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    Denver at Dallas (10/06/2013)

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    Sammy_Ace
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2013 - 11:57 AM ET #26

    This Broncos team is eerily similar to the 2007-2008 Patriots that went undefeated in the regular season. New England also went 8-0 ATS in their first 8 games that year. And I think the public is starting to realize that too.

    It might be a little early to bet against the Broncos because they won't be looking ahead this Sunday (they play Jacksonville next week). I would point out, however, that Peyton Manning is on pace for 64 TDs and 0 INTs. That pace is simply not sustainable, and this may sound stupid, but sometimes you need to have a close game to see what your team is made of.

    Another good question to ask, how will having Montie Kiffen hurt or help the Cowboys? Peyton played against the Tampa 2 in practice for a nice chunk of his career in Indy (Kiffen was the defensive coordinator with Dungie). Could that give Manning a big edge this Sunday? Or will Kiffen have his team more prepared for a Peyton Manning offense because of his familiarity with Manning and his tendencies. 

    Dallas sure didn't look prepared for a Peyton-type offense against San Diego last week. The Chargers coach was the offensive coordinator of the Broncos last year so he definitely imported pieces of Denver's offense with him. The results have beem phenomenal for Phil Rivers. But could Dallas have been looking ahead to this showdown vs Denver? Why is this line only 7.5 points??

    For some reason, I think I'm going to take the points with Dallas. I think the ball takes some funny hops and Dallas gets an INT off a tipped pass or something like that. Demarcus Ware will also have to be a major factor for Dallas to be competitive. And most importantly, Dallas will have to give Demarco Murray at least 20 touches, especially if LB Danny Trevathan is out. Dallas actually ranks 7th in the league in time of possession so that will obviously be crucial. Gotta keep Peyton on the sidelines.

    I see the Cowboys losing a close one, but a confidence-builder of a game that gives them a boost into their NFC East showdowns vs the Skins and Eagles in weeks 6 & 7.
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    This Broncos team is eerily similar to the 2007-2008 Patriots that went undefeated in the regular season. New England also went 8-0 ATS in their first 8 games that year. And I think the public is starting to realize that too.

    It might be a little early to bet against the Broncos because they won't be looking ahead this Sunday (they play Jacksonville next week). I would point out, however, that Peyton Manning is on pace for 64 TDs and 0 INTs. That pace is simply not sustainable, and this may sound stupid, but sometimes you need to have a close game to see what your team is made of.

    Another good question to ask, how will having Montie Kiffen hurt or help the Cowboys? Peyton played against the Tampa 2 in practice for a nice chunk of his career in Indy (Kiffen was the defensive coordinator with Dungie). Could that give Manning a big edge this Sunday? Or will Kiffen have his team more prepared for a Peyton Manning offense because of his familiarity with Manning and his tendencies. 

    Dallas sure didn't look prepared for a Peyton-type offense against San Diego last week. The Chargers coach was the offensive coordinator of the Broncos last year so he definitely imported pieces of Denver's offense with him. The results have beem phenomenal for Phil Rivers. But could Dallas have been looking ahead to this showdown vs Denver? Why is this line only 7.5 points??

    For some reason, I think I'm going to take the points with Dallas. I think the ball takes some funny hops and Dallas gets an INT off a tipped pass or something like that. Demarcus Ware will also have to be a major factor for Dallas to be competitive. And most importantly, Dallas will have to give Demarco Murray at least 20 touches, especially if LB Danny Trevathan is out. Dallas actually ranks 7th in the league in time of possession so that will obviously be crucial. Gotta keep Peyton on the sidelines.

    I see the Cowboys losing a close one, but a confidence-builder of a game that gives them a boost into their NFC East showdowns vs the Skins and Eagles in weeks 6 & 7.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2013 - 2:23 PM ET #27

    Denver -7  , they Crush Dallas , I mean obliterates them.

    Broncos 42   Dallas 17 

    Tomo romo has opened his mouth about Denver playing dirty by holding in the secondary. Payton manning is going to slap his mouth shut for him.

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    Denver -7  , they Crush Dallas , I mean obliterates them.

    Broncos 42   Dallas 17 

    Tomo romo has opened his mouth about Denver playing dirty by holding in the secondary. Payton manning is going to slap his mouth shut for him.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2013 - 2:30 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

    This Broncos team is eerily similar to the 2007-2008 Patriots that went undefeated in the regular season. New England also went 8-0 ATS in their first 8 games that year. And I think the public is starting to realize that too.

