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    we have not had a good mattbrot principle story lately

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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2017 - 5:08 PM ET #1

    As a full disclaimer I am a well known non-partisan independent. However, I think it is important to point out blatant examples of hypocrisy.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/lawsuit-accuses-fox-concocting-fake-news-trump-181147331.html

    This is LITERALLY the definition of fake news. 

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    As a full disclaimer I am a well known non-partisan independent. However, I think it is important to point out blatant examples of hypocrisy.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/lawsuit-accuses-fox-concocting-fake-news-trump-181147331.html

    This is LITERALLY the definition of fake news. 

     
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    yeah, that's nuts, but to be fair, your average trump nutjob trump supporter knew this hillary killed seth rich story was ridiculous.  you had to be sabanesque or moneysrh version 2.0 insane to give that story and credibility whatsoever. 
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    yeah, that's nuts, but to be fair, your average trump nutjob trump supporter knew this hillary killed seth rich story was ridiculous.  you had to be sabanesque or moneysrh version 2.0 insane to give that story and credibility whatsoever. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2017 - 6:09 PM ET #3

    Do you gentlemen think that Seth Rich could actually live after sending Assange 30,000 e mails belonging to the DNC? There is more to the story than Chris Matthews and Mika will let you know. Seth Rich was taken out like Scalia.

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    Do you gentlemen think that Seth Rich could actually live after sending Assange 30,000 e mails belonging to the DNC? There is more to the story than Chris Matthews and Mika will let you know. Seth Rich was taken out like Scalia.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2017 - 7:03 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    As a full disclaimer I am a well known non-partisan independent. 
      This always cracks me up. I have asked many times for examples of it. Never been answered. Didn't even bother to click on article. Pretty sure it was a solid left one. 
    There are not any independents on here. At least, none that I've seen. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    As a full disclaimer I am a well known non-partisan independent. 
      This always cracks me up. I have asked many times for examples of it. Never been answered. Didn't even bother to click on article. Pretty sure it was a solid left one. 
    There are not any independents on here. At least, none that I've seen. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2017 - 8:41 PM ET #5

     Mattbrot makes Nancy Pelosi look conservative.  Mattbrot principle story, cmon.
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     Mattbrot makes Nancy Pelosi look conservative.  Mattbrot principle story, cmon.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2017 - 9:05 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Do you gentlemen think that Seth Rich could actually live after sending Assange 30,000 e mails belonging to the DNC? There is more to the story than Chris Matthews and Mika will let you know. Seth Rich was taken out like Scalia.


    Or he was killed as part of the daily street violence that has plagued DC since forever. Have you ever been to DC? I'm sure it's been cleaned up some but it's pretty shady. This stuff happens. You may not realize how common it is unless you come from or live in a similar urban environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Do you gentlemen think that Seth Rich could actually live after sending Assange 30,000 e mails belonging to the DNC? There is more to the story than Chris Matthews and Mika will let you know. Seth Rich was taken out like Scalia.


    Or he was killed as part of the daily street violence that has plagued DC since forever. Have you ever been to DC? I'm sure it's been cleaned up some but it's pretty shady. This stuff happens. You may not realize how common it is unless you come from or live in a similar urban environment.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

      This always cracks me up. I have asked many times for examples of it. Never been answered. Didn't even bother to click on article. Pretty sure it was a solid left one. 
    There are not any independents on here. At least, none that I've seen. 

    I'm an independent and pretty squarely down the middle. I have in recent times found myself more on the conservative sode of a lot of these covers debates but i'm extremely liberal on many issues as well. The thing about covers, and our country in general, is that actual issues aren't debated anymore. It's all name calling and hypocracy. My favorite is when one side calls into question a media source and then proceeds to cite a different, equally biased media source. I'm always the one to say all media is full of merde. It's all extremely biased and agenda driven. And it all leans to one side or the other. That goes for television, internet, printed new, ect. but especially cable television and internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

      This always cracks me up. I have asked many times for examples of it. Never been answered. Didn't even bother to click on article. Pretty sure it was a solid left one. 
    There are not any independents on here. At least, none that I've seen. 

