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    Zeus4par
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2023 - 10:02 PM ET #2226

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Ukraine has lobbed missles at Russian cities. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/07/28/ukraine-is-lobbing-eight-ton-air-defense-missiles-at-russian-cities/?sh=1605b6a0348b Sometime before this month, the air force pulled obsolete S-200 surface-to-air missile systems out of long-term storage, apparently replaced the command-guidance units in their V-860/880 missiles with GPS seekers—thus converting them into surface-to-surface missiles—and began firing them at targets inside Russia. The Friday S-200 strike targeted Taganrog, a city on Russia’s Black Sea coast 20 miles from the border with Ukraine, and a hundred miles from the front line. A driver’s dashboard camera captured the eight-ton missile in the instant before it smashed into a city block, reportedly damaging a cafe and an apartment building and wounding a dozen people. The S-200 strike in Taganrog comes 19 days after the first confirmed strike by the same missile type. That attack damaged an industrial site in Bryansk, in Russia around 110 miles from the Ukrainian border

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    Ukraine has lobbed missles at Russian cities. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/07/28/ukraine-is-lobbing-eight-ton-air-defense-missiles-at-russian-cities/?sh=1605b6a0348b Sometime before this month, the air force pulled obsolete S-200 surface-to-air missile systems out of long-term storage, apparently replaced the command-guidance units in their V-860/880 missiles with GPS seekers—thus converting them into surface-to-surface missiles—and began firing them at targets inside Russia. The Friday S-200 strike targeted Taganrog, a city on Russia’s Black Sea coast 20 miles from the border with Ukraine, and a hundred miles from the front line. A driver’s dashboard camera captured the eight-ton missile in the instant before it smashed into a city block, reportedly damaging a cafe and an apartment building and wounding a dozen people. The S-200 strike in Taganrog comes 19 days after the first confirmed strike by the same missile type. That attack damaged an industrial site in Bryansk, in Russia around 110 miles from the Ukrainian border

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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2023 - 10:26 PM ET #2227

    Am I a threat to you and your cohorts ZEUS ? 

    I find it interesting you bump the thread with drivel.... an_light

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    Am I a threat to you and your cohorts ZEUS ? 

    I find it interesting you bump the thread with drivel.... an_light

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2023 - 10:29 PM ET #2228

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Ukraine has lobbed missles at Russian cities. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/07/28/ukraine-is-lobbing-eight-ton-air-defense-missiles-at-russian-cities/?sh=1605b6a0348b Sometime before this month, the air force pulled obsolete S-200 surface-to-air missile systems out of long-term storage, apparently replaced the command-guidance units in their V-860/880 missiles with GPS seekers—thus converting them into surface-to-surface missiles—and began firing them at targets inside Russia. The Friday S-200 strike targeted Taganrog, a city on Russia’s Black Sea coast 20 miles from the border with Ukraine, and a hundred miles from the front line. A driver’s dashboard camera captured the eight-ton missile in the instant before it smashed into a city block, reportedly damaging a cafe and an apartment building and wounding a dozen people. The S-200 strike in Taganrog comes 19 days after the first confirmed strike by the same missile type. That attack damaged an industrial site in Bryansk, in Russia around 110 miles from the Ukrainian border

    take the fight to them

    make them feel what its like

    best defense is a good offense   thumbs_up

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Ukraine has lobbed missles at Russian cities. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/07/28/ukraine-is-lobbing-eight-ton-air-defense-missiles-at-russian-cities/?sh=1605b6a0348b Sometime before this month, the air force pulled obsolete S-200 surface-to-air missile systems out of long-term storage, apparently replaced the command-guidance units in their V-860/880 missiles with GPS seekers—thus converting them into surface-to-surface missiles—and began firing them at targets inside Russia. The Friday S-200 strike targeted Taganrog, a city on Russia’s Black Sea coast 20 miles from the border with Ukraine, and a hundred miles from the front line. A driver’s dashboard camera captured the eight-ton missile in the instant before it smashed into a city block, reportedly damaging a cafe and an apartment building and wounding a dozen people. The S-200 strike in Taganrog comes 19 days after the first confirmed strike by the same missile type. That attack damaged an industrial site in Bryansk, in Russia around 110 miles from the Ukrainian border

