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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2022 - 9:07 AM ET #1001

     

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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2022 - 9:29 AM ET #1002

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    We don't bluff. - Joe Biden

     authorizes another 800 million weapons package for the Ukrainian defense. Keep your oil. We good on our  supply chain

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    We don't bluff. - Joe Biden

     authorizes another 800 million weapons package for the Ukrainian defense. Keep your oil. We good on our  supply chain

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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2022 - 12:34 PM ET #1003

    What do American tax payers get for sending billions of their money to Ukraine? 

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    What do American tax payers get for sending billions of their money to Ukraine? 

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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2022 - 12:44 PM ET #1004

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    What do American tax payers get for sending billions of their money to Ukraine?

    Each American male, given they are financially stable, gets three Ukrainian women. There won't be any Ukrainian men left if they letting the western world egg them on in this unwinnable skirmish.

    So, you know... I love my wife but I'll take three Ukrainian chicks. Better use of my tax dollars than boondoggle public works projects. Better use than paying a bunch of unnecessary salaries. How do we fix the homeless problem? Let's pay a thousand people 80-120K to talk about how to fix the homeless problem. Let's not forget about the expense accounts to pay for the Starbuck's runs, and the martini lunches, to talk about how to fix the homeless problem.

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    What do American tax payers get for sending billions of their money to Ukraine?

    Each American male, given they are financially stable, gets three Ukrainian women. There won't be any Ukrainian men left if they letting the western world egg them on in this unwinnable skirmish.

    So, you know... I love my wife but I'll take three Ukrainian chicks. Better use of my tax dollars than boondoggle public works projects. Better use than paying a bunch of unnecessary salaries. How do we fix the homeless problem? Let's pay a thousand people 80-120K to talk about how to fix the homeless problem. Let's not forget about the expense accounts to pay for the Starbuck's runs, and the martini lunches, to talk about how to fix the homeless problem.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2022 - 2:30 PM ET #1005

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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2022 - 3:01 PM ET #1006

    Only smokehouses. No Omega Mu's. For each one you knock up, you have to be able to afford bringing over and supporting her babushka as well, to help out. Nobody, matter how rich, gets more than three. Them's the rules.

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    Only smokehouses. No Omega Mu's. For each one you knock up, you have to be able to afford bringing over and supporting her babushka as well, to help out. Nobody, matter how rich, gets more than three. Them's the rules.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2022 - 4:40 PM ET #1007

    Every year we have foreign exchange students from Europe at retail locations through out the state.

    They travel and work from eastern Europe specifically Ukraine .

    with work Visas for summer tourist season where we have more positions than labor pool . They earn money for college. If accepted here they continue working and attend school as work study programs.

    Attain a degree and return home. 

    Many here are outraged over the violence there in their home country. 10 percent have fled abroad. 

    40 percent displaced. Missing and dead is unaccountable. 

    Russia's getting it.

    They need to sink the black sea fleet.

    And fortify a missile defense systems .

     

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    Every year we have foreign exchange students from Europe at retail locations through out the state.

    They travel and work from eastern Europe specifically Ukraine .

    with work Visas for summer tourist season where we have more positions than labor pool . They earn money for college. If accepted here they continue working and attend school as work study programs.

    Attain a degree and return home. 

    Many here are outraged over the violence there in their home country. 10 percent have fled abroad. 

    40 percent displaced. Missing and dead is unaccountable. 

    Russia's getting it.

    They need to sink the black sea fleet.

    And fortify a missile defense systems .

     

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2022 - 6:09 PM ET #1008

    The Pope's Easter message was concerns of conflicted nations.

    In a speech from the balcony of St. Peter’s Basilica, the pope quoted a declaration in the 1950s in which scientists posed the question: “Shall we put an end to the human race, or shall mankind renounce war?”

    The pope has repeatedly made anguished pleas for a cease-fire and negotiations to end the war in Ukraine. In his Easter message, Francis lamented that “so many of our brothers and sisters have had to lock themselves away in order to be safe from bombing.”

    He expressed hope that the war in Europe will “also make us more concerned about other situations of conflict, suffering and sorrow” in situations “that we cannot overlook and do not want to forget.” Among the places he cited were Lebanon, Syria and Iraq. He singled out Yemen, which is suffering from a conflict “forgotten by all, with continuous victims.”

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    The Pope's Easter message was concerns of conflicted nations.

    In a speech from the balcony of St. Peter’s Basilica, the pope quoted a declaration in the 1950s in which scientists posed the question: “Shall we put an end to the human race, or shall mankind renounce war?”

