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    dl36
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2016 - 3:31 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    Many factors have led to the rise of ISIS, some the blame of foreign policy of the US and some more inherent. 

    ISIS was essentially founded by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi who was originally a cohort of Bin Laden. Most experts say that al-Zarqawi, who was killed by the US in 2006 in Iraq, was with Bin Laden in Afghanistan before 9/11. After the Afghan War, al-Zarqawi is said to fled to Iraq where he formed Al Qaeda in Iraq. Contrary to most anti-Bush pundits, AQ in Iraq operated under Hussein, essentially with his blessing (because they were anti-shia). When Iraq was invaded, al-Zarqawi fled north and helped formulate the insurgency. It was here that he fell out of favor with AQ because of his brutality towards civilians. When this occurred, he was able to use the splintered AQ in Afghan to generate millions in the poppy trade, which gave rise to recruiting throughout the poverty stricken Middle East. Some very supported speculation persists that he was 'turned in' by AQ operatives who informed Jordan who in turn, informed the US of his location. 

    So, while instability has assisted in the rising of ISIS, we know that AQ operated with ease long before out wars in the Middle East and Afghan. 

    Sources:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3250181/Maniac-created-ISIS-medieval-barbarity-Al-Qaeda-chilling-new-book-charts-bloody-rise-fall-Slaughter-Sheik.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Musab_al-Zarqawi

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-7-most-common-myths-about-isis-10410338.html

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/30/isis-myths-debunked_n_5875050.html

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/iraq/2014-06-15/collateral-damage-iraq

    Nice that you actually brought facts to the discussion. Too bad no onewiread it.  Too busy listening to the angry emotions talking heads that demonize and manufacture negativity.  But I guess that's what sells and Unites angry, emotional people.  

    At least that's want can be gathered from this thread 
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    Many factors have led to the rise of ISIS, some the blame of foreign policy of the US and some more inherent. 

    ISIS was essentially founded by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi who was originally a cohort of Bin Laden. Most experts say that al-Zarqawi, who was killed by the US in 2006 in Iraq, was with Bin Laden in Afghanistan before 9/11. After the Afghan War, al-Zarqawi is said to fled to Iraq where he formed Al Qaeda in Iraq. Contrary to most anti-Bush pundits, AQ in Iraq operated under Hussein, essentially with his blessing (because they were anti-shia). When Iraq was invaded, al-Zarqawi fled north and helped formulate the insurgency. It was here that he fell out of favor with AQ because of his brutality towards civilians. When this occurred, he was able to use the splintered AQ in Afghan to generate millions in the poppy trade, which gave rise to recruiting throughout the poverty stricken Middle East. Some very supported speculation persists that he was 'turned in' by AQ operatives who informed Jordan who in turn, informed the US of his location. 

    So, while instability has assisted in the rising of ISIS, we know that AQ operated with ease long before out wars in the Middle East and Afghan. 

    Sources:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3250181/Maniac-created-ISIS-medieval-barbarity-Al-Qaeda-chilling-new-book-charts-bloody-rise-fall-Slaughter-Sheik.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Musab_al-Zarqawi

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-7-most-common-myths-about-isis-10410338.html

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/30/isis-myths-debunked_n_5875050.html

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/iraq/2014-06-15/collateral-damage-iraq

    Nice that you actually brought facts to the discussion. Too bad no onewiread it.  Too busy listening to the angry emotions talking heads that demonize and manufacture negativity.  But I guess that's what sells and Unites angry, emotional people.  

    At least that's want can be gathered from this thread 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2016 - 3:32 PM ET #27

    Because your all the same DL. Everyone of you would never dare criticize the moron in chief... Your non-partisan b.s. never gets old...

    Do you think a Trump Administration would trade 5 terrorist commanders for a traitor and then meet with his parents in the Rose Garden as if this was some great thing?
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    Because your all the same DL. Everyone of you would never dare criticize the moron in chief... Your non-partisan b.s. never gets old...

    Do you think a Trump Administration would trade 5 terrorist commanders for a traitor and then meet with his parents in the Rose Garden as if this was some great thing?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2016 - 4:03 PM ET #28

    It's funny how partisan lemmings so consumed with manufacturing mud to sling at the other  insist that I am for one side or the other.

