If democrats regain house majority, they would probably work on improving affordability and accountability in broad agenda. Jobs, housing, raising minimum wage, supporting healhcare insurance, restraining imperialism and big business. Limiting Trump illegal actions and investigating government corruption.
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If democrats regain house majority, they would probably work on improving affordability and accountability in broad agenda. Jobs, housing, raising minimum wage, supporting healhcare insurance, restraining imperialism and big business. Limiting Trump illegal actions and investigating government corruption.
Right, because the Democrats are great and Republicans are horrible...yada yada yada, your party isn't as great as you think it is and it will also disappoint American's but you will side with them lock, stock and barrel just because you think changing a party line will make a difference...it will not make a difference....politicians are not looking out for you...hate to break it to you, but you have had Democrats in place and they also did nothing...hate Republicans all you want, but neither party is special nor better than the other....wake up and realize that the parties are the problem...politicians are the problem...it is being exploited right now as to how corrupt they all are and it's just getting started....and will anyone go to jail...so far it's not looking like it, but we shall see...no reason to act like your party is better than the other because they simply are not...
And raising minimum wage doesn't help anything, take it from me, I live in California where it is one of the highest minimum wages in the country and all it does is raise the prices of everything else....$16.90 per hour is our state minimum wage but houses in my area are just a tad under one million dollar in an agriculture area where homes used to be $300-400 thousand just 10 years ago....and we are talking homes built back in the 60's and 70's that are maybe 1500 square feet......and our gas is over $6 per gallon...raising minimum wage is not the answer unless you price cap everything else, but that will not happen because paying employees more requires raising prices everywhere else...a high minimum wage looks and sounds nice, but believe me it doesn't pan out like you think it would and in California minimum wage is progressively increased each year but so is everything else so advantage gained...
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Right, because the Democrats are great and Republicans are horrible...yada yada yada, your party isn't as great as you think it is and it will also disappoint American's but you will side with them lock, stock and barrel just because you think changing a party line will make a difference...it will not make a difference....politicians are not looking out for you...hate to break it to you, but you have had Democrats in place and they also did nothing...hate Republicans all you want, but neither party is special nor better than the other....wake up and realize that the parties are the problem...politicians are the problem...it is being exploited right now as to how corrupt they all are and it's just getting started....and will anyone go to jail...so far it's not looking like it, but we shall see...no reason to act like your party is better than the other because they simply are not...
And raising minimum wage doesn't help anything, take it from me, I live in California where it is one of the highest minimum wages in the country and all it does is raise the prices of everything else....$16.90 per hour is our state minimum wage but houses in my area are just a tad under one million dollar in an agriculture area where homes used to be $300-400 thousand just 10 years ago....and we are talking homes built back in the 60's and 70's that are maybe 1500 square feet......and our gas is over $6 per gallon...raising minimum wage is not the answer unless you price cap everything else, but that will not happen because paying employees more requires raising prices everywhere else...a high minimum wage looks and sounds nice, but believe me it doesn't pan out like you think it would and in California minimum wage is progressively increased each year but so is everything else so advantage gained...
The great thing about being a consumer is if you dislike something you are not forced to pay for it. In this case if you are mad about min wage then just do not spend on fast food or services that utilize min wage workers. It is odd that anyone would complain about min wage, that is not a living wage and your stats prove it. A worker making min wage is not living the high life especially in Calif and since Trump has intentionally targeted your cheap labor pool how are things going to get done when the willing labor base is shrinking and it is not a livable wage?'
If you are mad at anything the last thing it should be is min wage or food stamps, the average taxpayer spends 10x more on corporate subsidies than they do on food stamps yet the TNC is fire raged and torching the lowest earners and those with the least. If you want lower costs then go live in a region where those costs exist. My state is one of the most unaffordable now and if that bothered me as it does you I could move to the Midwest and choke down the negatives of living there.