    I'm an independent and pretty squarely down the middle. I have in recent times found myself more on the conservative sode of a lot of these covers debates but i'm extremely liberal on many issues as well. The thing about covers, and our country in general, is that actual issues aren't debated anymore. It's all name calling and hypocracy. My favorite is when one side calls into question a media source and then proceeds to cite a different, equally biased media source. I'm always the one to say all media is full of merde. It's all extremely biased and agenda driven. And it all leans to one side or the other. That goes for television, internet, printed new, ect. but especially cable television and internet.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2017 - 9:32 PM ET #8

    "Merde" 
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    "Merde" 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2017 - 11:40 PM ET #9

    Butowsky decides to capitalize on the tragic death of a DNC staffer (Seth Rich) by pushing a story that Rich was the source of the DNC emails that eventually made its way to Wikileaks.
    Bear in mind Butowsky had no evidence to his story. What he did have is a TV network gullible and journalistically malleable enough to buy his story.
    It's so wild it's hard to believe. Sadly we will probably shrug this off as part of the trump chaos. We have been fatigued so much by trump that such active measures common in Russia are now part of our normative politics.
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    Butowsky decides to capitalize on the tragic death of a DNC staffer (Seth Rich) by pushing a story that Rich was the source of the DNC emails that eventually made its way to Wikileaks.
    Bear in mind Butowsky had no evidence to his story. What he did have is a TV network gullible and journalistically malleable enough to buy his story.
    It's so wild it's hard to believe. Sadly we will probably shrug this off as part of the trump chaos. We have been fatigued so much by trump that such active measures common in Russia are now part of our normative politics.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2017 - 9:57 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

     Mattbrot makes Nancy Pelosi look conservative.  Mattbrot principle story, cmon.

    I am curious -- so is your stance that this is not a story? that this is not the very definition of Fake News?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

     Mattbrot makes Nancy Pelosi look conservative.  Mattbrot principle story, cmon.

    I am curious -- so is your stance that this is not a story? that this is not the very definition of Fake News?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

      This always cracks me up. I have asked many times for examples of it. Never been answered. Didn't even bother to click on article. Pretty sure it was a solid left one. 
    There are not any independents on here. At least, none that I've seen. 

    That's cute. I have answered your question many times. I do not need to prove to you that I am a bipartisan independent. And besides whether I am a democrat, republican, non-partisan independent or just simply indifferent to politics in general how does this change the story? How does that impact whether or not this is a classic example of hypocrisy and is the very very definition of the term Fake News? 

    Please explain...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

      This always cracks me up. I have asked many times for examples of it. Never been answered. Didn't even bother to click on article. Pretty sure it was a solid left one. 
    There are not any independents on here. At least, none that I've seen. 

    That's cute. I have answered your question many times. I do not need to prove to you that I am a bipartisan independent. And besides whether I am a democrat, republican, non-partisan independent or just simply indifferent to politics in general how does this change the story? How does that impact whether or not this is a classic example of hypocrisy and is the very very definition of the term Fake News? 

    Please explain...
     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2017 - 10:53 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:


    I'm an independent and pretty squarely down the middle. I have in recent times found myself more on the conservative sode of a lot of these covers debates but i'm extremely liberal on many issues as well. The thing about covers, and our country in general, is that actual issues aren't debated anymore. It's all name calling and hypocracy. My favorite is when one side calls into question a media source and then proceeds to cite a different, equally biased media source. I'm always the one to say all media is full of merde. It's all extremely biased and agenda driven. And it all leans to one side or the other. That goes for television, internet, printed new, ect. but especially cable television and internet.

     Okay---fair enough.  Haven't kept up with that closely.  I take you at your word.  Also, good points. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:


    I'm an independent and pretty squarely down the middle. I have in recent times found myself more on the conservative sode of a lot of these covers debates but i'm extremely liberal on many issues as well. The thing about covers, and our country in general, is that actual issues aren't debated anymore. It's all name calling and hypocracy. My favorite is when one side calls into question a media source and then proceeds to cite a different, equally biased media source. I'm always the one to say all media is full of merde. It's all extremely biased and agenda driven. And it all leans to one side or the other. That goes for television, internet, printed new, ect. but especially cable television and internet.

     Okay---fair enough.  Haven't kept up with that closely.  I take you at your word.  Also, good points. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2017 - 11:06 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    That's cute. I have answered your question many times. I do not need to prove to you that I am a bipartisan independent. And besides whether I am a democrat, republican, non-partisan independent or just simply indifferent to politics in general how does this change the story? How does that impact whether or not this is a classic example of hypocrisy and is the very very definition of the term Fake News? 

    Please explain...

    Not being cute.  Just asking for any examples that show that you are not a democrat. You have never answered that at all.  For example, I asked which of the many Republican candidates did you support last Presidential election? There were a lot of varied ones. Who was the last Republican you voted for in Presidential race?  Where are any of your link to a pro-conservative article instead of a pro-liberal article?  Why is the only hypocrisy you see on the right?  Why in the forum do you always side with the Left on every issue and never the Right?

    I always contend that almost all 'Independents' are Liberals that don't want to admit it.

    But you get the general idea.  Just interested in why you really think you are independent but nobody else seems to think so?

