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    Jacksonville at New England (12/27/2009)

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    Posted: Dec. 21, 2009 - 3:47 AM ET #1

    Away:  Jacksonville [5-9 ATS]
    Home:  New England [6-7-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Gillette Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Jacksonville:
    Passing: David Garrard (3210)
    Rushing: Maurice Jones-Drew (1246)
    Receiving: Mike Sims-Walker (822)

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (3945)
    Rushing: Laurence Maroney (735)
    Receiving: Wes Welker (1198)

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    Away:  Jacksonville [5-9 ATS]
    Home:  New England [6-7-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Gillette Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Jacksonville:
    Passing: David Garrard (3210)
    Rushing: Maurice Jones-Drew (1246)
    Receiving: Mike Sims-Walker (822)

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (3945)
    Rushing: Laurence Maroney (735)
    Receiving: Wes Welker (1198)

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    coltpower
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2009 - 5:32 PM ET #2

    Pats looking a little out of sync lately and the Jags have to win out. Look for a constant pounding of MJD against a Patriot defense that stops practically nothing of late. ( by nothing I mean any team not offensively challenged ).
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    Pats looking a little out of sync lately and the Jags have to win out. Look for a constant pounding of MJD against a Patriot defense that stops practically nothing of late. ( by nothing I mean any team not offensively challenged ).
     
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    Posted: Dec. 22, 2009 - 10:29 PM ET #3

    jags to cover this game
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    jags to cover this game
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2009 - 11:03 AM ET #4

    I like Jax here......NE just isn't quite right and will be getting lines that are tied to their reputation, not reality for the next few weeks.  NE can be beat by anybody right now who pressures Tom Brady, runs and passes the ball decent, doesn't turn it over and can score 24 or more.......Jax fits all those situations and is fighting for a chance at the playoffs.
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    I like Jax here......NE just isn't quite right and will be getting lines that are tied to their reputation, not reality for the next few weeks.  NE can be beat by anybody right now who pressures Tom Brady, runs and passes the ball decent, doesn't turn it over and can score 24 or more.......Jax fits all those situations and is fighting for a chance at the playoffs.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 23, 2009 - 1:01 PM ET #5

    Pats getting back on track.
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    Pats getting back on track.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2009 - 10:06 AM ET #6

    Easy win and cover for the Pats in NewEngland weather against a Florida team.
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    Easy win and cover for the Pats in NewEngland weather against a Florida team.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 24, 2009 - 10:38 AM ET #7

    The New England Patriots don't lose often to the Jacksonville Jaguars, and should have pleasant memories of the last time these teams met.

    The Patriots look to clinch the AFC East title and complete a perfect home slate Sunday when they host the Jaguars, who need a win to boost their fading playoff hopes.

    While New England has been perfect at Gillette Stadium, the Patriots earned their first road win in the United States last Sunday with a 17-10 victory at Buffalo. That result, coupled with losses by the Jets and Miami, put New England on the brink of its sixth division crown in seven years.

    "Anytime you get an opportunity to clinch the division, it's a key thing," receiver Wes Welker said. "So, we definitely need to come out there and play some good football."

    "I don't want to think it's a wasted year because we're not undefeated," Brady said. "That's not really the goal at the beginning of the year anyway. The goal is to win the division and put yourself in a position in the playoffs, and we have a great opportunity for that."

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    The New England Patriots don't lose often to the Jacksonville Jaguars, and should have pleasant memories of the last time these teams met.

    The Patriots look to clinch the AFC East title and complete a perfect home slate Sunday when they host the Jaguars, who need a win to boost their fading playoff hopes.

    While New England has been perfect at Gillette Stadium, the Patriots earned their first road win in the United States last Sunday with a 17-10 victory at Buffalo. That result, coupled with losses by the Jets and Miami, put New England on the brink of its sixth division crown in seven years.

    "Anytime you get an opportunity to clinch the division, it's a key thing," receiver Wes Welker said. "So, we definitely need to come out there and play some good football."

