You want an answer for that, yeah i think its okay for them to compare walker to hitler or any other friggin dictator, because this guy walker is trying to strip people of their rights and beat them down, taking away things they have worked for all their lives. This Governor for some reason thinks hes God, and can do whatever he wants for his corporate buddies.
Really start directing your anger towards the corporate person in our country and have done this to all the states and stop attacking the average guy just trying to bring home a paycheck for his family.
What is a RIGHT as you understand it.
IMO, anything that requires another to do something for you is NOT a right.
By your reasoning , you want to strip a corporate"person" of his right to be greedy.
Do you see the contradiction in your logic. You possess the same desire to enslave and control others but from a socialistic mindset rather than a capitalist mindset.
Your support of outrageous and exaggerated signs because you are emotionally upset at public service union busting and who may or may not be behind it is disturbing and NO different in quality than some of the odd tea party signs comparing obama to hitler. by your logic the hate rhetoric from the extreme TP fringes has to be just fine.
You probably need a little fluoxetine dumped in your daily coffee.
You want an answer for that, yeah i think its okay for them to compare walker to hitler or any other friggin dictator, because this guy walker is trying to strip people of their rights and beat them down, taking away things they have worked for all their lives. This Governor for some reason thinks hes God, and can do whatever he wants for his corporate buddies.
Really start directing your anger towards the corporate person in our country and have done this to all the states and stop attacking the average guy just trying to bring home a paycheck for his family.
What is a RIGHT as you understand it.
IMO, anything that requires another to do something for you is NOT a right.
By your reasoning , you want to strip a corporate"person" of his right to be greedy.
Do you see the contradiction in your logic. You possess the same desire to enslave and control others but from a socialistic mindset rather than a capitalist mindset.
Your support of outrageous and exaggerated signs because you are emotionally upset at public service union busting and who may or may not be behind it is disturbing and NO different in quality than some of the odd tea party signs comparing obama to hitler. by your logic the hate rhetoric from the extreme TP fringes has to be just fine.
You probably need a little fluoxetine dumped in your daily coffee.
A CEO, union member and tea party activist all sit at a table with a dozen cookies. The CEO takes 11 cookies, and then tells the tea party activist that the union member is trying to take a piece of their cookie!
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This a lesson in cookie economics
A CEO, union member and tea party activist all sit at a table with a dozen cookies. The CEO takes 11 cookies, and then tells the tea party activist that the union member is trying to take a piece of their cookie!
A CEO, union member and tea party activist all sit at a table with a dozen cookies. The CEO takes 11 cookies, and then tells the tea party activist that the union member is trying to take a piece of their cookie!
Good analogy.
Fox News will be on your ass in 2 minutes.
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Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
This a lesson in cookie economics
A CEO, union member and tea party activist all sit at a table with a dozen cookies. The CEO takes 11 cookies, and then tells the tea party activist that the union member is trying to take a piece of their cookie!
You want an answer for that, yeah i think its okay for them to compare walker to hitler or any other friggin dictator, because this guy walker is trying to strip people of their rights and beat them down, taking away things they have worked for all their lives. This Governor for some reason thinks hes God, and can do whatever he wants for his corporate buddies.
Really start directing your anger towards the corporate person in our country and have done this to all the states and stop attacking the average guy just trying to bring home a paycheck for his family.
what have they done to the states?
avg joes dont make 100k all in with state senators in their pockets
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
You want an answer for that, yeah i think its okay for them to compare walker to hitler or any other friggin dictator, because this guy walker is trying to strip people of their rights and beat them down, taking away things they have worked for all their lives. This Governor for some reason thinks hes God, and can do whatever he wants for his corporate buddies.
Really start directing your anger towards the corporate person in our country and have done this to all the states and stop attacking the average guy just trying to bring home a paycheck for his family.
what have they done to the states?
avg joes dont make 100k all in with state senators in their pockets
avg joes dont make 100k all in with state senators in their pockets
Sollozzo: Bene, Don Corleone. I need a man who has powerful friends. I need a million dollars in cash. I need, Don Corleone, all of those politicians that you carry around in your pocket, like so many nickels and dimes.
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Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:
what have they done to the states?
avg joes dont make 100k all in with state senators in their pockets
Sollozzo: Bene, Don Corleone. I need a man who has powerful friends. I need a million dollars in cash. I need, Don Corleone, all of those politicians that you carry around in your pocket, like so many nickels and dimes.
You want an answer for that, yeah i think its okay for them to compare walker to hitler or any other friggin dictator, because this guy walker is trying to strip people of their rights and beat them down, taking away things they have worked for all their lives. This Governor for some reason thinks hes God, and can do whatever he wants for his corporate buddies.