    take the fight to them

    make them feel what its like

    best defense is a good offense   thumbs_up

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2023 - 10:29 PM ET #2229

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Ukraine has lobbed missles at Russian cities. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/07/28/ukraine-is-lobbing-eight-ton-air-defense-missiles-at-russian-cities/?sh=1605b6a0348b Sometime before this month, the air force pulled obsolete S-200 surface-to-air missile systems out of long-term storage, apparently replaced the command-guidance units in their V-860/880 missiles with GPS seekers—thus converting them into surface-to-surface missiles—and began firing them at targets inside Russia. The Friday S-200 strike targeted Taganrog, a city on Russia’s Black Sea coast 20 miles from the border with Ukraine, and a hundred miles from the front line. A driver’s dashboard camera captured the eight-ton missile in the instant before it smashed into a city block, reportedly damaging a cafe and an apartment building and wounding a dozen people. The S-200 strike in Taganrog comes 19 days after the first confirmed strike by the same missile type. That attack damaged an industrial site in Bryansk, in Russia around 110 miles from the Ukrainian border

    take the fight to them

    make them feel what its like

    best defense is a good offense   thumbs_up

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Ukraine has lobbed missles at Russian cities. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/07/28/ukraine-is-lobbing-eight-ton-air-defense-missiles-at-russian-cities/?sh=1605b6a0348b Sometime before this month, the air force pulled obsolete S-200 surface-to-air missile systems out of long-term storage, apparently replaced the command-guidance units in their V-860/880 missiles with GPS seekers—thus converting them into surface-to-surface missiles—and began firing them at targets inside Russia. The Friday S-200 strike targeted Taganrog, a city on Russia’s Black Sea coast 20 miles from the border with Ukraine, and a hundred miles from the front line. A driver’s dashboard camera captured the eight-ton missile in the instant before it smashed into a city block, reportedly damaging a cafe and an apartment building and wounding a dozen people. The S-200 strike in Taganrog comes 19 days after the first confirmed strike by the same missile type. That attack damaged an industrial site in Bryansk, in Russia around 110 miles from the Ukrainian border

    take the fight to them

    make them feel what its like

    best defense is a good offense   thumbs_up

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2023 - 10:33 PM ET #2230

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Ukraine has lobbed missles at Russian cities. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/07/28/ukraine-is-lobbing-eight-ton-air-defense-missiles-at-russian-cities/?sh=1605b6a0348b Sometime before this month, the air force pulled obsolete S-200 surface-to-air missile systems out of long-term storage, apparently replaced the command-guidance units in their V-860/880 missiles with GPS seekers—thus converting them into surface-to-surface missiles—and began firing them at targets inside Russia. The Friday S-200 strike targeted Taganrog, a city on Russia’s Black Sea coast 20 miles from the border with Ukraine, and a hundred miles from the front line. A driver’s dashboard camera captured the eight-ton missile in the instant before it smashed into a city block, reportedly damaging a cafe and an apartment building and wounding a dozen people. The S-200 strike in Taganrog comes 19 days after the first confirmed strike by the same missile type. That attack damaged an industrial site in Bryansk, in Russia around 110 miles from the Ukrainian border

     

     

    take the fight to them make them feel what its like best defense is a good offense

    It took a while but that was to shore up a defensive line in order to launch a  counter-offensive thumbs_up

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964:

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Ukraine has lobbed missles at Russian cities. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/07/28/ukraine-is-lobbing-eight-ton-air-defense-missiles-at-russian-cities/?sh=1605b6a0348b Sometime before this month, the air force pulled obsolete S-200 surface-to-air missile systems out of long-term storage, apparently replaced the command-guidance units in their V-860/880 missiles with GPS seekers—thus converting them into surface-to-surface missiles—and began firing them at targets inside Russia. The Friday S-200 strike targeted Taganrog, a city on Russia’s Black Sea coast 20 miles from the border with Ukraine, and a hundred miles from the front line. A driver’s dashboard camera captured the eight-ton missile in the instant before it smashed into a city block, reportedly damaging a cafe and an apartment building and wounding a dozen people. The S-200 strike in Taganrog comes 19 days after the first confirmed strike by the same missile type. That attack damaged an industrial site in Bryansk, in Russia around 110 miles from the Ukrainian border

     

     

    take the fight to them make them feel what its like best defense is a good offense

    It took a while but that was to shore up a defensive line in order to launch a  counter-offensive thumbs_up

