Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    N.Y. Jets:
    Passing: Mark Sanchez (2049)
    Rushing: Thomas Jones (1068)
    Receiving: Jerricho Cotchery (662)

    Tampa Bay:
    Passing: Josh Freeman (1114)
    Rushing: Carnell Williams (567)
    Receiving: Kellen Winslow (633)

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    Away:  N.Y. Jets [6-6 ATS]
    Home:  Tampa Bay [4-8 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Raymond James Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    N.Y. Jets:
    Passing: Mark Sanchez (2049)
    Rushing: Thomas Jones (1068)
    Receiving: Jerricho Cotchery (662)

    Tampa Bay:
    Passing: Josh Freeman (1114)
    Rushing: Carnell Williams (567)
    Receiving: Kellen Winslow (633)

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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2009 - 7:52 PM ET #2

    Jets -3.5
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    Jets -3.5
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2009 - 4:04 PM ET #3

    kellen clemens is starting       not touchin this one
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    kellen clemens is starting       not touchin this one
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2009 - 5:53 PM ET #4

    Even a week of practice playing with the 1st team won't be enough for Clemens. He's looked like crap in every game that he has started- not being a major factor in the wins but merely managing the game.
    Clemens will throw a few picks and make it difficult for the Jets defense to shut down an improving Bucs offense. 
    I'm expecting this line to drop- but right now I am on the home dog and the Under. Expecting a run heavy game plan from the NYJ against a bad rushing defense of TB but I do expect Tampa to hang close due to awful play at the QB position.
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    Even a week of practice playing with the 1st team won't be enough for Clemens. He's looked like crap in every game that he has started- not being a major factor in the wins but merely managing the game.
    Clemens will throw a few picks and make it difficult for the Jets defense to shut down an improving Bucs offense. 
    I'm expecting this line to drop- but right now I am on the home dog and the Under. Expecting a run heavy game plan from the NYJ against a bad rushing defense of TB but I do expect Tampa to hang close due to awful play at the QB position.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2009 - 11:17 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMannix:

    Even a week of practice playing with the 1st team won't be enough for Clemens. He's looked like crap in every game that he has started- not being a major factor in the wins but merely managing the game.
    Clemens will throw a few picks and make it difficult for the Jets defense to shut down an improving Bucs offense. 
    I'm expecting this line to drop- but right now I am on the home dog and the Under. Expecting a run heavy game plan from the NYJ against a bad rushing defense of TB but I do expect Tampa to hang close due to awful play at the QB position.
        Actually agree with you Mr. Mannix. However, the Jets absolutely OWN TB covering at an astounding cover rate of over 80%! With that being said, I don't care if my mother is QBing the Jets- Tampa is toast! Tampa Sucks GO JETS!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMannix:

    Even a week of practice playing with the 1st team won't be enough for Clemens. He's looked like crap in every game that he has started- not being a major factor in the wins but merely managing the game.
    Clemens will throw a few picks and make it difficult for the Jets defense to shut down an improving Bucs offense. 
    I'm expecting this line to drop- but right now I am on the home dog and the Under. Expecting a run heavy game plan from the NYJ against a bad rushing defense of TB but I do expect Tampa to hang close due to awful play at the QB position.
        Actually agree with you Mr. Mannix. However, the Jets absolutely OWN TB covering at an astounding cover rate of over 80%! With that being said, I don't care if my mother is QBing the Jets- Tampa is toast! Tampa Sucks GO JETS!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2009 - 11:37 PM ET #6

    sanchez or clemens... does it really matter? sanchez isnt that much better then clemens, and the playbook will be dialed down for him.. TB #31 in the league rush DEF vs jets #1 rushing off?... darelle revis and the rest of the jets #1 pass def vs. josh freeman? i dont see how tampa keeps it close... jets are fighting for a playoff spot as well and after 2 straight wins the def got their swagger back that they seemed to lose for a little bit. JETS -3
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    sanchez or clemens... does it really matter? sanchez isnt that much better then clemens, and the playbook will be dialed down for him.. TB #31 in the league rush DEF vs jets #1 rushing off?... darelle revis and the rest of the jets #1 pass def vs. josh freeman? i dont see how tampa keeps it close... jets are fighting for a playoff spot as well and after 2 straight wins the def got their swagger back that they seemed to lose for a little bit. JETS -3
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2009 - 7:29 AM ET #7

    Jets -3 -120
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    Jets -3 -120
     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2009 - 9:10 PM ET #8

    clemens playing does nothing to change this game. Jets gameplan would be the same if my niece was the qb. RUN RUN RUN thats it, clemens prob will throw the ball 15-20 times all game, i expect some wildcat from the jets and some trick plays on offense to take the throwing opptys away from kellen, How can you even think TB will score a Td on this jets D,  I say they score 2 fg's thats about it, jets score 17 on offense maybe another on d, or atleast set up an easy score so i say 24-6 jets bank it