Calif is one of the highest demand states in the country for a reason and with that comes a higher cost of living. Hawaii is worse for the same reason, if you are angry at min wage then eat at home and make your own food if you are mad at house prices then stop living in a high demand zone and move somewhere like your guy JD Vances state, you can buy a house all day long under 100k there and live like a king in Cleveland.
Its all a balance of choice and what matters most so figure that out and act accordingly. I would say that min wage should be higher as those people are performing some of the WORST service jobs in our economy and should make a wage that allows them the opportunity to do more than survive. The argument that min wage jobs are not long term is a fallback joke, go into any Walmart or Target and tell me what the worker demographic is, there are a TON of people who rely on service jobs and with AI coming to chop away the middle class that will only get worse.
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@ABooksNightmare
The great thing about being a consumer is if you dislike something you are not forced to pay for it. In this case if you are mad about min wage then just do not spend on fast food or services that utilize min wage workers. It is odd that anyone would complain about min wage, that is not a living wage and your stats prove it. A worker making min wage is not living the high life especially in Calif and since Trump has intentionally targeted your cheap labor pool how are things going to get done when the willing labor base is shrinking and it is not a livable wage?'
If you are mad at anything the last thing it should be is min wage or food stamps, the average taxpayer spends 10x more on corporate subsidies than they do on food stamps yet the TNC is fire raged and torching the lowest earners and those with the least. If you want lower costs then go live in a region where those costs exist. My state is one of the most unaffordable now and if that bothered me as it does you I could move to the Midwest and choke down the negatives of living there.
Calif is one of the highest demand states in the country for a reason and with that comes a higher cost of living. Hawaii is worse for the same reason, if you are angry at min wage then eat at home and make your own food if you are mad at house prices then stop living in a high demand zone and move somewhere like your guy JD Vances state, you can buy a house all day long under 100k there and live like a king in Cleveland.
Its all a balance of choice and what matters most so figure that out and act accordingly. I would say that min wage should be higher as those people are performing some of the WORST service jobs in our economy and should make a wage that allows them the opportunity to do more than survive. The argument that min wage jobs are not long term is a fallback joke, go into any Walmart or Target and tell me what the worker demographic is, there are a TON of people who rely on service jobs and with AI coming to chop away the middle class that will only get worse.
Odd how you got that I was angry at minimum wage rather than observing that I was just stating facts from a state where I live, in which is one of the highest in the country...I was responding to thirdperson's post about how he thinks the Democrats will focus on minimum wage, which I a stating makes little to no difference because the price points increase relatively...
But nice that you completely miss the point I made and also try to take stabs at me that somehow JD Vance is my guy or that I support Trump in some way
I don't support either but you are not biased right
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Odd how you got that I was angry at minimum wage rather than observing that I was just stating facts from a state where I live, in which is one of the highest in the country...I was responding to thirdperson's post about how he thinks the Democrats will focus on minimum wage, which I a stating makes little to no difference because the price points increase relatively...
But nice that you completely miss the point I made and also try to take stabs at me that somehow JD Vance is my guy or that I support Trump in some way
I don't support either but you are not biased right
The problem isn’t in the minimum wage! The problem is greed! And it starts at the top of the food chain! As most of us know Greed is one of the Trump Seven Deadly Sins. But greed is also an ADDICTION. Once you are addicted you can’t help but manipulate for more and more. Just like drug addicts and alcoholics, they can’t stop, no matter who they hurt. They even manipulate our political system and media to further feed their addiction. At least, drug addicts get so much negative feedback from family, friends and employers, their life becomes so difficult that they hit bottom and wake up. Greed addicts instead get praised for their addiction, and they are insulated from the people in society they hurt, so they don’t get the feedback they need. Right now, our country is being run by addicts…..The evaporation of the middle class and it’s quality of life played huge role in the creation of the billionaires club!
Just look at the One Big Beautiful Bill Act", is a cruel exercise in slashing benefits for the poor, the elderly, and the sick to free up fiscal space for yet more tax cuts for the rich and tax-avoidance strategies have deprived governments of tax revenue that could have been used for public infrastructure and services.