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2023 - 11:18 PM ET #2231

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: It also appears that the NATO nations have renewed their vows to increase military spending to at least 2% GDP. You can thank Trump for pushing that.   No president before or hence has  pushed European members to pony up and spend on their military per NATO agreement.   Trump falsely claims credit for NATO increased spending.  In 2014, NATO agreed to increase military spending to 2% of GDP by 2024.  However under Trump, enemies don't fear and allies don't trust the US.  No other president has undermined US moral authority so much in foreign relations. @thirdperson Not only that but while I have long since given the convicted fraud/SEX OFFENDER for demanding more from Euro nations toward their 2% pledge,  fact is, MOST including Canada didn't heed trump's advice at all.  (most hate trump) But under Biden and admin efforts, the NATO nations have renewed their vow to reach 2%  and are very determined to do so this time (they like Biden) trump failed......Joe Biden succeeding What you dopey lefties don't realize is that Joe Biden's weakness made all this possible.  His weakness allowed war to break out in the first place,  scaring the $hit out of other NATO European members... so do you think they're going to ramp up military spending to the 2%GDP that was required in the first place?? You guys are so dopey.. giving credit to idiot Biden when his weak  policies set in motion for European members to fear for their own well being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: It also appears that the NATO nations have renewed their vows to increase military spending to at least 2% GDP. You can thank Trump for pushing that.   No president before or hence has  pushed European members to pony up and spend on their military per NATO agreement.   Trump falsely claims credit for NATO increased spending.  In 2014, NATO agreed to increase military spending to 2% of GDP by 2024.  However under Trump, enemies don't fear and allies don't trust the US.  No other president has undermined US moral authority so much in foreign relations. @thirdperson Not only that but while I have long since given the convicted fraud/SEX OFFENDER for demanding more from Euro nations toward their 2% pledge,  fact is, MOST including Canada didn't heed trump's advice at all.  (most hate trump) But under Biden and admin efforts, the NATO nations have renewed their vow to reach 2%  and are very determined to do so this time (they like Biden) trump failed......Joe Biden succeeding What you dopey lefties don't realize is that Joe Biden's weakness made all this possible.  His weakness allowed war to break out in the first place,  scaring the $hit out of other NATO European members... so do you think they're going to ramp up military spending to the 2%GDP that was required in the first place?? You guys are so dopey.. giving credit to idiot Biden when his weak  policies set in motion for European members to fear for their own well being.

    Any lefty response  ?? 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2023 - 11:23 PM ET #2232

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Ukraine potions Nato for member ship. Russia has continued to target Ukrainian cities this week with missile and drone strikes, including attacks for three nights in a row on the capital Kyiv.   Ukraine's air force said it had shot down about 20 Iran-made drones over the city's airspace on Thursday, hours after a Nato summit in Lithuania ended.   The two-day summit in Vilnius saw Western support for Ukraine at the top of the agenda.   Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky used his attendance to push for Ukrainian membership of the alliance, but was told this would only be possible "when allies agree and conditions are met".   This lack of a solid timeframe appeared to anger the Ukrainian president, who called it "absurd". He had earlier said there seemed to be "no readiness" to invite Ukraine to Nato or make it a member. The notion of adding a country to NATO  is silly  " after" said  country has already been invaded.   The NATO edict of "an attack on one is an attack on all" is supposed to have some weight and meaning to it.   * There is quite a difference between supporting a country in its war, and adding their membership to NATO. NATURE ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Ukraine potions Nato for member ship. Russia has continued to target Ukrainian cities this week with missile and drone strikes, including attacks for three nights in a row on the capital Kyiv.   Ukraine's air force said it had shot down about 20 Iran-made drones over the city's airspace on Thursday, hours after a Nato summit in Lithuania ended.   The two-day summit in Vilnius saw Western support for Ukraine at the top of the agenda.   Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky used his attendance to push for Ukrainian membership of the alliance, but was told this would only be possible "when allies agree and conditions are met".   This lack of a solid timeframe appeared to anger the Ukrainian president, who called it "absurd". He had earlier said there seemed to be "no readiness" to invite Ukraine to Nato or make it a member. The notion of adding a country to NATO  is silly  " after" said  country has already been invaded.   The NATO edict of "an attack on one is an attack on all" is supposed to have some weight and meaning to it.   * There is quite a difference between supporting a country in its war, and adding their membership to NATO. NATURE ??

    PAGING NATURE ?? 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2023 - 1:54 AM ET #2233

    Ukraine is moving it's Christmas Day holiday to Dec. 25 from Jan. 7. In an obvious act to abandon Russian Orthodox heritage and synchronize with Western world, Ukrainian pres. Volodymyr Zelenskyy has signed into a new law on Friday.*

    *https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/zelenskyy-ukraine-christmas-day-1.6922298#:~:text=Ukrainian%20President%20Volodymyr%20Zelenskyy%20on,by%20the%20Russian%20Orthodox%20Church.