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    clemens playing does nothing to change this game. Jets gameplan would be the same if my niece was the qb. RUN RUN RUN thats it, clemens prob will throw the ball 15-20 times all game, i expect some wildcat from the jets and some trick plays on offense to take the throwing opptys away from kellen, How can you even think TB will score a Td on this jets D,  I say they score 2 fg's thats about it, jets score 17 on offense maybe another on d, or atleast set up an easy score so i say 24-6 jets bank it

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2009 - 12:19 PM ET #9

    TB +3 getting +105 at Beted


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    TB +3 getting +105 at Beted


     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2009 - 8:19 PM ET #10

    JETS SANCHEZ, LOWREY, AND TURNER OUT FOR INJURIES. DEFINITELY NOT PLAYING THIS GAME. NOT THAT THE QB POSITION WAS ANY GOOD RECENTLY ANYWAYS, BUT HAS DEFINITE POTENTIAL. THIS GAME WILL BE CLOSE AND IT WILL COME DOWN TO TIME POSSESION OF THE BALL. BEING THE BUCS ARE THE HOME DOGS, THAT WILL BE MY PLAY. HOME DOGS IN A CLOSE GAME AND SPREADS LESS THAN A TD IS THE CALL FOR THE WEEKEND. TURN OVERS BY ROOKIE QB'S MORE THAN A FEW.

    BUCS WIN STRAIGHT UP IS THE PLAY. WEDGED BY BUCS +3. STILL LOOKING AT THE O/U.

    FOR GREAT INFO ON THE GAMES THIS WEEKEND, ESPECIALLY ON THE 12-0 TEAMS, LOOK UP NFL.COM/ NFL NETWORK. GREAT VIDEO FROM ANALYST JASON LA CANFORA. TOPIC "REST VS. RUST". VERY INFORMATIVE ON HOW DIFFERENT THE TWO UNDEFEATED TEAMS ARE.

    (808ALLDAY)

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    JETS SANCHEZ, LOWREY, AND TURNER OUT FOR INJURIES. DEFINITELY NOT PLAYING THIS GAME. NOT THAT THE QB POSITION WAS ANY GOOD RECENTLY ANYWAYS, BUT HAS DEFINITE POTENTIAL. THIS GAME WILL BE CLOSE AND IT WILL COME DOWN TO TIME POSSESION OF THE BALL. BEING THE BUCS ARE THE HOME DOGS, THAT WILL BE MY PLAY. HOME DOGS IN A CLOSE GAME AND SPREADS LESS THAN A TD IS THE CALL FOR THE WEEKEND. TURN OVERS BY ROOKIE QB'S MORE THAN A FEW.

    BUCS WIN STRAIGHT UP IS THE PLAY. WEDGED BY BUCS +3. STILL LOOKING AT THE O/U.

    FOR GREAT INFO ON THE GAMES THIS WEEKEND, ESPECIALLY ON THE 12-0 TEAMS, LOOK UP NFL.COM/ NFL NETWORK. GREAT VIDEO FROM ANALYST JASON LA CANFORA. TOPIC "REST VS. RUST". VERY INFORMATIVE ON HOW DIFFERENT THE TWO UNDEFEATED TEAMS ARE.

    (808ALLDAY)

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2009 - 1:14 PM ET #11

    Tampa
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    Tampa
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2009 - 2:52 PM ET #12

    Believe or not but that .5 may come into play here

    I like TB to cover

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    Believe or not but that .5 may come into play here

    I like TB to cover

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2009 - 3:48 PM ET #13

    I cant see Tampa ending the Jets season but I think this will be a competitive game .This is Clemens third year in the league so I expect him to step up and make some third down plays.

    Jets -3

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    I cant see Tampa ending the Jets season but I think this will be a competitive game .This is Clemens third year in the league so I expect him to step up and make some third down plays.

    Jets -3

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2009 - 4:18 PM ET #14

    TB +4: Clemen on the road with the public backing him to the tune of 65%/  the line opened at 3, i like the Buccs in this spot at home.  Alltho Freeman debacled my pick last week with redzone INTs, i'll go with them this week.  Buccaneers 15-NY Jets 10 (2 units)
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    TB +4: Clemen on the road with the public backing him to the tune of 65%/  the line opened at 3, i like the Buccs in this spot at home.  Alltho Freeman debacled my pick last week with redzone INTs, i'll go with them this week.  Buccaneers 15-NY Jets 10 (2 units)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2009 - 4:34 PM ET #15

    close game but the jets squeak it out. Jets -3 1/2...

    GL to all   

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    close game but the jets squeak it out. Jets -3 1/2...

