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    New England at Buffalo (09/25/2011)

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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 2:57 AM ET #1

    Away:  New England [2-0 ATS]
    Home:  Buffalo [1-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Ralph Wilson Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (940)
    Rushing: BenJarvus Green-Ellis (104)
    Receiving: Wes Welker (241)

    Buffalo:
    Passing: Ryan Fitzpatrick (472)
    Rushing: Fred Jackson (229)
    Receiving: Steve Johnson (162)

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    Away:  New England [2-0 ATS]
    Home:  Buffalo [1-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Ralph Wilson Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (940)
    Rushing: BenJarvus Green-Ellis (104)
    Receiving: Wes Welker (241)

    Buffalo:
    Passing: Ryan Fitzpatrick (472)
    Rushing: Fred Jackson (229)
    Receiving: Steve Johnson (162)

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    dddevin69
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 4:37 AM ET #2

    buffalo is OVERATED.             new england is the TRUTH

     

     

    take the over  51.5

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    buffalo is OVERATED.             new england is the TRUTH

     

     

    take the over  51.5

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 2:13 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by dddevin69:

    buffalo is OVERATED.             new england is the TRUTH

     

     

    take the over  51.5



    Couldn't agree with you more. BUF is so over-rated, the have a very young O-line, with only 1 player having +3 years of experience. The Pats will bring pressure and make Fitzpatrick uncomfortable in the pocket and Brady will pick apart that defense, as usual. I took it early before it stayed below 10, it opened at 8 and is already at 9 in one day so get the line before it goes above 10
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    Quote Originally Posted by dddevin69:

    buffalo is OVERATED.             new england is the TRUTH

     

     

    take the over  51.5



    Couldn't agree with you more. BUF is so over-rated, the have a very young O-line, with only 1 player having +3 years of experience. The Pats will bring pressure and make Fitzpatrick uncomfortable in the pocket and Brady will pick apart that defense, as usual. I took it early before it stayed below 10, it opened at 8 and is already at 9 in one day so get the line before it goes above 10
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 3:53 PM ET #4

    It's a fact, New England owns this Bills team. More often than not, at least since 2003, the Bills have been able to hang with the Pats, keep the games close.

    What also has my interest is the inability of the Pats D to get off the field. There is a lot of bend there, and the longer that D is on the field, the less Brady can pick apart an average at best Bills Secondary. A strong running game that burns up the clock could hurt NE, and Fred Jackson is enough of a grind it out RB to cause them problems. Pair that with a smart, efficient QB, things could get tough for the Pats.

    Anything at  8.5 or more, take the Bills.

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    It's a fact, New England owns this Bills team. More often than not, at least since 2003, the Bills have been able to hang with the Pats, keep the games close.

    What also has my interest is the inability of the Pats D to get off the field. There is a lot of bend there, and the longer that D is on the field, the less Brady can pick apart an average at best Bills Secondary. A strong running game that burns up the clock could hurt NE, and Fred Jackson is enough of a grind it out RB to cause them problems. Pair that with a smart, efficient QB, things could get tough for the Pats.

    Anything at  8.5 or more, take the Bills.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 3:56 PM ET #5

    Meant to write that since 2003, in their 1st meeting of the season, the Bills hang with the Pats. The 2nd game tends to be the blowout in the Pats favor.
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    Meant to write that since 2003, in their 1st meeting of the season, the Bills hang with the Pats. The 2nd game tends to be the blowout in the Pats favor.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 4:06 PM ET #6

    IF NEW ENGLAND DOESNT COVER ILL NEVER BET ANOTHER FOOTBALL GAME AGAIN...

    PATRIOTS BY 20 POINTS
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    IF NEW ENGLAND DOESNT COVER ILL NEVER BET ANOTHER FOOTBALL GAME AGAIN...

