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    So it's close to election day, does anyone have any serious betting advice?

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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2020 - 2:09 PM ET #1

    It's close to election day now and I was wondering if anyone had any serious unbiased betting advice on who they believe will win the election and whether the odds present any value.

    Biden appears to be well ahead in the polls, but we all know how that turned out in 2016! Biden's poll numbers in the key swing states (Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, Pennsylvania) are not that different to Clinton's in 2016.

    What's also worrying is that Trump rallies gather thousands of people who are really enthusiastic, but Biden's rallies are basically non-existent.

    So what do you think? Looking for serious unbiased opinions.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    It's close to election day now and I was wondering if anyone had any serious unbiased betting advice on who they believe will win the election and whether the odds present any value.

    Biden appears to be well ahead in the polls, but we all know how that turned out in 2016! Biden's poll numbers in the key swing states (Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, Pennsylvania) are not that different to Clinton's in 2016.

    What's also worrying is that Trump rallies gather thousands of people who are really enthusiastic, but Biden's rallies are basically non-existent.

    So what do you think? Looking for serious unbiased opinions.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2020 - 2:13 PM ET #2

    Parsley Biden wins

    Democrats control house 

    Democrats control Senate. 

    Prop bet.(value in given odds b's reality unfolding in Louisville) just a small sum. No more than 6 percent of roll < 5% on parsley  < 1% on prop. 

    McConnell loses Kentucky seat.

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    Parsley Biden wins

    Democrats control house 

    Democrats control Senate. 

    Prop bet.(value in given odds b's reality unfolding in Louisville) just a small sum. No more than 6 percent of roll < 5% on parsley  < 1% on prop. 

    McConnell loses Kentucky seat.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2020 - 2:21 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Parsley Biden wins Democrats control house  Democrats control Senate.  Prop bet.(value in given odds b's reality unfolding in Louisville) just a small sum. No more than 6 percent of roll < 5% on parsley  < 1% on prop.  McConnell loses Kentucky seat.
    I see, thanks! Who do you think wins out of Trump or Biden and why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Parsley Biden wins Democrats control house  Democrats control Senate.  Prop bet.(value in given odds b's reality unfolding in Louisville) just a small sum. No more than 6 percent of roll < 5% on parsley  < 1% on prop.  McConnell loses Kentucky seat.
    I see, thanks! Who do you think wins out of Trump or Biden and why?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2020 - 2:29 PM ET #4

    Biden wins. 

    Trump win came by carry of 2st district maine and Pennsylvania.  Trump need every thing he had with the exception of losing Pennsylvania.  Second district maine Golden is smoking craft Republican.  That doesn't align with a Trump victory. He now in a battleground of Florida Georgia North Carolina  south Carolina Iowa Texas.  The solid south bible belt. He is losing in Arizona Nevada Montana... these areas shouldn't even be in play.

    I look yo the state by state battle with 23 republicans clinging to their seats. Earlier voting polls.reveal a landslide of eager early voters m9ving their decision to biden. Trump only chance is to bank on the procrastinator slackers who have a huge history of never voting.....

    Coat tails is always discussed as a presidential race results how many seats and where.  Without winning Senate and house Trump is smoked this election cycle... 

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    Biden wins. 

    Trump win came by carry of 2st district maine and Pennsylvania.  Trump need every thing he had with the exception of losing Pennsylvania.  Second district maine Golden is smoking craft Republican.  That doesn't align with a Trump victory. He now in a battleground of Florida Georgia North Carolina  south Carolina Iowa Texas.  The solid south bible belt. He is losing in Arizona Nevada Montana... these areas shouldn't even be in play.

    I look yo the state by state battle with 23 republicans clinging to their seats. Earlier voting polls.reveal a landslide of eager early voters m9ving their decision to biden. Trump only chance is to bank on the procrastinator slackers who have a huge history of never voting.....

    Coat tails is always discussed as a presidential race results how many seats and where.  Without winning Senate and house Trump is smoked this election cycle... 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2020 - 2:41 PM ET #5

    The polls are a psy op. They intentionally under poll Republicans in big numbers. You will at least get a split with the following and end up with plus money. I am personally trying to win a covers  t shirt with these 2 candidates.