    GL to all   

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2009 - 7:08 PM ET #16

    TAMPA WINS THIS GAME JETS MIGHT BE ONE OF THE WORST TEAMS IN THE NFL TEAM IS A JOKE CANT WAIT TO WATCH THEM CRY AFTER THEY HAVE 0% CHANCE OF MAKEIN THE PLAYOFFS
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    TAMPA WINS THIS GAME JETS MIGHT BE ONE OF THE WORST TEAMS IN THE NFL TEAM IS A JOKE CANT WAIT TO WATCH THEM CRY AFTER THEY HAVE 0% CHANCE OF MAKEIN THE PLAYOFFS
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2009 - 11:50 PM ET #17

    TAMPA +3.5
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    TAMPA +3.5
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2009 - 1:36 AM ET #18

    Bucs and the under
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    Bucs and the under
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2009 - 3:02 AM ET #19

    NY still playing for an outside shot at playoffs and wont rely heavily on Clemens today with that TB rushing D also Buccs looking at next years draft already -- JETS -3.5
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    NY still playing for an outside shot at playoffs and wont rely heavily on Clemens today with that TB rushing D also Buccs looking at next years draft already -- JETS -3.5
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2009 - 10:30 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by jetsmets84:

    clemens playing does nothing to change this game. Jets gameplan would be the same if my niece was the qb. RUN RUN RUN thats it, clemens prob will throw the ball 15-20 times all game, i expect some wildcat from the jets and some trick plays on offense to take the throwing opptys away from kellen, How can you even think TB will score a Td on this jets D,  I say they score 2 fg's thats about it, jets score 17 on offense maybe another on d, or atleast set up an easy score so i say 24-6 jets bank it



    Good point....but aren't the Bucs ranked 3rd in the league against the run?  If the Bucs stuff Jones, it could be a long day for Clemens and the Jets.

    BTW, does your niece prefer ketchup or mustard on her dogs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsmets84:

    clemens playing does nothing to change this game. Jets gameplan would be the same if my niece was the qb. RUN RUN RUN thats it, clemens prob will throw the ball 15-20 times all game, i expect some wildcat from the jets and some trick plays on offense to take the throwing opptys away from kellen, How can you even think TB will score a Td on this jets D,  I say they score 2 fg's thats about it, jets score 17 on offense maybe another on d, or atleast set up an easy score so i say 24-6 jets bank it



    Good point....but aren't the Bucs ranked 3rd in the league against the run?  If the Bucs stuff Jones, it could be a long day for Clemens and the Jets.

    BTW, does your niece prefer ketchup or mustard on her dogs?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2009 - 10:38 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by HanoiBoi:



    Good point....but aren't the Bucs ranked 3rd in the league against the run?  If the Bucs stuff Jones, it could be a long day for Clemens and the Jets.

    BTW, does your niece prefer ketchup or mustard on her dogs?


    Yes, I'm calling myself out.  Perhaps I'm not interpreting stats correctly?  On cbssports.com, the Bucs team page shows RUSH DEF 77.3, RANK: 3.

    Is this info wrong or am I interpreting it incorrectly.  Help/clarification would be appreciated!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HanoiBoi:



    Good point....but aren't the Bucs ranked 3rd in the league against the run?  If the Bucs stuff Jones, it could be a long day for Clemens and the Jets.

    BTW, does your niece prefer ketchup or mustard on her dogs?


    Yes, I'm calling myself out.  Perhaps I'm not interpreting stats correctly?  On cbssports.com, the Bucs team page shows RUSH DEF 77.3, RANK: 3.

    Is this info wrong or am I interpreting it incorrectly.  Help/clarification would be appreciated!
     
    easypics
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                                 No UNDER Love ?????

                                    Play it . . . Tease it . . .
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                                 No UNDER Love ?????

                                    Play it . . . Tease it . . .
     
    emajn
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2009 - 12:07 PM ET #23

    TB +4

    I like the bucs chances at home against kellen clemens and crew.

    Tampa has played decent in some of their games just could not get the victory, but I think they will play inspired today and pull the upset. J-E-T-S are not as good as their record(6-6) indicates and are ripe for the picking(ints),and Bucs D will shut down Thomas jones

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    TB +4

    I like the bucs chances at home against kellen clemens and crew.

    Tampa has played decent in some of their games just could not get the victory, but I think they will play inspired today and pull the upset. J-E-T-S are not as good as their record(6-6) indicates and are ripe for the picking(ints),and Bucs D will shut down Thomas jones

     
    MrMannix
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2009 - 12:52 PM ET #24

    I hate to do it but:
    TB +3.5
    GLTA 
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    I hate to do it but:
    TB +3.5
    GLTA 
     
     
    WiseGuy702
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2009 - 12:56 PM ET #25

    Buccs +3.5

     

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    Buccs +3.5

     

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