Actually dont think it make a difference to the voters and in fact that transparency of the contributions might only reinforce the undying allegiance to voting along partisan lines
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Actually dont think it make a difference to the voters and in fact that transparency of the contributions might only reinforce the undying allegiance to voting along partisan lines
Obama has government, law firms, colleges, and cable companies.
They should wear logos on their suits like nascar drivers. That list makes me depressed.
"The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed corporations.” ~ Thomas Jefferson
A lot of Lincoln's quotes and Jefferson's quotes predict the future.
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Romney has banks and business on his side.
Obama has government, law firms, colleges, and cable companies.
They should wear logos on their suits like nascar drivers. That list makes me depressed.
"The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed corporations.” ~ Thomas Jefferson
A lot of Lincoln's quotes and Jefferson's quotes predict the future.
Paul has received quite a bit of undisclosed superrrrrr pac money.
That is absolutely no different than the others.
Are you saying that the 5% of his filings that aren't complete yet. are 100% dirty money?
Who is the conspiracy theorist now Wall?
He has provided 95% Disclosure
Compared to 87% for Mitt,
or 89% for Obama.
I agree that the Pac system and campaign finance since the citizens united ruling, is atrocious.
There is literally nothing to stop China from making political campaign contributions through some fake company incorporated in America in turn for handouts. Like Bailout money to set up Cadillac manufacturing plants in China.
It is completely dirty. I used to think that the ability to be anonymous was a good thing. Since I am a Veteran, and being a Ron Paul supporter makes me an easy target for 4th amendment violations since the current Homeland Security Czar sees me as a bigger threat than Al Qaeda.
Now, I am for 100% transparency. I think to a large degree we can see the banks and some of the big players, but 100% should be the goal.
P.S. Ron Paul is more close than any of the other candidates to full transparency when it comes to campaign finance.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
rick,
That isnt true..
Paul has received quite a bit of undisclosed superrrrrr pac money.
That is absolutely no different than the others.
Are you saying that the 5% of his filings that aren't complete yet. are 100% dirty money?
Who is the conspiracy theorist now Wall?
He has provided 95% Disclosure
Compared to 87% for Mitt,
or 89% for Obama.
I agree that the Pac system and campaign finance since the citizens united ruling, is atrocious.
There is literally nothing to stop China from making political campaign contributions through some fake company incorporated in America in turn for handouts. Like Bailout money to set up Cadillac manufacturing plants in China.
It is completely dirty. I used to think that the ability to be anonymous was a good thing. Since I am a Veteran, and being a Ron Paul supporter makes me an easy target for 4th amendment violations since the current Homeland Security Czar sees me as a bigger threat than Al Qaeda.
Now, I am for 100% transparency. I think to a large degree we can see the banks and some of the big players, but 100% should be the goal.
P.S. Ron Paul is more close than any of the other candidates to full transparency when it comes to campaign finance.
Just laying it out there, Paul is a servant to the same trough the others are. I dont think it is being clear or honest making one look above the others, that just isnt factual.
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rick,
Just laying it out there, Paul is a servant to the same trough the others are. I dont think it is being clear or honest making one look above the others, that just isnt factual.
Obama has government, law firms, colleges, and cable companies.
They should wear logos on their suits like nascar drivers. That list makes me depressed.
"The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed corporations.” ~ Thomas Jefferson
A lot of Lincoln's quotes and Jefferson's quotes predict the future.
I support this 100%
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:
Romney has banks and business on his side.
Obama has government, law firms, colleges, and cable companies.
They should wear logos on their suits like nascar drivers. That list makes me depressed.
"The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed corporations.” ~ Thomas Jefferson
A lot of Lincoln's quotes and Jefferson's quotes predict the future.
Obama has government, law firms, colleges, and cable companies.
They should wear logos on their suits like nascar drivers. That list makes me depressed.
"The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed corporations.” ~ Thomas Jefferson
A lot of Lincoln's quotes and Jefferson's quotes predict the future.
TJ called it...
and it doesnt matter (D) or (R)... find someone so polarized and wants to tell you about the other side (mainly because their own side has nothing to stand on) and you are looking at someone playing right into their hands...
It is not corporations and lending institutions that are evil it is that both sides are in bed with them so their is no chance to avoid it...
I think the new battle is not liberal vs conservative... that is simply the slight of hand to get gouged...
the battle is "partisan followers" vs "independent/free thinkers"...
problem is that partisan followers cannot think outside of the GOP/Dem box so they cannot even see the forest beyond the tress
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:
Romney has banks and business on his side.
Obama has government, law firms, colleges, and cable companies.
They should wear logos on their suits like nascar drivers. That list makes me depressed.
"The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed corporations.” ~ Thomas Jefferson
A lot of Lincoln's quotes and Jefferson's quotes predict the future.
TJ called it...
and it doesnt matter (D) or (R)... find someone so polarized and wants to tell you about the other side (mainly because their own side has nothing to stand on) and you are looking at someone playing right into their hands...
It is not corporations and lending institutions that are evil it is that both sides are in bed with them so their is no chance to avoid it...
I think the new battle is not liberal vs conservative... that is simply the slight of hand to get gouged...
the battle is "partisan followers" vs "independent/free thinkers"...
problem is that partisan followers cannot think outside of the GOP/Dem box so they cannot even see the forest beyond the tress
WSC catches a lot of shit. He is a pretty thoughtful guy, though. I'm interested in what he does for a living. He knows economics. He knows how politics and economics are intertwined.
Always a good read.
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WSC catches a lot of shit. He is a pretty thoughtful guy, though. I'm interested in what he does for a living. He knows economics. He knows how politics and economics are intertwined.
Do you have a link that shows where Paul is taking in more SuperPAC Money?
Who said MORE money? Did I say that?
The trough is the trough rick..you cannot try and separate the hogs when the money is being slurped up from all of them.
Paul is as dirty as the rest of them..in fact I think super pacs are worse than corporate handouts, super pacs are much less transparent and much more sneaky.
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Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:
Do you have a link that shows where Paul is taking in more SuperPAC Money?
Who said MORE money? Did I say that?
The trough is the trough rick..you cannot try and separate the hogs when the money is being slurped up from all of them.
Paul is as dirty as the rest of them..in fact I think super pacs are worse than corporate handouts, super pacs are much less transparent and much more sneaky.
WSC catches a lot of shit. He is a pretty thoughtful guy, though. I'm interested in what he does for a living. He knows economics. He knows how politics and economics are intertwined.
Always a good read.
That cannot be true..
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Quote Originally Posted by starwink:
WSC catches a lot of shit. He is a pretty thoughtful guy, though. I'm interested in what he does for a living. He knows economics. He knows how politics and economics are intertwined.
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