There is a interesting read on this dilemma in the 2026 report "Resisting the Rule of the Rich" highlights how billionaires leverage resources to influence media, politicians, and justice systems, which some view as a subversion of democracy in favor of oligarchy.
The problem isn’t in the minimum wage! The problem is greed! And it starts at the top of the food chain! As most of us know Greed is one of the Trump Seven Deadly Sins. But greed is also an ADDICTION. Once you are addicted you can’t help but manipulate for more and more. Just like drug addicts and alcoholics, they can’t stop, no matter who they hurt. They even manipulate our political system and media to further feed their addiction. At least, drug addicts get so much negative feedback from family, friends and employers, their life becomes so difficult that they hit bottom and wake up. Greed addicts instead get praised for their addiction, and they are insulated from the people in society they hurt, so they don’t get the feedback they need. Right now, our country is being run by addicts…..The evaporation of the middle class and it’s quality of life played huge role in the creation of the billionaires club!
Just look at the One Big Beautiful Bill Act", is a cruel exercise in slashing benefits for the poor, the elderly, and the sick to free up fiscal space for yet more tax cuts for the rich and tax-avoidance strategies have deprived governments of tax revenue that could have been used for public infrastructure and services.
There is a interesting read on this dilemma in the 2026 report "Resisting the Rule of the Rich" highlights how billionaires leverage resources to influence media, politicians, and justice systems, which some view as a subversion of democracy in favor of oligarchy.
So given that those nasty dem liberals are all about LGBTQ and social programs what was the purpose of being miffed at min wage? Do you disagree about what he said regarding addressing min wage because it sure seems so. The facts of a society are that service jobs are the machinery that runs the REAL society the stuff people buy and consume on all income levels. We do not value service jobs and they are paid the worst but then every single demographic relies on services these workers are doing. How else would the economies in Calif or Wash or Hawaii or now AZ or Oregon or NY or NJ function without service workers? How would all of society get their consumable goods and services without the workers doing the lousy awful tasks required to make it happen? If anything I would say min wage service jobs are being abused for the benefit of the middle and upper class.
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@ABooksNightmare
So given that those nasty dem liberals are all about LGBTQ and social programs what was the purpose of being miffed at min wage? Do you disagree about what he said regarding addressing min wage because it sure seems so. The facts of a society are that service jobs are the machinery that runs the REAL society the stuff people buy and consume on all income levels. We do not value service jobs and they are paid the worst but then every single demographic relies on services these workers are doing. How else would the economies in Calif or Wash or Hawaii or now AZ or Oregon or NY or NJ function without service workers? How would all of society get their consumable goods and services without the workers doing the lousy awful tasks required to make it happen? If anything I would say min wage service jobs are being abused for the benefit of the middle and upper class.
If you read what I said, which I know you really don't care to because you like to be contentious, it was that addressing minimum wage and raising the base rate does not work if other price levels also increase....my point was is that our state minimum wage is $16.90 per hour but we pay for it everywhere else (e.g. gas, food, housing, etc.)...the only way minimum wage would hold value would be if it raises while the price points stay the same, which of course will not happen because businesses are absorbing a higher cost and therefore pass it along to the consumer...
It looks really attractive that California pays $16.90 as a minimum wage while other states pay a Federal minimum wage of $7.25, but when you are paying $5.60 for a gallon of milk in California that extra income goes to goods and services, meaning minimum wage is relative because prices points also increase...in Alabama, let's say, their minimum wage is $7.25 per hour but a gallon of milk will run you $2.50-$3.00....about half of the price but also about half of minimum wage....
What I said above, and I will repeat it, is that minimum wage is relative to the price point of goods and services and will only work if those price points freeze while minimum wage increases, otherwise it's a moot point as the wages are increased so is the economy of scale of the price points.....so, address minimum wage all you want, but that really doesn't matter if you are paying less for goods and services in Alabama while earning minimum wage or being more than double Federal minimum wage in California while also paying double as a price point for the same product....
