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    Midnight1
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2022 - 5:11 PM ET #176

    Republicans are really hoping no one remembers that they totally let Trump skate for threatening to withhold military assistance to Ukraine unless Zelensky gave him dirt on Biden. Zelensky wouldn't succumb to the threats of that POS bully.

    We haven't forgotten & neither has Ukraine.

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    Republicans are really hoping no one remembers that they totally let Trump skate for threatening to withhold military assistance to Ukraine unless Zelensky gave him dirt on Biden. Zelensky wouldn't succumb to the threats of that POS bully.

    We haven't forgotten & neither has Ukraine.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2022 - 5:16 PM ET #177

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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2022 - 5:31 PM ET #178

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Republicans are really hoping no one remembers that they totally let Trump skate for threatening to withhold military assistance to Ukraine unless Zelensky gave him dirt on Biden. Zelensky wouldn't succumb to the threats of that POS bully.

    We haven't forgotten & neither has Ukraine.

     

    yep      meanwhile he respects joe biden and knows that joe is in a very tough position facing opposition and lobying from both sides to support enact the SWIFT sanction on russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Republicans are really hoping no one remembers that they totally let Trump skate for threatening to withhold military assistance to Ukraine unless Zelensky gave him dirt on Biden. Zelensky wouldn't succumb to the threats of that POS bully.

    We haven't forgotten & neither has Ukraine.

     

    yep      meanwhile he respects joe biden and knows that joe is in a very tough position facing opposition and lobying from both sides to support enact the SWIFT sanction on russia

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2022 - 5:39 PM ET #179

    EU and US agree to disconnect some Russian banks from Swift.
     
    Great to have allies again!
     
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    EU and US agree to disconnect some Russian banks from Swift.
     
    Great to have allies again!
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2022 - 5:54 PM ET #180

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    These are all the real issues.  Wallstreet talks about his hatred for fracking. Putin also spreads propaganda against fracking and secretly backs “green” organizations that try to end fracking.  Why?  Because fracking is a massive threat to Russia.  Trump supported a TON of things that were a REAL threat to Russia. If you can’t acknowledge that then you either don’t have a grasp on the real issues or you’re incapable of being honest because of your hatred (misinformed) for Trump.

    Careful with your temper in this thread...you are playing with fire and is it worth it?

    I am against fracking because of the cost to the environment and the population. When you inject acids, petro chemicals, lead, etc etc into cracks of the earth to force out the goodies what happens to the chemicals that are used to free up the gunk collected? Where do even moderate ammts of these toxic chemicals go? They go into the water table which feeds to wells and lakes and rivers and the soil where people live. 

    I would rather spend efforts on becoming less dependent on oil than to extract it through fracking, I would rather consume less than make more. I think Trump could care less about impacts from his choices, his entire life has been void of any consideration of impact and his flagrant reversal on fracking is just another sign of his profit centered approach to life and it is a flawed approach that directly results in the deaths of thousands if not more. If we spent money on renewables that is now spent for tax freebies and government handouts to the petro corporations and focused on developing other ways to reduce consumption that would mean there is no need for fracking and ruining the water table. It is quite unnerving to consider that the water table is globally interconnected so fracking pollution does have impact far from just the small location the chemicals are used to extract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    These are all the real issues.  Wallstreet talks about his hatred for fracking. Putin also spreads propaganda against fracking and secretly backs “green” organizations that try to end fracking.  Why?  Because fracking is a massive threat to Russia.  Trump supported a TON of things that were a REAL threat to Russia. If you can’t acknowledge that then you either don’t have a grasp on the real issues or you’re incapable of being honest because of your hatred (misinformed) for Trump.

    Careful with your temper in this thread...you are playing with fire and is it worth it?

    I am against fracking because of the cost to the environment and the population. When you inject acids, petro chemicals, lead, etc etc into cracks of the earth to force out the goodies what happens to the chemicals that are used to free up the gunk collected? Where do even moderate ammts of these toxic chemicals go? They go into the water table which feeds to wells and lakes and rivers and the soil where people live. 