    "I don't want to think it's a wasted year because we're not undefeated," Brady said. "That's not really the goal at the beginning of the year anyway. The goal is to win the division and put yourself in a position in the playoffs, and we have a great opportunity for that."

     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2009 - 10:45 PM ET #8

    Like the Pats here to keep it moving by 10 at least !!!!
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    Like the Pats here to keep it moving by 10 at least !!!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2009 - 12:08 AM ET #9

    I agree with Coltpower and Irisheyez. Jags are also out to prove that their fans will regret not supporting them when they make the playoffs and move in a year or two.  They're the most unpopular home team, which is surprising.  Taylor even called out the fans.  They're making noise, so hopefully Brady goes deaf Sunday.  Come on JAGS!!
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    I agree with Coltpower and Irisheyez. Jags are also out to prove that their fans will regret not supporting them when they make the playoffs and move in a year or two.  They're the most unpopular home team, which is surprising.  Taylor even called out the fans.  They're making noise, so hopefully Brady goes deaf Sunday.  Come on JAGS!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2009 - 12:39 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by nickelroof:

    I agree with Coltpower and Irisheyez. Jags are also out to prove that their fans will regret not supporting them when they make the playoffs and move in a year or two.  They're the most unpopular home team, which is surprising.  Taylor even called out the fans.  They're making noise, so hopefully Brady goes deaf Sunday.  Come on JAGS!!


    How will Brady go deaf? Game is in Foxboro. Pats can seal up a playoff spot with a win. All I am ertain of is a win. Wether by 9 or 1, they will get it done. Guyton and Wlfork are back, and Fred Taylor i gonna play hard against old team. Say goodnight Jax...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickelroof:

    I agree with Coltpower and Irisheyez. Jags are also out to prove that their fans will regret not supporting them when they make the playoffs and move in a year or two.  They're the most unpopular home team, which is surprising.  Taylor even called out the fans.  They're making noise, so hopefully Brady goes deaf Sunday.  Come on JAGS!!


    How will Brady go deaf? Game is in Foxboro. Pats can seal up a playoff spot with a win. All I am ertain of is a win. Wether by 9 or 1, they will get it done. Guyton and Wlfork are back, and Fred Taylor i gonna play hard against old team. Say goodnight Jax...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2009 - 11:24 AM ET #11

    I see a lot of people on this forum with the Jaguars with or without write-ups and a lot of "experts picks" taking the Jaguars on the moneyline.
    Arguments? Nobody trust in New England defense and this Patriots are not the same like the Pats 2 years ago & the Jaguars played well against the Colts and have extra days for this game and they need more this game.
    Well i think you are wrong , why?
    1. Motivation for the Jaguars? They played must win games (3) at home and they lost the last 2, one a heartbreaking with Miami and the other with the Colts who are playing lose football right now. Now they want this game more?  who are in 2-4 road record? Why?
    2. WEATHER FACTOR is huge, there will be rain and very cold weather at game time, this is Tom Brady ground, i don`t remember losing Tom Brady at home at this situation. Do you think a Florida team could play normal at this forecast?
    3- New England is 7-0 at home, if they win they clinched the division and they will play next week with bench players with Houston to get ready to the Wild Card Weekend at home.
    4. Don`t trust on New England defense, could be, but the numbers said they are giving only 10.5 points average in the last 4 games at home. Do you like Jaguars offense with Garrard on the road? well, they have a "great" 10 points average mark in the last 4 games on the road.
    5. Tom Brady and his offense are average 34.25 points in his last 4 games and Jaguars defense giving 28.25 points on the last 4 road games.
    With that numbers, weather factor, home field advantage and motivation all in New Enland edge how in the hell i can trust my money in the Jaguars this week?
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    I see a lot of people on this forum with the Jaguars with or without write-ups and a lot of "experts picks" taking the Jaguars on the moneyline.
    Arguments? Nobody trust in New England defense and this Patriots are not the same like the Pats 2 years ago & the Jaguars played well against the Colts and have extra days for this game and they need more this game.
    Well i think you are wrong , why?
    1. Motivation for the Jaguars? They played must win games (3) at home and they lost the last 2, one a heartbreaking with Miami and the other with the Colts who are playing lose football right now. Now they want this game more?  who are in 2-4 road record? Why?
    2. WEATHER FACTOR is huge, there will be rain and very cold weather at game time, this is Tom Brady ground, i don`t remember losing Tom Brady at home at this situation. Do you think a Florida team could play normal at this forecast?
    3- New England is 7-0 at home, if they win they clinched the division and they will play next week with bench players with Houston to get ready to the Wild Card Weekend at home.
    4. Don`t trust on New England defense, could be, but the numbers said they are giving only 10.5 points average in the last 4 games at home. Do you like Jaguars offense with Garrard on the road? well, they have a "great" 10 points average mark in the last 4 games on the road.
    5. Tom Brady and his offense are average 34.25 points in his last 4 games and Jaguars defense giving 28.25 points on the last 4 road games.
    With that numbers, weather factor, home field advantage and motivation all in New Enland edge how in the hell i can trust my money in the Jaguars this week?
    GUS
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2009 - 12:00 PM ET #12