Surely you understood exactly what I said, but somehow you chose to create like it is some issue when it's simple economics....you could raise minimum wage to $100 per hour, but all that does is drive up the price points relatively...so, raising minimum wage is not the fix...it's creating a ceiling for price points, but the problem with that is that higher minimum wage means more costs to businesses and therefore they must raise their costs...I see it out here in California and raising minimum wage has never been the fix....it just looks fancy, but it means nothing.....
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If you read what I said, which I know you really don't care to because you like to be contentious, it was that addressing minimum wage and raising the base rate does not work if other price levels also increase....my point was is that our state minimum wage is $16.90 per hour but we pay for it everywhere else (e.g. gas, food, housing, etc.)...the only way minimum wage would hold value would be if it raises while the price points stay the same, which of course will not happen because businesses are absorbing a higher cost and therefore pass it along to the consumer...
It looks really attractive that California pays $16.90 as a minimum wage while other states pay a Federal minimum wage of $7.25, but when you are paying $5.60 for a gallon of milk in California that extra income goes to goods and services, meaning minimum wage is relative because prices points also increase...in Alabama, let's say, their minimum wage is $7.25 per hour but a gallon of milk will run you $2.50-$3.00....about half of the price but also about half of minimum wage....
What I said above, and I will repeat it, is that minimum wage is relative to the price point of goods and services and will only work if those price points freeze while minimum wage increases, otherwise it's a moot point as the wages are increased so is the economy of scale of the price points.....so, address minimum wage all you want, but that really doesn't matter if you are paying less for goods and services in Alabama while earning minimum wage or being more than double Federal minimum wage in California while also paying double as a price point for the same product....
Surely you understood exactly what I said, but somehow you chose to create like it is some issue when it's simple economics....you could raise minimum wage to $100 per hour, but all that does is drive up the price points relatively...so, raising minimum wage is not the fix...it's creating a ceiling for price points, but the problem with that is that higher minimum wage means more costs to businesses and therefore they must raise their costs...I see it out here in California and raising minimum wage has never been the fix....it just looks fancy, but it means nothing.....
You are complaining about min wage and have done that many times in the past. Of course if ANY input cost goes up the cost for the finished product goes up like gas right now. So sure labor is a component of finished goods COGS, how can you avoid that exactly?
Your Alabama example is perfect actually...the cost of living down there is much less due to less demand to live there and excess supply of mobile homes so pricing stays low and the MIN cost of breathing in bama is less than in LA. You and any citizen are welcome to exploit that market and go live there but with that choice comes drawbacks and downsides. Same goes down here, I could choose to live in Guadalupe or crappy downtown Mesa or Maricopa City or Casa Grande and have a lower cost of living and cheaper housing...fact. Do I choose to do that? No...I did that once in the long ago past and the loss of location is far worse than paying up for a better area. I will never again seek to maximize $/ft by sacrificing location. You can...lots of people do and that is your choice. Same goes for your area if you wanted to maximize your housing cost there are ways to do that and if you wanted to pay a TON more there are ways to do that.
In a general QSR restaurant the labor cost should run at 30% and if you are a tight outfit you could get that into the middle 20s, that is industry standard so for every labor dollar increase you would expect a similar rise in product cost. Product cost on the other hand can run in the 30s tight up to 60% plus given several variables so if you are upset at rising fast food prices look more at the cost of making the product vs the labor cost.
At some point there has to be a goal in society to pay a worker a living wage that gives them basic living, access to insurance and the ability to have choices and the ability to progress towards higher goals. Min wage jobs even at 17 an hour do not make that possible. You know the stories of Disney workers living in slums off site because they cannot afford to live anywhere near where they work. The little guy scraping by is not the cause for your woes especially given that you are not forced to consume those products if you feel otherwise.
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@ABooksNightmare
You are complaining about min wage and have done that many times in the past. Of course if ANY input cost goes up the cost for the finished product goes up like gas right now. So sure labor is a component of finished goods COGS, how can you avoid that exactly?