    I would rather spend efforts on becoming less dependent on oil than to extract it through fracking, I would rather consume less than make more. I think Trump could care less about impacts from his choices, his entire life has been void of any consideration of impact and his flagrant reversal on fracking is just another sign of his profit centered approach to life and it is a flawed approach that directly results in the deaths of thousands if not more. If we spent money on renewables that is now spent for tax freebies and government handouts to the petro corporations and focused on developing other ways to reduce consumption that would mean there is no need for fracking and ruining the water table. It is quite unnerving to consider that the water table is globally interconnected so fracking pollution does have impact far from just the small location the chemicals are used to extract.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2022 - 6:16 PM ET #181

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    EU and US agree to disconnect some Russian banks from Swift.   Great to have allies again!

    amid all the suffering and stress in europe now  good news like this is welcome !  thumbs_up

    keep it coming gents !   an_cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    EU and US agree to disconnect some Russian banks from Swift.   Great to have allies again!

    amid all the suffering and stress in europe now  good news like this is welcome !  thumbs_up

    keep it coming gents !   an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2022 - 6:18 PM ET #182

    Putin's propaganda is failing everywhere around the world except here.

     

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    Putin's propaganda is failing everywhere around the world except here.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2022 - 6:20 PM ET #183

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I would rather spend efforts on becoming less dependent on oil than to extract it through fracking,

    I would rather consume less than make more.

    an_clap  now thats what im talkin'bout too  

     

    less is more !

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    I would rather spend efforts on becoming less dependent on oil than to extract it through fracking,

    I would rather consume less than make more.

    an_clap  now thats what im talkin'bout too  

     

    less is more !

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2022 - 6:20 PM ET #184

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @hoody  Actually, I'm playing 5 different racetracks along with watching the Kentucky/Arkansas & Texas/WVU games & responding on Covers to keep the bullshit from spreading.

    Oaklawn I hope?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    @hoody  Actually, I'm playing 5 different racetracks along with watching the Kentucky/Arkansas & Texas/WVU games & responding on Covers to keep the bullshit from spreading.

    Oaklawn I hope?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2022 - 6:37 PM ET #185

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Just like many in this forum try to disassociate themselves from Trump, Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI) is trying to do the same thing with Putin/Russia. The only problem is he promoted Russian disinformation from known Russian assets in Ukraine to help Trump’s re-election in 2020, even though he knew it was all bogus.  He can try to whitewash his actions, but Americans remember.

    That senator is scurrilous at best.   But fits right into the "Trump For King" orbit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Just like many in this forum try to disassociate themselves from Trump, Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI) is trying to do the same thing with Putin/Russia. The only problem is he promoted Russian disinformation from known Russian assets in Ukraine to help Trump’s re-election in 2020, even though he knew it was all bogus.  He can try to whitewash his actions, but Americans remember.

    That senator is scurrilous at best.   But fits right into the "Trump For King" orbit

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2022 - 10:27 PM ET #186

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Putin's propaganda is failing everywhere around the world except here.

    I wonder why that is a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Putin's propaganda is failing everywhere around the world except here.

    I wonder why that is a fact.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2022 - 11:45 PM ET #187

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Germany and Italy are now both reportedly ready to remove Russia from the SWIFT banking system. They were the only two known holdouts. If Russia loses access to SWIFT, the financial implosion of Russia will be... swift.

    According to this Bloomberg article CITI and JPM told the administration it could cause the USD to fall and have an inflationary effect

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-25/wall-street-counsels-washington-against-kicking-russia-off-swift

    Others are saying it will mark the end of the USD as global reserve currency and usher in hyperinflation. 

    Do you ever have any idea what you’re talking about or do you just say things? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Germany and Italy are now both reportedly ready to remove Russia from the SWIFT banking system. They were the only two known holdouts. If Russia loses access to SWIFT, the financial implosion of Russia will be... swift.

    According to this Bloomberg article CITI and JPM told the administration it could cause the USD to fall and have an inflationary effect

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-25/wall-street-counsels-washington-against-kicking-russia-off-swift

    Others are saying it will mark the end of the USD as global reserve currency and usher in hyperinflation. 

    Do you ever have any idea what you’re talking about or do you just say things? 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2022 - 11:54 PM ET #188

    If they don’t support cutting off natural gas and oil sales from Russia, then they’re virtue signaling.