    It might be a little early to bet against the Broncos because they won't be looking ahead this Sunday (they play Jacksonville next week). I would point out, however, that Peyton Manning is on pace for 64 TDs and 0 INTs. That pace is simply not sustainable, and this may sound stupid, but sometimes you need to have a close game to see what your team is made of.

    Another good question to ask, how will having Montie Kiffen hurt or help the Cowboys? Peyton played against the Tampa 2 in practice for a nice chunk of his career in Indy (Kiffen was the defensive coordinator with Dungie). Could that give Manning a big edge this Sunday? Or will Kiffen have his team more prepared for a Peyton Manning offense because of his familiarity with Manning and his tendencies. 

    Dallas sure didn't look prepared for a Peyton-type offense against San Diego last week. The Chargers coach was the offensive coordinator of the Broncos last year so he definitely imported pieces of Denver's offense with him. The results have beem phenomenal for Phil Rivers. But could Dallas have been looking ahead to this showdown vs Denver? Why is this line only 7.5 points??

    For some reason, I think I'm going to take the points with Dallas. I think the ball takes some funny hops and Dallas gets an INT off a tipped pass or something like that. Demarcus Ware will also have to be a major factor for Dallas to be competitive. And most importantly, Dallas will have to give Demarco Murray at least 20 touches, especially if LB Danny Trevathan is out. Dallas actually ranks 7th in the league in time of possession so that will obviously be crucial. Gotta keep Peyton on the sidelines.

    I see the Cowboys losing a close one, but a confidence-builder of a game that gives them a boost into their NFC East showdowns vs the Skins and Eagles in weeks 6 & 7.

    That's a great point about the ball taking a few funny bounces AGAINST Denver this week.  So far the ball has been bouncing all in their favor.  Not to say their regular play hasn't been beating on people.  But in several of those games the breaks have all bounced their way on top of the better play.  They have several TD's aside from the norm type and their opponents have blown some huge gifts when handed to them.  

    Maybe it's the pressure Denver puts teams under and momentum that causes extra advantages to lean in their favor.  But a pissed, focused, and disrespected Dallas squad at home with much better talent than the last few years is not a team I expect to shake in their boots like the others.  If they had won in San Diego I'd be much more inclined for them to relax and get smoked here, that's their nature.  Just don't see that being their mentality this week.  Especially after countless never-say-die late comebacks last year when hope looked lost and down big.  Those vets truly don't believe they are out of any game until it ends.  

    Not to mention Denver is explosive and but with a finesse style.  What happens when a team hits them in the mouth with power, attitude, and no fear?  We shall see.  Can Dallas do that?  I think there's a good chance.  Will Denver respond late?  With Manning I think they will.  Still leaning on a solid Dallas performance with a late 10 point pull away by the massively talented Broncos offense.  But those expecting Dallas to just get hammered like the others are in for a nervous surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

    This Broncos team is eerily similar to the 2007-2008 Patriots that went undefeated in the regular season. New England also went 8-0 ATS in their first 8 games that year. And I think the public is starting to realize that too.

    It might be a little early to bet against the Broncos because they won't be looking ahead this Sunday (they play Jacksonville next week). I would point out, however, that Peyton Manning is on pace for 64 TDs and 0 INTs. That pace is simply not sustainable, and this may sound stupid, but sometimes you need to have a close game to see what your team is made of.

    Another good question to ask, how will having Montie Kiffen hurt or help the Cowboys? Peyton played against the Tampa 2 in practice for a nice chunk of his career in Indy (Kiffen was the defensive coordinator with Dungie). Could that give Manning a big edge this Sunday? Or will Kiffen have his team more prepared for a Peyton Manning offense because of his familiarity with Manning and his tendencies. 

    Dallas sure didn't look prepared for a Peyton-type offense against San Diego last week. The Chargers coach was the offensive coordinator of the Broncos last year so he definitely imported pieces of Denver's offense with him. The results have beem phenomenal for Phil Rivers. But could Dallas have been looking ahead to this showdown vs Denver? Why is this line only 7.5 points??

    For some reason, I think I'm going to take the points with Dallas. I think the ball takes some funny hops and Dallas gets an INT off a tipped pass or something like that. Demarcus Ware will also have to be a major factor for Dallas to be competitive. And most importantly, Dallas will have to give Demarco Murray at least 20 touches, especially if LB Danny Trevathan is out. Dallas actually ranks 7th in the league in time of possession so that will obviously be crucial. Gotta keep Peyton on the sidelines.

    I see the Cowboys losing a close one, but a confidence-builder of a game that gives them a boost into their NFC East showdowns vs the Skins and Eagles in weeks 6 & 7.