    Michigan. James 

    Minnesota  Lewis

    Good luck, sd

     

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    The polls are a psy op. They intentionally under poll Republicans in big numbers. You will at least get a split with the following and end up with plus money. I am personally trying to win a covers  t shirt with these 2 candidates.

    Michigan. James 

    Minnesota  Lewis

    Good luck, sd

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2020 - 2:47 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Biden wins.  Trump win came by carry of 2st district maine and Pennsylvania.  Trump need every thing he had with the exception of losing Pennsylvania.  Second district maine Golden is smoking craft Republican.  That doesn't align with a Trump victory. He now in a battleground of Florida Georgia North Carolina  south Carolina Iowa Texas.  The solid south bible belt. He is losing in Arizona Nevada Montana... these areas shouldn't even be in play. I look yo the state by state battle with 23 republicans clinging to their seats. Earlier voting polls.reveal a landslide of eager early voters m9ving their decision to biden. Trump only chance is to bank on the procrastinator slackers who have a huge history of never voting..... Coat tails is always discussed as a presidential race results how many seats and where.  Without winning Senate and house Trump is smoked this election cycle...

                moneybagmoneybag  biden   thumbs_up

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Biden wins.  Trump win came by carry of 2st district maine and Pennsylvania.  Trump need every thing he had with the exception of losing Pennsylvania.  Second district maine Golden is smoking craft Republican.  That doesn't align with a Trump victory. He now in a battleground of Florida Georgia North Carolina  south Carolina Iowa Texas.  The solid south bible belt. He is losing in Arizona Nevada Montana... these areas shouldn't even be in play. I look yo the state by state battle with 23 republicans clinging to their seats. Earlier voting polls.reveal a landslide of eager early voters m9ving their decision to biden. Trump only chance is to bank on the procrastinator slackers who have a huge history of never voting..... Coat tails is always discussed as a presidential race results how many seats and where.  Without winning Senate and house Trump is smoked this election cycle...

                moneybagmoneybag  biden   thumbs_up

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2020 - 4:23 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Circus_Bettor:

    "So what do you think? Looking for serious unbiased opinions."     Read Michael Goodwin's NY Post article, for a Trump voter perspective. You will find pro-Biden and anti Trump articles are everywhere, easily found. But this article clarifies the MULTIPLIED Swing State Voter, the ones in Pa, rural Mich, Wisc, NC, Ga, Iowa.  https://nypost.com/2020/10/24/heres-why-im-sticking-with-trump-over-feeble-biden-goodwin/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
    if he can't hold.a majority in the Senate.  Pick up seats in the house he loses the presidency. It becomes this simple.  Everything else is just lip service to get you all to push MONEY into the hole of defeat.... great investment you can dump a pile of money into politics. Trymp has already blew a half a billion and is rynning broke.

    Very poor return..... Biden has a war chest to media blitz the background as Trump pulls advertising space Biden locks more of the air waves for Democratic canidates... blue wave coming..  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circus_Bettor:

    "So what do you think? Looking for serious unbiased opinions."     Read Michael Goodwin's NY Post article, for a Trump voter perspective. You will find pro-Biden and anti Trump articles are everywhere, easily found. But this article clarifies the MULTIPLIED Swing State Voter, the ones in Pa, rural Mich, Wisc, NC, Ga, Iowa.  https://nypost.com/2020/10/24/heres-why-im-sticking-with-trump-over-feeble-biden-goodwin/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons
    if he can't hold.a majority in the Senate.  Pick up seats in the house he loses the presidency. It becomes this simple.  Everything else is just lip service to get you all to push MONEY into the hole of defeat.... great investment you can dump a pile of money into politics. Trymp has already blew a half a billion and is rynning broke.

    Very poor return..... Biden has a war chest to media blitz the background as Trump pulls advertising space Biden locks more of the air waves for Democratic canidates... blue wave coming..  

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2020 - 4:26 PM ET #9

    The pendulum well the fringes of democrats will have to shift focus to a centered labor blue-collar tolerances or disenfranchised they will sway back to the Republican party.  As happened in 2010 when bonehead was awarded the houses gavel....

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    The pendulum well the fringes of democrats will have to shift focus to a centered labor blue-collar tolerances or disenfranchised they will sway back to the Republican party.  As happened in 2010 when bonehead was awarded the houses gavel....