    PATRIOTS BY 20 POINTS
     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 7:15 PM ET #7

    New England - 28                                         Buffalo - 25

    Bills +9                                               over 51

    I'm a glutton for punishment. Give me the Bills plus the generous points.

    Buffalo - over

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    New England - 28                                         Buffalo - 25

    Bills +9                                               over 51

    I'm a glutton for punishment. Give me the Bills plus the generous points.

    Buffalo - over

     
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    Posted: Sep. 20, 2011 - 11:32 PM ET #8

    If Campbell - Raiders can put up 323 passing against the Buffs last week,how much damage will Brady do this week? This will be another 20 pt blow out.Keep riding the Pats.Im sure the 131 rushing yards didnt hurt either..
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    If Campbell - Raiders can put up 323 passing against the Buffs last week,how much damage will Brady do this week? This will be another 20 pt blow out.Keep riding the Pats.Im sure the 131 rushing yards didnt hurt either..
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2011 - 7:03 PM ET #9

    I'm thinking teasing Patriots to -2.5 plus OVER 47.5 is the best way here?

    Seen enough Pats-Bills game to know Bills to seemingly hang with the Patriots.
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    I'm thinking teasing Patriots to -2.5 plus OVER 47.5 is the best way here?

    Seen enough Pats-Bills game to know Bills to seemingly hang with the Patriots.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2011 - 7:11 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Champkande:

    IF NEW ENGLAND DOESNT COVER ILL NEVER BET ANOTHER FOOTBALL GAME AGAIN...

    PATRIOTS BY 20 POINTS

     

    I guess we won't see you here again then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Champkande:

    IF NEW ENGLAND DOESNT COVER ILL NEVER BET ANOTHER FOOTBALL GAME AGAIN...

    PATRIOTS BY 20 POINTS

     

    I guess we won't see you here again then...

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2011 - 7:22 PM ET #11

    Buffalo +9, This one will be a fight.  Buffalo gets up and plays better than they are vs New England.  Buffalo will get enough scores to keep this game close (patriots d is bad)

    Buffalo is much better than people remember them to be.  I hate betting against Brady and bunch but this one is worth it!!! for the small.

    I also like the over!!! 53.5

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    Buffalo +9, This one will be a fight.  Buffalo gets up and plays better than they are vs New England.  Buffalo will get enough scores to keep this game close (patriots d is bad)

    Buffalo is much better than people remember them to be.  I hate betting against Brady and bunch but this one is worth it!!! for the small.

    I also like the over!!! 53.5

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2011 - 7:26 PM ET #12

    [Quote: Originally Posted by Champkande] IF NEW ENGLAND DOESNT COVER ILL NEVER BET ANOTHER FOOTBALL GAME AGAIN...

    PATRIOTS BY 20 POINTS

    DIVISION RIVAL, HOT QB, HOTTER RB, AT HOME...PLUS U LAY THAT MANY PTS..OHH PLUS THEY LOST HERNANDEZ WHO WAS A NIGHTMARE TO DEFEND. ILL TAKE BILLS

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Champkande] IF NEW ENGLAND DOESNT COVER ILL NEVER BET ANOTHER FOOTBALL GAME AGAIN...

    PATRIOTS BY 20 POINTS

    DIVISION RIVAL, HOT QB, HOTTER RB, AT HOME...PLUS U LAY THAT MANY PTS..OHH PLUS THEY LOST HERNANDEZ WHO WAS A NIGHTMARE TO DEFEND. ILL TAKE BILLS

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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2011 - 9:25 PM ET #13

         This would probably be a "Prime Play" for me . However, I'm not comfortable laying -9 to a Buffalo team, that always finds a way to play competitive football in their early season games with the Pats. If you don't believe me, check out the last 3 season yourself!. I'm praying like hell  that the Bills with their porous defense cooperate!

