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    Dallas at Houston (09/26/2010)

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    wangichu
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 11:37 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by Skubishack:

    How wounded would Jerry Jones be if the Houston Texans march into his Jones-Mahal to play in this seasons Super Bowl in Dallas while his Cowboys wonder why they finished last in the NFC East? Ha,ha,ha. I don't like giving 3 points here but like getting them at EVEN money. This game could play out several ways and I'm confident that either way Houston will find the way to win not only SU but ATS as well.

    Pick = Houston-3(EV)

    My Guesstimate = Houston-34 Dallas-23



    I'm guessing you use bookmaker and I'm with you on philly fanhood, but i just don't think dallas sucks as much as we wish they would this year and while they lose the "easy" games, it only makes sense that they win the tough ones and dissappoint.  I'd say good luck on this bet but i'm against you so good luck on your others, we agree on a few.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skubishack:

    How wounded would Jerry Jones be if the Houston Texans march into his Jones-Mahal to play in this seasons Super Bowl in Dallas while his Cowboys wonder why they finished last in the NFC East? Ha,ha,ha. I don't like giving 3 points here but like getting them at EVEN money. This game could play out several ways and I'm confident that either way Houston will find the way to win not only SU but ATS as well.

    Pick = Houston-3(EV)

    My Guesstimate = Houston-34 Dallas-23



    I'm guessing you use bookmaker and I'm with you on philly fanhood, but i just don't think dallas sucks as much as we wish they would this year and while they lose the "easy" games, it only makes sense that they win the tough ones and dissappoint.  I'd say good luck on this bet but i'm against you so good luck on your others, we agree on a few.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2010 - 11:17 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu:



    and yeah... the public is riding the hot team because they've been watching football, not stroking their tony romo dolls.

    I've been struggling with how to read this line since it came out.  I agree that the line may be trying to induce betting on the hot team.  On the other hand, I would venture to say that with their enormous fan base, there is the potential for a lot of Cowboys backers to jump at the chance of getting ANY points, even more so when it's a FG.  

    I also think that too many people are picking Dallas just because they can't go 0-3, and that they have to start playing well sometime.  If Dallas gets an early lead and can build some confidence, it may turn their season around.  If Houston scores early and then gets a turnover or quick 3 and out, you may see a silver and blue implosion. 

    Just some of my thoughts on the game:

    1.   Houston's secondary is too young to hope for a lockdown game against three big, athletic wr's and a great TE.  On the other  hand, I think Mario is coming into his own and may be able to pick up some of the slack just by pressuring Romo. 

    2.    We all know AJ can't be covered, he will get his regardless.  I think Schaub will take some shots downfield with Jacoby Jones, to set up the crossing routes for Kevin Walter and AJ.

    3.    Houston losing their starting LT hurts, especially for the running game.  Watch for Houston to continue running their play-action bootlegs AWAY from Demarcus Ware. 

    4.    If Buehler misses an early FG, if think a close game will be a nightmare for Dallas and maybe even for Houston too, assuming Dallas starts going for it on 4th down.  Houston has a tendency to play great on 1st and 2nd down, and give up a big play on 3rd or 4th down. 

    5.    Arian Foster will either run for 150+ yards or will be bottled up to less than 50 yards. 

    I am a Texans fan and I am staying away from this game, I don't even like the O/U, too many unknowns with Dallas.  Just for giggles I will predict the Texans 27 Cowboys 23, with Vegas hoping for a lot of money riding the Cowboys and the points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu:



    and yeah... the public is riding the hot team because they've been watching football, not stroking their tony romo dolls.

    I've been struggling with how to read this line since it came out.  I agree that the line may be trying to induce betting on the hot team.  On the other hand, I would venture to say that with their enormous fan base, there is the potential for a lot of Cowboys backers to jump at the chance of getting ANY points, even more so when it's a FG.  

    I also think that too many people are picking Dallas just because they can't go 0-3, and that they have to start playing well sometime.  If Dallas gets an early lead and can build some confidence, it may turn their season around.  If Houston scores early and then gets a turnover or quick 3 and out, you may see a silver and blue implosion. 

