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Who gives a sh*t?

One day the planet won't exist and the rest of the universe will carry on.

Your life will not have mattered… no war ever fought will have mattered… No social or political movement ever fought will have mattered... the human race will be gone.

We are f*king micro-dust. If you hate it, take a swig of draino, and disappear.

Quit whining. None of this is that serious. At all. 


 
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Whining! No whining here. You love watching mad men slice the heads off of 21 or so Christians on the beach. The point would be richig761 that you need to take the swig of drano and disappear.
 
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Bad foreign policy decisions under Bush and further magnified by Obama have allowed ISIS to gain strong footholds in sovereign territories. 

There is little doubt that ISIS presents a danger to people all over the world, although, at least for the moment, that is limited to those who come across their path (and what I mean by this is they not have the capabilities that we saw from AQ). 

With this being said, the comparisons to the Nazis and Japanese is logically fallacious because there is nothing that suggests ISIS can acquire such power. Further, all estimates that discuss what exactly it would take to challenge ISIS directly, due to the fact they are quartered with civilians, would require boots on the ground, and with that, American casualties.

Are Americans ready to watch young captured American troops beheaded? I'm not so sure right now....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

Bad foreign policy decisions under Bush and further magnified by Obama have allowed ISIS to gain strong footholds in sovereign territories. 

There is little doubt that ISIS presents a danger to people all over the world, although, at least for the moment, that is limited to those who come across their path (and what I mean by this is they not have the capabilities that we saw from AQ). 

With this being said, the comparisons to the Nazis and Japanese is logically fallacious because there is nothing that suggests ISIS can acquire such power. Further, all estimates that discuss what exactly it would take to challenge ISIS directly, due to the fact they are quartered with civilians, would require boots on the ground, and with that, American casualties.

Are Americans ready to watch young captured American troops beheaded? I'm not so sure right now....


The only way I would put boots on the ground is if other countries would join in. That would mean other countries putting boots on the ground as well. I'm tired of the U.S. sacrificing lives while everyone else watches from the sidelines.

The only difference right now with ISIS and Germany is Germany was an established country. What ISIS is doing in Iraq and Syria is gaining traction.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

Whining! No whining here. You love watching mad men slice the heads off of 21 or so Christians on the beach. The point would be richig761 that you need to take the swig of drano and disappear.

 I love watching anyone that associates themselves with any religion die. So yeah… 

 How about we just call it ALMOST even, for the spanish inquisition… the crusades… and all of the raping and pillaging Christian's have done over the years?

 If you're a christian, a muslim, etc… you can actually raise the human race's IQ by hopping off of your nearest skyscraper! Did you know this? Pretty amazing! It's that easy!

 
 
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Nice!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by richig761:


 I love watching anyone that associates themselves with any religion die. So yeah… 

 How about we just call it ALMOST even, for the spanish inquisition… the crusades… and all of the raping and pillaging Christian's have done over the years?

 If you're a christian, a muslim, etc… you can actually raise the human race's IQ by hopping off of your nearest skyscraper! Did you know this? Pretty amazing! It's that easy!

 


The difference is radical Islam will kill you for being an atheist whereas Radical Christians want to say the "God" in the Pledge of Allegiance.


 
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The difference is radical Islam will kill you for being an atheist whereas Radical Christians want to say the "God" in the Pledge of Allegiance.



I would say radical Christians are a bit more aggressive in their approach, like telling non believers they are destined for hell, criticizing non believers way of life, protesting soldiers funerals, etc. 

However, it is NO WHERE NEAR the level of insanity that is Islam, let alone radical Islam. For a religion that claims to be peaceful, they sure do love to chop of some heads and spill some blood. 

I'm not a fan of any religion, but I would much rather deal with Christianity over Islam any day, all day. 

 
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As we speak

https://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/02/17/isis-reportedly-burns-alive-45-people-in-western-iraqi-town/
 
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I would say radical Christians are a bit more aggressive in their approach, like telling non believers they are destined for hell, criticizing non believers way of life, protesting soldiers funerals, etc. 

However, it is NO WHERE NEAR the level of insanity that is Islam, let alone radical Islam. For a religion that claims to be peaceful, they sure do love to chop of some heads and spill some blood. 

I'm not a fan of any religion, but I would much rather deal with Christianity over Islam any day, all day. 



They're the same animal. Christianity is just a couple hundred years ahead of Islam, for the most part. 
 
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"We need, medium to longer term, to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups, whether it’s lack of opportunities for jobs"..............

You can give all these inbred Muslims jobs Marie ,,but they still won't have affordable healthcare..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

Bad foreign policy decisions under Bush and further magnified by Obama have allowed ISIS to gain strong footholds in sovereign territories. 

There is little doubt that ISIS presents a danger to people all over the world, although, at least for the moment, that is limited to those who come across their path (and what I mean by this is they not have the capabilities that we saw from AQ). 

