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    Miami at Buffalo (11/29/2009)

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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 1:50 AM ET #1

    Away:  Miami [5-5 ATS]
    Home:  Buffalo [5-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Ralph Wilson Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    10/04/09 - BUF 10 vs. MIA 38

    Team Leaders:

    Miami:
    Passing: Chad Henne (1337)
    Rushing: Ricky Williams (677)
    Receiving: Davone Bess (397)

    Buffalo:
    Passing: Trent Edwards (1170)
    Rushing: Fred Jackson (528)
    Receiving: Terrell Owens (563)

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    Away:  Miami [5-5 ATS]
    Home:  Buffalo [5-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Ralph Wilson Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    10/04/09 - BUF 10 vs. MIA 38

    Team Leaders:

    Miami:
    Passing: Chad Henne (1337)
    Rushing: Ricky Williams (677)
    Receiving: Davone Bess (397)

    Buffalo:
    Passing: Trent Edwards (1170)
    Rushing: Fred Jackson (528)
    Receiving: Terrell Owens (563)

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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 2:52 AM ET #2

    I like Miami in this spot. Good luck to all.
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    I like Miami in this spot. Good luck to all.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 12:38 PM ET #3

    the first time we agree. miami
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    the first time we agree. miami
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 1:17 PM ET #4

    Bills lost both starting gaurds last week, which makes an already bad o-line now horrible. They allow alot of sacks and Miami is near the top of the league in sacks, so the QB will not have time to get it to the Bills strong Wrs.

    Bills have the worst run D in the league, allowing 4.9 ypc, and Miami has a very strong running game, and with Pat White they can actually run some better wildcat plays than they had with Ronnie Brown in there.

    Miami -3

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    Bills lost both starting gaurds last week, which makes an already bad o-line now horrible. They allow alot of sacks and Miami is near the top of the league in sacks, so the QB will not have time to get it to the Bills strong Wrs.

    Bills have the worst run D in the league, allowing 4.9 ypc, and Miami has a very strong running game, and with Pat White they can actually run some better wildcat plays than they had with Ronnie Brown in there.

    Miami -3

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 1:31 PM ET #5

    Sparano has put the clamps down on the wildcat. I doubt we will see the wildpat this week. Last game I think they only ran 2 plays out of the wildcat. The didnt have to with the way that Reefer was running over Panthers.

    Jason Ferguson is out for the season and that really sucks. The 15 year vet has been playing great all season. It is time for Soliai to step it up. He has shown glimpses of being a beast, but he doesn't consistently bring it. I would expect Miami to mix in more 4-3 fronts than usually, but there is enough depth for their D to continue to be stout against the run.

    This week they play a Buffalo squad thats been banged up since 1999. Although Henne's stats against the Panthers wont wow anybody he looked very impressive. And pass defense is one of the few things that they Panthers actually do well. I look for Henne to have another solid game.

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    Sparano has put the clamps down on the wildcat. I doubt we will see the wildpat this week. Last game I think they only ran 2 plays out of the wildcat. The didnt have to with the way that Reefer was running over Panthers.

    Jason Ferguson is out for the season and that really sucks. The 15 year vet has been playing great all season. It is time for Soliai to step it up. He has shown glimpses of being a beast, but he doesn't consistently bring it. I would expect Miami to mix in more 4-3 fronts than usually, but there is enough depth for their D to continue to be stout against the run.

    This week they play a Buffalo squad thats been banged up since 1999. Although Henne's stats against the Panthers wont wow anybody he looked very impressive. And pass defense is one of the few things that they Panthers actually do well. I look for Henne to have another solid game.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 3:00 PM ET #6

    Extra time off, plus T.O. is a big fat douchebag. Plus the fins are Big Daddy's team - GO WILDCATS!!!!!!!! oops, I mean Dolphins.....
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    Extra time off, plus T.O. is a big fat douchebag. Plus the fins are Big Daddy's team - GO WILDCATS!!!!!!!! oops, I mean Dolphins.....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 6:05 PM ET #7

     never know if the wildcat works, like buffalo at home
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     never know if the wildcat works, like buffalo at home
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2009 - 10:46 PM ET #8

    With a Miami win here, they keep thier playoff hopes alive. I feel confident Coach S gets this team focused and ready to seize the moment.  With the Bills pathetic strength and conditioning coach and usually injuries year after year, I can't see home field correcting this problem.  I think you see Ricky do his thing here and beat up the Bills from a physical standpoint, the weather will be just right in the high 40's and sunny. Dolphins will get after Fitzpatrick and make Buffalo fans realize, they not only don't have a coach, but have no QB for the future. Fish 33 Bills 17, Jump on...............
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    With a Miami win here, they keep thier playoff hopes alive. I feel confident Coach S gets this team focused and ready to seize the moment.  With the Bills pathetic strength and conditioning coach and usually injuries year after year, I can't see home field correcting this problem.  I think you see Ricky do his thing here and beat up the Bills from a physical standpoint, the weather will be just right in the high 40's and sunny. Dolphins will get after Fitzpatrick and make Buffalo fans realize, they not only don't have a coach, but have no QB for the future. Fish 33 Bills 17, Jump on...............
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 3:10 AM ET #9

     Just seen that my Dolphins released Matt Roth...he has been out early in the season and has played a very limited role this season but we need all the experienced bodies we can get due to all of our injuries...