    That's a great point about the ball taking a few funny bounces AGAINST Denver this week.  So far the ball has been bouncing all in their favor.  Not to say their regular play hasn't been beating on people.  But in several of those games the breaks have all bounced their way on top of the better play.  They have several TD's aside from the norm type and their opponents have blown some huge gifts when handed to them.  

    Maybe it's the pressure Denver puts teams under and momentum that causes extra advantages to lean in their favor.  But a pissed, focused, and disrespected Dallas squad at home with much better talent than the last few years is not a team I expect to shake in their boots like the others.  If they had won in San Diego I'd be much more inclined for them to relax and get smoked here, that's their nature.  Just don't see that being their mentality this week.  Especially after countless never-say-die late comebacks last year when hope looked lost and down big.  Those vets truly don't believe they are out of any game until it ends.  

    Not to mention Denver is explosive and but with a finesse style.  What happens when a team hits them in the mouth with power, attitude, and no fear?  We shall see.  Can Dallas do that?  I think there's a good chance.  Will Denver respond late?  With Manning I think they will.  Still leaning on a solid Dallas performance with a late 10 point pull away by the massively talented Broncos offense.  But those expecting Dallas to just get hammered like the others are in for a nervous surprise.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 12:47 AM ET #29

    This ain't ore or Baylor son!!! No gimmes on sundays! This is the NFL where your dollars get taken if you think blowouts going to come game after game. Too many things ready to pop on Payton...no pick streaks, espn all on den jock, etc. Dal has to keep him off field. There's a reason why I'm a doctor!!! Dal covers den Wins for the large!!!Get this money
    If you’re not large, you’re small - the DOC
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    This ain't ore or Baylor son!!! No gimmes on sundays! This is the NFL where your dollars get taken if you think blowouts going to come game after game. Too many things ready to pop on Payton...no pick streaks, espn all on den jock, etc. Dal has to keep him off field. There's a reason why I'm a doctor!!! Dal covers den Wins for the large!!!Get this money
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 6:41 AM ET #30

    Here are my picks for this week:

    DALLAS
    DETROIT
    MIAMI
    KANSAS CITY
    CAROLINA

    late games under review.

    GL
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    Here are my picks for this week:

    DALLAS
    DETROIT
    MIAMI
    KANSAS CITY
    CAROLINA

    late games under review.

    GL
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 7:03 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by sgvdj:

    That was B4 the Cowgirls lost at SD and before Denver blew out the useless Eagles...

    I don't see how the Cowboys can even keep the game close.  This will be a blowout by halftime. 






    I couldn't disagree MORE!!!!      this should still be a battle by halftime.   DIEHARD Dallas fan here who knows my football.   I have no doubt that Denver will win the game, but a blowout by halftime?!?!?!?    that's pretty damn disrespectful.

    But overall we are on the same side as far as betting is concerned.   Denver to WIN and COVER -7.5.       As a Dallas Fan I'm hoping and praying they can keep the "blowout" within ten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgvdj:

    That was B4 the Cowgirls lost at SD and before Denver blew out the useless Eagles...

    I don't see how the Cowboys can even keep the game close.  This will be a blowout by halftime. 






    I couldn't disagree MORE!!!!      this should still be a battle by halftime.   DIEHARD Dallas fan here who knows my football.   I have no doubt that Denver will win the game, but a blowout by halftime?!?!?!?    that's pretty damn disrespectful.

    But overall we are on the same side as far as betting is concerned.   Denver to WIN and COVER -7.5.       As a Dallas Fan I'm hoping and praying they can keep the "blowout" within ten.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 7:12 AM ET #32

    This game goes OVER!!!!!!

    Predicted score  Denver 37......Dallas 28
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    This game goes OVER!!!!!!

    Predicted score  Denver 37......Dallas 28
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 9:41 AM ET #33

    Super Degenerate Teaser Special - pays +160 - mainly "for funzies", although it would more than pay for my beer next week.....

    Ravens +12.5

    Rams -1

    Bears +12

    Giants +7.5

    Panthers +6.5

    Cowboys +18

    Good Luck All!!! See you on the other side

     

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    Super Degenerate Teaser Special - pays +160 - mainly "for funzies", although it would more than pay for my beer next week.....