     

     

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    Ukraine is moving it's Christmas Day holiday to Dec. 25 from Jan. 7. In an obvious act to abandon Russian Orthodox heritage and synchronize with Western world, Ukrainian pres. Volodymyr Zelenskyy has signed into a new law on Friday.*

    *https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/zelenskyy-ukraine-christmas-day-1.6922298#:~:text=Ukrainian%20President%20Volodymyr%20Zelenskyy%20on,by%20the%20Russian%20Orthodox%20Church.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2023 - 7:19 AM ET #2234

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Ukraine potions Nato for member ship. Russia has continued to target Ukrainian cities this week with missile and drone strikes, including attacks for three nights in a row on the capital Kyiv.   Ukraine's air force said it had shot down about 20 Iran-made drones over the city's airspace on Thursday, hours after a Nato summit in Lithuania ended.   The two-day summit in Vilnius saw Western support for Ukraine at the top of the agenda.   Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky used his attendance to push for Ukrainian membership of the alliance, but was told this would only be possible "when allies agree and conditions are met".   This lack of a solid timeframe appeared to anger the Ukrainian president, who called it "absurd". He had earlier said there seemed to be "no readiness" to invite Ukraine to Nato or make it a member. The notion of adding a country to NATO  is silly  " after" said  country has already been invaded.   The NATO edict of "an attack on one is an attack on all" is supposed to have some weight and meaning to it.   * There is quite a difference between supporting a country in its war, and adding their membership to NATO. NATURE ?? PAGING NATURE ??

    Rush you going to have sit down takes a slurp of your coffee cause your comrades have suffered staggering losses in Ukraine.

    The general staff of Ukraine’s armed forces has reported that Russia has lost 245,700 troops in Ukraine since the start of the war.

    According to the report, as of 9am (EET) on 30 July, Russia has also lost 4,205 tanks, 8,178 armoured fighting vehicles, 7,275 vehicles and fuel tanks, 4,795 artillery systems, 698 multiple-launch rocket systems, 459 air defence systems, 315 planes, 311 helicopters, 4,011 drones and 18 boats.

    These are indicative estimates of Russia’s combat losses since 24 February 2022

    Today Ukraine hit Moscow again with drones....

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Ukraine potions Nato for member ship. Russia has continued to target Ukrainian cities this week with missile and drone strikes, including attacks for three nights in a row on the capital Kyiv.   Ukraine's air force said it had shot down about 20 Iran-made drones over the city's airspace on Thursday, hours after a Nato summit in Lithuania ended.   The two-day summit in Vilnius saw Western support for Ukraine at the top of the agenda.   Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky used his attendance to push for Ukrainian membership of the alliance, but was told this would only be possible "when allies agree and conditions are met".   This lack of a solid timeframe appeared to anger the Ukrainian president, who called it "absurd". He had earlier said there seemed to be "no readiness" to invite Ukraine to Nato or make it a member. The notion of adding a country to NATO  is silly  " after" said  country has already been invaded.   The NATO edict of "an attack on one is an attack on all" is supposed to have some weight and meaning to it.   * There is quite a difference between supporting a country in its war, and adding their membership to NATO. NATURE ?? PAGING NATURE ??

    Rush you going to have sit down takes a slurp of your coffee cause your comrades have suffered staggering losses in Ukraine.

    The general staff of Ukraine’s armed forces has reported that Russia has lost 245,700 troops in Ukraine since the start of the war.

    According to the report, as of 9am (EET) on 30 July, Russia has also lost 4,205 tanks, 8,178 armoured fighting vehicles, 7,275 vehicles and fuel tanks, 4,795 artillery systems, 698 multiple-launch rocket systems, 459 air defence systems, 315 planes, 311 helicopters, 4,011 drones and 18 boats.

    These are indicative estimates of Russia’s combat losses since 24 February 2022

    Today Ukraine hit Moscow again with drones....

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2023 - 7:25 AM ET #2235

    The ongoing Russo-Ukrainian War has showcased key limitations in Russian military capabilities despite its quantitative manpower and material advantage over neighboring Ukraine - shedding light on preparedness, leadership, training, and supply issues. While it maintains its No.2 placement in the GFP index for the current year (despite material losses incurred in the months-long war), No.3 China is closing in on the spot mainly due to consistent strength in primary categories, expansion in critical categories, and its global financial reach.

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    The ongoing Russo-Ukrainian War has showcased key limitations in Russian military capabilities despite its quantitative manpower and material advantage over neighboring Ukraine - shedding light on preparedness, leadership, training, and supply issues. While it maintains its No.2 placement in the GFP index for the current year (despite material losses incurred in the months-long war), No.3 China is closing in on the spot mainly due to consistent strength in primary categories, expansion in critical categories, and its global financial reach.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2023 - 7:33 AM ET #2236

    If you can't supply your troops with equipment , bullets food shelter in the field you will continue to lose real-estate personal and equipment  on the ground and in the sea and sky....

    Latest round of Iranian drones will be online by the end of the month cause Russian equipment is junk they need to outsource production. Have prisooners fight and threatenn nuclear war...

    But all of that propaganda is not stopping the russian blood being spilt in the streets of ukraine.

