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    Trump waiting to sign legislation

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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2018 - 10:01 PM ET #1

    This lame duck session the sentencing structure of non violent offenses that will allow 2600 federal inmates release is getting ready to be passed.

    He most retroactive is to find crack sentences match coke sentences minimumsentencing restructure for drug offenses . But these won't be retroactive and those sentenced will stay at current sentencing levels.

    We have the highest incarceration levels in the world per citizen.....

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    This lame duck session the sentencing structure of non violent offenses that will allow 2600 federal inmates release is getting ready to be passed.

    He most retroactive is to find crack sentences match coke sentences minimumsentencing restructure for drug offenses . But these won't be retroactive and those sentenced will stay at current sentencing levels.

    We have the highest incarceration levels in the world per citizen.....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2018 - 10:29 PM ET #2

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    This lame duck session the sentencing structure of non violent offenses that will allow 2600 federal inmates release is getting ready to be passed.

    He most retroactive is to find crack sentences match coke sentences minimumsentencing restructure for drug offenses . But these won't be retroactive and those sentenced will stay at current sentencing levels.

    We have the highest incarceration levels in the world per citizen.....


    Just think what the levels would be if rich people went to jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    This lame duck session the sentencing structure of non violent offenses that will allow 2600 federal inmates release is getting ready to be passed.

    He most retroactive is to find crack sentences match coke sentences minimumsentencing restructure for drug offenses . But these won't be retroactive and those sentenced will stay at current sentencing levels.

    We have the highest incarceration levels in the world per citizen.....


    Just think what the levels would be if rich people went to jail.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2018 - 5:02 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    This lame duck session the sentencing structure of non violent offenses that will allow 2600 federal inmates release is getting ready to be passed. He most retroactive is to find crack sentences match coke sentences minimumsentencing restructure for drug offenses . But these won't be retroactive and those sentenced will stay at current sentencing levels. We have the highest incarceration levels in the world per citizen.....
    Just think what the levels would be if rich people went to jail.
    You can't do that man. As it is we don't have enough room in the country club federal minimum security prisons for the white color (pardon me, collar)  criminals convicted now. Trump will give a ton of them a pardon or commutation as he heads out the door. He will probably call it "relieving the overcrowding in the prison system". Some have enough stashed away to celebrate at Trump golf resorts.

    bigsmile

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    This lame duck session the sentencing structure of non violent offenses that will allow 2600 federal inmates release is getting ready to be passed. He most retroactive is to find crack sentences match coke sentences minimumsentencing restructure for drug offenses . But these won't be retroactive and those sentenced will stay at current sentencing levels. We have the highest incarceration levels in the world per citizen.....
    Just think what the levels would be if rich people went to jail.
    You can't do that man. As it is we don't have enough room in the country club federal minimum security prisons for the white color (pardon me, collar)  criminals convicted now. Trump will give a ton of them a pardon or commutation as he heads out the door. He will probably call it "relieving the overcrowding in the prison system". Some have enough stashed away to celebrate at Trump golf resorts.

    bigsmile

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2018 - 5:49 PM ET #4

    Waiting?

     

    I think Trump is too busy calling reasonable people like Tillerson abusive names and degrading the office on twitter because his tushy is hurt.

    Tillerson is a corporate hack and one of the elite dummy group but Trump is again off his meds in how he abused the guy, but who didnt already know that Trump is a disgusting, degrading little ego moron?

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    Waiting?

     

    I think Trump is too busy calling reasonable people like Tillerson abusive names and degrading the office on twitter because his tushy is hurt.

    Tillerson is a corporate hack and one of the elite dummy group but Trump is again off his meds in how he abused the guy, but who didnt already know that Trump is a disgusting, degrading little ego moron?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2018 - 5:58 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Waiting?

     

    I think Trump is too busy calling reasonable people like Tillerson abusive names and degrading the office on twitter because his tushy is hurt.

    Tillerson is a corporate hack and one of the elite dummy group but Trump is again off his meds in how he abused the guy, but who didnt already know that Trump is a disgusting, degrading little ego moron?


    Careful WSC, I've seen you get attacked for posts like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Waiting?

     

    I think Trump is too busy calling reasonable people like Tillerson abusive names and degrading the office on twitter because his tushy is hurt.

