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Posted: Jan. 8, 2019 - 9:49 PM ET #26

Manafort's lawyers failed to properly redact information. A simple cut & paste command revealed Manafort met with Kilimnik in Madrid and shared polling data related to the campaign.

Trump wants to secure the border but people around him can't even secure a PDF. 

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Manafort's lawyers failed to properly redact information. A simple cut & paste command revealed Manafort met with Kilimnik in Madrid and shared polling data related to the campaign.

Trump wants to secure the border but people around him can't even secure a PDF. 

 
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Trump actually said "celebrities build walls around their houses."

So that's a rationale for building a wall on the southern border?

Dumb POS

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Trump actually said "celebrities build walls around their houses."

So that's a rationale for building a wall on the southern border?

Dumb POS

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

Trump actually said "celebrities build walls around their houses."

So that's a rationale for building a wall on the southern border?

Dumb POS


Why do "celebrities build walls around their houses." and often have guards?

Because,they want high-end security to make them feel save and secure..from unknown people from the outside..  makes sense.
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Trump actually said "celebrities build walls around their houses."

So that's a rationale for building a wall on the southern border?

Dumb POS


Why do "celebrities build walls around their houses." and often have guards?

Because,they want high-end security to make them feel save and secure..from unknown people from the outside..  makes sense.
 
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Are you secure? I'm secure.

I don't know of anyone who is afraid of illegal immigrants & I live north of farking Miami! Most crimes are committed by home grown Americans not immigrants. Do you agree?

So who is afraid & insecure? Do you need a wall around your home?

I'm astonished people are buying into this fear mongering wall BS.

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Are you secure? I'm secure.

I don't know of anyone who is afraid of illegal immigrants & I live north of farking Miami! Most crimes are committed by home grown Americans not immigrants. Do you agree?

So who is afraid & insecure? Do you need a wall around your home?

I'm astonished people are buying into this fear mongering wall BS.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

Are you secure? I'm secure.

I don't know of anyone who is afraid of illegal immigrants & I live north of farking Miami! Most crimes are committed by home grown Americans not immigrants. Do you agree?

So who is afraid & insecure? Do you need a wall around your home?

I'm astonished people are buying into this fear mongering wall BS.



Everyone has a wall around their homes here in Arizona...
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Are you secure? I'm secure.

I don't know of anyone who is afraid of illegal immigrants & I live north of farking Miami! Most crimes are committed by home grown Americans not immigrants. Do you agree?

So who is afraid & insecure? Do you need a wall around your home?

I'm astonished people are buying into this fear mongering wall BS.



Everyone has a wall around their homes here in Arizona...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

Are you secure? I'm secure.

I don't know of anyone who is afraid of illegal immigrants & I live north of farking Miami! Most crimes are committed by home grown Americans not immigrants. Do you agree?

So who is afraid & insecure? Do you need a wall around your home?

I'm astonished people are buying into this fear mongering wall BS.



i chose a double gated community w/guard patrol to keep the North American,Usa species of thieve/malcontent's out.  The immigrants are not my concern as far as a threat level. The lazy American's & European refugees are.. the wall around my home is concrete and about 6ft high...It only serves as a privacy measure. Get by all that. meet Gadget and Hazel,my Black Jaguar's ,and if they don't deter a person ......Then Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson and Mr. Poo will greet you.......   More terroists & terrori$m$$$  make it thru to America thru the Canadian/Usa border. fyi.
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Are you secure? I'm secure.

I don't know of anyone who is afraid of illegal immigrants & I live north of farking Miami! Most crimes are committed by home grown Americans not immigrants. Do you agree?

So who is afraid & insecure? Do you need a wall around your home?

I'm astonished people are buying into this fear mongering wall BS.



i chose a double gated community w/guard patrol to keep the North American,Usa species of thieve/malcontent's out.  The immigrants are not my concern as far as a threat level. The lazy American's & European refugees are.. the wall around my home is concrete and about 6ft high...It only serves as a privacy measure. Get by all that. meet Gadget and Hazel,my Black Jaguar's ,and if they don't deter a person ......Then Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson and Mr. Poo will greet you.......   More terroists & terrori$m$$$  make it thru to America thru the Canadian/Usa border. fyi.
 
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Gates nor walls keep out scumbags. Hope you'll never have to use the guns because if you do, it will change your life forever.

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Gates nor walls keep out scumbags. Hope you'll never have to use the guns because if you do, it will change your life forever.