    The pope has repeatedly made anguished pleas for a cease-fire and negotiations to end the war in Ukraine. In his Easter message, Francis lamented that “so many of our brothers and sisters have had to lock themselves away in order to be safe from bombing.”

    He expressed hope that the war in Europe will “also make us more concerned about other situations of conflict, suffering and sorrow” in situations “that we cannot overlook and do not want to forget.” Among the places he cited were Lebanon, Syria and Iraq. He singled out Yemen, which is suffering from a conflict “forgotten by all, with continuous victims.”

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2022 - 6:49 PM ET #1009

    asserted, according to Ukrainian soldiers who had previously surrendered, "there are up to 400 foreign mercenaries who joined the Ukrainian forces" trapped at the plant, including Europeans and Canadians. "In case of further resistance, all of them will be eliminated," it said.
    Shmyhal, Ukraine's prime minister, said despite the relentless Russian attacks, "not one big city in Ukraine has fallen."
    "Only Kherson is under control of Russian military forces, but all of the rest of the cities are under Ukrainian control," he said, adding some of the cities in the surrounding areas were "besieged but still under Ukrainian control."

    Source CNN newsroom.

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    asserted, according to Ukrainian soldiers who had previously surrendered, "there are up to 400 foreign mercenaries who joined the Ukrainian forces" trapped at the plant, including Europeans and Canadians. "In case of further resistance, all of them will be eliminated," it said.
    Shmyhal, Ukraine's prime minister, said despite the relentless Russian attacks, "not one big city in Ukraine has fallen."
    "Only Kherson is under control of Russian military forces, but all of the rest of the cities are under Ukrainian control," he said, adding some of the cities in the surrounding areas were "besieged but still under Ukrainian control."

    Source CNN newsroom.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 17, 2022 - 6:54 PM ET #1010

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Every year we have foreign exchange students from Europe at retail locations through out the state. They travel and work from eastern Europe specifically Ukraine . with work Visas for summer tourist season where we have more positions than labor pool . They earn money for college. If accepted here they continue working and attend school as work study programs. Attain a degree and return home.  Many here are outraged over the violence there in their home country. 10 percent have fled abroad.  40 percent displaced. Missing and dead is unaccountable.  Russia's getting it. They need to sink the black sea fleet. And fortify a missile defense systems .

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Every year we have foreign exchange students from Europe at retail locations through out the state. They travel and work from eastern Europe specifically Ukraine . with work Visas for summer tourist season where we have more positions than labor pool . They earn money for college. If accepted here they continue working and attend school as work study programs. Attain a degree and return home.  Many here are outraged over the violence there in their home country. 10 percent have fled abroad.  40 percent displaced. Missing and dead is unaccountable.  Russia's getting it. They need to sink the black sea fleet. And fortify a missile defense systems .

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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2022 - 7:07 AM ET #1011

    This is by design. Agents of chaos.

    The risk of Canadian weapons shipments being lost, stolen or otherwise misused is growing as the war in Ukraine enters a chaotic and uncertain new phase.

    And with shipments of Canadian weapons still due to arrive in Ukraine, some are warning that parts of those shipments could end up on the black market or be turned against the Ukrainian people by the Russian military or local paramilitary groups.

     

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadian-weapons-ukraine-misuse-1.6386109

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    This is by design. Agents of chaos.

    The risk of Canadian weapons shipments being lost, stolen or otherwise misused is growing as the war in Ukraine enters a chaotic and uncertain new phase.

    And with shipments of Canadian weapons still due to arrive in Ukraine, some are warning that parts of those shipments could end up on the black market or be turned against the Ukrainian people by the Russian military or local paramilitary groups.

     

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadian-weapons-ukraine-misuse-1.6386109

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2022 - 7:09 AM ET #1012

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    What do American tax payers get for sending billions of their money to Ukraine?

    The fact that people support sending billions to Ukraine yet can’t answer this simple question shows how stupid the average American is. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    What do American tax payers get for sending billions of their money to Ukraine?

    The fact that people support sending billions to Ukraine yet can’t answer this simple question shows how stupid the average American is. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    What do American tax payers get for sending billions of their money to Ukraine?

    President Eisenhower warned us all in his last address to the nation about the then, coming danger of the military/industrial complex taking over the foreign policy of the United States. The arms' manufacturers have kept America at perpetual war since 1950...the merchants of war have milked the country dry and have made more than likely trillions of dollars in profit. 