    As a non-partisan independent I am not bound to any prescribed view and this seems to really bother partisan lemmings that need to categorize and box people as one side or the other to use their prescribed rhetoric and talking points. 

    Funny to see how some Fail to see beyond what they are told to believe 
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    It's funny how partisan lemmings so consumed with manufacturing mud to sling at the other  insist that I am for one side or the other.

    As a non-partisan independent I am not bound to any prescribed view and this seems to really bother partisan lemmings that need to categorize and box people as one side or the other to use their prescribed rhetoric and talking points. 

    Funny to see how some Fail to see beyond what they are told to believe 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2016 - 5:31 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:



    No ducking here. I was Refering to this: 

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/02/19/snap-poll-who-will-make-the-next-best-foreign-policy-president-trump-syria-scholars/

    And when I say handling I mean being able to set the tone as well as being able to react to situations that occur. 


    What a joke that poll is. The winners were Hillary for the dems and Kasich and Jeb for the repubs. All 3 status quo candidates.

    That's a clear sign that those polled are clearly uninformed. Who cares what a bunch of ignorant so called "scholars" think, anyway.

    Yes, I called them ignorant. If you believe Hillary, Kasich, and Jeb are solutions, that says a lot about how much you're not paying attention.

    You still didn't answer my question. You accuse Trump followers of being ignorant. I'm one of those that you label as ignorant.

    I'm still waiting for you or anyone that's not a Trump supporter to produce your evidence to support your position that I'm ignorant?

    I'd also like for you to name the policies that Trump supports that qualify him to be labeled ignorant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:



    No ducking here. I was Refering to this: 

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/02/19/snap-poll-who-will-make-the-next-best-foreign-policy-president-trump-syria-scholars/

    And when I say handling I mean being able to set the tone as well as being able to react to situations that occur. 


    What a joke that poll is. The winners were Hillary for the dems and Kasich and Jeb for the repubs. All 3 status quo candidates.

    That's a clear sign that those polled are clearly uninformed. Who cares what a bunch of ignorant so called "scholars" think, anyway.

    Yes, I called them ignorant. If you believe Hillary, Kasich, and Jeb are solutions, that says a lot about how much you're not paying attention.

    You still didn't answer my question. You accuse Trump followers of being ignorant. I'm one of those that you label as ignorant.

    I'm still waiting for you or anyone that's not a Trump supporter to produce your evidence to support your position that I'm ignorant?

    I'd also like for you to name the policies that Trump supports that qualify him to be labeled ignorant?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2016 - 6:00 PM ET #30

    Trump is going to make vague promises till election eve. This is what populist campaigns do. But I like a few of these promises, and better than the career boardroom back door policy maker in Clinton. Come hell or high wAter, gimmee the celebrity populist !!!
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    Trump is going to make vague promises till election eve. This is what populist campaigns do. But I like a few of these promises, and better than the career boardroom back door policy maker in Clinton. Come hell or high wAter, gimmee the celebrity populist !!!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2016 - 6:01 PM ET #31

    Trump is going to make vague promises till election eve. This is what populist campaigns do. But I like a few of these promises, and better than the career boardroom back door policy maker in Clinton. Come hell or high wAter, gimmee the celebrity populist !!!
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    Trump is going to make vague promises till election eve. This is what populist campaigns do. But I like a few of these promises, and better than the career boardroom back door policy maker in Clinton. Come hell or high wAter, gimmee the celebrity populist !!!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2016 - 10:46 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Nice that you actually brought facts to the discussion. Too bad no onewiread it.  Too busy listening to the angry emotions talking heads that demonize and manufacture negativity.  But I guess that's what sells and Unites angry, emotional people.  

    At least that's want can be gathered from this thread 

    Thanks DL. I don't think any of the right wing extremists could comprehend the post after the word 'factors' except for Money who doesn't read anything that doesn't say 9/11 as an inside job. 

    Right wing sheep generally don't understand that which they are not spoon-fed. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Nice that you actually brought facts to the discussion. Too bad no onewiread it.  Too busy listening to the angry emotions talking heads that demonize and manufacture negativity.  But I guess that's what sells and Unites angry, emotional people.  