    NEW ENGLAND  - 9

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         This would probably be a "Prime Play" for me . However, I'm not comfortable laying -9 to a Buffalo team, that always finds a way to play competitive football in their early season games with the Pats. If you don't believe me, check out the last 3 season yourself!. I'm praying like hell  that the Bills with their porous defense cooperate!

    NEW ENGLAND  - 9

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2011 - 1:42 AM ET #14

    Rain could hurt the Over
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    Rain could hurt the Over
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2011 - 3:10 AM ET #15

    I would love to take the Bills in this position because I love home dawgs and 9 points is alot for a home dawg.....



    but I'm not crossing my fingers everytime Brady drops back.....



    Last week they had to mount a comeback against Oakland..... I'm still not a believer in Oakland.....


    NE is going to get up early and the Bills will be playing catch-up the whole game....


    Belicheck doesn't even use clock management anymore to grind out the game...


    did you see the Miami Game?  4th quarter and your up by 2 scores in your own endzone and you go 5-wide?  really?


    They must be calling Vegas and betting on themselves....



    I'll roll with Brady until I get burnt..... 9 points is nothing from this team.... remember 07 when it was always double digits with Moss?  it's going to start again after this game....



    NE -9

    GL TO ALL!
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    I would love to take the Bills in this position because I love home dawgs and 9 points is alot for a home dawg.....



    but I'm not crossing my fingers everytime Brady drops back.....



    Last week they had to mount a comeback against Oakland..... I'm still not a believer in Oakland.....


    NE is going to get up early and the Bills will be playing catch-up the whole game....


    Belicheck doesn't even use clock management anymore to grind out the game...


    did you see the Miami Game?  4th quarter and your up by 2 scores in your own endzone and you go 5-wide?  really?


    They must be calling Vegas and betting on themselves....



    I'll roll with Brady until I get burnt..... 9 points is nothing from this team.... remember 07 when it was always double digits with Moss?  it's going to start again after this game....



    NE -9

    GL TO ALL!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2011 - 11:29 AM ET #16

    buff plus 9
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    buff plus 9
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2011 - 7:27 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    I would love to take the Bills in this position because I love home dawgs and 9 points is alot for a home dawg.....



    but I'm not crossing my fingers everytime Brady drops back.....



    Last week they had to mount a comeback against Oakland..... I'm still not a believer in Oakland.....


    NE is going to get up early and the Bills will be playing catch-up the whole game....


    Belicheck doesn't even use clock management anymore to grind out the game...


    did you see the Miami Game?  4th quarter and your up by 2 scores in your own endzone and you go 5-wide?  really?


    They must be calling Vegas and betting on themselves....



    I'll roll with Brady until I get burnt..... 9 points is nothing from this team.... remember 07 when it was always double digits with Moss?  it's going to start again after this game....



    NE -9

    GL TO ALL!


    6 pt+ lines in the NFL typically scare me due to backdoor covers but not with Belicheck. him and Tressel both LOVE(d) to cover.  i dont mind laying the pts w/ the pats. he uses every second of the game as practice and doesn't care if people accuse him of running up the score.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    I would love to take the Bills in this position because I love home dawgs and 9 points is alot for a home dawg.....



    but I'm not crossing my fingers everytime Brady drops back.....



    Last week they had to mount a comeback against Oakland..... I'm still not a believer in Oakland.....


    NE is going to get up early and the Bills will be playing catch-up the whole game....


    Belicheck doesn't even use clock management anymore to grind out the game...


    did you see the Miami Game?  4th quarter and your up by 2 scores in your own endzone and you go 5-wide?  really?


    They must be calling Vegas and betting on themselves....



    I'll roll with Brady until I get burnt..... 9 points is nothing from this team.... remember 07 when it was always double digits with Moss?  it's going to start again after this game....



    NE -9

    GL TO ALL!