    Just some of my thoughts on the game:

    1.   Houston's secondary is too young to hope for a lockdown game against three big, athletic wr's and a great TE.  On the other  hand, I think Mario is coming into his own and may be able to pick up some of the slack just by pressuring Romo. 

    2.    We all know AJ can't be covered, he will get his regardless.  I think Schaub will take some shots downfield with Jacoby Jones, to set up the crossing routes for Kevin Walter and AJ.

    3.    Houston losing their starting LT hurts, especially for the running game.  Watch for Houston to continue running their play-action bootlegs AWAY from Demarcus Ware. 

    4.    If Buehler misses an early FG, if think a close game will be a nightmare for Dallas and maybe even for Houston too, assuming Dallas starts going for it on 4th down.  Houston has a tendency to play great on 1st and 2nd down, and give up a big play on 3rd or 4th down. 

    5.    Arian Foster will either run for 150+ yards or will be bottled up to less than 50 yards. 

    I am a Texans fan and I am staying away from this game, I don't even like the O/U, too many unknowns with Dallas.  Just for giggles I will predict the Texans 27 Cowboys 23, with Vegas hoping for a lot of money riding the Cowboys and the points.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2010 - 2:44 PM ET #28

    texans. -2.5 I'll take it.  Cowboys are a mess.
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    texans. -2.5 I'll take it.  Cowboys are a mess.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2010 - 5:25 PM ET #29

    way to many homers in this thread

     

    come get that money with me and take the Texans they will win by 20. Dallas is over rated every year go silence yaselves hoemrs.

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    way to many homers in this thread

     

    come get that money with me and take the Texans they will win by 20. Dallas is over rated every year go silence yaselves hoemrs.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2010 - 7:01 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu:



    yeah, peyton threw for a paltry 433 yards, only 3 touchdowns no picks on better than 70% passing. 

    You're right, they sure held him in check.  The colts, playing from behind, almost never ran in that game, so the texans clearly knew that manning would be passing and probably could have cheated that.  And yet still, got highly burned by manning who could have won the game if not for a costly turnover and absence of run defense by his teammates.

    Then McNabb throwing to a FAR less talented receiving core than the one the skins marched out there last sunday and did essentially the same friggin thing (426 yds, 1 TD -they went to portis goalline- no picks, 73.6% completions).

    So as the only NFL team to have allowed over 800 yards through two games they are statistcally the worst secondary in the NFL this year.  I know it's early and they probably aren't the worst in the league, but as two top 10 QBs have pointed out, there is clearly a vulnerable weakness in that secondary, so yeah, I'd say they are like butter. 

    Here's some notable inequalities:

    Cowboys receivers > washington's receivers
    Romo's throwing abilities = McNabb's throwing abilities  (roughly)
    Cowboys Defense > Washington's D > Colts D


    Washington may defend the run a little better and colts probably defend the pass about as well, but Dallas's D is more well rounded and while occasionally vulnerable, they don't have any serious holes in their D like the other two teams do, meaning that this is the best Defense Houston has seen.  Not saying they can stop the Texans, but slow them down enough to let the offense get a jump on them.

    Cowboys have been passing a lot more this year so they can exploit the glaring weakness of the Texan and get up early.

    This is a huge game for the cowboy's season while a loss here won't really de-rail the texan's long term plans, so it would be hard not to expect the cowboys to outplay the texans and if you seriously think that vegas would lay only three with the texans while the public prances to punch that soft ticket in an apparently obvious game with one team (texans) LOOKING very good and the other (dallas) losing two and looking worse than they are.

    I think the boys come out strong and run this one wire to wire


    DAL +3

    and for the reference, i'm and eagle fan.  I hate the cowboys, but I might as well make money off them because they're not going to lose forever and it's pretty rare that they're even catching points.

    great post.  i hate the cowgirls but i see them winning this game

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu:



    yeah, peyton threw for a paltry 433 yards, only 3 touchdowns no picks on better than 70% passing. 

    You're right, they sure held him in check.  The colts, playing from behind, almost never ran in that game, so the texans clearly knew that manning would be passing and probably could have cheated that.  And yet still, got highly burned by manning who could have won the game if not for a costly turnover and absence of run defense by his teammates.

    Then McNabb throwing to a FAR less talented receiving core than the one the skins marched out there last sunday and did essentially the same friggin thing (426 yds, 1 TD -they went to portis goalline- no picks, 73.6% completions).