 
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Even on his inauguration day Trump promoted his organization when he got out of the limo & walked for a few minutes while passing his new DC hotel. Once they passed the hotel, he & his wife got back in the limo. 

He doesn't care about our country. He's a selfish phony POS.

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Even on his inauguration day Trump promoted his organization when he got out of the limo & walked for a few minutes while passing his new DC hotel. Once they passed the hotel, he & his wife got back in the limo. 

He doesn't care about our country. He's a selfish phony POS.

 
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Change.org, Impeach Rashida Tlaib petition has over 125,000 signatures. 

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Change.org, Impeach Rashida Tlaib petition has over 125,000 signatures. 

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Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

Change.org, Impeach Rashida Tlaib petition has over 125,000 signatures.

Here's a Guide to Trump Speak for his favorite sayings & what they really mean...

1. Did you know (I just found this out)

2. People are saying ( I'm making this up)

3. We'll see what happens (I have no idea what's happening) 

4. Fake News ( This information makes me look bad)

5. Believe me (I'm lying)

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Change.org, Impeach Rashida Tlaib petition has over 125,000 signatures.

Here's a Guide to Trump Speak for his favorite sayings & what they really mean...

1. Did you know (I just found this out)

2. People are saying ( I'm making this up)

3. We'll see what happens (I have no idea what's happening) 

4. Fake News ( This information makes me look bad)

5. Believe me (I'm lying)

 
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If Trump declares national emergency, he may divert diaster relief money to fund unnecessary border wall.  This would be an unconstitutional abuse of power causing immediate legal challenge in court.  Republicans and democrats are concerned about cancelling help for places that suffer enormous catastrophes costing thousands of lives.  Diaster relief is a higher priority for Puerto rico, Texas plus dozen other states ravaged by hurricanes, fires and floods.   Taking funds from real emergencies to pay for a crisis manufactured by Trump is unacceptable.
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If Trump declares national emergency, he may divert diaster relief money to fund unnecessary border wall.  This would be an unconstitutional abuse of power causing immediate legal challenge in court.  Republicans and democrats are concerned about cancelling help for places that suffer enormous catastrophes costing thousands of lives.  Diaster relief is a higher priority for Puerto rico, Texas plus dozen other states ravaged by hurricanes, fires and floods.   Taking funds from real emergencies to pay for a crisis manufactured by Trump is unacceptable.
 
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Collusion case against Trump just got stronger.  Court filings reveal his campaign manager Manafort shared political polling data with operatives of russian intelligence.  Its propaganda campaign on social media targets audiences and swings votes to benefit Trump in 2016 election.

According to Center for american progress, there have been 97 contacts between Trump team and russan operatives, including 27 meetings.  Even fox news confirm increasing evidences of collusion.  Cooperation between americans and foreign government to undermine democracy is a conspiracy.   Possibly, one of the biggest political scandals in US history.
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Collusion case against Trump just got stronger.  Court filings reveal his campaign manager Manafort shared political polling data with operatives of russian intelligence.  Its propaganda campaign on social media targets audiences and swings votes to benefit Trump in 2016 election.

According to Center for american progress, there have been 97 contacts between Trump team and russan operatives, including 27 meetings.  Even fox news confirm increasing evidences of collusion.  Cooperation between americans and foreign government to undermine democracy is a conspiracy.   Possibly, one of the biggest political scandals in US history.
 
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Well when you see the mailman today he is not getting paid. No federal worker in prison or at the airport will be receiving a check.

Possibly if the citizen home is going to be foreclosed on that they might be approachable,  listen essay maybe the screw might want to play ball with the cartrls. Just saying.

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Well when you see the mailman today he is not getting paid. No federal worker in prison or at the airport will be receiving a check.

Possibly if the citizen home is going to be foreclosed on that they might be approachable,  listen essay maybe the screw might want to play ball with the cartrls. Just saying.

 
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Looking forward to the House of Representatives hosting Michael Cohen February 7th.

Trump wants to give farmers 12 billion in aid hurt by his own tariffs. 

What a fraud!

 

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Looking forward to the House of Representatives hosting Michael Cohen February 7th.

Trump wants to give farmers 12 billion in aid hurt by his own tariffs. 

What a fraud!

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

Looking forward to the House of Representatives hosting Michael Cohen February 7th. Trump wants to give farmers 12 billion in aid hurt by his own tariffs.  What a fraud!
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

Looking forward to the House of Representatives hosting Michael Cohen February 7th. Trump wants to give farmers 12 billion in aid hurt by his own tariffs.  What a fraud!