    Tillerson is a corporate hack and one of the elite dummy group but Trump is again off his meds in how he abused the guy, but who didnt already know that Trump is a disgusting, degrading little ego moron?


    Careful WSC, I've seen you get attacked for posts like this.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2018 - 6:15 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Waiting?   I think Trump is too busy calling reasonable people like Tillerson abusive names and degrading the office on twitter because his tushy is hurt. Tillerson is a corporate hack and one of the elite dummy group but Trump is again off his meds in how he abused the guy, but who didnt already know that Trump is a disgusting, degrading little ego moron?
    Careful WSC, I've seen you get attacked for posts like this.

    Yeah the DEMS ARE BAD TOO posts will be flowing but it wont change the fact that Trump is really a lousy person...he lacks any sense of class and if you read some of the comments Tillerson made about Trump, the guy comes off as unintelligent, head strong and ill-equipped to be in this position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Waiting?   I think Trump is too busy calling reasonable people like Tillerson abusive names and degrading the office on twitter because his tushy is hurt. Tillerson is a corporate hack and one of the elite dummy group but Trump is again off his meds in how he abused the guy, but who didnt already know that Trump is a disgusting, degrading little ego moron?
    Careful WSC, I've seen you get attacked for posts like this.

    Yeah the DEMS ARE BAD TOO posts will be flowing but it wont change the fact that Trump is really a lousy person...he lacks any sense of class and if you read some of the comments Tillerson made about Trump, the guy comes off as unintelligent, head strong and ill-equipped to be in this position.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2018 - 7:38 PM ET #7

    Tillerson who left the State Dept in shambles........comes off like... just another disgruntled former employee...
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    Tillerson who left the State Dept in shambles........comes off like... just another disgruntled former employee...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2018 - 8:28 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Tillerson who left the State Dept in shambles........comes off like... just another disgruntled former employee...

    And this justifies the little ego abuse retort?? 

    Did you actually read what Tillerson said? He is credible, intelligent and spot on. I read what he said and it makes 100% sense to me. He wasnt degrading Trump or making little childish insults...what he said fits Trump exactly.

    So when someone is critical of Trump's organizational skills, lack of detail and rash decision making processes then it is ok to attack?

    I can see why you personally would agree with how Trump handled the situation, fits right in with how you have handled yourself many times over the many years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Tillerson who left the State Dept in shambles........comes off like... just another disgruntled former employee...

    And this justifies the little ego abuse retort?? 

    Did you actually read what Tillerson said? He is credible, intelligent and spot on. I read what he said and it makes 100% sense to me. He wasnt degrading Trump or making little childish insults...what he said fits Trump exactly.

    So when someone is critical of Trump's organizational skills, lack of detail and rash decision making processes then it is ok to attack?

    I can see why you personally would agree with how Trump handled the situation, fits right in with how you have handled yourself many times over the many years.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2018 - 11:05 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    And this justifies the little ego abuse retort?? 

    Did you actually read what Tillerson said? He is credible, intelligent and spot on. I read what he said and it makes 100% sense to me. He wasnt degrading Trump or making little childish insults...what he said fits Trump exactly.

    So when someone is critical of Trump's organizational skills, lack of detail and rash decision making processes then it is ok to attack?

    I can see why you personally would agree with how Trump handled the situation, fits right in with how you have handled yourself many times over the many years.


    No need to change the direction of this thread and make it about me...WSC'er's.   Nevertheless,, this has been your MO these many years,, so you are probably not able to change..
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    And this justifies the little ego abuse retort?? 

    Did you actually read what Tillerson said? He is credible, intelligent and spot on. I read what he said and it makes 100% sense to me. He wasnt degrading Trump or making little childish insults...what he said fits Trump exactly.

    So when someone is critical of Trump's organizational skills, lack of detail and rash decision making processes then it is ok to attack?

    I can see why you personally would agree with how Trump handled the situation, fits right in with how you have handled yourself many times over the many years.


    No need to change the direction of this thread and make it about me...WSC'er's.   Nevertheless,, this has been your MO these many years,, so you are probably not able to change..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2018 - 1:19 AM ET #10

    The reason the left defend T-Rex and call him a good guy is because it was revealed ,,that he called Trump a "fxxxing moron" He's the one that started with the abusive names toward President Trump..

    It's plain and simple Tellerson displayed managerial incompetence as head of the State Dept..it's said that he wrecked the State Dept leaving it hollow and in tatters.