    So as the only NFL team to have allowed over 800 yards through two games they are statistcally the worst secondary in the NFL this year.  I know it's early and they probably aren't the worst in the league, but as two top 10 QBs have pointed out, there is clearly a vulnerable weakness in that secondary, so yeah, I'd say they are like butter. 

    Here's some notable inequalities:

    Cowboys receivers > washington's receivers
    Romo's throwing abilities = McNabb's throwing abilities  (roughly)
    Cowboys Defense > Washington's D > Colts D


    Washington may defend the run a little better and colts probably defend the pass about as well, but Dallas's D is more well rounded and while occasionally vulnerable, they don't have any serious holes in their D like the other two teams do, meaning that this is the best Defense Houston has seen.  Not saying they can stop the Texans, but slow them down enough to let the offense get a jump on them.

    Cowboys have been passing a lot more this year so they can exploit the glaring weakness of the Texan and get up early.

    This is a huge game for the cowboy's season while a loss here won't really de-rail the texan's long term plans, so it would be hard not to expect the cowboys to outplay the texans and if you seriously think that vegas would lay only three with the texans while the public prances to punch that soft ticket in an apparently obvious game with one team (texans) LOOKING very good and the other (dallas) losing two and looking worse than they are.

    I think the boys come out strong and run this one wire to wire


    DAL +3

    and for the reference, i'm and eagle fan.  I hate the cowboys, but I might as well make money off them because they're not going to lose forever and it's pretty rare that they're even catching points.

    great post.  i hate the cowgirls but i see them winning this game

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2010 - 7:16 PM ET #31

    Dallas +3
    Dallas will play better with their backs to the wall not good for Texans this week
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    Dallas +3
    Dallas will play better with their backs to the wall not good for Texans this week
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2010 - 10:20 PM ET #32

    This could have push written all over it.

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    This could have push written all over it.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2010 - 10:28 PM ET #33

    Im thinkin over.

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    Im thinkin over.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2010 - 1:21 AM ET #34

    I'm a philly phan but I gotta like Dallass.

    Don't know why,

    Just a gut.

    Maybe that preseason embarassment.

    Maybe other factors.

    Even though, look at my avitar and you'll know why I got a good feel for texas teams.

    Off topic:

    Hernandez for AL CY YOUNG

                Jiminez for NL

    all about personal achievment

    in my book.

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    I'm a philly phan but I gotta like Dallass.

    Don't know why,

    Just a gut.

    Maybe that preseason embarassment.

    Maybe other factors.

    Even though, look at my avitar and you'll know why I got a good feel for texas teams.

    Off topic:

    Hernandez for AL CY YOUNG

                Jiminez for NL

    all about personal achievment

    in my book.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2010 - 1:42 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by felix58:

    I'm a philly phan but I gotta like Dallass.

    Don't know why,

    Just a gut.

    Maybe that preseason embarassment.

    Maybe other factors.

    Even though, look at my avitar and you'll know why I got a good feel for texas teams.

    Off topic:

    Hernandez for AL CY YOUNG

                Jiminez for NL

    all about personal achievment

    in my book.

         love this place

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    Quote Originally Posted by felix58:

    I'm a philly phan but I gotta like Dallass.

    Don't know why,

    Just a gut.

    Maybe that preseason embarassment.

    Maybe other factors.

    Even though, look at my avitar and you'll know why I got a good feel for texas teams.

    Off topic:

    Hernandez for AL CY YOUNG

                Jiminez for NL

    all about personal achievment

    in my book.

         love this place

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2010 - 1:46 PM ET #36

    HOUSTON -2.5  ALL DAY!!!!

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    HOUSTON -2.5  ALL DAY!!!!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2010 - 2:24 PM ET #37

    Dallas +2.5. One of the few games that stood out to me this week. On paper the Cowboys are one of the top teams in the league. Teams going into their bye usually seem to play harder. Especially playoff caliber teams that are winless. Suprised no one one hear has mentioned anything about the Texans LT being out this weekend. With Ware coming to town this spells bad news.
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    Dallas +2.5. One of the few games that stood out to me this week. On paper the Cowboys are one of the top teams in the league. Teams going into their bye usually seem to play harder. Especially playoff caliber teams that are winless. Suprised no one one hear has mentioned anything about the Texans LT being out this weekend. With Ware coming to town this spells bad news.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2010 - 6:13 PM ET #38

    Houston - 23                                       Dallas - 17

    Texans -3                                under 47

    Dallas is in disarray. Take the team thast has their act together.