I am a well documented non-partisan independent and have spent countless hours considering this situation. Here are two things that I think we can all agree on - republican or democrat.

1) If you voted for Trump you are a flawed individual and should have your voting rights reduced (maybe it only counts for 1/2 of a full vote or something like that). After all much like committing a crime - stupid, selfish, and bad actions have consequences. 

2) If you continue to support Trump you are a flawed and inferior individual - frankly an embarrassment. And your voting rights should be immediately and permanently revoked. 

 

the lack of critical thinking ability is astonishing.

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Looking forward to the House of Representatives hosting Michael Cohen February 7th. Trump wants to give farmers 12 billion in aid hurt by his own tariffs.  What a fraud!
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

Looking forward to the House of Representatives hosting Michael Cohen February 7th. Trump wants to give farmers 12 billion in aid hurt by his own tariffs.  What a fraud!

I am a well documented non-partisan independent and have spent countless hours considering this situation. Here are two things that I think we can all agree on - republican or democrat.

1) If you voted for Trump you are a flawed individual and should have your voting rights reduced (maybe it only counts for 1/2 of a full vote or something like that). After all much like committing a crime - stupid, selfish, and bad actions have consequences. 

2) If you continue to support Trump you are a flawed and inferior individual - frankly an embarrassment. And your voting rights should be immediately and permanently revoked. 

 

the lack of critical thinking ability is astonishing.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

Looking forward to the House of Representatives hosting Michael Cohen February 7th. Trump wants to give farmers 12 billion in aid hurt by his own tariffs.  What a fraud!
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

Looking forward to the House of Representatives hosting Michael Cohen February 7th. Trump wants to give farmers 12 billion in aid hurt by his own tariffs.  What a fraud!
I am a well documented non-partisan independent and have spent countless hours considering this situation. Here are two things that I think we can all agree on - republican or democrat. 1) If you voted for Trump you are a flawed individual and should have your voting rights reduced (maybe it only counts for 1/2 of a full vote or something like that). After all much like committing a crime - stupid, selfish, and bad actions have consequences.  2) If you continue to support Trump you are a flawed and inferior individual - frankly an embarrassment. And your voting rights should be immediately and permanently revoked.    the lack of critical thinking ability is astonishing.
lolol those deplorable citizen.  (Old man shaking fist emoji)

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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

Looking forward to the House of Representatives hosting Michael Cohen February 7th. Trump wants to give farmers 12 billion in aid hurt by his own tariffs.  What a fraud!
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

Looking forward to the House of Representatives hosting Michael Cohen February 7th. Trump wants to give farmers 12 billion in aid hurt by his own tariffs.  What a fraud!
I am a well documented non-partisan independent and have spent countless hours considering this situation. Here are two things that I think we can all agree on - republican or democrat. 1) If you voted for Trump you are a flawed individual and should have your voting rights reduced (maybe it only counts for 1/2 of a full vote or something like that). After all much like committing a crime - stupid, selfish, and bad actions have consequences.  2) If you continue to support Trump you are a flawed and inferior individual - frankly an embarrassment. And your voting rights should be immediately and permanently revoked.    the lack of critical thinking ability is astonishing.
lolol those deplorable citizen.  (Old man shaking fist emoji)

 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Midnight1]

Are you secure? I'm secure.

I don't know of anyone who is afraid of illegal immigrants & I live north of farking Miami! Most crimes are committed by home grown Americans not immigrants. Do you agree?

So who is afraid & insecure? Do you need a wall around your home?


I was living in Las Vegas,Nev. and my gf at the time was working at a Humana Hospital. It was the damnnest thing,she would work a single shift/double shift and they would cut a check at the end of the shift.Anyway it was October and she told me that the year was only 3/4 over and this hospital already had about $2.8 million worth of services for non-citizen care including child-birth that they would have to eat(non-payment)" thank-you very much gringo"      Not all illegal aliens are criminals,but everyone of them are economic terrorists.......social services,food stamps,healthcare,wage suppression and jobs,if a DOCA gets a scholarship thats  one that your daughter doesn't get... 


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Are you secure? I'm secure.

I don't know of anyone who is afraid of illegal immigrants & I live north of farking Miami! Most crimes are committed by home grown Americans not immigrants. Do you agree?

So who is afraid & insecure? Do you need a wall around your home?