    This is all you need to know at this point. 

    an_light

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    If they don’t support cutting off natural gas and oil sales from Russia, then they’re virtue signaling.

    This is all you need to know at this point. 

    an_light

     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2022 - 12:42 AM ET #189

    peace_5 *Thanks to Midnight1 for alerting to this story earlier

     

    White House and EU nations announce expulsion of 'selected Russian banks' from SWIFT

    USA TODAY -

    The Biden administration, along with the European Commission,
    France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada, announced
    Saturday evening that they would expel key Russian banks from SWIFT,
    pledging to "collectively ensure that this war is a strategic failure for Putin."

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    peace_5 *Thanks to Midnight1 for alerting to this story earlier

     

    White House and EU nations announce expulsion of 'selected Russian banks' from SWIFT

    USA TODAY -

    The Biden administration, along with the European Commission,
    France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada, announced
    Saturday evening that they would expel key Russian banks from SWIFT,
    pledging to "collectively ensure that this war is a strategic failure for Putin."

     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2022 - 3:47 AM ET #190

    Biden's Son, Kerry Family Friend Join Ukrainian Gas Producer's Board


    Ukraine's Burisma Holdings Is Controlled by Former Energy Official Under Yanukovych

     

    2014 

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    Biden's Son, Kerry Family Friend Join Ukrainian Gas Producer's Board


    Ukraine's Burisma Holdings Is Controlled by Former Energy Official Under Yanukovych

     

    2014 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    peace_5 *Thanks to Midnight1 for alerting to this story earlier

     

    White House and EU nations announce expulsion of 'selected Russian banks' from SWIFT

     

    USA TODAY -

     The Biden administration, along with the European Commission,
    France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada, announced
    Saturday evening that they would expel key Russian banks from SWIFT,
    pledging to "collectively ensure that this war is a strategic failure for Putin."

     

    I applaud the Euro nations and the Biden administration on that move.

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    peace_5 *Thanks to Midnight1 for alerting to this story earlier

     

    White House and EU nations announce expulsion of 'selected Russian banks' from SWIFT

     

    USA TODAY -

     The Biden administration, along with the European Commission,
    France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada, announced
    Saturday evening that they would expel key Russian banks from SWIFT,
    pledging to "collectively ensure that this war is a strategic failure for Putin."

     

    I applaud the Euro nations and the Biden administration on that move.

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    *Thanks to Midnight1 for alerting to this story earlier   White House and EU nations announce expulsion of 'selected Russian banks' from SWIFT USA TODAY - The Biden administration, along with the European Commission, France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada, announced Saturday evening that they would expel key Russian banks from SWIFT, pledging to "collectively ensure that this war is a strategic failure for Putin."
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    *Thanks to Midnight1 for alerting to this story earlier   White House and EU nations announce expulsion of 'selected Russian banks' from SWIFT USA TODAY - The Biden administration, along with the European Commission, France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada, announced Saturday evening that they would expel key Russian banks from SWIFT, pledging to "collectively ensure that this war is a strategic failure for Putin."
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    peace_5 *Thanks to Midnight1 for alerting to this story earlier

     

    White House and EU nations announce expulsion of 'selected Russian banks' from SWIFT

    USA TODAY -

    The Biden administration, along with the European Commission,
    France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada, announced
    Saturday evening that they would expel key Russian banks from SWIFT,
    pledging to "collectively ensure that this war is a strategic failure for Putin."

    "This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the
    international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally,"
    they wrote in a joint statement released by the White House,
    also pledging
          "restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank
           from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine
           the impact of our sanctions,"
    and
    restricting the sale of "golden passports" that allow
    Russian oligarchs to avoid the brunt of sanctions already levied.

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    peace_5 *Thanks to Midnight1 for alerting to this story earlier

     

    White House and EU nations announce expulsion of 'selected Russian banks' from SWIFT

    USA TODAY -

    The Biden administration, along with the European Commission,
    France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada, announced
    Saturday evening that they would expel key Russian banks from SWIFT,
    pledging to "collectively ensure that this war is a strategic failure for Putin."