With this being said, the comparisons to the Nazis and Japanese is logically fallacious because there is nothing that suggests ISIS can acquire such power. Further, all estimates that discuss what exactly it would take to challenge ISIS directly, due to the fact they are quartered with civilians, would require boots on the ground, and with that, American casualties.

Are Americans ready to watch young captured American troops beheaded? I'm not so sure right now....

They can't obtain the necessary power? Suppose they take over a country that has WMDs or a military, which currently not to many people are putting up much of a fight? 

I guess you don't study history much. America is willing to make huge sacrifices for its freedom (10,000 lives lost storming Normandy), it has in the past and is going to in the future if it plans on surviving. People are getting their heads chopped off already and burned alive (another 45 today in Iraq) and we don't have the stomach for it? 

Bush handed over a stable Iraq, all the idiot we currently have had to do was maintain it and instead he decided to flee, and here we are. This administration touted the Arab spring - WELCOMING the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and supporting the overthrow of Quadaffi, further un-stablizing the region.
 
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They can't obtain the necessary power? Suppose they take over a country that has WMDs or a military, which currently not to many people are putting up much of a fight? 

I guess you don't study history much. America is willing to make huge sacrifices for its freedom (10,000 lives lost storming Normandy), it has in the past and is going to in the future if it plans on surviving. People are getting their heads chopped off already and burned alive (another 45 today in Iraq) and we don't have the stomach for it? 

Bush handed over a stable Iraq, all the idiot we currently have had to do was maintain it and instead he decided to flee, and here we are. This administration touted the Arab spring - WELCOMING the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and supporting the overthrow of Quadaffi, further un-stablizing the region.

My left pinky is surely more learned than your (lack of) academia or experiences. Its sad really. Someday, you will look back at your wasted life and wonder why your version of knowledge was what you learned the night  before on Faux News rather than seeking knowledge for yourself. 

Could ISIS obtain a WMD? I suppose that's possible. But what is the solution? Wiping them off the face of the Earth? Can you get all of them? Who is them? And how do you do so? Boots on the ground? Will Americans stand for troops dying?

Which brings up the other issue you feebly tried to raise. As I said, this is no Nazi Germany because this is not the kind of group capable of invading a country. Instead, it is a dangerous terrorist group. But everyday, there are dangerous groups that commit actions everywhere. 

Have you seen what is happening in Nigeria? Do you want our involvement there as well? Or because it is 2000 dead blacks, is that of less importance to you. 


 
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Your left pinky huh? You've always been a joke on here and you never disappoint. Another Fox news basher - here's a dollar go buy a new argument... 

Wasted life? I'm sure your more successful than I am DJ, I'm just certain of it... Do you own a business? Possibly you're a Doctor, or even better a college professor? You won't even say identify what state your in... I'll guess NY. 

I guess the solution is to more or less ignore them, don't even give them the benefit of the doubt as to who they SAY they are. Just ignore them, they'll go away, all they need is a good job. Newsflash, they've invaded Iraq, Syria, & Libya and have thousands of miles of territory to terrorize the populations. Where brilliant DJ do you get your news from? I'm sorry Stewart is retiring, I'm sure your disappointed... If these people aren't dealt with now, they're going to cause mass destruction, but you just keep ignoring them, they'll go away.
 
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President Obama and his whole administration is living in la-la land...

Days after the White House sent Congressional leaders a draft bill that would authorize the continuation of the war against ISIS in Iraq and Syria...and after the U.S. and coalition forces have conducted nearly 2,300 airstrikes hitting more than 4,800 targets in Iraq and Syria ..

Obama's AG Eric Holder makes the comment at a luncheon at the National Press Club , “we're not at a time of war.” 

..and his Secretary of State John Kerry said people can think about it as being a war but .."the fact is it's a major counterterrorism operation.”

..and now the White House is currently holding a bear summit ( not on Muslim terrorism) but on countering violent extremism......lol

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

Your left pinky huh? You've always been a joke on here and you never disappoint. Another Fox news basher - here's a dollar go buy a new argument... 

Wasted life? I'm sure your more successful than I am DJ, I'm just certain of it... Do you own a business? Possibly you're a Doctor, or even better a college professor? You won't even say identify what state your in... I'll guess NY. 

I guess the solution is to more or less ignore them, don't even give them the benefit of the doubt as to who they SAY they are. Just ignore them, they'll go away, all they need is a good job. Newsflash, they've invaded Iraq, Syria, & Libya and have thousands of miles of territory to terrorize the populations. Where brilliant DJ do you get your news from? I'm sorry Stewart is retiring, I'm sure your disappointed... If these people aren't dealt with now, they're going to cause mass destruction, but you just keep ignoring them, they'll go away.