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2020 - 10:59 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Bwahahaha:

    What's also worrying is that Trump rallies gather thousands of people who are really enthusiastic, but Biden's rallies are basically non-existent. So what do you think? Looking for serious unbiased opinions.

    Every election is different.  Elections aren't football games where late touchdowns in 4th quarter can win games.  Instead elections consist of mostly decided voters but their decisions won't be revealed until later.  This year, rallies are meaningless indicators because Trump still trails behind Biden in polls and gambling markets.  In a pandemic, Trump rallies are reckless while Biden's deliberate non-rally campaign has been more successful.  Despite limitations, the best polls have historically been right more often than not in the long term.  Within 5% margin of error.  Surprise results don't always happen.  According to University of BC study, gambling markets tend to be more accurate than public polls.  Especially in the final weeks before election.  For unbiased forecasts, consider non-US sources such as the economist and financial times with no axe to grind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwahahaha:

    What's also worrying is that Trump rallies gather thousands of people who are really enthusiastic, but Biden's rallies are basically non-existent. So what do you think? Looking for serious unbiased opinions.

    Every election is different.  Elections aren't football games where late touchdowns in 4th quarter can win games.  Instead elections consist of mostly decided voters but their decisions won't be revealed until later.  This year, rallies are meaningless indicators because Trump still trails behind Biden in polls and gambling markets.  In a pandemic, Trump rallies are reckless while Biden's deliberate non-rally campaign has been more successful.  Despite limitations, the best polls have historically been right more often than not in the long term.  Within 5% margin of error.  Surprise results don't always happen.  According to University of BC study, gambling markets tend to be more accurate than public polls.  Especially in the final weeks before election.  For unbiased forecasts, consider non-US sources such as the economist and financial times with no axe to grind.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2020 - 6:59 AM ET #11

    Everything looks the same as 2016 

    Biden is a weaker candidate than Clinton 

    Trump +135 is the best bet of the century 

     

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    Everything looks the same as 2016 

    Biden is a weaker candidate than Clinton 

    Trump +135 is the best bet of the century 

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Everything looks the same as 2016  Biden is a weaker candidate than Clinton  Trump +135 is the best bet of the century
    But don't you also think Biden is helped by the fact that he is nowhere near as hated as Clinton was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Everything looks the same as 2016  Biden is a weaker candidate than Clinton  Trump +135 is the best bet of the century
    But don't you also think Biden is helped by the fact that he is nowhere near as hated as Clinton was?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwahahaha:

    It's close to election day now and I was wondering if anyone had any serious unbiased betting advice on who they believe will win the election and whether the odds present any value. Biden appears to be well ahead in the polls, but we all know how that turned out in 2016! Biden's poll numbers in the key swing states (Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, Pennsylvania) are not that different to Clinton's in 2016. What's also worrying is that Trump rallies gather thousands of people who are really enthusiastic, but Biden's rallies are basically non-existent. So what do you think? Looking for serious unbiased opinions.

    You said it right here: What's also worrying is that Trump rallies gather thousands of people who are really enthusiastic, but Biden's rallies are basically non-existent.

    Put aside your emotions and think about that for a moment. What does it tell you?

    The same people who believe the fake news also believe polls are real. I've consulted on campaigns. I assure you, most polls are fairy tales.

    The smart bet is Trump at positive odds, currently +170.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwahahaha:

    It's close to election day now and I was wondering if anyone had any serious unbiased betting advice on who they believe will win the election and whether the odds present any value. Biden appears to be well ahead in the polls, but we all know how that turned out in 2016! Biden's poll numbers in the key swing states (Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, Pennsylvania) are not that different to Clinton's in 2016. What's also worrying is that Trump rallies gather thousands of people who are really enthusiastic, but Biden's rallies are basically non-existent. So what do you think? Looking for serious unbiased opinions.

    You said it right here: What's also worrying is that Trump rallies gather thousands of people who are really enthusiastic, but Biden's rallies are basically non-existent.

    Put aside your emotions and think about that for a moment. What does it tell you?

    The same people who believe the fake news also believe polls are real. I've consulted on campaigns. I assure you, most polls are fairy tales.