I was living in Las Vegas,Nev. and my gf at the time was working at a Humana Hospital. It was the damnnest thing,she would work a single shift/double shift and they would cut a check at the end of the shift.Anyway it was October and she told me that the year was only 3/4 over and this hospital already had about $2.8 million worth of services for non-citizen care including child-birth that they would have to eat(non-payment)" thank-you very much gringo"      Not all illegal aliens are criminals,but everyone of them are economic terrorists.......social services,food stamps,healthcare,wage suppression and jobs,if a DOCA gets a scholarship thats  one that your daughter doesn't get... 


 
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666els - see my comment above. 

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666els - see my comment above. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by faceoff:

Where are all Obummer's CZARS these days... He had 15 Czars at one time...    Michelle Obama is the queen of 'animal porn'...
I thought we had mods around here. Unless you can produce unimpeachable evidence I think you have stepped over a line that should not be crossed. JMHO

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Where are all Obummer's CZARS these days... He had 15 Czars at one time...    Michelle Obama is the queen of 'animal porn'...
I thought we had mods around here. Unless you can produce unimpeachable evidence I think you have stepped over a line that should not be crossed. JMHO

 
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Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

       Not all illegal aliens are criminals,but everyone of them are economic terrorists.......social services,food stamps,healthcare,wage suppression and jobs,if a DOCA gets a scholarship thats  one that your daughter doesn't get...

Most economists consider illegal immigrants as workers and consumers to be positive for economy in the long run.  According to Cato institute, illegal immigrants pay billions more in taxes than they receive in benefits.  They are ineligible for welfare, medicaid, medicare and food stamps.  According to US chamber of commerce, illegal immigrants typically do not compete for jobs with native born citizens.  They fill shortages in labor markets, boost wages and create jobs by more spending in economy.  States with large number of immigrants have lower unemployment rates. 

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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

       Not all illegal aliens are criminals,but everyone of them are economic terrorists.......social services,food stamps,healthcare,wage suppression and jobs,if a DOCA gets a scholarship thats  one that your daughter doesn't get...

Most economists consider illegal immigrants as workers and consumers to be positive for economy in the long run.  According to Cato institute, illegal immigrants pay billions more in taxes than they receive in benefits.  They are ineligible for welfare, medicaid, medicare and food stamps.  According to US chamber of commerce, illegal immigrants typically do not compete for jobs with native born citizens.  They fill shortages in labor markets, boost wages and create jobs by more spending in economy.  States with large number of immigrants have lower unemployment rates. 

 
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In 2017,  FBI started investigating whether Trump is working for Russia according to New York times.  But investigations could only proceed if justice department gave approval first.  Apparently, early evidences of collusion and obstruction of justice are sufficient.  Later, their findings went to Mueller to continue investigations.
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In 2017,  FBI started investigating whether Trump is working for Russia according to New York times.  But investigations could only proceed if justice department gave approval first.  Apparently, early evidences of collusion and obstruction of justice are sufficient.  Later, their findings went to Mueller to continue investigations.
 
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President Trump is a secret agent man...now everything makes sense.. 

Johnny Rivers ..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iaR3WO71j4
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President Trump is a secret agent man...now everything makes sense.. 

Johnny Rivers ..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iaR3WO71j4
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The narrative Kerry Obama administration were crafting in their echo chambers were that trumps campaign and Moscow were working together. 

They tapped Trumptowers and found mannafarr and Flynn were working for the Russia and Trump fired them. 

Then it morphed that Russia was addicted to Moscow hookers and couldn't wait for the next lady to piss on him. 

Putin responded saying Moscow must have the best hookers in the world. Which he wouldn't publicldeny..

Then Kushner double day needed a loan went to the Russian banks a made a deal in the West wing.Kushe lost his clearances. 

Russia hacked the sync and exposed pizza gate Arrange fro. Wiki leaks with his own axe to grind stated the password should not be password on thednc computer.  Comey dismissing Trump would ever become President focused on the incoming sex gate with wieners new emails days before Clinton was to be elected then everything went horribly wrong and comey f the shit out of old Donnie with Mueller in his way out to retirement. t

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The narrative Kerry Obama administration were crafting in their echo chambers were that trumps campaign and Moscow were working together. 

They tapped Trumptowers and found mannafarr and Flynn were working for the Russia and Trump fired them. 

Then it morphed that Russia was addicted to Moscow hookers and couldn't wait for the next lady to piss on him. 

Putin responded saying Moscow must have the best hookers in the world. Which he wouldn't publicldeny..

Then Kushner double day needed a loan went to the Russian banks a made a deal in the West wing.Kushe lost his clearances. 