    Experts across the political spectrum say the damage he did could last a generation.

    60 % of State’s top-ranking career diplomats resigned and new applications to join the foreign service fell by half...This hollowed out of the foreign service..


    After the mess Rex Tiillerson created at the State Dept....he will go down as the worst Secretary of State in resent memory..His tenure was a flat-out debacle....

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    The reason the left defend T-Rex and call him a good guy is because it was revealed ,,that he called Trump a "fxxxing moron" He's the one that started with the abusive names toward President Trump..

    It's plain and simple Tellerson displayed managerial incompetence as head of the State Dept..it's said that he wrecked the State Dept leaving it hollow and in tatters.

    Experts across the political spectrum say the damage he did could last a generation.

    60 % of State’s top-ranking career diplomats resigned and new applications to join the foreign service fell by half...This hollowed out of the foreign service..


    After the mess Rex Tiillerson created at the State Dept....he will go down as the worst Secretary of State in resent memory..His tenure was a flat-out debacle....

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2018 - 9:57 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    And this justifies the little ego abuse retort??  Did you actually read what Tillerson said? He is credible, intelligent and spot on. I read what he said and it makes 100% sense to me. He wasnt degrading Trump or making little childish insults...what he said fits Trump exactly. So when someone is critical of Trump's organizational skills, lack of detail and rash decision making processes then it is ok to attack? I can see why you personally would agree with how Trump handled the situation, fits right in with how you have handled yourself many times over the many years.
    No need to change the direction of this thread and make it about me...WSC'er's.   Nevertheless,, this has been your MO these many years,, so you are probably not able to change..

    You sound like my teenage kid with these weak retorts. Way to use one line from a multi paragraph reply and ignore the depth of the message. 

    Did you read the comments Tillerson made about Trump? To me they sounded exactly like other comments made by people on his staff at some point and exactly like his style/approach.

    YET that wasnt even the issue, if Trump did that or if Tillerson was a lousy guy...I have not seen anywhere that the LEFT was so thrilled with Tillerson, that must be from some slanted website you follow or tv show you watch. The ISSUE was how Trump handled a situation he did not LIKE...he was offended so he slanders someone and acts like a bully punk. THAT is the issue and you have not addressed that issue, as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    And this justifies the little ego abuse retort??  Did you actually read what Tillerson said? He is credible, intelligent and spot on. I read what he said and it makes 100% sense to me. He wasnt degrading Trump or making little childish insults...what he said fits Trump exactly. So when someone is critical of Trump's organizational skills, lack of detail and rash decision making processes then it is ok to attack? I can see why you personally would agree with how Trump handled the situation, fits right in with how you have handled yourself many times over the many years.
    No need to change the direction of this thread and make it about me...WSC'er's.   Nevertheless,, this has been your MO these many years,, so you are probably not able to change..

    You sound like my teenage kid with these weak retorts. Way to use one line from a multi paragraph reply and ignore the depth of the message. 

    Did you read the comments Tillerson made about Trump? To me they sounded exactly like other comments made by people on his staff at some point and exactly like his style/approach.

    YET that wasnt even the issue, if Trump did that or if Tillerson was a lousy guy...I have not seen anywhere that the LEFT was so thrilled with Tillerson, that must be from some slanted website you follow or tv show you watch. The ISSUE was how Trump handled a situation he did not LIKE...he was offended so he slanders someone and acts like a bully punk. THAT is the issue and you have not addressed that issue, as usual.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    You sound like my teenage kid with these weak retorts. Way to use one line from a multi paragraph reply and ignore the depth of the message. 

    Did you read the comments Tillerson made about Trump? To me they sounded exactly like other comments made by people on his staff at some point and exactly like his style/approach.

    YET that wasnt even the issue, if Trump did that or if Tillerson was a lousy guy...I have not seen anywhere that the LEFT was so thrilled with Tillerson, that must be from some slanted website you follow or tv show you watch. The ISSUE was how Trump handled a situation he did not LIKE...he was offended so he slanders someone and acts like a bully punk. THAT is the issue and you have not addressed that issue, as usual.


    There you go ..first thing out of the chute... making it about me..

    You really can't stop ...can you ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    You sound like my teenage kid with these weak retorts. Way to use one line from a multi paragraph reply and ignore the depth of the message. 