Really start directing your anger towards the corporate person in our country and have done this to all the states and stop attacking the average guy just trying to bring home a paycheck for his family.
thats fine if you believe that, but dont you think its just a tad hypocritical of you to say the right needs to tone done the vitriol, but its ok if the left does it? thats been my entire point, something that could have been solved in 2 posts, but you just had to keep rambling on and couldnt just answer a simple yes or no question.
and wouldnt a more apt comparison be, something these union members worked for some of their adulthood, instead of their entire lives? at what age can many of these union guys retire at full pay?
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
You want an answer for that, yeah i think its okay for them to compare walker to hitler or any other friggin dictator, because this guy walker is trying to strip people of their rights and beat them down, taking away things they have worked for all their lives. This Governor for some reason thinks hes God, and can do whatever he wants for his corporate buddies.
Really start directing your anger towards the corporate person in our country and have done this to all the states and stop attacking the average guy just trying to bring home a paycheck for his family.
thats fine if you believe that, but dont you think its just a tad hypocritical of you to say the right needs to tone done the vitriol, but its ok if the left does it? thats been my entire point, something that could have been solved in 2 posts, but you just had to keep rambling on and couldnt just answer a simple yes or no question.
and wouldnt a more apt comparison be, something these union members worked for some of their adulthood, instead of their entire lives? at what age can many of these union guys retire at full pay?
A CEO, union member and tea party activist all sit at a table with a dozen cookies. The CEO takes 11 cookies, and then tells the tea party activist that the union member is trying to take a piece of their cookie!
Good analogy.
Thats a good analogy for the galactically ignorant. But you serve up a bright shining example of how retarded we have become as a populace...
I know CD serves it up daily, but he doesn't count as his mouth breathing just overwhelms anything that may escape and make it onto this forum.
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Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
This a lesson in cookie economics
A CEO, union member and tea party activist all sit at a table with a dozen cookies. The CEO takes 11 cookies, and then tells the tea party activist that the union member is trying to take a piece of their cookie!
Good analogy.
Thats a good analogy for the galactically ignorant. But you serve up a bright shining example of how retarded we have become as a populace...
I know CD serves it up daily, but he doesn't count as his mouth breathing just overwhelms anything that may escape and make it onto this forum.
Thats a good analogy for the galactically ignorant. But you serve up a bright shining example of how retarded we have become as a populace...
I know CD serves it up daily, but he doesn't count as his mouth breathing just overwhelms anything that may escape and make it onto this forum.
For youmy friend, I will answer the question of the 12 cookies..
It goes like this...The CEO used GOP Con accounting tricks an decided to pay himself 12 cookies and wrote the outstanding cookie off as a "business loss" so the government couldn't collect crumbs while STILL claiming the write-off. (And, incidentally, the CEO put his cookies in an off-shore account so that he didn't have to pay taxes on that, either....!
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Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:
Good analogy.
Thats a good analogy for the galactically ignorant. But you serve up a bright shining example of how retarded we have become as a populace...
I know CD serves it up daily, but he doesn't count as his mouth breathing just overwhelms anything that may escape and make it onto this forum.
For youmy friend, I will answer the question of the 12 cookies..
It goes like this...The CEO used GOP Con accounting tricks an decided to pay himself 12 cookies and wrote the outstanding cookie off as a "business loss" so the government couldn't collect crumbs while STILL claiming the write-off. (And, incidentally, the CEO put his cookies in an off-shore account so that he didn't have to pay taxes on that, either....!
For youmy friend, I will answer the question of the 12 cookies..
It goes like this...The CEO used GOP Con accounting tricks an decided to pay himself 12 cookies and wrote the outstanding cookie off as a "business loss" so the government couldn't collect crumbs while STILL claiming the write-off. (And, incidentally, the CEO put his cookies in an off-shore account so that he didn't have to pay taxes on that, either....!
how about this? the CEO created the recipe, grew the ingredients, took the risk, pays the taxes, needs to grease the local pols, etc...he takes as many cookies as he wants
if he takes all 12, then we wont be able to expand his business. if he takes 11 of 12, he will get labor worth 1 cookie, if he takes 10 of 12
joe 6 pack has been taught that he has a right to at least 4-5 of the cookies as well as revenue sharing of the growing of the cocoa bean and harvesting of the wheat
the reality is, J6P has a right to nothing and will only be hired if there's a demand for his labor
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Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
For youmy friend, I will answer the question of the 12 cookies..