    At least that's want can be gathered from this thread 

    Thanks DL. I don't think any of the right wing extremists could comprehend the post after the word 'factors' except for Money who doesn't read anything that doesn't say 9/11 as an inside job. 

    Right wing sheep generally don't understand that which they are not spoon-fed. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2016 - 11:17 PM ET #33

    I am not right wing. I am conservative . I want to conserve the environment and save it for prosperity. I want to conserve this country by controlling immigration and moderating the cultural divisions and religious differences by tempering immigration. I am not a religious person, but tolerate people of different faiths and expect the same. I don't believe America should be involved in destabilizing other nations, or engage in regime changing or nation building--it backfires and threatens us. The Constituition needs revision. It was written to exclude "savages" (native Americans who gave us a pristine land ) and women and people of color (then slaves). Right to bear arms does not include rapid fire machine guns used in warfare, such as used in Newton massacre of first graders.
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    I am not right wing. I am conservative . I want to conserve the environment and save it for prosperity. I want to conserve this country by controlling immigration and moderating the cultural divisions and religious differences by tempering immigration. I am not a religious person, but tolerate people of different faiths and expect the same. I don't believe America should be involved in destabilizing other nations, or engage in regime changing or nation building--it backfires and threatens us. The Constituition needs revision. It was written to exclude "savages" (native Americans who gave us a pristine land ) and women and people of color (then slaves). Right to bear arms does not include rapid fire machine guns used in warfare, such as used in Newton massacre of first graders.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2016 - 1:32 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    It's funny how partisan lemmings so consumed with manufacturing mud to sling at the other  insist that I am for one side or the other.

    As a non-partisan independent I am not bound to any prescribed view and this seems to really bother partisan lemmings that need to categorize and box people as one side or the other to use their prescribed rhetoric and talking points. 

    Funny to see how some Fail to see beyond what they are told to believe 

    I wonder why I waste my time with you but lets try question & answer?

    Do you support Obama's decision to trade the 5 Taliban Commanders for a traitor that likely got 5 or 6 of our guys killed searching for him?

    Do you support Obama's decision to show of the traitor's Mom and Dad in the Rose Garden?

    Do you support Obama's constant proclivity to coddle dictators, Communists & Socialists?

    I don't believe the 3 questions have anything to do with what I'm told to believe. I've seen it with my own eyes.

    Now you Mr. non-partison  - PLEASE ANSWER THE 3 SIMPLE QUESTIONS.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    It's funny how partisan lemmings so consumed with manufacturing mud to sling at the other  insist that I am for one side or the other.

    As a non-partisan independent I am not bound to any prescribed view and this seems to really bother partisan lemmings that need to categorize and box people as one side or the other to use their prescribed rhetoric and talking points. 

    Funny to see how some Fail to see beyond what they are told to believe 

    I wonder why I waste my time with you but lets try question & answer?

    Do you support Obama's decision to trade the 5 Taliban Commanders for a traitor that likely got 5 or 6 of our guys killed searching for him?

    Do you support Obama's decision to show of the traitor's Mom and Dad in the Rose Garden?

    Do you support Obama's constant proclivity to coddle dictators, Communists & Socialists?

    I don't believe the 3 questions have anything to do with what I'm told to believe. I've seen it with my own eyes.

    Now you Mr. non-partison  - PLEASE ANSWER THE 3 SIMPLE QUESTIONS.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2016 - 3:16 AM ET #35

    Neither support nor chose to throw a dramatic emotional temper tantrum and crap my pants over this.


    Seems like the non-partisan thing do to 
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    Neither support nor chose to throw a dramatic emotional temper tantrum and crap my pants over this.