    Or the fact Russia is losing this war due to poor supply lines demoralized army and has lost the will to fight in my own opinion. 

    And nothing tucker rants about really changes the facts that Ukraine will grind this out like blood and guts grant did in Vicksburg.....

     

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    If you can't supply your troops with equipment , bullets food shelter in the field you will continue to lose real-estate personal and equipment  on the ground and in the sea and sky....

    Latest round of Iranian drones will be online by the end of the month cause Russian equipment is junk they need to outsource production. Have prisooners fight and threatenn nuclear war...

    But all of that propaganda is not stopping the russian blood being spilt in the streets of ukraine.

    Or the fact Russia is losing this war due to poor supply lines demoralized army and has lost the will to fight in my own opinion. 

    And nothing tucker rants about really changes the facts that Ukraine will grind this out like blood and guts grant did in Vicksburg.....

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2023 - 7:34 AM ET #2237

    Ukrainian target goal maripol....50 miles from the front line and closing in on the new bakmut....

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    Ukrainian target goal maripol....50 miles from the front line and closing in on the new bakmut....

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2023 - 7:45 AM ET #2238

    In eastern Ukraine: In the Bakhmut area, the Ukrainian military has pushed Russian forces back almost to the village of Klishchiivka, Ukrainian serviceman Yevhen Kozhyrnov said on national television Saturday. 

    Kozhyrnov said the Ukrainian armed forces are moving on two flanks — north and south of Bakhmut. Over the past three days, a mechanized infantry brigade has advanced a little less than half a mile on the city's outskirts, pushing back the enemy and reaching an advantageous height to control access to Bakhmut, Klishchiivka and access roads to the village, he said.

     

    "Practically the whole of Klishchiivka is under fire, and this dictates a certain nature of the enemy's actions," Kozhyrnov said. "Our infantry is advancing heroically, very beautifully and very persistently, meter by meter, fighting for landings, for half landings, for every bush, there is progress."

    Kozhyrnov acknowledged "the advance is not fast," adding that Russian forces are "still fighting back."

     

    CNN cannot independently verify claims on battlefield developments from either side in the conflict.

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    In eastern Ukraine: In the Bakhmut area, the Ukrainian military has pushed Russian forces back almost to the village of Klishchiivka, Ukrainian serviceman Yevhen Kozhyrnov said on national television Saturday. 

    Kozhyrnov said the Ukrainian armed forces are moving on two flanks — north and south of Bakhmut. Over the past three days, a mechanized infantry brigade has advanced a little less than half a mile on the city's outskirts, pushing back the enemy and reaching an advantageous height to control access to Bakhmut, Klishchiivka and access roads to the village, he said.

     

    "Practically the whole of Klishchiivka is under fire, and this dictates a certain nature of the enemy's actions," Kozhyrnov said. "Our infantry is advancing heroically, very beautifully and very persistently, meter by meter, fighting for landings, for half landings, for every bush, there is progress."

    Kozhyrnov acknowledged "the advance is not fast," adding that Russian forces are "still fighting back."

     

    CNN cannot independently verify claims on battlefield developments from either side in the conflict.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2023 - 7:54 AM ET #2239

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has said he does not reject the idea of peace talks on Ukraine.

     

    Speaking after meeting African leaders in St Petersburg, he said African and Chinese initiatives could serve as a basis for finding peace.

     

    But Mr Putin also said there could be no ceasefire while the Ukrainian army was on the offensive.

     

    In the hours after he spoke, Russia said a Ukrainian drone attack on Moscow had damaged two office blocks.

     

    Flights were briefly suspended from Vnukovo Airport, south-west of the city centre, and one person was injured, Russia's state news agency Tass reported.

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    Russian President Vladimir Putin has said he does not reject the idea of peace talks on Ukraine.

     

    Speaking after meeting African leaders in St Petersburg, he said African and Chinese initiatives could serve as a basis for finding peace.

     

    But Mr Putin also said there could be no ceasefire while the Ukrainian army was on the offensive.

     

    In the hours after he spoke, Russia said a Ukrainian drone attack on Moscow had damaged two office blocks.

     

    Flights were briefly suspended from Vnukovo Airport, south-west of the city centre, and one person was injured, Russia's state news agency Tass reported.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2023 - 8:04 AM ET #2240

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Am I a threat to you and your cohorts ZEUS ?  I find it interesting you bump the thread with drivel....

     

    This is the threat Russia faces.

    Small attack drones armed with 2=4 pound bomb able to go 0 to 130 moh in a second....

    Their defense was designed to counter f16 sized air craft. These slip through the paremetwrs of air defense cheqp to build and made in ukraine by onewat aerospace manufacturing plants.