Russia hacked the sync and exposed pizza gate Arrange fro. Wiki leaks with his own axe to grind stated the password should not be password on thednc computer.  Comey dismissing Trump would ever become President focused on the incoming sex gate with wieners new emails days before Clinton was to be elected then everything went horribly wrong and comey f the shit out of old Donnie with Mueller in his way out to retirement. t

 
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Reality is that the constitution does not matter which discusses the president removal other than impeachment or unelected to a second term or term limit out.

 

It covers high crimes and misdemeanors with impeachment.  Once Donnie becomes a private citizen he can be held to law and courts again.

Powers of the executive branch grew aesthetically but that is because Congress neutered. Where congress has not functioned since 1990's executive orders have replaced legislation in governance of spending. 

We have so many defensecontractors making countless dollars that we need to raise the debt ceiling by a trillion every 6 months to keep up with it all. 

800,000 government workers affecting 300,000,000 American citizens lives did not get paid this Friday whether they work or not.Nor does next Friday look so good.

Guess you have to see McConnell when he wants to bring up some kind of legislation the Senate can vote for then the Senate and the house to come to some solution and trumps signs it. Pelosi and the house made a bill sent tot to the Senate the Senate can modify it pass it and send it back to house when both governing bodies agree it goes to the president to sign or not to sign. 

Maybe that was the ideal unrealistic way they did things in th80-90'zs but maybe give that old way a shot again. We are shut down not because of Donnie wall. We are shut down because here is a shocker Mitch McConnell does not want anything done.

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Reality is that the constitution does not matter which discusses the president removal other than impeachment or unelected to a second term or term limit out.

 

It covers high crimes and misdemeanors with impeachment.  Once Donnie becomes a private citizen he can be held to law and courts again.

Powers of the executive branch grew aesthetically but that is because Congress neutered. Where congress has not functioned since 1990's executive orders have replaced legislation in governance of spending. 

We have so many defensecontractors making countless dollars that we need to raise the debt ceiling by a trillion every 6 months to keep up with it all. 

800,000 government workers affecting 300,000,000 American citizens lives did not get paid this Friday whether they work or not.Nor does next Friday look so good.

Guess you have to see McConnell when he wants to bring up some kind of legislation the Senate can vote for then the Senate and the house to come to some solution and trumps signs it. Pelosi and the house made a bill sent tot to the Senate the Senate can modify it pass it and send it back to house when both governing bodies agree it goes to the president to sign or not to sign. 

Maybe that was the ideal unrealistic way they did things in th80-90'zs but maybe give that old way a shot again. We are shut down not because of Donnie wall. We are shut down because here is a shocker Mitch McConnell does not want anything done.

 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

Most economists consider illegal immigrants as workers and consumers to be positive for economy in the long run.  According to Cato institute, illegal immigrants pay billions more in taxes than they receive in benefits.  They are ineligible for welfare, medicaid, medicare and food stamps.  According to US chamber of commerce, illegal immigrants typically do not compete for jobs with native born citizens.  They fill shortages in labor markets, boost wages and create jobs by more spending in economy.  States with large number of immigrants have lower unemployment rates. 


$2.8million at 1 urban hospital in Nevada of services rendered to non-citizens....badges!! we don't need no stinking badges!!
Quoting the Chamber of Commerce about the effects of a serf class and the impact on Legal Workers vs Illegal Workers is an exercise fraught with  bias.
Legal American Workers in Southern California (painters,landscapers,construction) either have to compete for jobs that haven't had a raise in 10 years or wrangle posses of illegals to bid on jobs.
Chamber of Commerce  "Blah,Blah, Woof,Woof"  Jobs Americans don't want to do???

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Most economists consider illegal immigrants as workers and consumers to be positive for economy in the long run.  According to Cato institute, illegal immigrants pay billions more in taxes than they receive in benefits.  They are ineligible for welfare, medicaid, medicare and food stamps.  According to US chamber of commerce, illegal immigrants typically do not compete for jobs with native born citizens.  They fill shortages in labor markets, boost wages and create jobs by more spending in economy.  States with large number of immigrants have lower unemployment rates. 


$2.8million at 1 urban hospital in Nevada of services rendered to non-citizens....badges!! we don't need no stinking badges!!
Quoting the Chamber of Commerce about the effects of a serf class and the impact on Legal Workers vs Illegal Workers is an exercise fraught with  bias.
Legal American Workers in Southern California (painters,landscapers,construction) either have to compete for jobs that haven't had a raise in 10 years or wrangle posses of illegals to bid on jobs.
Chamber of Commerce  "Blah,Blah, Woof,Woof"  Jobs Americans don't want to do???

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