    The smart bet is Trump at positive odds, currently +170.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2020 - 10:20 AM ET #14

    Trump is a great bet as an underdog. Go take advantage of betting on some states too. Biden is weaker than Hillary. There's a reason they used the pandemic to hide him. National polls I think are way off, Trafalgar one of the more successful polls from 16 has the race basically a coin flip. 

    Republicans as of this past weekend were pulling dead even in early ballots in Michigan. Its expected that more GOP turnout on Election Day instead of absentee/early voting. I love the James pick in Michigan, he is a strong candidate and an added few % of black votes his way should give him the race vs a long time politician. 

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    Trump is a great bet as an underdog. Go take advantage of betting on some states too. Biden is weaker than Hillary. There's a reason they used the pandemic to hide him. National polls I think are way off, Trafalgar one of the more successful polls from 16 has the race basically a coin flip. 

    Republicans as of this past weekend were pulling dead even in early ballots in Michigan. Its expected that more GOP turnout on Election Day instead of absentee/early voting. I love the James pick in Michigan, he is a strong candidate and an added few % of black votes his way should give him the race vs a long time politician. 

     
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    Trump +145 best bet of the century 

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    Trump +145 best bet of the century 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Trump +145 best bet of the century

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    Trump +145 best bet of the century

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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 12:49 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Trump +145 best bet of the century

    Take the L

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Trump +145 best bet of the century

    Take the L

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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 1:34 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Everything looks the same as 2016

    Biden is a weaker candidate than Clinton

    Trump +135  is   the best bet of the century

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Everything looks the same as 2016

    Biden is a weaker candidate than Clinton

    Trump +135  is   the best bet of the century

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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 1:44 PM ET #19

    Yes I have to wait till inauguration for the parlay to pan... 

    Georgia runoff...jan5th. 

    You know it take till at least the 21st.

    But I am still in it....

     

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    Yes I have to wait till inauguration for the parlay to pan... 

    Georgia runoff...jan5th. 

    You know it take till at least the 21st.

    But I am still in it....

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Everything looks the same as 2016

    Biden is a weaker candidate than Clinton

    Trump +135  is   the best bet of the century

     

    Yes I have to wait till inauguration for the parlay to pan... 

    Georgia runoff...jan5th.  You know it take till at least the 21st. But I am still in it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

     

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Everything looks the same as 2016

    Biden is a weaker candidate than Clinton

    Trump +135  is   the best bet of the century

     

    Yes I have to wait till inauguration for the parlay to pan... 

    Georgia runoff...jan5th.  You know it take till at least the 21st. But I am still in it....

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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 3:13 PM ET #21

    See in terms of betting. 

    A divine sport as you will.

    Jesus bet on humans 

    Lucifer bet against us.

    And here we are.

    Ok. No one bet for or against has been settled. 

    If you all certain that the election will be overturned a opportunity still exists. You can buy the futures for penny on a dollar face. 

    Some gamblers have destroyed their tickets if they have a paper slip. Some kept the scrap or are very eager to make something out of that toxic asset in the spread sheet... 

    Some will hold their tickets .

    Those willing to purchase and those willing to sell can negotiate... 

    Futures have worth and this one ain't over till Biden puts his hand on a bible. Jan 2021... 

    Running around screaming hasn't gotten you far in last 4 years. But if you feel such a way as the courts with Donnie judges will do it. A penny per10 spot is not unrealistic.....

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    See in terms of betting. 

    A divine sport as you will.

    Jesus bet on humans 

    Lucifer bet against us.

    And here we are.

    Ok. No one bet for or against has been settled. 

    If you all certain that the election will be overturned a opportunity still exists. You can buy the futures for penny on a dollar face. 

    Some gamblers have destroyed their tickets if they have a paper slip. Some kept the scrap or are very eager to make something out of that toxic asset in the spread sheet... 

    Some will hold their tickets .

    Those willing to purchase and those willing to sell can negotiate... 

    Futures have worth and this one ain't over till Biden puts his hand on a bible. Jan 2021... 

    Running around screaming hasn't gotten you far in last 4 years. But if you feel such a way as the courts with Donnie judges will do it. A penny per10 spot is not unrealistic.....

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2020 - 3:14 PM ET #22

    I won't bet for Trump you have to talk with others...

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    I won't bet for Trump you have to talk with others...

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