Your Alabama example is perfect actually...the cost of living down there is much less due to less demand to live there and excess supply of mobile homes so pricing stays low and the MIN cost of breathing in bama is less than in LA. You and any citizen are welcome to exploit that market and go live there but with that choice comes drawbacks and downsides. Same goes down here, I could choose to live in Guadalupe or crappy downtown Mesa or Maricopa City or Casa Grande and have a lower cost of living and cheaper housing...fact. Do I choose to do that? No...I did that once in the long ago past and the loss of location is far worse than paying up for a better area. I will never again seek to maximize $/ft by sacrificing location. You can...lots of people do and that is your choice. Same goes for your area if you wanted to maximize your housing cost there are ways to do that and if you wanted to pay a TON more there are ways to do that.
In a general QSR restaurant the labor cost should run at 30% and if you are a tight outfit you could get that into the middle 20s, that is industry standard so for every labor dollar increase you would expect a similar rise in product cost. Product cost on the other hand can run in the 30s tight up to 60% plus given several variables so if you are upset at rising fast food prices look more at the cost of making the product vs the labor cost.
At some point there has to be a goal in society to pay a worker a living wage that gives them basic living, access to insurance and the ability to have choices and the ability to progress towards higher goals. Min wage jobs even at 17 an hour do not make that possible. You know the stories of Disney workers living in slums off site because they cannot afford to live anywhere near where they work. The little guy scraping by is not the cause for your woes especially given that you are not forced to consume those products if you feel otherwise.
In South Carolina Myrtle Beach the minimum wage is 7.25 in New Jersey Belmar the wage is almost 16.00 and I can tell you food prices are about mirror image between Publix and Lowe’s foods compared to Shop Rite and Super Foodtown! Now you pay much higher tax in Nj but at least 50% is school related and you get much better services and policing! …I’ll take the Jersey shore any day of the week and twice on Sunday over a beach from Calabash to Charleston!….Many of the beach’s in Myrtle have Johnny on the spot restroom !….Like a job site…In Jersey you get an attended pavilion with men’s & women’s! As Ac/dc says Money talks
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@ABooksNightmare
In South Carolina Myrtle Beach the minimum wage is 7.25 in New Jersey Belmar the wage is almost 16.00 and I can tell you food prices are about mirror image between Publix and Lowe’s foods compared to Shop Rite and Super Foodtown! Now you pay much higher tax in Nj but at least 50% is school related and you get much better services and policing! …I’ll take the Jersey shore any day of the week and twice on Sunday over a beach from Calabash to Charleston!….Many of the beach’s in Myrtle have Johnny on the spot restroom !….Like a job site…In Jersey you get an attended pavilion with men’s & women’s! As Ac/dc says Money talks
"Climate change, it's the greatest con job ever perpetrated on the world" - dumbphuck Führer of the MAGA REICH
when i see people making comments like that , all i can think is how these people shouldnt even be allowed to have a drivers license. They are just too stupid to be allowed behind the wheel of any vehicle, even a red flyer wagon
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
"Climate change, it's the greatest con job ever perpetrated on the world" - dumbphuck Führer of the MAGA REICH
when i see people making comments like that , all i can think is how these people shouldnt even be allowed to have a drivers license. They are just too stupid to be allowed behind the wheel of any vehicle, even a red flyer wagon
Opposition to government policy to fight global warming is rooted in political identity. People who most oppose policy are those on the right who feel the most hostility toward the left and the most warmth toward the right. However polls show there are more people on the right who accept policy than those who oppose it.
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@fubah2 "climate change"
Opposition to government policy to fight global warming is rooted in political identity. People who most oppose policy are those on the right who feel the most hostility toward the left and the most warmth toward the right. However polls show there are more people on the right who accept policy than those who oppose it.
Der racist Führer of the MAGA REICH cites [alleged] 'national security' to halt US wind farm projects on private lands
May 3 (Reuters) - Trump's Badministration has brought U.S. onshore [clean energy] wind development to a halt, citing ?national security concerns, the Financial Times reported on ?Sunday.