    All rational Americans agree that we shouldn’t get involved in the Russia-Ukraine War. The neocon warmongers with brain dead Biden as their figurehead want to destroy Russia, and they are willing to risk nuclear war to do it. 

    The murder of John Kennedy in November of 1963, wasn't just a one off hit, it was an overthrow of our government by this same military/industrial complex and the Intel community and it is still in their hands today. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    What do American tax payers get for sending billions of their money to Ukraine?

    President Eisenhower warned us all in his last address to the nation about the then, coming danger of the military/industrial complex taking over the foreign policy of the United States. The arms' manufacturers have kept America at perpetual war since 1950...the merchants of war have milked the country dry and have made more than likely trillions of dollars in profit. 

    All rational Americans agree that we shouldn’t get involved in the Russia-Ukraine War. The neocon warmongers with brain dead Biden as their figurehead want to destroy Russia, and they are willing to risk nuclear war to do it. 

    The murder of John Kennedy in November of 1963, wasn't just a one off hit, it was an overthrow of our government by this same military/industrial complex and the Intel community and it is still in their hands today. 


     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2022 - 11:31 AM ET #1014

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    The only way to negotiate with terrorists is with an iron fist.

    Agreed.

    This includes domestic terrorists and those who support, enable and/or incite domestic terrorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    The only way to negotiate with terrorists is with an iron fist.

    Agreed.

    This includes domestic terrorists and those who support, enable and/or incite domestic terrorists.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: The only way to negotiate with terrorists is with an iron fist. Agreed. This includes domestic terrorists and those who support, enable and/or incite domestic terrorists.

    Be careful of this mentality because the power in charge can inflict deviation with our military. 

    When trump was in charge he advocated for a black labeled police force in Portland Oregon. Against protestors it is a slippery slope when dealing with a domestic adgenda and a functioning civilian police force all sworn to uphold the laws of the United States employing military and weapons package on domestic ground helps our truer enemy. ( Foreign governments and agencies bent on damaging the United States.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: The only way to negotiate with terrorists is with an iron fist. Agreed. This includes domestic terrorists and those who support, enable and/or incite domestic terrorists.

    Be careful of this mentality because the power in charge can inflict deviation with our military. 

    When trump was in charge he advocated for a black labeled police force in Portland Oregon. Against protestors it is a slippery slope when dealing with a domestic adgenda and a functioning civilian police force all sworn to uphold the laws of the United States employing military and weapons package on domestic ground helps our truer enemy. ( Foreign governments and agencies bent on damaging the United States.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: The only way to negotiate with terrorists is with an iron fist. Agreed. This includes domestic terrorists and those who support, enable and/or incite domestic terrorists.

    Be careful of this mentality because the power in charge can inflict deviation with our military.  When trump was in charge he advocated for a black labeled police force in Portland Oregon.

     

    so a bit like adolf hitler did with his infamous "brown shirt" thugs in nazi germany ?   i had forgotten chump was leaning that way

     

    hey fubah , theres another one to add to that list that midnight1 started

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: The only way to negotiate with terrorists is with an iron fist. Agreed. This includes domestic terrorists and those who support, enable and/or incite domestic terrorists.

    Be careful of this mentality because the power in charge can inflict deviation with our military.  When trump was in charge he advocated for a black labeled police force in Portland Oregon.

     

    so a bit like adolf hitler did with his infamous "brown shirt" thugs in nazi germany ?   i had forgotten chump was leaning that way

     

    hey fubah , theres another one to add to that list that midnight1 started

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2022 - 8:07 PM ET #1017

    Back in Ukraine howitzers are being deployed.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/18/us-to-train-ukrainians-on-howitzer-artillery-systems-in-next-days

    The United States plans to begin training Ukrainians on how to operate howitzer artillery systems in the coming days, a senior US defence official has said, as the Biden administration seeks to bolster Ukraine’s defences against an expected Russian offensive in the east.

    The 155mm howitzer cannons are part of an additional $800m weapons package for Ukraine that US President Joe Biden announced last week. It also includes other artillery systems, artillery rounds, armoured personnel carriers and helicopters.

    “This new package of assistance will contain many of the highly effective weapons systems we have already provided and new capabilities tailored to the wider assault we expect Russia to launch in eastern Ukraine,” Biden said in a statement on Wednesday.

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy last week had called on the country’s allies to provide more heavy equipment and weapons to stave off the expected Russian offensive in eastern Ukraine.

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    Back in Ukraine howitzers are being deployed.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/18/us-to-train-ukrainians-on-howitzer-artillery-systems-in-next-days

    The United States plans to begin training Ukrainians on how to operate howitzer artillery systems in the coming days, a senior US defence official has said, as the Biden administration seeks to bolster Ukraine’s defences against an expected Russian offensive in the east.