The 'credible hulk' needs to expand his play book. Fox news bashing is certainly not a new tactic. 

You've got to feel a little bit embarrassed for some of the libs on this site. I mean, we get caught up in all the hoopla and history with electing the first African-American president amid opposing suggestions that this guy wasn't the guy he proclaimed to be.

Now, it's unmistakable that the libs and independents that were fooled in an epic manner. Saving face is the first priority for all aforementioned.

The lawyer from Mn needs a new tactic to be sure.

If you think Obama gets a lot of criticism now, wait until 2016 when insider's won't be afraid to tell how it really was.

Obama is all about smoke and mirrors.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


The 'credible hulk' needs to expand his play book. Fox news bashing is certainly not a new tactic. 

You've got to feel a little bit embarrassed for some of the libs on this site. I mean, we get caught up in all the hoopla and history with electing the first African-American president amid opposing suggestions that this guy wasn't the guy he proclaimed to be.

Now, it's unmistakable that the libs and independents that were fooled in an epic manner. Saving face is the first priority for all aforementioned.

The lawyer from Mn needs a new tactic to be sure.

If you think Obama gets a lot of criticism now, wait until 2016 when insider's won't be afraid to tell how it really was.

Obama is all about smoke and mirrors.

The funny thing is my original post was the usual criticism of Obama's foreign policy. I understand you stopped reading after seeing the word 'magnified' as you knew you would be unable to comprehend the rest of the statement. 

I asked a number of questions to Killer and (with sarcasm) shockingly, did not receive a response. Perhaps you can provide you for Killer since you owe him. If it were not for Killer, you would be at the bottom of the covers posters intellectual totem pole. 

But what is the solution? Wiping them off the face of the Earth? Can you get all of them? Who is them? And how do you do so? Boots on the ground? Will Americans stand for troops dying? 

 
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No American with a brain is scared of ISIS.. N Korea could take those scrubs. 
 
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The US would ignore ISIS but the US wants to control who has power in the region.. ISIS is to America as a fly is to an elephant. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


The 'credible hulk' needs to expand his play book. Fox news bashing is certainly not a new tactic. 

 

They are just following ( like sheep ) the tactic from their head liberal lawyer ..

Yesterday ..AG Eric Holder bashes Fox News over the use of the term 'Radical Islam' .. 

 “We spend more time, more time talking about what you call it, as opposed to what do you do about it, you know?” Holder said during an appearance at the National Press Club. “I mean really. If Fox didn’t talk about this, they would have nothing else to talk about, it seems to me.”

 
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The Terrorist Jobs Act is imminent from the administration... They can't get jobs for millions of American but if we can just find some good work for the ISIS membership and potential members, they'd all throw down their weapons and fly the American flag.

Did the U.S. not ignore Germany & Japan before Pearl Harbor? The U.S. took a major hit on 911 and the current crew of morons are 100% incorrect in how to deal with this 14 years later. The left just refuses to believe theres's true evil in the world, they actually believe in their naievety that a couple meetings can solve this. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

Is the suggestion that Isis is a bigger priority than jobs, education, and infrastructure?

No--her suggestion was the 'jobs, education, and infrastructure' would be for ISIS-potential countries. 

If you were asking for our priority---It is not an either/or.  We can do both.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


The funny thing is my original post was the usual criticism of Obama's foreign policy. I understand you stopped reading after seeing the word 'magnified' as you knew you would be unable to comprehend the rest of the statement. 

I asked a number of questions to Killer and (with sarcasm) shockingly, did not receive a response. Perhaps you can provide you for Killer since you owe him. If it were not for Killer, you would be at the bottom of the covers posters intellectual totem pole. 

But what is the solution? Wiping them off the face of the Earth? Can you get all of them? Who is them? And how do you do so? Boots on the ground? Will Americans stand for troops dying? 


 What does 'comprehend' mean?

Is that some greek latin word?

 
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Thanks for the compliment DJ, anytime a liberal makes a statement that they're so superior, it makes my day.

If you've noticed the Congress has the least amount of democrats since the 1920's. Obama's doing the same job on the country he's doing to his party... 


 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

The Terrorist Jobs Act is imminent from the administration... They can't get jobs for millions of American but if we can just find some good work for the ISIS membership and potential members, they'd all throw down their weapons and fly the American flag.

Did the U.S. not ignore Germany & Japan before Pearl Harbor? The U.S. took a major hit on 911 and the current crew of morons are 100% incorrect in how to deal with this 14 years later. The left just refuses to believe theres's true evil in the world, they actually believe in their naievety that a couple meetings can solve this. 


I'm sure you will get around to answering the questions I asked in post 42...

just as soon as you get the email back rightwingextremists.com telling you what to think. 

Make sure you tell Slim and Bowl what the answer is so they can respond the same way. 
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