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    Cleveland at Kansas City (12/20/2009)

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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2009 - 8:45 AM ET #1

    Away:  Cleveland [7-6 ATS]
    Home:  Kansas City [5-8 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Arrowhead Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Brady Quinn (1273)
    Rushing: Jamal Lewis (500)
    Receiving: Mohamed Massaquoi (546)

    Kansas City:
    Passing: Matt Cassel (2206)
    Rushing: Jamaal Charles (605)
    Receiving: Dwayne Bowe (466)

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    Away:  Cleveland [7-6 ATS]
    Home:  Kansas City [5-8 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Arrowhead Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Cleveland:
    Passing: Brady Quinn (1273)
    Rushing: Jamal Lewis (500)
    Receiving: Mohamed Massaquoi (546)

    Kansas City:
    Passing: Matt Cassel (2206)
    Rushing: Jamaal Charles (605)
    Receiving: Dwayne Bowe (466)

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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2009 - 2:01 PM ET #2

    Pick of the week Over 37..It's over baby It's over!
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    Pick of the week Over 37..It's over baby It's over!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2009 - 11:10 PM ET #3

    CLEVE
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    CLEVE
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2009 - 11:10 PM ET #4

    KC is the 2nd worse team in the league next to OAKLAND
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    KC is the 2nd worse team in the league next to OAKLAND
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2009 - 9:38 PM ET #5

     Lovin' the Brownies here!
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     Lovin' the Brownies here!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2009 - 10:30 PM ET #6

    Da Browns!

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    Da Browns!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2009 - 2:39 AM ET #7

    CLE +2: 'swagger theory' at work, off their win vs. Steelers last week. Score: Browns 18-Chiefs 12 (2 units).
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    CLE +2: 'swagger theory' at work, off their win vs. Steelers last week. Score: Browns 18-Chiefs 12 (2 units).
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2009 - 11:51 AM ET #8

    I LOVE THE BROWNS....

     

    isn't that crazy to say?

     

    but with an extended practice week I think we will see Cribbs utilized much more in the wildcat...

    also, they new running back Jennings looked very tough against the Steelers...

    say what you want about the Steelers collapse but they are still great against the run....

     

    KC can't tackle anybody, so I think it will be a long game for the Cheifs...

     

    GL TO ALL

     

    also love the OVER

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    I LOVE THE BROWNS....

     

    isn't that crazy to say?

     

    but with an extended practice week I think we will see Cribbs utilized much more in the wildcat...

    also, they new running back Jennings looked very tough against the Steelers...

    say what you want about the Steelers collapse but they are still great against the run....

     

    KC can't tackle anybody, so I think it will be a long game for the Cheifs...

     

    GL TO ALL

     

    also love the OVER

     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2009 - 3:28 PM ET #9

    I'll take the home dogs here and give the point.
    K.C. is won of the hardest stadiums to play in no matter how bad the chiefs are, and you can't really base the performance by Clevland off the steelers game anyone could beat the steelers right now!!!  Pitts game this week is a trap!  G.B. is gonna light them up G.B. has the best December record starting as of 1990 - present.  Getting back to K.C. game Matt Cassell is gonna pick apart this Clevland D.
      Give the point K.C. -1 sit back and collect.
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    I'll take the home dogs here and give the point.
    K.C. is won of the hardest stadiums to play in no matter how bad the chiefs are, and you can't really base the performance by Clevland off the steelers game anyone could beat the steelers right now!!!  Pitts game this week is a trap!  G.B. is gonna light them up G.B. has the best December record starting as of 1990 - present.  Getting back to K.C. game Matt Cassell is gonna pick apart this Clevland D.
      Give the point K.C. -1 sit back and collect.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2009 - 4:37 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Ber:

    I'll take the home dogs here and give the point.
    K.C. is won of the hardest stadiums to play in no matter how bad the chiefs are, and you can't really base the performance by Clevland off the steelers game anyone could beat the steelers right now!!!  Pitts game this week is a trap!  G.B. is gonna light them up G.B. has the best December record starting as of 1990 - present.  Getting back to K.C. game Matt Cassell is gonna pick apart this Clevland D.
      Give the point K.C. -1 sit back and collect.