It goes like this...The CEO used GOP Con accounting tricks an decided to pay himself 12 cookies and wrote the outstanding cookie off as a "business loss" so the government couldn't collect crumbs while STILL claiming the write-off. (And, incidentally, the CEO put his cookies in an off-shore account so that he didn't have to pay taxes on that, either....!
how about this? the CEO created the recipe, grew the ingredients, took the risk, pays the taxes, needs to grease the local pols, etc...he takes as many cookies as he wants
if he takes all 12, then we wont be able to expand his business. if he takes 11 of 12, he will get labor worth 1 cookie, if he takes 10 of 12
joe 6 pack has been taught that he has a right to at least 4-5 of the cookies as well as revenue sharing of the growing of the cocoa bean and harvesting of the wheat
the reality is, J6P has a right to nothing and will only be hired if there's a demand for his labor
how about this? the CEO created the recipe, grew the ingredients, took the risk, pays the taxes, needs to grease the local pols, etc...he takes as many cookies as he wants
if he takes all 12, then we wont be able to expand his business. if he takes 11 of 12, he will get labor worth 1 cookie, if he takes 10 of 12
joe 6 pack has been taught that he has a right to at least 4-5 of the cookies as well as revenue sharing of the growing of the cocoa bean and harvesting of the wheat
the reality is, J6P has a right to nothing and will only be hired if there's a demand for his labor
we should confiscate his cookies and give them to everybody who wants one
and when he moves his cookie factory overseas we can blame that greedy cookie monster for destroying america
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Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:
how about this? the CEO created the recipe, grew the ingredients, took the risk, pays the taxes, needs to grease the local pols, etc...he takes as many cookies as he wants
if he takes all 12, then we wont be able to expand his business. if he takes 11 of 12, he will get labor worth 1 cookie, if he takes 10 of 12
joe 6 pack has been taught that he has a right to at least 4-5 of the cookies as well as revenue sharing of the growing of the cocoa bean and harvesting of the wheat
the reality is, J6P has a right to nothing and will only be hired if there's a demand for his labor
we should confiscate his cookies and give them to everybody who wants one
and when he moves his cookie factory overseas we can blame that greedy cookie monster for destroying america
oh and another thing koch brothers are complete dirtbags, who would love for everybody to work for them for 5 bucks an hour if they could get away with it.
I hope they hold up more vulgar signs directed at those guys, including rot in hell
And lets hope they can abolish all enviormental laws so that our children and grandchildren can enjoy the great outdoors.
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
oh and another thing koch brothers are complete dirtbags, who would love for everybody to work for them for 5 bucks an hour if they could get away with it.
I hope they hold up more vulgar signs directed at those guys, including rot in hell
And lets hope they can abolish all enviormental laws so that our children and grandchildren can enjoy the great outdoors.
how about this? the CEO created the recipe, grew the ingredients, took the risk, pays the taxes, needs to grease the local pols, etc...he takes as many cookies as he wants
if he takes all 12, then we wont be able to expand his business. if he takes 11 of 12, he will get labor worth 1 cookie, if he takes 10 of 12
joe 6 pack has been taught that he has a right to at least 4-5 of the cookies as well as revenue sharing of the growing of the cocoa bean and harvesting of the wheat
the reality is, J6P has a right to nothing and will only be hired if there's a demand for his labor
In your model your left out the fact that the CEO sure as heck gets his cookies if the company tanks...its called a "golden cookie-sheet" which he most certainly negotiated when he was hired. So, when a company produces more and better products its not the worker doing it, its the CEO? Hm
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Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:
how about this? the CEO created the recipe, grew the ingredients, took the risk, pays the taxes, needs to grease the local pols, etc...he takes as many cookies as he wants
if he takes all 12, then we wont be able to expand his business. if he takes 11 of 12, he will get labor worth 1 cookie, if he takes 10 of 12
joe 6 pack has been taught that he has a right to at least 4-5 of the cookies as well as revenue sharing of the growing of the cocoa bean and harvesting of the wheat
the reality is, J6P has a right to nothing and will only be hired if there's a demand for his labor
In your model your left out the fact that the CEO sure as heck gets his cookies if the company tanks...its called a "golden cookie-sheet" which he most certainly negotiated when he was hired. So, when a company produces more and better products its not the worker doing it, its the CEO? Hm
Thats a good analogy for the galactically ignorant. But you serve up a bright shining example of how retarded we have become as a populace...
I know CD serves it up daily, but he doesn't count as his mouth breathing just overwhelms anything that may escape and make it onto this forum.
"Ignorant" and "Retarded" are good put downs for people who aren't in agreement with your train of thought.