    Ravens +12.5

    Rams -1

    Bears +12

    Giants +7.5

    Panthers +6.5

    Cowboys +18

    Good Luck All!!! See you on the other side

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 11:28 AM ET #34

    HAHAHA...IT'S TIME FOR THE BIG BROTHER TO JOIN SOME OF THE LITTLE BROTHER'S CATEGORY, WHETHER IT'S A LOSS, OR A PICK... I'LL LET YOU CHOOSE...DALLAS ML
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    HAHAHA...IT'S TIME FOR THE BIG BROTHER TO JOIN SOME OF THE LITTLE BROTHER'S CATEGORY, WHETHER IT'S A LOSS, OR A PICK... I'LL LET YOU CHOOSE...DALLAS ML
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 11:31 AM ET #35

    Broncos boat race them... 27th ranked pass D vs Peyton I'll take any day
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    Broncos boat race them... 27th ranked pass D vs Peyton I'll take any day
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 11:36 AM ET #36

    Dallas +4.5 first half looks attractive if you have to bet against Denver in this one. Manning & Company have had notoriously slow starts this year before cranking up the offense in the second half. 

    Personally, I am going with a six point tease on the Broncos (-1), KC (+3.5) and Denver/Dallas (Over 50), 

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    Dallas +4.5 first half looks attractive if you have to bet against Denver in this one. Manning & Company have had notoriously slow starts this year before cranking up the offense in the second half. 

    Personally, I am going with a six point tease on the Broncos (-1), KC (+3.5) and Denver/Dallas (Over 50), 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 11:41 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by Texan396:

    Denver 1h and gm.


    FYI...Denver hasn't scored 28 in the 1st half of a game this year.

    vs Baltimore = 14
    @ NYG = 10
    vs Oakland = 27
    vs Eagles = 21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texan396:

    Denver 1h and gm.


    FYI...Denver hasn't scored 28 in the 1st half of a game this year.

    vs Baltimore = 14
    @ NYG = 10
    vs Oakland = 27
    vs Eagles = 21

     
    shochuman
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 2:37 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by shochuman:

    Here are my picks for this week:

    DALLAS
    DETROIT
    MIAMI
    KANSAS CITY
    CAROLINA

    late games under review.

    GL

    So far, my 1st set of teams (Detroit, Miami, & KC) are doing well and covering at the half. On my 2nd set, I am doubling up on Dallas and dropping Carolina completely.  Late games are still under review.  GL
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    Quote Originally Posted by shochuman:

    Here are my picks for this week:

    DALLAS
    DETROIT
    MIAMI
    KANSAS CITY
    CAROLINA

    late games under review.

    GL

    So far, my 1st set of teams (Detroit, Miami, & KC) are doing well and covering at the half. On my 2nd set, I am doubling up on Dallas and dropping Carolina completely.  Late games are still under review.  GL
     
    DJNY
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 2:49 PM ET #39

    27-24 Denver....Dallas +7.5
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    27-24 Denver....Dallas +7.5
     
    Camp1728
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 3:29 PM ET #40

    Bet late so I got Denver -9.  Still think they will cover no problem.  Dallas isn't that great.
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    Bet late so I got Denver -9.  Still think they will cover no problem.  Dallas isn't that great.
     
    dannylc27
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 4:19 PM ET #41

    -6 1h?
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    -6 1h?
     
    usmail
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 4:48 PM ET #42

    DENVER AND UNDER
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    DENVER AND UNDER
     
    dannylc27
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 5:03 PM ET #43

    PEYTON!!!
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    PEYTON!!!
     
    W8LIFTER
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 6:09 PM ET #44

    Dallas Cowboys +4.5... 2nd Half LARGE
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    Dallas Cowboys +4.5... 2nd Half LARGE
     
    dannylc27
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 6:13 PM ET #45

    Under? Ha only 13 pts for the over bby!!! Covered my -6 H
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    Under? Ha only 13 pts for the over bby!!! Covered my -6 H
     
    dannylc27
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 6:15 PM ET #46

    I'm not doubting Peyton anymore as long as we keep getting these measly spreads I'll take em all day until I'm proven wrong
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    I'm not doubting Peyton anymore as long as we keep getting these measly spreads I'll take em all day until I'm proven wrong
     
    nycsweetwater
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 6:24 PM ET #47

    8:03 3RD QTR Update

    Denver 35

    Dallas 20
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    8:03 3RD QTR Update

    Denver 35

    Dallas 20
     
    W8LIFTER
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 6:52 PM ET #48

    4th Quarter Update 
    Dallas 33 
    Denver 38
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    4th Quarter Update 
    Dallas 33 
    Denver 38
     
    W8LIFTER
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 6:56 PM ET #49

    Another Update 
    Dallas 41
    Denver 38
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    Another Update 
    Dallas 41
    Denver 38
     
     
    W8LIFTER
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2013 - 6:58 PM ET #50

    2nd Half spread score 
    Dallas 24.5 
    Denver 10
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    2nd Half spread score 
    Dallas 24.5 
    Denver 10
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