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    Am I a threat to you and your cohorts ZEUS ?  I find it interesting you bump the thread with drivel....

     

    This is the threat Russia faces.

    Small attack drones armed with 2=4 pound bomb able to go 0 to 130 moh in a second....

    Their defense was designed to counter f16 sized air craft. These slip through the paremetwrs of air defense cheqp to build and made in ukraine by onewat aerospace manufacturing plants.

     
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    Emblem of Soviet hammer and sickle is getting out of Kiev. 

    It will be replaced by the Trident emblem. Also coincidentally, U.S. Ohio class nuclear submarines carry multiple powerful Trident missiles which have the operational range of 7,500 miles.  

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    Emblem of Soviet hammer and sickle is getting out of Kiev. 

    It will be replaced by the Trident emblem. Also coincidentally, U.S. Ohio class nuclear submarines carry multiple powerful Trident missiles which have the operational range of 7,500 miles.  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Ukraine potions Nato for member ship. Russia has continued to target Ukrainian cities this week with missile and drone strikes, including attacks for three nights in a row on the capital Kyiv.   Ukraine's air force said it had shot down about 20 Iran-made drones over the city's airspace on Thursday, hours after a Nato summit in Lithuania ended.   The two-day summit in Vilnius saw Western support for Ukraine at the top of the agenda.   Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky used his attendance to push for Ukrainian membership of the alliance, but was told this would only be possible "when allies agree and conditions are met".   This lack of a solid timeframe appeared to anger the Ukrainian president, who called it "absurd". He had earlier said there seemed to be "no readiness" to invite Ukraine to Nato or make it a member. The notion of adding a country to NATO  is silly  " after" said  country has already been invaded.   The NATO edict of "an attack on one is an attack on all" is supposed to have some weight and meaning to it.   * There is quite a difference between supporting a country in its war, and adding their membership to NATO. NATURE ?? PAGING NATURE ?? Rush you going to have sit down takes a slurp of your coffee cause your comrades have suffered staggering losses in Ukraine. The general staff of Ukraine’s armed forces has reported that Russia has lost 245,700 troops in Ukraine since the start of the war. According to the report, as of 9am (EET) on 30 July, Russia has also lost 4,205 tanks, 8,178 armoured fighting vehicles, 7,275 vehicles and fuel tanks, 4,795 artillery systems, 698 multiple-launch rocket systems, 459 air defence systems, 315 planes, 311 helicopters, 4,011 drones and 18 boats. These are indicative estimates of Russia’s combat losses since 24 February 2022 Today Ukraine hit Moscow again with drones....

    Nature, you're going to have to start paying attention more... 

     

    I can be for Ukraine, and against your dopey President for his weakness in letting war break out in the first place. 

    What differentiates me from you is that you're willing to spend countless Billions more of our taxpayer $$s to fund this war.  

     

    Both of the above can be true, so wake up !  an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Ukraine potions Nato for member ship. Russia has continued to target Ukrainian cities this week with missile and drone strikes, including attacks for three nights in a row on the capital Kyiv.   Ukraine's air force said it had shot down about 20 Iran-made drones over the city's airspace on Thursday, hours after a Nato summit in Lithuania ended.   The two-day summit in Vilnius saw Western support for Ukraine at the top of the agenda.   Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky used his attendance to push for Ukrainian membership of the alliance, but was told this would only be possible "when allies agree and conditions are met".   This lack of a solid timeframe appeared to anger the Ukrainian president, who called it "absurd". He had earlier said there seemed to be "no readiness" to invite Ukraine to Nato or make it a member. The notion of adding a country to NATO  is silly  " after" said  country has already been invaded.   The NATO edict of "an attack on one is an attack on all" is supposed to have some weight and meaning to it.   * There is quite a difference between supporting a country in its war, and adding their membership to NATO. NATURE ?? PAGING NATURE ?? Rush you going to have sit down takes a slurp of your coffee cause your comrades have suffered staggering losses in Ukraine. The general staff of Ukraine’s armed forces has reported that Russia has lost 245,700 troops in Ukraine since the start of the war. According to the report, as of 9am (EET) on 30 July, Russia has also lost 4,205 tanks, 8,178 armoured fighting vehicles, 7,275 vehicles and fuel tanks, 4,795 artillery systems, 698 multiple-launch rocket systems, 459 air defence systems, 315 planes, 311 helicopters, 4,011 drones and 18 boats. These are indicative estimates of Russia’s combat losses since 24 February 2022 Today Ukraine hit Moscow again with drones....

    Nature, you're going to have to start paying attention more... 

     

    I can be for Ukraine, and against your dopey President for his weakness in letting war break out in the first place. 

    What differentiates me from you is that you're willing to spend countless Billions more of our taxpayer $$s to fund this war.  