    Did you read the comments Tillerson made about Trump? To me they sounded exactly like other comments made by people on his staff at some point and exactly like his style/approach.

    YET that wasnt even the issue, if Trump did that or if Tillerson was a lousy guy...I have not seen anywhere that the LEFT was so thrilled with Tillerson, that must be from some slanted website you follow or tv show you watch. The ISSUE was how Trump handled a situation he did not LIKE...he was offended so he slanders someone and acts like a bully punk. THAT is the issue and you have not addressed that issue, as usual.


    There you go ..first thing out of the chute... making it about me..

    You really can't stop ...can you ?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2018 - 2:05 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    You sound like my teenage kid with these weak retorts. Way to use one line from a multi paragraph reply and ignore the depth of the message.  Did you read the comments Tillerson made about Trump? To me they sounded exactly like other comments made by people on his staff at some point and exactly like his style/approach. YET that wasnt even the issue, if Trump did that or if Tillerson was a lousy guy...I have not seen anywhere that the LEFT was so thrilled with Tillerson, that must be from some slanted website you follow or tv show you watch. The ISSUE was how Trump handled a situation he did not LIKE...he was offended so he slanders someone and acts like a bully punk. THAT is the issue and you have not addressed that issue, as usual.
    There you go ..first thing out of the chute... making it about me.. You really can't stop ...can you ?

    Are you ever able to answer on topic questions and stop playing these dumb games?

    Did you read the remarks from Tillerson about Trump and the issues he had to deal with? And does his disagreement with Trump warrant how Trump responded and attacked him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    You sound like my teenage kid with these weak retorts. Way to use one line from a multi paragraph reply and ignore the depth of the message.  Did you read the comments Tillerson made about Trump? To me they sounded exactly like other comments made by people on his staff at some point and exactly like his style/approach. YET that wasnt even the issue, if Trump did that or if Tillerson was a lousy guy...I have not seen anywhere that the LEFT was so thrilled with Tillerson, that must be from some slanted website you follow or tv show you watch. The ISSUE was how Trump handled a situation he did not LIKE...he was offended so he slanders someone and acts like a bully punk. THAT is the issue and you have not addressed that issue, as usual.
    There you go ..first thing out of the chute... making it about me.. You really can't stop ...can you ?

    Are you ever able to answer on topic questions and stop playing these dumb games?

    Did you read the remarks from Tillerson about Trump and the issues he had to deal with? And does his disagreement with Trump warrant how Trump responded and attacked him?

    an_light

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2018 - 3:18 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    There you go ..first thing out of the chute... making it about me.. You really can't stop ...can you ?

    Are you ever able to answer on topic questions and stop playing these dumb games?

    Did you read the remarks from Tillerson about Trump and the issues he had to deal with? And does his disagreement with Trump warrant how Trump responded and attacked him?

    an_light


    Are you capable of debating someone with an opposing view without a dig or criticizing them with amateurish put downs ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    There you go ..first thing out of the chute... making it about me.. You really can't stop ...can you ?

    Are you ever able to answer on topic questions and stop playing these dumb games?

    Did you read the remarks from Tillerson about Trump and the issues he had to deal with? And does his disagreement with Trump warrant how Trump responded and attacked him?

    an_light


    Are you capable of debating someone with an opposing view without a dig or criticizing them with amateurish put downs ?


     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2018 - 4:36 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    There you go ..first thing out of the chute... making it about me.. You really can't stop ...can you ? Are you ever able to answer on topic questions and stop playing these dumb games? Did you read the remarks from Tillerson about Trump and the issues he had to deal with? And does his disagreement with Trump warrant how Trump responded and attacked him?
    Are you capable of debating someone with an opposing view without a dig or criticizing them with amateurish put downs ?

    The GAMES you play are dumb, like this one...I keep asking the same question over and over and over with you and you do nothing but deflect and nit pick. So if you dont like that I say the games are dumb just answer the ON TOPIC question and move along.

    This is comical, but its how you always are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    There you go ..first thing out of the chute... making it about me.. You really can't stop ...can you ? Are you ever able to answer on topic questions and stop playing these dumb games? Did you read the remarks from Tillerson about Trump and the issues he had to deal with? And does his disagreement with Trump warrant how Trump responded and attacked him?
    Are you capable of debating someone with an opposing view without a dig or criticizing them with amateurish put downs ?