    -9 Seems a little bit  much but I see the Pats winning this game easily so I'll lay it.

    BOL to all.

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    -9 Seems a little bit  much but I see the Pats winning this game easily so I'll lay it.

    BOL to all.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2009 - 12:40 PM ET #13

    Jag's            off  /  def              Pat's         off  /  def     

    total             15  /  20                                2  /  10

    pass             18  /  27                               4  /  10

    rush               8  /  11                                14  /  15

    Jag's average score on the road 13 to 25

    Pat's average score at home 30 to 13

    Pat's to  win

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    Jag's            off  /  def              Pat's         off  /  def     

    total             15  /  20                                2  /  10

    pass             18  /  27                               4  /  10

    rush               8  /  11                                14  /  15

    Jag's average score on the road 13 to 25

    Pat's average score at home 30 to 13

    Pat's to  win

     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2009 - 8:12 PM ET #14

    Happy Holidays and all the best in the New Year to everyone.

     

    I'm heading out holidays down south ( everything is down south from Canada...lol ) so just wanted to post my NFL picks for tomorrow.  It's been a great great year, won alot of money....let's end it with more. 

     

    Overall 2010 record 107- 48- 8.......Posted on Covers 15-5

     

    Green Bay -14

    Oakland +3

    KC +13.5

    Buffalo +9.5

    Houston +1

    NYG -7

    N.E. -9.5

    Balt +3

    Ariz -14

    SF -13.5

    Indy -4.5

     

    As you can see, I stayed away from Den/Philly and  Dal/Wash games.  Too close to call

     

    My 2 biggest plays that I'm maxing out on are NWO -14 and Balt +3.......HUGE !!!!!!

     

    Good luck to all......Happy New year

     

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    Happy Holidays and all the best in the New Year to everyone.

     

    I'm heading out holidays down south ( everything is down south from Canada...lol ) so just wanted to post my NFL picks for tomorrow.  It's been a great great year, won alot of money....let's end it with more. 

     

    Overall 2010 record 107- 48- 8.......Posted on Covers 15-5

     

    Green Bay -14

    Oakland +3

    KC +13.5

    Buffalo +9.5

    Houston +1

    NYG -7

    N.E. -9.5

    Balt +3

    Ariz -14

    SF -13.5

    Indy -4.5

     

    As you can see, I stayed away from Den/Philly and  Dal/Wash games.  Too close to call

     

    My 2 biggest plays that I'm maxing out on are NWO -14 and Balt +3.......HUGE !!!!!!