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Der racist Führer of the MAGA REICH cites [alleged] 'national security' to halt US wind farm projects on private lands
May 3 (Reuters) - Trump's Badministration has brought U.S. onshore [clean energy] wind development to a halt, citing ?national security concerns, the Financial Times reported on ?Sunday.
Der racist Führer of the MAGA REICH cites [alleged] 'national security' to halt US wind farm projects on private lands May 3 (Reuters) - Trump's Badministration has brought U.S. onshore [clean energy] wind development to a halt, citing ?national security concerns, the Financial Times reported on ?Sunday.
Approvals for about 165 onshore [clean energy] wind projects on private lands are being ?held up by the Pentagon
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Der racist Führer of the MAGA REICH cites [alleged] 'national security' to halt US wind farm projects on private lands May 3 (Reuters) - Trump's Badministration has brought U.S. onshore [clean energy] wind development to a halt, citing ?national security concerns, the Financial Times reported on ?Sunday.
Approvals for about 165 onshore [clean energy] wind projects on private lands are being ?held up by the Pentagon
It is a paradox where the TNC robots try and complain about wind/solar federal subsidies and ignore that OG subsidizes have been going on for generations and that many industries and corporations have taken subs before their product or industry gained enough traction from a sales perspective and a product cost perspective to turn the corner.
I am good with no subs for wind/solar if that also means no subs for OG and farmers and automakers and large machinery corps and defense contractors, the entire universe of corporate subsidies. Cut one and cut all.
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It is a paradox where the TNC robots try and complain about wind/solar federal subsidies and ignore that OG subsidizes have been going on for generations and that many industries and corporations have taken subs before their product or industry gained enough traction from a sales perspective and a product cost perspective to turn the corner.
I am good with no subs for wind/solar if that also means no subs for OG and farmers and automakers and large machinery corps and defense contractors, the entire universe of corporate subsidies. Cut one and cut all.
Without subsidies, over 90% of new solar and wind plants produce cheaper electricity than from new fossil fuel plants according to Scientific American magazine. Since most countries do not produce enough oil and natural gas, developing more renewable electricity is a path toward more national security and energy independence.
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Without subsidies, over 90% of new solar and wind plants produce cheaper electricity than from new fossil fuel plants according to Scientific American magazine. Since most countries do not produce enough oil and natural gas, developing more renewable electricity is a path toward more national security and energy independence.
Courts have struck down Trump administration efforts to block new wind farms. Unable to defend policy in court, taxpayers money is used to buy companies out of legal wind leases. In the future, US needs more electricity from all sources. Wind is not a threat to national security because defense department already regulates location of wind farms so as to not interfere with radar. Instead restricting domestic energy production could undermine industrial capacity. Unlike US, China is expanding wind energy.
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Courts have struck down Trump administration efforts to block new wind farms. Unable to defend policy in court, taxpayers money is used to buy companies out of legal wind leases. In the future, US needs more electricity from all sources. Wind is not a threat to national security because defense department already regulates location of wind farms so as to not interfere with radar. Instead restricting domestic energy production could undermine industrial capacity. Unlike US, China is expanding wind energy.
Tbh China deserves to be the leader of the future world -- they are playing 4D chess - making one brilliant move after the other ! While your leaders primarily use their time coming up with plans for importing 12 year old girls
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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Tbh China deserves to be the leader of the future world -- they are playing 4D chess - making one brilliant move after the other ! While your leaders primarily use their time coming up with plans for importing 12 year old girls
@fubah2 "Trump withdrawing 5000 troops from Germany"
Odd decision because Germany has done more than other NATO allies to help US in Iran war. Congress republicans are concerned about weakening military because Europe is the front line of US national security against Russia. Trump is confused. NATO members only come to each other aid when one is attacked. For example, 9/11 in New York. NATO is not obligated to aid an aggressor that start wars unilaterally.