    Also heard that we just signed off free agency former Lions and Hawaii Warrior DE/DT Ikaika Alama Francis. He has great work ethic and can play but not sure why the Lions released him. But with his pick up I think jerrywrasse hit it on the nose to where I think Miami will start to go from a 3-4 to a 4-3 defense more often.

    Miami has been trying to find ways to put Porter, Taylor, and Wake on the field at the same time and going to a 4-3 defense might just do it.

    The loss of Ronnie Brown was big for us but Ricky proved in the Panthers game that he can still play..Watch for up and coming Lex Hilliard to make an impact as well in the running game to keep Ricky's legs fresh. Lex can play and is hard to take down so with Ronnie out for the season this is his chance to shine.

    No Ronnie = very minimal wildcat but the Dolphins proved they can run the ball conventional style.

    I'm still worried about Miami's defense. They are 2 rookie corners learning as they go so mistakes will happen but they really need to be mistake free going up against T.O & Lee Evans. T.O had a big game last week so I'm looking for the Bills to test the young corners early

    Miami's defense always shines for 3qtrs of their games...it's the 4th qtr that I worry about as we are the worst in the leauge in giving up points in the 4th qtr. If this game stays really close my balls will really hurt...

    Both teams with lots of injuries so I'm not too sure if my Dolphins can take this one easily as the Bills have shown some life last week against the Jax...I know the Bills would love to spoil any chances of Miami going to the playoffs so it's very tough to call.

    Anyway...

    LET'S GO DOLPHINS!!!!!!!!!

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     Just seen that my Dolphins released Matt Roth...he has been out early in the season and has played a very limited role this season but we need all the experienced bodies we can get due to all of our injuries...

    Also heard that we just signed off free agency former Lions and Hawaii Warrior DE/DT Ikaika Alama Francis. He has great work ethic and can play but not sure why the Lions released him. But with his pick up I think jerrywrasse hit it on the nose to where I think Miami will start to go from a 3-4 to a 4-3 defense more often.

    Miami has been trying to find ways to put Porter, Taylor, and Wake on the field at the same time and going to a 4-3 defense might just do it.

    The loss of Ronnie Brown was big for us but Ricky proved in the Panthers game that he can still play..Watch for up and coming Lex Hilliard to make an impact as well in the running game to keep Ricky's legs fresh. Lex can play and is hard to take down so with Ronnie out for the season this is his chance to shine.

    No Ronnie = very minimal wildcat but the Dolphins proved they can run the ball conventional style.

    I'm still worried about Miami's defense. They are 2 rookie corners learning as they go so mistakes will happen but they really need to be mistake free going up against T.O & Lee Evans. T.O had a big game last week so I'm looking for the Bills to test the young corners early

    Miami's defense always shines for 3qtrs of their games...it's the 4th qtr that I worry about as we are the worst in the leauge in giving up points in the 4th qtr. If this game stays really close my balls will really hurt...

    Both teams with lots of injuries so I'm not too sure if my Dolphins can take this one easily as the Bills have shown some life last week against the Jax...I know the Bills would love to spoil any chances of Miami going to the playoffs so it's very tough to call.

    Anyway...

    LET'S GO DOLPHINS!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 3:12 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Boludojones:

    Extra time off, plus T.O. is a big fat douchebag. Plus the fins are Big Daddy's team - GO WILDCATS!!!!!!!! oops, I mean Dolphins.....

    Good luck bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boludojones:

    Extra time off, plus T.O. is a big fat douchebag. Plus the fins are Big Daddy's team - GO WILDCATS!!!!!!!! oops, I mean Dolphins.....

    Good luck bro

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 6:17 PM ET #11

     buffalo will win by 2
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     buffalo will win by 2
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 8:52 PM ET #12

        The rubber band comes off the bankroll here! The Bills were counting on a victory LW in Jax. Nice cover , but no cigar! Now Miami comes to town in a key division contest. Buffalo, for all their faults, does play pretty decent pass defense. Just too bad for them that the Fins love to pound the rock!  Many people LW were blinded by a far superior Miami team against the Panthers! Now they step another notch down in class, against hapless Buffalo! I love the fact, I only have to lay the 3! 
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        The rubber band comes off the bankroll here! The Bills were counting on a victory LW in Jax. Nice cover , but no cigar! Now Miami comes to town in a key division contest. Buffalo, for all their faults, does play pretty decent pass defense. Just too bad for them that the Fins love to pound the rock!  Many people LW were blinded by a far superior Miami team against the Panthers! Now they step another notch down in class, against hapless Buffalo! I love the fact, I only have to lay the 3! 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 9:01 PM ET #13