    The 155mm howitzer cannons are part of an additional $800m weapons package for Ukraine that US President Joe Biden announced last week. It also includes other artillery systems, artillery rounds, armoured personnel carriers and helicopters.

    “This new package of assistance will contain many of the highly effective weapons systems we have already provided and new capabilities tailored to the wider assault we expect Russia to launch in eastern Ukraine,” Biden said in a statement on Wednesday.

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy last week had called on the country’s allies to provide more heavy equipment and weapons to stave off the expected Russian offensive in eastern Ukraine.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2022 - 8:34 PM ET #1018

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: The only way to negotiate with terrorists is with an iron fist. Agreed. This includes domestic terrorists and those who support, enable and/or incite domestic terrorists.

    I agree.

    It was awful to see everyone supporting BLM as they caused billions worth of insurance claims and deaths. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: The only way to negotiate with terrorists is with an iron fist. Agreed. This includes domestic terrorists and those who support, enable and/or incite domestic terrorists.

    I agree.

    It was awful to see everyone supporting BLM as they caused billions worth of insurance claims and deaths. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2022 - 8:37 PM ET #1019

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: The only way to negotiate with terrorists is with an iron fist. Agreed. This includes domestic terrorists and those who support, enable and/or incite domestic terrorists.

     

    Be careful of this mentality because the power in charge can inflict deviation with our military.  When trump was in charge he advocated for a black labeled police force in Portland Oregon.

     

     

     

    so a bit like adolf hitler did with his infamous "brown shirt" thugs in nazi germany ?   i had forgotten chump was leaning that way

    hey fubah , theres another one to add to that list that midnight1 started

     

    Yup just like Adolf Hitler's 'Brown Shirts'

    That's what he wanted.

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: The only way to negotiate with terrorists is with an iron fist. Agreed. This includes domestic terrorists and those who support, enable and/or incite domestic terrorists.

     

    Be careful of this mentality because the power in charge can inflict deviation with our military.  When trump was in charge he advocated for a black labeled police force in Portland Oregon.

     

     

     

    so a bit like adolf hitler did with his infamous "brown shirt" thugs in nazi germany ?   i had forgotten chump was leaning that way

    hey fubah , theres another one to add to that list that midnight1 started

     

    Yup just like Adolf Hitler's 'Brown Shirts'

    That's what he wanted.

     

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Ukrainian forces are facing upcoming massive battles against Russians in the Eastern front. The supply of heavy weapons from US and NATO to the Ukrainian forces will play critical role in these combats in the Eastern front. I think the battle of Donbass will decide the outcome of this war, West has to and will win this one.

    'Battle of Donbas' has begun--Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelenskiy 

    "...Believe in our army, it is very strong," the Ukrainian president's chief of staff, Andriy Yermak. 

    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/ukraine-says-battle-donbas-has-begun-russia-pushing-east-2022-04-18/

    Helped by the tremendous support from US, UK and the NATO, the valiant and resolute Ukrainian forces should prevail over Russian forces. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Ukrainian forces are facing upcoming massive battles against Russians in the Eastern front. The supply of heavy weapons from US and NATO to the Ukrainian forces will play critical role in these combats in the Eastern front. I think the battle of Donbass will decide the outcome of this war, West has to and will win this one.

    'Battle of Donbas' has begun--Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelenskiy 

    "...Believe in our army, it is very strong," the Ukrainian president's chief of staff, Andriy Yermak. 

    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/ukraine-says-battle-donbas-has-begun-russia-pushing-east-2022-04-18/

    Helped by the tremendous support from US, UK and the NATO, the valiant and resolute Ukrainian forces should prevail over Russian forces. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    "...Believe in our army, it is very strong," the Ukrainian president's chief of staff, Andriy Yermak. 

    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/ukraine-says-battle-donbas-has-begun-russia-pushing-east-2022-04-18/

    Helped by the tremendous support from US, UK and the NATO, the valiant and resolute Ukrainian forces should prevail over Russian forces. 

    It's a must win, not just for Ukraine, but all of Europe and indeed the world.

    A russian victory and occupation will result in significantly elevated inflation levels all around the world for years!!   And/or it could also result in a full embargo on Russain oil & gas - which is *EVERYTHING* to the Russian economy.  And if/when that happens Russia will go full military using their threatened economy as a justifications for attackling other nations, then launch nuclear warheads after Nato gets involved.   France, Britain, and USA will respond in kind.   No joke.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    "...Believe in our army, it is very strong," the Ukrainian president's chief of staff, Andriy Yermak. 