    "This will ensure that these banks are disconnected from the
    international financial system and harm their ability to operate globally,"
    they wrote in a joint statement released by the White House,
    also pledging
          "restrictive measures that will prevent the Russian Central Bank
           from deploying its international reserves in ways that undermine
           the impact of our sanctions,"
    and
    restricting the sale of "golden passports" that allow
    Russian oligarchs to avoid the brunt of sanctions already levied.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2022 - 3:05 PM ET #194

    All over the tech world, there are reports Intel & AMD have stopped shipping product deliveries to Russia. 

    Haven't seen MSM pick up this news as of yet.

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    All over the tech world, there are reports Intel & AMD have stopped shipping product deliveries to Russia. 

    Haven't seen MSM pick up this news as of yet.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2022 - 5:54 PM ET #195

    Doesn't matter what happens in Ukraine... The stage is set for WW3 sadly...

     

     

    Sip on that plus money honey!
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    Doesn't matter what happens in Ukraine... The stage is set for WW3 sadly...

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2022 - 7:41 PM ET #196

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    White House and EU nations announce expulsion of 'selected Russian banks' from SWIFT

    USA TODAY -

    The Biden administration, along with the European Commission,
    France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada, announced
    Saturday evening that they would expel key Russian banks from SWIFT,
    pledging to "collectively ensure that this war is a strategic failure for Putin."

    US and European officials have also discussed targeting the Russian Central Bank with sanctions, according to two people familiar with the talks, a step without precedent for an economy of Russia's size.
    Targeting the central bank would strike at the heart of Putin's yearslong efforts to insulate his economy from sanctions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    White House and EU nations announce expulsion of 'selected Russian banks' from SWIFT

    USA TODAY -

    The Biden administration, along with the European Commission,
    France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada, announced
    Saturday evening that they would expel key Russian banks from SWIFT,
    pledging to "collectively ensure that this war is a strategic failure for Putin."

    US and European officials have also discussed targeting the Russian Central Bank with sanctions, according to two people familiar with the talks, a step without precedent for an economy of Russia's size.
    Targeting the central bank would strike at the heart of Putin's yearslong efforts to insulate his economy from sanctions.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 27, 2022 - 9:06 PM ET #197

    When is Biden going to put sanctions on their gas and oil? 

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    When is Biden going to put sanctions on their gas and oil? 

    sleep2

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2022 - 9:09 AM ET #198

    sweden has sent 5000 anti-tank weapons to ukraine

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    sweden has sent 5000 anti-tank weapons to ukraine

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2022 - 10:09 AM ET #199

    IOC recommends Russian and Belarusian athletes
    be *BANNED* from international sporting events

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    The International Olympic Committee (IOC) Monday
    recommended that Russian and Belarusian athletes
    be banned from competing in all international sporting events.

    “In order to protect the integrity of global sports competitions
    and for the safety of all the participants, the IOC EB
    recommends that International Sports Federations and
    sports event organisers not invite or allow the participation
    of Russian and Belarusian athletes and officials in
    international competitions,” read a statement.

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    IOC recommends Russian and Belarusian athletes
    be *BANNED* from international sporting events

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    The International Olympic Committee (IOC) Monday
    recommended that Russian and Belarusian athletes
    be banned from competing in all international sporting events.

    “In order to protect the integrity of global sports competitions
    and for the safety of all the participants, the IOC EB
    recommends that International Sports Federations and
    sports event organisers not invite or allow the participation
    of Russian and Belarusian athletes and officials in
    international competitions,” read a statement.

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2022 - 10:24 AM ET #200

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    sweden has sent 5000 anti-tank weapons to ukraine

    Extraordinarily, Sweden is not a member of NATO but it is repelling Russia and helping Ukraine. 

    Also, Switzerland – which has maintained neutrality for hundreds of years – joined the EU in imposing sanctions against Russia, including Putin.--Yahoo News. 

    The whole free world is hugging tightly together and standing against Putin and Russia's aggression over Ukraine.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    sweden has sent 5000 anti-tank weapons to ukraine

    Extraordinarily, Sweden is not a member of NATO but it is repelling Russia and helping Ukraine. 

    Also, Switzerland – which has maintained neutrality for hundreds of years – joined the EU in imposing sanctions against Russia, including Putin.--Yahoo News. 

    The whole free world is hugging tightly together and standing against Putin and Russia's aggression over Ukraine.  

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