    Seems like the non-partisan thing do to 
     
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    Dl's last response is indicative of the femine, estrogen filled up Left. Absolute goof balls. Check out goofy Harry Reid and the DNC chair Wasserman Shultz.
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    Dl's last response is indicative of the femine, estrogen filled up Left. Absolute goof balls. Check out goofy Harry Reid and the DNC chair Wasserman Shultz.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2016 - 12:22 PM ET #37

    Thanks Sundance on the money. Non-partisan my A$$
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    Thanks Sundance on the money. Non-partisan my A$$
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2016 - 12:50 PM ET #38

    You're welcome Killer. The non partisan drives me nuts. Like a badge of honor.
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    You're welcome Killer. The non partisan drives me nuts. Like a badge of honor.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Dl's last response is indicative of the femine, estrogen filled up Left. Absolute goof balls. Check out goofy Harry Reid and the DNC chair Wasserman Shultz.

    Drinking again?

    Wow that comment was weird.

    It's also weird that people have to insist I'm left or right because my non-partisan  independent  views are beyond what they can comprehend.  It's like a litmus test for partisan lemmings.  Way to show your true colors. 

    What seems weirdest in you drinking ramblings how you focus on a vision and fantasy of feminized males.  Way to show to the entire site your true colors there too.

    And finallythe litmus test for crazy is simply anyone that agrees with sundance, the established tin foil hat, conspiracy wacko nutjob. Glad true colors were shown there too.

    Way to fly your colors and display them for everyone to see.

    Keep em flying
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Dl's last response is indicative of the femine, estrogen filled up Left. Absolute goof balls. Check out goofy Harry Reid and the DNC chair Wasserman Shultz.

    Drinking again?

    Wow that comment was weird.

    It's also weird that people have to insist I'm left or right because my non-partisan  independent  views are beyond what they can comprehend.  It's like a litmus test for partisan lemmings.  Way to show your true colors. 

    What seems weirdest in you drinking ramblings how you focus on a vision and fantasy of feminized males.  Way to show to the entire site your true colors there too.

    And finallythe litmus test for crazy is simply anyone that agrees with sundance, the established tin foil hat, conspiracy wacko nutjob. Glad true colors were shown there too.

    Way to fly your colors and display them for everyone to see.

    Keep em flying
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2016 - 2:43 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    Thanks DL. I don't think any of the right wing extremists could comprehend the post after the word 'factors' except for Money who doesn't read anything that doesn't say 9/11 as an inside job. 

    Right wing sheep generally don't understand that which they are not spoon-fed. 


    Agreed the partisan lemmings sheep seem to be displaying their true colors to the entire forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    Thanks DL. I don't think any of the right wing extremists could comprehend the post after the word 'factors' except for Money who doesn't read anything that doesn't say 9/11 as an inside job. 

    Right wing sheep generally don't understand that which they are not spoon-fed. 


    Agreed the partisan lemmings sheep seem to be displaying their true colors to the entire forum
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2016 - 6:11 PM ET #41

    What's wrong with Trump?  It took months until Chris Wallace finally asked him about his tax plan in a debate.  I already posted months ago that it's stupid and doesn't make sense.  He wants to increase spending while decreasing revenue.  Go try that in your household and see how successful it is. 

    Please don't tell me it worked for Reagan.  The debt ceiling was raised numerous times and it should be mentioned that many people from his administration ended up being indicted.  He's comparable to Harding in terms of having no control of the people he selected to serve various positions.
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    What's wrong with Trump?  It took months until Chris Wallace finally asked him about his tax plan in a debate.  I already posted months ago that it's stupid and doesn't make sense.  He wants to increase spending while decreasing revenue.  Go try that in your household and see how successful it is. 

    Please don't tell me it worked for Reagan.  The debt ceiling was raised numerous times and it should be mentioned that many people from his administration ended up being indicted.  He's comparable to Harding in terms of having no control of the people he selected to serve various positions.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2016 - 6:24 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity:

    What's wrong with Trump?  It took months until Chris Wallace finally asked him about his tax plan in a debate.  I already posted months ago that it's stupid and doesn't make sense.  He wants to increase spending while decreasing revenue.  Go try that in your household and see how successful it is. 

    Please don't tell me it worked for Reagan.  The debt ceiling was raised numerous times and it should be mentioned that many people from his administration ended up being indicted.  He's comparable to Harding in terms of having no control of the people he selected to serve various positions.