    It just seems a cool thing for folks to claim to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    That's cute. I have answered your question many times. I do not need to prove to you that I am a bipartisan independent. And besides whether I am a democrat, republican, non-partisan independent or just simply indifferent to politics in general how does this change the story? How does that impact whether or not this is a classic example of hypocrisy and is the very very definition of the term Fake News? 

    Please explain...

    Not being cute.  Just asking for any examples that show that you are not a democrat. You have never answered that at all.  For example, I asked which of the many Republican candidates did you support last Presidential election? There were a lot of varied ones. Who was the last Republican you voted for in Presidential race?  Where are any of your link to a pro-conservative article instead of a pro-liberal article?  Why is the only hypocrisy you see on the right?  Why in the forum do you always side with the Left on every issue and never the Right?

    I always contend that almost all 'Independents' are Liberals that don't want to admit it.

    But you get the general idea.  Just interested in why you really think you are independent but nobody else seems to think so?

    It just seems a cool thing for folks to claim to me.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2017 - 7:10 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    I am curious -- so is your stance that this is not a story? that this is not the very definition of Fake News?




    I am curious how in 12 years you've never said anything positive about about the right and never a bad thing about the left.  I don't click on your links because it's nothing but a waste of time.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    I am curious -- so is your stance that this is not a story? that this is not the very definition of Fake News?




    I am curious how in 12 years you've never said anything positive about about the right and never a bad thing about the left.  I don't click on your links because it's nothing but a waste of time.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    I am curious -- so is your stance that this is not a story? that this is not the very definition of Fake News?


    I think he was responding to your statement in the original post that you are a " well known non-partisan. " That is not being honest because you are not. You are, however, known to be very consistently liberal. You need not deny what is obvious to all on this site. There are many liberals here and most see no need to deny it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    I am curious -- so is your stance that this is not a story? that this is not the very definition of Fake News?


    I think he was responding to your statement in the original post that you are a " well known non-partisan. " That is not being honest because you are not. You are, however, known to be very consistently liberal. You need not deny what is obvious to all on this site. There are many liberals here and most see no need to deny it.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1129ken:



    I think he was responding to your statement in the original post that you are a " well known non-partisan. " That is not being honest because you are not. You are, however, known to be very consistently liberal. You need not deny what is obvious to all on this site. There are many liberals here and most see no need to deny it.



    He's the biggest phony in this forum.  He feels like it gives him more credibility saying he's an NPI after he bashes the right for the millionth time in a row.  Sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1129ken:



    I think he was responding to your statement in the original post that you are a " well known non-partisan. " That is not being honest because you are not. You are, however, known to be very consistently liberal. You need not deny what is obvious to all on this site. There are many liberals here and most see no need to deny it.



    He's the biggest phony in this forum.  He feels like it gives him more credibility saying he's an NPI after he bashes the right for the millionth time in a row.  Sad.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2017 - 8:14 PM ET #17

    He and a guy who is now banned ( DL-something or other ) used to make a big deal claiming to be "non-partisan." It was strange to watch because it was so obviously disingenuous. Both guys seemed to be laboring to claim they had no core beliefs, one way or the other. It strained credulity. At one point, a highly respected contributor said something about a " Mattbrot Priciple " and this Mattbrot guy began posting as though he actually had something to say, which he really didn't. I'd bet anything that the highly respected anointer of " matty" wishes he could take it all back because the OP really hasn't added anything here other than self-aggrandizing nonsense.
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    He and a guy who is now banned ( DL-something or other ) used to make a big deal claiming to be "non-partisan." It was strange to watch because it was so obviously disingenuous. Both guys seemed to be laboring to claim they had no core beliefs, one way or the other. It strained credulity. At one point, a highly respected contributor said something about a " Mattbrot Priciple " and this Mattbrot guy began posting as though he actually had something to say, which he really didn't. I'd bet anything that the highly respected anointer of " matty" wishes he could take it all back because the OP really hasn't added anything here other than self-aggrandizing nonsense.
     
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    we have another mattbrot principle submission.  apparently, this jerkoff works at fox news and got suspended for, well, you can probably figure it out.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGb_hmgVwAA3Wo9.jpg
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    we have another mattbrot principle submission.  apparently, this jerkoff works at fox news and got suspended for, well, you can probably figure it out.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGb_hmgVwAA3Wo9.jpg
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    we have another mattbrot principle submission.  apparently, this jerkoff works at fox news and got suspended for, well, you can probably figure it out.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGb_hmgVwAA3Wo9.jpg

          that guy is a grade A douche
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    we have another mattbrot principle submission.  apparently, this jerkoff works at fox news and got suspended for, well, you can probably figure it out.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGb_hmgVwAA3Wo9.jpg

          that guy is a grade A douche
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