     

    Good luck to all......Happy New year

     

    Sandman

     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2009 - 8:35 PM ET #15

    Jags +8: no one is believing in the Jags while the Pats have sewn up the division. While New England is the better team, they're not good enough to be laying 8 points. Score: Jaguars 20-Patriots 18 (4 units).
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    Jags +8: no one is believing in the Jags while the Pats have sewn up the division. While New England is the better team, they're not good enough to be laying 8 points. Score: Jaguars 20-Patriots 18 (4 units).
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2009 - 10:54 PM ET #16

    New England -10 (-105)
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    New England -10 (-105)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 3:34 AM ET #17

    Seems like its been at least a month maybe more since NE beat up on a team, Ya know sooner or later they are going to open up a can on somebody and for some reason I feel its gonna be this game. Last time Jags hit the road they went out and laid an egg in SF 3-20 and if they 9ers can work 'em like that I know NE can if everything falls in its right place -- PATS-10
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    Seems like its been at least a month maybe more since NE beat up on a team, Ya know sooner or later they are going to open up a can on somebody and for some reason I feel its gonna be this game. Last time Jags hit the road they went out and laid an egg in SF 3-20 and if they 9ers can work 'em like that I know NE can if everything falls in its right place -- PATS-10
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 7:55 AM ET #18

    New England - 21                               Jacksonville - 13

    Jaguars +10                     under 43.5

    It's been awhile since the Pats covered a spread. Maybe next week.

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    New England - 21                               Jacksonville - 13

    Jaguars +10                     under 43.5

    It's been awhile since the Pats covered a spread. Maybe next week.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 9:42 AM ET #19

    Jax/under, Rain throughout the game.  Wind at 15mph and rain will have some effect on the game. I think the person who lump Jax as a Florida team has never been to Jax. Jax is as cold as anyplace in the winter minus the snow. Football players are wimps. Weather will effect the play call, not the performance.
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    Jax/under, Rain throughout the game.  Wind at 15mph and rain will have some effect on the game. I think the person who lump Jax as a Florida team has never been to Jax. Jax is as cold as anyplace in the winter minus the snow. Football players are wimps. Weather will effect the play call, not the performance.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 9:50 AM ET #20

    Over 43.5
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    Over 43.5
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 10:31 AM ET #21

    Now I know I'm on the right side.......I can't believe how many people are ready to lay almost double digits to the Jags........with a couple of breaks this season, they would have a better record than NE!!!  Jags and the pile of points......and yet another great looking ML game. 

    People!! This is the last two weeks of the year!!  The NFL produces wierd and unexpected outcomes peppered all over these last two weekends every year.  Take some points today and play a few high paying ML games.  Parlay a couple ML games together with more than 7 points dogs and see what kind of a payout you can get on $20-$50 dollars.........I think you will be surprised!!  I am going to post a few on my page that I like and will be playing for just a few bucks.  Stop by and leave me a note telling my I'm a fool or whatever........but please consider this type of play over the next two weeks.     GL all!

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    Now I know I'm on the right side.......I can't believe how many people are ready to lay almost double digits to the Jags........with a couple of breaks this season, they would have a better record than NE!!!  Jags and the pile of points......and yet another great looking ML game. 

    People!! This is the last two weeks of the year!!  The NFL produces wierd and unexpected outcomes peppered all over these last two weekends every year.  Take some points today and play a few high paying ML games.  Parlay a couple ML games together with more than 7 points dogs and see what kind of a payout you can get on $20-$50 dollars.........I think you will be surprised!!  I am going to post a few on my page that I like and will be playing for just a few bucks.  Stop by and leave me a note telling my I'm a fool or whatever........but please consider this type of play over the next two weeks.     GL all!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 12:17 PM ET #22

    I think the Patriots win but can they cover is the question ?   I don't think so is my answer .....
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    I think the Patriots win but can they cover is the question ?   I don't think so is my answer .....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 12:57 PM ET #23

    Like the Jags today
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    Like the Jags today
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2009 - 1:01 PM ET #24

    New England takes control and runs up the score in Foxsboro.  They havent had a huge offensive day in a while but it ends today.  We all know Belichek isnt affraid to run up the score and i think this is no acception.  Pats win and cover the -9.5.

    Good Luck to everyone and Happy Holidays!
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    New England takes control and runs up the score in Foxsboro.  They havent had a huge offensive day in a while but it ends today.  We all know Belichek isnt affraid to run up the score and i think this is no acception.  Pats win and cover the -9.5.

    Good Luck to everyone and Happy Holidays!
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