    Hey now. Don't bring common sense into the discussion. There is the reality of Reagan the President, and there is the LEGEND (legend=myth in this case) of Ronald Reagan. The legend is larger than the reality. He made errors everywhere. Noone cares. They won't care with Trump either. Oh, and RONALD rhymes with DONALD. See a pattern? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by sicknesscity:

    What's wrong with Trump?  It took months until Chris Wallace finally asked him about his tax plan in a debate.  I already posted months ago that it's stupid and doesn't make sense.  He wants to increase spending while decreasing revenue.  Go try that in your household and see how successful it is. 

    Please don't tell me it worked for Reagan.  The debt ceiling was raised numerous times and it should be mentioned that many people from his administration ended up being indicted.  He's comparable to Harding in terms of having no control of the people he selected to serve various positions.

    Hey now. Don't bring common sense into the discussion. There is the reality of Reagan the President, and there is the LEGEND (legend=myth in this case) of Ronald Reagan. The legend is larger than the reality. He made errors everywhere. Noone cares. They won't care with Trump either. Oh, and RONALD rhymes with DONALD. See a pattern? 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2016 - 8:27 PM ET #43

    Lol, rhyming!!!!!
    Yup, on the level of toddler 

    Too funny! 

    I swear it's like you're going out of your way
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    Lol, rhyming!!!!!
    Yup, on the level of toddler 

    Too funny! 

    I swear it's like you're going out of your way
     
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2016 - 8:47 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Lol, rhyming!!!!!Yup, on the level of toddler Too funny! I swear it's like you're going out of your way

    Troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    Lol, rhyming!!!!!Yup, on the level of toddler Too funny! I swear it's like you're going out of your way

    Troll.
     
    dl36
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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2016 - 10:42 PM ET #45

    Trump trolled
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    Trump trolled
     
    Relax_Dude
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2016 - 7:22 PM ET #46

    63 CHRISTIANS were killed in a Park celebrating the Resurrection and Easter. The media doesn't call them Christians, lest we start banning Muslims and expressing outrage, or defending them. NOW would be a good time for a drone attack, so they didn't die in vain. RIP Pakustani Christians.
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    63 CHRISTIANS were killed in a Park celebrating the Resurrection and Easter. The media doesn't call them Christians, lest we start banning Muslims and expressing outrage, or defending them. NOW would be a good time for a drone attack, so they didn't die in vain. RIP Pakustani Christians.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2016 - 9:16 PM ET #47

    Relax_dude,


    Relax dude 

    You're starting to sound like another one of the emotionally unstable psychos that completely lose it and go over the deep end. 


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    Relax_dude,


    Relax dude 

    You're starting to sound like another one of the emotionally unstable psychos that completely lose it and go over the deep end. 


     
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    Posted: Mar. 27, 2016 - 10:27 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    Thanks DL. I don't think any of the right wing extremists could comprehend the post after the word 'factors' except for Money who doesn't read anything that doesn't say 9/11 as an inside job. 

    Right wing sheep generally don't understand that which they are not spoon-fed. 
    And you don’t read anything besides the politics section of Cosmo magazine.

    Left wing sheep like you don’t understand that which they are not given through a leftist mushroom tip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:


    Thanks DL. I don't think any of the right wing extremists could comprehend the post after the word 'factors' except for Money who doesn't read anything that doesn't say 9/11 as an inside job. 

    Right wing sheep generally don't understand that which they are not spoon-fed. 
    And you don’t read anything besides the politics section of Cosmo magazine.

    Left wing sheep like you don’t understand that which they are not given through a leftist mushroom tip.

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 2, 2016 - 8:02 AM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    And you don’t read anything besides the politics section of Cosmo magazine.


    Left wing sheep like you don’t understand that which they are not given through a leftist mushroom tip.


    I was thinking of you yesterday. 

    You finally have your proof that the moon landing was fake like you've been saying all along. 

    https://www.ozy.com/true-story/how-i-faked-the-apollo-moon-landing/68714
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneySRH:

    And you don’t read anything besides the politics section of Cosmo magazine.


    Left wing sheep like you don’t understand that which they are not given through a leftist mushroom tip.


    I was thinking of you yesterday. 

    You finally have your proof that the moon landing was fake like you've been saying all along. 

    https://www.ozy.com/true-story/how-i-faked-the-apollo-moon-landing/68714
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