     

    Both of the above can be true, so wake up !  an_light

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Ukraine is moving it's Christmas Day holiday to Dec. 25 from Jan. 7. In an obvious act to abandon Russian Orthodox heritage and synchronize with Western world,

    Ukrainian pres. Volodymyr Zelenskyy has signed into a new law on Friday.* *https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/zelenskyy-ukraine-christmas-day-1.6922298#:~:text=Ukrainian%20President%20Volodymyr%20Zelenskyy%20on,by%20the%20Russian%20Orthodox%20Church.

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    Ukraine is moving it's Christmas Day holiday to Dec. 25 from Jan. 7. In an obvious act to abandon Russian Orthodox heritage and synchronize with Western world,

    Ukrainian pres. Volodymyr Zelenskyy has signed into a new law on Friday.* *https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/zelenskyy-ukraine-christmas-day-1.6922298#:~:text=Ukrainian%20President%20Volodymyr%20Zelenskyy%20on,by%20the%20Russian%20Orthodox%20Church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Ukraine potions Nato for member ship. Russia has continued to target Ukrainian cities this week with missile and drone strikes, including attacks for three nights in a row on the capital Kyiv.   Ukraine's air force said it had shot down about 20 Iran-made drones over the city's airspace on Thursday, hours after a Nato summit in Lithuania ended.   The two-day summit in Vilnius saw Western support for Ukraine at the top of the agenda.   Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky used his attendance to push for Ukrainian membership of the alliance, but was told this would only be possible "when allies agree and conditions are met".   This lack of a solid timeframe appeared to anger the Ukrainian president, who called it "absurd". He had earlier said there seemed to be "no readiness" to invite Ukraine to Nato or make it a member. The notion of adding a country to NATO  is silly  " after" said  country has already been invaded.   The NATO edict of "an attack on one is an attack on all" is supposed to have some weight and meaning to it.   * There is quite a difference between supporting a country in its war, and adding their membership to NATO. NATURE ?? PAGING NATURE ?? Rush you going to have sit down takes a slurp of your coffee cause your comrades have suffered staggering losses in Ukraine. The general staff of Ukraine’s armed forces has reported that Russia has lost 245,700 troops in Ukraine since the start of the war. According to the report, as of 9am (EET) on 30 July, Russia has also lost 4,205 tanks, 8,178 armoured fighting vehicles, 7,275 vehicles and fuel tanks, 4,795 artillery systems, 698 multiple-launch rocket systems, 459 air defence systems, 315 planes, 311 helicopters, 4,011 drones and 18 boats. These are indicative estimates of Russia’s combat losses since 24 February 2022 Today Ukraine hit Moscow again with drones.... Nature, you're going to have to start paying attention more...    I can be for Ukraine, and against your dopey President for his weakness in letting war break out in the first place.  What differentiates me from you is that you're willing to spend countless Billions more of our taxpayer $$s to fund this war.     Both of the above can be true, so wake up !

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    Glad to hear it... 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rush51:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by Rush51: Quote Originally Posted by nature1970: Ukraine potions Nato for member ship. Russia has continued to target Ukrainian cities this week with missile and drone strikes, including attacks for three nights in a row on the capital Kyiv.   Ukraine's air force said it had shot down about 20 Iran-made drones over the city's airspace on Thursday, hours after a Nato summit in Lithuania ended.   The two-day summit in Vilnius saw Western support for Ukraine at the top of the agenda.   Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky used his attendance to push for Ukrainian membership of the alliance, but was told this would only be possible "when allies agree and conditions are met".   This lack of a solid timeframe appeared to anger the Ukrainian president, who called it "absurd". He had earlier said there seemed to be "no readiness" to invite Ukraine to Nato or make it a member. The notion of adding a country to NATO  is silly  " after" said  country has already been invaded.   The NATO edict of "an attack on one is an attack on all" is supposed to have some weight and meaning to it.   * There is quite a difference between supporting a country in its war, and adding their membership to NATO. NATURE ?? PAGING NATURE ?? Rush you going to have sit down takes a slurp of your coffee cause your comrades have suffered staggering losses in Ukraine. The general staff of Ukraine’s armed forces has reported that Russia has lost 245,700 troops in Ukraine since the start of the war. According to the report, as of 9am (EET) on 30 July, Russia has also lost 4,205 tanks, 8,178 armoured fighting vehicles, 7,275 vehicles and fuel tanks, 4,795 artillery systems, 698 multiple-launch rocket systems, 459 air defence systems, 315 planes, 311 helicopters, 4,011 drones and 18 boats. These are indicative estimates of Russia’s combat losses since 24 February 2022 Today Ukraine hit Moscow again with drones.... Nature, you're going to have to start paying attention more...    I can be for Ukraine, and against your dopey President for his weakness in letting war break out in the first place.  What differentiates me from you is that you're willing to spend countless Billions more of our taxpayer $$s to fund this war.     Both of the above can be true, so wake up !

    peace_5

    Glad to hear it... 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 1, 2023 - 9:38 PM ET #2245

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Emblem of Soviet hammer and sickle is getting out of Kiev.  It will be replaced by the Trident emblem. Also coincidentally, U.S. Ohio class nuclear submarines carry multiple powerful Trident missiles which have the operational range of 7,500 miles.