Perhaps, for the slower readers of Covers Political Forum, you can dumb down or more simply explain how the corporate vs. labor analogy is ignorant and retarded?
I have to admit, I'm feeling a bit ignorant trying to understand your argument.
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Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:
Good analogy.
Thats a good analogy for the galactically ignorant. But you serve up a bright shining example of how retarded we have become as a populace...
I know CD serves it up daily, but he doesn't count as his mouth breathing just overwhelms anything that may escape and make it onto this forum.
"Ignorant" and "Retarded" are good put downs for people who aren't in agreement with your train of thought.
Perhaps, for the slower readers of Covers Political Forum, you can dumb down or more simply explain how the corporate vs. labor analogy is ignorant and retarded?
I have to admit, I'm feeling a bit ignorant trying to understand your argument.
try reading "the road to serfdom" if the logic of von hayek or milton friedman does not work for you then it is a hopeless conversation
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. Milton Friedman
Is it really true that political self-interest is nobler somehow than economic self-interest? Milton Friedman
So that the record of history is absolutely crystal clear. That there is no alternative way, so far discovered, of improving the lot of the ordinary people that can hold a candle to the productive activities that are unleashed by a free enterprise system. Milton Friedman
The world runs on individuals pursuing their self interests. The great achievements of civilization have not come from government bureaus. Einstein didn't construct his theory under order from a, from a bureaucrat. Henry Ford didn't revolutionize the automobile industry that way. Milton Friedman
Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.
So that the record of history is absolutely crystal clear. That there is no alternative way, so far discovered, of improving the lot of the ordinary people that can hold a candle to the productive activities that are unleashed by a free enterprise system. Milton Friedman
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try reading "the road to serfdom" if the logic of von hayek or milton friedman does not work for you then it is a hopeless conversation
If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand. Milton Friedman
Is it really true that political self-interest is nobler somehow than economic self-interest? Milton Friedman
So that the record of history is absolutely crystal clear. That there is no alternative way, so far discovered, of improving the lot of the ordinary people that can hold a candle to the productive activities that are unleashed by a free enterprise system. Milton Friedman
The world runs on individuals pursuing their self interests. The great achievements of civilization have not come from government bureaus. Einstein didn't construct his theory under order from a, from a bureaucrat. Henry Ford didn't revolutionize the automobile industry that way. Milton Friedman
Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.
So that the record of history is absolutely crystal clear. That there is no alternative way, so far discovered, of improving the lot of the ordinary people that can hold a candle to the productive activities that are unleashed by a free enterprise system. Milton Friedman
So
that the record of history is absolutely crystal clear. That there is
no alternative way, so far discovered, of improving the lot of the
ordinary people that can hold a candle to the productive activities that
are unleashed by a free enterprise system. Milton Friedman
So
that the record of history is absolutely crystal clear. That there is
no alternative way, so far discovered, of improving the lot of the
ordinary people that can hold a candle to the productive activities that
are unleashed by a free enterprise system. Milton Friedman
If someone buys the ingredients to make the cookie then makes it in an oven that they bought, why do they owe anyone any cookies?
What makes anyone entitled to said cookies?
Starwink, you and michael moore are of the idea that jobs and cash are "public resources" that everyone has a right to. I completely disagree with this assessment. I think it is childish and naive to believe that you are entitled to anything. You have to go out and get what you want.
Since you are an adherent to this philosiphy of wealth being a public good, please send me a check for $1,000.
I guarantee that I am poorer than you and have a right to any wealth that you have accumulated since it is a public resource. Please PM me for my address.
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The cookie analogy is awful.
If someone buys the ingredients to make the cookie then makes it in an oven that they bought, why do they owe anyone any cookies?
What makes anyone entitled to said cookies?
Starwink, you and michael moore are of the idea that jobs and cash are "public resources" that everyone has a right to. I completely disagree with this assessment. I think it is childish and naive to believe that you are entitled to anything. You have to go out and get what you want.
Since you are an adherent to this philosiphy of wealth being a public good, please send me a check for $1,000.
I guarantee that I am poorer than you and have a right to any wealth that you have accumulated since it is a public resource. Please PM me for my address.
you are just so much smarter than friedman. some things just "feel" right so the must be.
fix the government and corporations wont get away with their malfeasance. do like china and kill every politician that they catch getting a bribe of significance. maybe, God forbid, term limits
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you are just so much smarter than friedman. some things just "feel" right so the must be.
fix the government and corporations wont get away with their malfeasance. do like china and kill every politician that they catch getting a bribe of significance. maybe, God forbid, term limits
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