    I disagree, respectfully of course.... did you see what the Cleveland D-line did to Big Ben and Pitt?

    Pitt is playing horrible football right now.... but their defense is coming around, and the Cheifs O-line is comparable to the Pitts O-line... both are awful....

    and KC cannot tackle anybody.... jennings and Cribbs should have a good day...

     

    Good Luck!   (well actually not if your betting against me haha)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ber:

    I'll take the home dogs here and give the point.
    K.C. is won of the hardest stadiums to play in no matter how bad the chiefs are, and you can't really base the performance by Clevland off the steelers game anyone could beat the steelers right now!!!  Pitts game this week is a trap!  G.B. is gonna light them up G.B. has the best December record starting as of 1990 - present.  Getting back to K.C. game Matt Cassell is gonna pick apart this Clevland D.
      Give the point K.C. -1 sit back and collect.

    I disagree, respectfully of course.... did you see what the Cleveland D-line did to Big Ben and Pitt?

    Pitt is playing horrible football right now.... but their defense is coming around, and the Cheifs O-line is comparable to the Pitts O-line... both are awful....

    and KC cannot tackle anybody.... jennings and Cribbs should have a good day...

     

    Good Luck!   (well actually not if your betting against me haha)

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2009 - 3:16 PM ET #11

    Doesn't the good lord have a sense of humor ? A total of 5 wins between the two teams........and 21 losses ! Does anyone really care about this game ? Having said that, the Browns seem to have found something ( not sure what ), that appears to be working for them. Yes KC is a tough place to play, but what the hell, I'm taking the Browns here..............but not for much. Good luck to all of us laying anything down here. Two teams with a combined 5-21 record, anything can happen and usually does.
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    Doesn't the good lord have a sense of humor ? A total of 5 wins between the two teams........and 21 losses ! Does anyone really care about this game ? Having said that, the Browns seem to have found something ( not sure what ), that appears to be working for them. Yes KC is a tough place to play, but what the hell, I'm taking the Browns here..............but not for much. Good luck to all of us laying anything down here. Two teams with a combined 5-21 record, anything can happen and usually does.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2009 - 11:43 PM ET #12

    CHIEFS

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    CHIEFS

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2009 - 12:19 AM ET #13

    DOGPOUND equals $$$$ tomorrow
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    DOGPOUND equals $$$$ tomorrow
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2009 - 12:43 AM ET #14

    BROWNIES BABY, RIGHT OUT THE OVER, THE ONLY WAY TO GET THEM .......  TOTAL STAYES UNDER !! 
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    BROWNIES BABY, RIGHT OUT THE OVER, THE ONLY WAY TO GET THEM .......  TOTAL STAYES UNDER !! 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2009 - 1:22 AM ET #15

    Da Dog pound and the OVER !!!
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    Da Dog pound and the OVER !!!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2009 - 1:40 AM ET #16

    GO Chiefs i hope they double there win from last year I hope they give the chiefs fans something to cheer for.  I hope they get better lets go chiefs lets see some improvement. to go into next season . 4-10 lets go I will drink to that

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    GO Chiefs i hope they double there win from last year I hope they give the chiefs fans something to cheer for.  I hope they get better lets go chiefs lets see some improvement. to go into next season . 4-10 lets go I will drink to that

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2009 - 6:13 AM ET #17

    KC's defence has been amazing vs the bottom tier opponents this year.  Buf, Oakland and Wash.  Cle D showed up big last week, and would be a perfect spot for a letdown game, IF this where college football.  It's still two inconsistent shit teams facing off, flip a coin and call yourself a good capper if it wins :)

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    KC's defence has been amazing vs the bottom tier opponents this year.  Buf, Oakland and Wash.  Cle D showed up big last week, and would be a perfect spot for a letdown game, IF this where college football.  It's still two inconsistent shit teams facing off, flip a coin and call yourself a good capper if it wins :)

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2009 - 8:42 AM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by ewillie169:

    CLE +2: 'swagger theory' at work, off their win vs. Steelers last week. Score: Browns 18-Chiefs 12 (2 units).
    KC last win was against Pitt. They had a two game winning steak after that game. Then San Diego knocked the shit out of them. So I think the swagger theory is not a factor. Cleveland swagger. Give me a break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ewillie169:

    CLE +2: 'swagger theory' at work, off their win vs. Steelers last week. Score: Browns 18-Chiefs 12 (2 units).
    KC last win was against Pitt. They had a two game winning steak after that game. Then San Diego knocked the shit out of them. So I think the swagger theory is not a factor. Cleveland swagger. Give me a break.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2009 - 10:34 AM ET #19

    Nobody is really talking about the real money makere here..........Cleveland has less TD's this year than I have fingers on my hand and KC looks to have packed it in already........leave the outcome alone on this battle of cellar dwellers........pound on the under 37!!!!
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    Nobody is really talking about the real money makere here..........Cleveland has less TD's this year than I have fingers on my hand and KC looks to have packed it in already........leave the outcome alone on this battle of cellar dwellers........pound on the under 37!!!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

    Nobody is really talking about the real money makere here..........Cleveland has less TD's this year than I have fingers on my hand and KC looks to have packed it in already........leave the outcome alone on this battle of cellar dwellers........pound on the under 37!!!!

    MAKES GOOD SENSE TO ME .........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

    Nobody is really talking about the real money makere here..........Cleveland has less TD's this year than I have fingers on my hand and KC looks to have packed it in already........leave the outcome alone on this battle of cellar dwellers........pound on the under 37!!!!

    MAKES GOOD SENSE TO ME .........

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2009 - 11:49 AM ET #21

    KC -1 EA$Y
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    KC -1 EA$Y
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2009 - 11:53 AM ET #22

    Under 7 points first quarter. Two offensively challenged teams.
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    Under 7 points first quarter. Two offensively challenged teams.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    I LOVE THE BROWNS....

     

    isn't that crazy to say?

     

    but with an extended practice week I think we will see Cribbs utilized much more in the wildcat...

    also, they new running back Jennings looked very tough against the Steelers...

    say what you want about the Steelers collapse but they are still great against the run....

     

    KC can't tackle anybody, so I think it will be a long game for the Cheifs...

     

    GL TO ALL

     

    also love the OVER

    Yes, I would have to concur (LOVE THE BROWNS) , not really a browns backer, although I live 15 minutes from Browns stadium,  never attended a game. I see a win for the lowly Browns today in KC. no analysis....just a gut feeling.

    BROWNS on the ML

    .....and how 'bout them Boycows?   wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...........

    guess we won't hear from what's his name........PICKYERNOSEBOY808 for a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    I LOVE THE BROWNS....

     

    isn't that crazy to say?

     

    but with an extended practice week I think we will see Cribbs utilized much more in the wildcat...

    also, they new running back Jennings looked very tough against the Steelers...

    say what you want about the Steelers collapse but they are still great against the run....

     

    KC can't tackle anybody, so I think it will be a long game for the Cheifs...

     

    GL TO ALL

     

    also love the OVER

    Yes, I would have to concur (LOVE THE BROWNS) , not really a browns backer, although I live 15 minutes from Browns stadium,  never attended a game. I see a win for the lowly Browns today in KC. no analysis....just a gut feeling.

    BROWNS on the ML

    .....and how 'bout them Boycows?   wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...........

    guess we won't hear from what's his name........PICKYERNOSEBOY808 for a while

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2009 - 10:27 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by tigers56:

    KC last win was against Pitt. They had a two game winning steak after that game. Then San Diego knocked the shit out of them. So I think the swagger theory is not a factor. Cleveland swagger. Give me a break.

    Haven't you heard of the 'swagger theory'?  A sucky team beats a good team and then wins the next game.. Your example with KC is another example... after the 2nd or 3rd game, they revert back to their losing ways... i'm just sayin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigers56:

    KC last win was against Pitt. They had a two game winning steak after that game. Then San Diego knocked the shit out of them. So I think the swagger theory is not a factor. Cleveland swagger. Give me a break.

    Haven't you heard of the 'swagger theory'?  A sucky team beats a good team and then wins the next game.. Your example with KC is another example... after the 2nd or 3rd game, they revert back to their losing ways... i'm just sayin...

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