    The GAMES you play are dumb, like this one...I keep asking the same question over and over and over with you and you do nothing but deflect and nit pick. So if you dont like that I say the games are dumb just answer the ON TOPIC question and move along.

    This is comical, but its how you always are.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2018 - 4:59 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Tillerson who left the State Dept in shambles........comes off like... just another disgruntled former employee...
    Tillerson is actually an impressive engineer who has negotiated incredible deals for exxon/mobile for nearly 20 years he is a billionaire.  Trump had an incredible cabinet yet his own need to be the center of attention and inability to have any faith in his staff has made his once dream team into a bunch of 2nd string ads kissing nobodies. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Tillerson who left the State Dept in shambles........comes off like... just another disgruntled former employee...
    Tillerson is actually an impressive engineer who has negotiated incredible deals for exxon/mobile for nearly 20 years he is a billionaire.  Trump had an incredible cabinet yet his own need to be the center of attention and inability to have any faith in his staff has made his once dream team into a bunch of 2nd string ads kissing nobodies. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2018 - 5:49 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Are you capable of debating someone with an opposing view without a dig or criticizing them with amateurish put downs ?

    The GAMES you play are dumb, like this one...I keep asking the same question over and over and over with you and you do nothing but deflect and nit pick. So if you dont like that I say the games are dumb just answer the ON TOPIC question and move along.

    This is comical, but its how you always are.


    You do not want a discussion ...you only want to make it about me and use insults...Since you are sitting in the bully pulpit ..if I were to do the same to you ...I would be boxed..

    When you are ready to discuss a topic without the digs and slams we can talk otherwise ..all your questions will go unanswered..

    As far as the topic questions which topic are you referring to ?

    The thread topic is "Trump waiting to sign legislation" not the one you sidetracked it to...Tillerson...in post #4..

    Looks like KeyElement comment about " no such thing in this forum as staying on subject past the fourth or fifth post" has some validity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Are you capable of debating someone with an opposing view without a dig or criticizing them with amateurish put downs ?

    The GAMES you play are dumb, like this one...I keep asking the same question over and over and over with you and you do nothing but deflect and nit pick. So if you dont like that I say the games are dumb just answer the ON TOPIC question and move along.

    This is comical, but its how you always are.


    You do not want a discussion ...you only want to make it about me and use insults...Since you are sitting in the bully pulpit ..if I were to do the same to you ...I would be boxed..

    When you are ready to discuss a topic without the digs and slams we can talk otherwise ..all your questions will go unanswered..

    As far as the topic questions which topic are you referring to ?

    The thread topic is "Trump waiting to sign legislation" not the one you sidetracked it to...Tillerson...in post #4..

    Looks like KeyElement comment about " no such thing in this forum as staying on subject past the fourth or fifth post" has some validity.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2018 - 6:43 PM ET #18

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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2018 - 7:02 PM ET #19

    General Kelly is gone yes while the nation was watching the army navy game Trump fired chief of.staff General Kelly.  He will be replaced. 

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    General Kelly is gone yes while the nation was watching the army navy game Trump fired chief of.staff General Kelly.  He will be replaced. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2018 - 7:02 PM ET #20

    Too much sand .
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    Too much sand .
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2018 - 8:25 PM ET #21

    Uhmmmm SS I think you might be off your game today, post 5, try and keep up. I NEVER engage you because I know you pull the crap like you have in this thread....the poor me I am abused yet I will take shots at every opportunity I can routine.

    Post 5 SS....if you dont want comments on what you post, maybe think before you do so. I am HAPPY to discuss alternate points of view to my on topic posts, or even off topic if the content isnt the stuff you pull regularly.

    If things were as tough and unfair as you claim you would have been banned years and years ago. You get more allowances than most any other poster here, especially given the history you have towards me personally.

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    Uhmmmm SS I think you might be off your game today, post 5, try and keep up. I NEVER engage you because I know you pull the crap like you have in this thread....the poor me I am abused yet I will take shots at every opportunity I can routine.

    Post 5 SS....if you dont want comments on what you post, maybe think before you do so. I am HAPPY to discuss alternate points of view to my on topic posts, or even off topic if the content isnt the stuff you pull regularly.

    If things were as tough and unfair as you claim you would have been banned years and years ago. You get more allowances than most any other poster here, especially given the history you have towards me personally.

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