    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/ukraine-says-battle-donbas-has-begun-russia-pushing-east-2022-04-18/

    Helped by the tremendous support from US, UK and the NATO, the valiant and resolute Ukrainian forces should prevail over Russian forces. 

    It's a must win, not just for Ukraine, but all of Europe and indeed the world.

    A russian victory and occupation will result in significantly elevated inflation levels all around the world for years!!   And/or it could also result in a full embargo on Russain oil & gas - which is *EVERYTHING* to the Russian economy.  And if/when that happens Russia will go full military using their threatened economy as a justifications for attackling other nations, then launch nuclear warheads after Nato gets involved.   France, Britain, and USA will respond in kind.   No joke.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    "...Believe in our army, it is very strong," the Ukrainian president's chief of staff, Andriy Yermak. 

    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/ukraine-says-battle-donbas-has-begun-russia-pushing-east-2022-04-18/

    Helped by the tremendous support from US, UK and the NATO, the valiant and resolute Ukrainian forces should prevail over Russian forces. 

     

     

    It's a must win, not just for Ukraine, but all of Europe and indeed the world.

    A russian victory and occupation will result in significantly elevated inflation levels all around the world for years!!   And/or it could also result in a full embargo on Russain oil & gas - which is *EVERYTHING* to the Russian economy.  And if/when that happens Russia will go full military using their threatened economy as a justifications for attackling other nations, then launch nuclear warheads after Nato gets involved.   France, Britain, and USA will respond in kind.   No joke.  

    I agree with both of you.   The world has yet to realize just how critical this event is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    "...Believe in our army, it is very strong," the Ukrainian president's chief of staff, Andriy Yermak. 

    https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/ukraine-says-battle-donbas-has-begun-russia-pushing-east-2022-04-18/

    Helped by the tremendous support from US, UK and the NATO, the valiant and resolute Ukrainian forces should prevail over Russian forces. 

     

     

    It's a must win, not just for Ukraine, but all of Europe and indeed the world.

    A russian victory and occupation will result in significantly elevated inflation levels all around the world for years!!   And/or it could also result in a full embargo on Russain oil & gas - which is *EVERYTHING* to the Russian economy.  And if/when that happens Russia will go full military using their threatened economy as a justifications for attackling other nations, then launch nuclear warheads after Nato gets involved.   France, Britain, and USA will respond in kind.   No joke.  

    I agree with both of you.   The world has yet to realize just how critical this event is.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2022 - 1:06 AM ET #1023

    The grave consequences of sanction and isolation, Russian airplane has to travel almost as twice of normal distance to retrieve it's expelled diplomats from Spain and Greece. Only because that many countries has banned Russian airlines to enter their aerospace.   

    Actual fight length 15,163 km vs normal circled length 7,995 km.  

    https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/russian-roundabout-a-long-way-to-go-for-some-expelled-diplomats/?fbclid=IwAR1UwhGDpRAGhldM5FG8g0WPO4eQ0CFhF9zJCb8YvP0f

    The economic sanctions and various bans vs Russian Federation will take heavy tolls to Putin's aggression against Ukraine.  

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    The grave consequences of sanction and isolation, Russian airplane has to travel almost as twice of normal distance to retrieve it's expelled diplomats from Spain and Greece. Only because that many countries has banned Russian airlines to enter their aerospace.   

    Actual fight length 15,163 km vs normal circled length 7,995 km.  

    https://www.flightradar24.com/blog/russian-roundabout-a-long-way-to-go-for-some-expelled-diplomats/?fbclid=IwAR1UwhGDpRAGhldM5FG8g0WPO4eQ0CFhF9zJCb8YvP0f

    The economic sanctions and various bans vs Russian Federation will take heavy tolls to Putin's aggression against Ukraine.  

     
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    There would be no reason for Putin to state sanctions were not working if they were ineffective. . Russia is feels ng the economic impact of the west closing trade with Moscow.

     

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    There would be no reason for Putin to state sanctions were not working if they were ineffective. . Russia is feels ng the economic impact of the west closing trade with Moscow.

     

     
     
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    According to British defense intelligence, Ukrainian forces have expelled numerous Russian attempted military advance on the Donbass line of control. Piece of encouraging news is welcome from West's perspective.  

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    According to British defense intelligence, Ukrainian forces have expelled numerous Russian attempted military advance on the Donbass line of control. Piece of encouraging news is welcome from West's perspective.  

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