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@fubah2 "Trump withdrawing 5000 troops from Germany"
Odd decision because Germany has done more than other NATO allies to help US in Iran war. Congress republicans are concerned about weakening military because Europe is the front line of US national security against Russia. Trump is confused. NATO members only come to each other aid when one is attacked. For example, 9/11 in New York. NATO is not obligated to aid an aggressor that start wars unilaterally.
@fubah2 "Trump withdrawing 5000 troops from Germany" Odd decision because Germany has done more than other NATO allies to help US in Iran war. Congress republicans are concerned about weakening military because Europe is the front line of US national security against Russia. Trump is confused. NATO members only come to each other aid when one is attacked. For example, 9/11 in New York. NATO is not obligated to aid an aggressor that start wars unilaterally.
It's an odd decision because those bases are mainly there to 'help' you by preventing Europe from having to re-militarise, enabling you to conduct missions in the Middle East, and providing you with better intelligence.
I don't think many Germans will shed tears over an occupying force leaving after 80 years — essentially what has happened - not occupying force in a violent way - but to control their decisions away from their self interests. Most Europeans I know aren't any less afraid of Russia just because you're part of NATO and have troops here. You've never proven that you care about other countries' interests, only your own - even your glory to fame WW2 - was because of own interests — so those stupid enough not to know before, would certainly know now, given that you didn't sufficiently defend your Arab allies from Iranian attacks.
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
@fubah2 "Trump withdrawing 5000 troops from Germany" Odd decision because Germany has done more than other NATO allies to help US in Iran war. Congress republicans are concerned about weakening military because Europe is the front line of US national security against Russia. Trump is confused. NATO members only come to each other aid when one is attacked. For example, 9/11 in New York. NATO is not obligated to aid an aggressor that start wars unilaterally.
It's an odd decision because those bases are mainly there to 'help' you by preventing Europe from having to re-militarise, enabling you to conduct missions in the Middle East, and providing you with better intelligence.
I don't think many Germans will shed tears over an occupying force leaving after 80 years — essentially what has happened - not occupying force in a violent way - but to control their decisions away from their self interests. Most Europeans I know aren't any less afraid of Russia just because you're part of NATO and have troops here. You've never proven that you care about other countries' interests, only your own - even your glory to fame WW2 - was because of own interests — so those stupid enough not to know before, would certainly know now, given that you didn't sufficiently defend your Arab allies from Iranian attacks.
Tbh China deserves to be the leader of the future world -- they are playing 4D chess - making one brilliant move after the other ! While your leaders primarily use their time coming up with plans for importing 12 year old girls
and his latest thing, the govt taking over control of the Washington dc golf course, so the criminal con artist can slap his name on everything. Its truly gonna be so much fun watching the next democrat President remove trumps name from everything and i hope trump is still alive watching it happen from his nursing home bed
Millions of people losing healthcare and now he wants our tax dollars to pay for a total redesign of a public golf course
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Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:
Tbh China deserves to be the leader of the future world -- they are playing 4D chess - making one brilliant move after the other ! While your leaders primarily use their time coming up with plans for importing 12 year old girls
and his latest thing, the govt taking over control of the Washington dc golf course, so the criminal con artist can slap his name on everything. Its truly gonna be so much fun watching the next democrat President remove trumps name from everything and i hope trump is still alive watching it happen from his nursing home bed
Millions of people losing healthcare and now he wants our tax dollars to pay for a total redesign of a public golf course
I wish I could say it surprised me - the first set of tariffs aimed at EU was because Scotland had declined his plans for a golf course - because UK (including Scotland), Germany and Denmark are in the process of making the largest wind mill farm in the world - none had told the idiot Scotland isn’t part of EU
Don't mention the frogs - we don't want to scare the toddler - we want him to sleep
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I wish I could say it surprised me - the first set of tariffs aimed at EU was because Scotland had declined his plans for a golf course - because UK (including Scotland), Germany and Denmark are in the process of making the largest wind mill farm in the world - none had told the idiot Scotland isn’t part of EU
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