    Texans - Under

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    Houston - 23                                       Dallas - 17

    Texans -3                                under 47

    Dallas is in disarray. Take the team thast has their act together.

    Texans - Under

     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2010 - 12:02 AM ET #39

    houston team total over...........
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    houston team total over...........
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2010 - 3:54 AM ET #40

    dallas gets its first win
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    dallas gets its first win
     
    sarava
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2010 - 9:26 AM ET #41

    defintely game of the week fo sho, dallas babay big!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    defintely game of the week fo sho, dallas babay big!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    lovetogamble
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2010 - 10:12 AM ET #42

    COWBOYS +3
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    COWBOYS +3
     
    cgardner33
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2010 - 11:22 AM ET #43

    Great info guys but too close to call the side.  It should be a shoot out.  I'm taking the over. 
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    Great info guys but too close to call the side.  It should be a shoot out.  I'm taking the over. 
     
    WiseGuy702
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2010 - 11:27 AM ET #44

    Cowboys +3

     

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    Cowboys +3

     

     
    Nitro
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2010 - 11:28 AM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu:



    and yeah... the public is riding the hot team because they've been watching football, not stroking their tony romo dolls.

     

    That was fucking hilarious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wangichu:



    and yeah... the public is riding the hot team because they've been watching football, not stroking their tony romo dolls.

     

    That was fucking hilarious!

     
    Nitro
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2010 - 11:33 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    I like Dallas +3 as well....



    no good reason, just a feeling... I can't see this team going 0-3..... too much talent

     

     Well I can..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    I like Dallas +3 as well....



    no good reason, just a feeling... I can't see this team going 0-3..... too much talent

     

     Well I can..

     
    greek04champs
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2010 - 11:36 AM ET #47

    Hi to anyone that doesnt know me.You will get to know me soon enough.Well its good to be back so lets get to the picks, Dallas is in need for a W so if they dont win they will cover the 3pts its a lock so take the+3 and thank me later.After Dallas bye week there will be changes if they go 0-3 so there are people playing for there jobs today in Housten.

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    Hi to anyone that doesnt know me.You will get to know me soon enough.Well its good to be back so lets get to the picks, Dallas is in need for a W so if they dont win they will cover the 3pts its a lock so take the+3 and thank me later.After Dallas bye week there will be changes if they go 0-3 so there are people playing for there jobs today in Housten.

     
    delsgpi220
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2010 - 11:41 AM ET #48

    Just not sure...I'll stay away and just watch Jerry pop those TUMS....
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    Just not sure...I'll stay away and just watch Jerry pop those TUMS....
     
    joedaddy76
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2010 - 11:46 AM ET #49

    let's not forget how the Skins TORCHED that Houston secondary which after studying on paper looks pretty weak in my opinion.  i can see the cowgirls establishing a better running game and Romo throwing for 200 plus yds along with a couple of TD's.  remember:  Texans pulled that victory vs. Skins outta their ass cuzz they were down by 17.  now the public wants to crown them?  i don't get it.  and yes- the Skins torched that secondary with some old ass receivers...

    i hate the cowgirls but i know opportunity when i see it and u dont get too many opportunities to take Dallas as a dog.

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    let's not forget how the Skins TORCHED that Houston secondary which after studying on paper looks pretty weak in my opinion.  i can see the cowgirls establishing a better running game and Romo throwing for 200 plus yds along with a couple of TD's.  remember:  Texans pulled that victory vs. Skins outta their ass cuzz they were down by 17.  now the public wants to crown them?  i don't get it.  and yes- the Skins torched that secondary with some old ass receivers...

    i hate the cowgirls but i know opportunity when i see it and u dont get too many opportunities to take Dallas as a dog.

     
     
    larryv123
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2010 - 11:47 AM ET #50

    hard to choose but will go with dallas with points and over teaser..
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    hard to choose but will go with dallas with points and over teaser..
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