    6 pt+ lines in the NFL typically scare me due to backdoor covers but not with Belicheck. him and Tressel both LOVE(d) to cover.  i dont mind laying the pts w/ the pats. he uses every second of the game as practice and doesn't care if people accuse him of running up the score.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2011 - 5:19 PM ET #18

    So, the Bills beat the second worst team in the league right now in the Chiefs (Colts being #1), barely squeak by the frickin' Raiders at home, and now all of a sudden all week we're hearing about this hot new reenergized media darling Buffalo team??

    No way, not now, not ever........

    Here's where the reality will set in.

    Pats -7.5

     

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    So, the Bills beat the second worst team in the league right now in the Chiefs (Colts being #1), barely squeak by the frickin' Raiders at home, and now all of a sudden all week we're hearing about this hot new reenergized media darling Buffalo team??

    No way, not now, not ever........

    Here's where the reality will set in.

    Pats -7.5

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2011 - 6:01 PM ET #19

    Any idea why this line moved from -9 to -7.5??? Is that not fishy to anyone?

    I thought rain would move the total a bit too, so not sure if that's it.

    Anyone?!?
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    Any idea why this line moved from -9 to -7.5??? Is that not fishy to anyone?

    I thought rain would move the total a bit too, so not sure if that's it.

    Anyone?!?
     
    byabeach
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2011 - 8:10 PM ET #20

    your going down Col

     

    N  E  covers easy

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    your going down Col

     

    N  E  covers easy

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2011 - 8:53 PM ET #21

    Bills will want to show they are for real.
    Bellicheck will have his team sharp. He does not allow his players the opportunity to "look ahead".
    I believe the Pats coaching staff has been on a mission. They look at Buffalo and are saying " oh, no you don't". Bills play well enough to hang in there for a half. Then NE kicks it into another gear.
    Important!! This is a division game. Pats are the superior team and will show the Bills that fact.
    NEP to cover the number.
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    Bills will want to show they are for real.
    Bellicheck will have his team sharp. He does not allow his players the opportunity to "look ahead".
    I believe the Pats coaching staff has been on a mission. They look at Buffalo and are saying " oh, no you don't". Bills play well enough to hang in there for a half. Then NE kicks it into another gear.
    Important!! This is a division game. Pats are the superior team and will show the Bills that fact.
    NEP to cover the number.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 9:40 AM ET #22

    I will lay the wood with the pats until they burn me! ith that offense points are not a problem against most defenses, especially the bills. yes the bills have been playing well, and freddy jacksons tearing it up, but when bradys making td's every drive fitzys gotta start slinging it.....and thats when he'll get into trouble. Stevie johnsons not 100% either. The pats just played SD who is a better team with better weapons, and they covered by 14. The pats win and cover by atleast 10. I won't touch 0/U because I'd rather just hit this spread HARD! NE -7.5 
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    I will lay the wood with the pats until they burn me! ith that offense points are not a problem against most defenses, especially the bills. yes the bills have been playing well, and freddy jacksons tearing it up, but when bradys making td's every drive fitzys gotta start slinging it.....and thats when he'll get into trouble. Stevie johnsons not 100% either. The pats just played SD who is a better team with better weapons, and they covered by 14. The pats win and cover by atleast 10. I won't touch 0/U because I'd rather just hit this spread HARD! NE -7.5 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 10:16 AM ET #23

    Bills get a reality check courtesy of Brady & company

    Pats -7.... Book em Dano  

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    Bills get a reality check courtesy of Brady & company

    Pats -7.... Book em Dano  

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 10:30 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by byabeach:

    your going down Col

     

    N  E  covers easy

    There's a first time for everything my friend lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by byabeach:

    your going down Col

     

    N  E  covers easy

    There's a first time for everything my friend lol
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2011 - 2:17 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by lonelycoyote:

     

    I guess we won't see you here again then...


    Pretty much all in on the Pats/Over so lets see what happens 
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    Quote Originally Posted by lonelycoyote:

     

    I guess we won't see you here again then...


    Pretty much all in on the Pats/Over so lets see what happens 
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