     

    Trident nuclear.missle.

    How powerful are Trident nuclear missiles?

    Only one submarine may be deployed at a time; however, each can carry up to eight Trident missiles. The other submarines are either being utilized for training or undergoing repair. The maximum range of a Trident missile is 7,500 miles, and its destructive power is equal to that of eight Hiroshimas.Oct 28, 202

    UK has this on-board submarine.  The missle is American the war head is made in United Kingdom. 

     

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    Emblem of Soviet hammer and sickle is getting out of Kiev.  It will be replaced by the Trident emblem. Also coincidentally, U.S. Ohio class nuclear submarines carry multiple powerful Trident missiles which have the operational range of 7,500 miles.

     

    Trident nuclear.missle.

    How powerful are Trident nuclear missiles?

    Only one submarine may be deployed at a time; however, each can carry up to eight Trident missiles. The other submarines are either being utilized for training or undergoing repair. The maximum range of a Trident missile is 7,500 miles, and its destructive power is equal to that of eight Hiroshimas.Oct 28, 202

    UK has this on-board submarine.  The missle is American the war head is made in United Kingdom. 

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2023 - 5:17 AM ET #2246

    Arrest warrant issued for Putin for war crimes. 

    AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - A large number of prisoners held in makeshift detention centres in Russian-occupied southern Ukraine were tortured and sexually violated, a team of international experts said on Wednesday in a summary of their latest findings.

     

    The Mobile Justice Team, established by the international humanitarian law firm Global Rights Compliance, has worked with Ukrainian war crimes prosecutors in the Kherson region since it was reclaimed in November after more than eight months under Russian control.

     

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    Arrest warrant issued for Putin for war crimes. 

    AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - A large number of prisoners held in makeshift detention centres in Russian-occupied southern Ukraine were tortured and sexually violated, a team of international experts said on Wednesday in a summary of their latest findings.

     

    The Mobile Justice Team, established by the international humanitarian law firm Global Rights Compliance, has worked with Ukrainian war crimes prosecutors in the Kherson region since it was reclaimed in November after more than eight months under Russian control.

     

     
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    Awfully quiet in here. Maybe this has something to do with it;

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/08/politics/ukraine-counteroffensive-us-briefings/index.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/08/20/ukraine-counteroffensive-analysis-war-russia/

    https://time.com/6176748/ukraine-war-economy/

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-losing-4-5-men-advance-hundreds-feet-2023-7?op=1

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66542065

    Russian soldiers can't fight, Russia is almost out of ammo, don't stop til Putin is gone, sanctions are crippling Russia. lie

    Such idiots in the world and in both political parties.

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    Awfully quiet in here. Maybe this has something to do with it;

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/08/politics/ukraine-counteroffensive-us-briefings/index.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/08/20/ukraine-counteroffensive-analysis-war-russia/

    https://time.com/6176748/ukraine-war-economy/

    https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-losing-4-5-men-advance-hundreds-feet-2023-7?op=1

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66542065

    Russian soldiers can't fight, Russia is almost out of ammo, don't stop til Putin is gone, sanctions are crippling Russia. lie

    Such idiots in the world and in both political parties.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 6:57 PM ET #2248

    Wise man tells it like it is.

    https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1693761723230990509?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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    Wise man tells it like it is.

    https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1693761723230990509?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

     
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    Ukrainian 575 reeper destroys nuclear equipped t22 fighter . This was not in sky but on a base. 

     

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    Ukrainian 575 reeper destroys nuclear equipped t22 fighter . This was not in sky but on a base. 

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Wise man tells it like it is. https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1693761723230990509?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

    Wow Colonel MacGregor knows his shit!

    Just imagine him debating with the state controlled media shills here. OMG they'd get humiliated!an_hammer..but they do everyday and are just too brainwashed or stupid to realize itan_roll_laugh

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Wise man tells it like it is. https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1693761723230990509?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

    Wow Colonel MacGregor knows his shit!

    Just imagine him debating with the state controlled media shills here. OMG they'd get humiliated!an_hammer..but they do everyday and are just too brainwashed or stupid to realize itan_roll_laugh

     

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