        If you have to play 2  consecutive road games, pray you are playing against wimps! Miami- no sweat- no problem here. A major wager, again!  I have to pinch myself LW for taking the Dolphins!
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        If you have to play 2  consecutive road games, pray you are playing against wimps! Miami- no sweat- no problem here. A major wager, again!  I have to pinch myself LW for taking the Dolphins!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2009 - 11:54 PM ET #14

    i don't think this game is as easy as it seems. it almost seems like a LOCK doesn't it? MIA -3/3.5 is a no brainer pick.  not so fast.

    did anyone see how bad the BUF run d was against MJD? 25 carries for 66 yards. i know it's only one game but it was under a new coach who will put the emphasis on stacking the box and stopping the run. BUF has a good secondary and they will challenge other teams to beat them thru the pass. 

    on the other side, their offense is taking more risk by going downfield and i'm not sure if MIA young secondary can contain the likes of TO and Lee Evans. 

    I'll take the home dog here. Line is currently at MIA -3. Waiting for it go up to 3.5/4 since the money will be heavily on MIA. BOL 
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    i don't think this game is as easy as it seems. it almost seems like a LOCK doesn't it? MIA -3/3.5 is a no brainer pick.  not so fast.

    did anyone see how bad the BUF run d was against MJD? 25 carries for 66 yards. i know it's only one game but it was under a new coach who will put the emphasis on stacking the box and stopping the run. BUF has a good secondary and they will challenge other teams to beat them thru the pass. 

    on the other side, their offense is taking more risk by going downfield and i'm not sure if MIA young secondary can contain the likes of TO and Lee Evans. 

    I'll take the home dog here. Line is currently at MIA -3. Waiting for it go up to 3.5/4 since the money will be heavily on MIA. BOL 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2009 - 6:58 AM ET #15

    Miami playing in the cold.  Interesting concept. Bills may fold or may win for pride.  who knows
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    Miami playing in the cold.  Interesting concept. Bills may fold or may win for pride.  who knows
     
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    Posted: Nov. 26, 2009 - 11:05 PM ET #16

    miami is the better team.. im going miami
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    miami is the better team.. im going miami
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2009 - 12:14 AM ET #17

    I like the over in this one but still waiting a weather check...
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    I like the over in this one but still waiting a weather check...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2009 - 12:50 AM ET #18

    Hate to go Corso but this one ends up closer than the experts think. Give me the home dog, hopeful for 4 points. You guys lay them hard for me. Thanks-
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    Hate to go Corso but this one ends up closer than the experts think. Give me the home dog, hopeful for 4 points. You guys lay them hard for me. Thanks-
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2009 - 12:57 AM ET #19

    miami is the pick -3.5
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    miami is the pick -3.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2009 - 11:27 AM ET #20

    Billz +3.5
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    Billz +3.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2009 - 12:27 PM ET #21

    Miami seems like the pick, but there are too many factors that would have to be answered, in order for me to play this one. The line is set at where I think this game will be decided, so I'll go on to the next game.

    Good luck to everyone that plays this one... For what's it's worth, I'd take the under. I think there will be a lot of punting in this one.

     

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    Miami seems like the pick, but there are too many factors that would have to be answered, in order for me to play this one. The line is set at where I think this game will be decided, so I'll go on to the next game.

    Good luck to everyone that plays this one... For what's it's worth, I'd take the under. I think there will be a lot of punting in this one.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2009 - 6:51 PM ET #22

    I don't usually like fading Vegas, but I like Miami to cover (77% public faves).  Buffalo’s secondary is good, but the rest of the team isn’t.  Henne is used to cold weather playing in MI, so that won’t be a problem.  Ronnie Brown being out isn’t a factor as Sticky Ricky can carry the load.  Dolphins need this win and Buffalo can call it a season.

    Dolphins – 20  

    Bills – 10.

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    I don't usually like fading Vegas, but I like Miami to cover (77% public faves).  Buffalo’s secondary is good, but the rest of the team isn’t.  Henne is used to cold weather playing in MI, so that won’t be a problem.  Ronnie Brown being out isn’t a factor as Sticky Ricky can carry the load.  Dolphins need this win and Buffalo can call it a season.

    Dolphins – 20  

    Bills – 10.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2009 - 7:38 PM ET #23

    If MIa cant do the thing that we want it not cant then it wont b it
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    If MIa cant do the thing that we want it not cant then it wont b it
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2009 - 10:32 PM ET #24

    MIA -3: As long as Sparano sticks with Williams, Miami should easily defeat a Buffalo squad that currently has major offensive line issues. Score: Dolphiins 28-Bills 21 (1 units) --the weather may be an issue.
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    MIA -3: As long as Sparano sticks with Williams, Miami should easily defeat a Buffalo squad that currently has major offensive line issues. Score: Dolphiins 28-Bills 21 (1 units) --the weather may be an issue.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2009 - 2:03 AM ET #25

    division game take the 3.5 from the home team. Miami always has problems traveling and playing in buffalo (look past last year it was played in a dome)

    Bills probably the best play on the board this week.

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    division game take the 3.5 from the home team. Miami always has problems traveling and playing in buffalo (look past last year it was played in a dome)

    Bills probably the best play on the board this week.

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