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    Oregon's son sues DHS marshal service and Federal border customs.

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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2020 - 1:27 PM ET #1

    Updated at 11:49 a.m. ET

    The Oregon Department of Justice is suing several federal agencies for civil rights abuses, and state prosecutors will potentially pursue criminal charges against a federal officer who seriously injured a protester.

    The federal lawsuit names the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the U.S. Marshals Service, the United States Customs and Border Protection and the Federal Protective Service, agencies that have had a role in stepped-up force used against protesters since early July. The state filed the lawsuit late Friday night.

    It lists defendants specifically as John Does 1-10 because the "identity of the officers is not known, nor is their agency affiliation," the lawsuit states.

    According to Oregon DOJ spokeswoman Kristina Edmunson, the suit accuses the agencies of engaging "in unlawful law enforcement in violation of the civil rights of Oregon citizens by seizing and detaining them without probable cause

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    Updated at 11:49 a.m. ET

    The Oregon Department of Justice is suing several federal agencies for civil rights abuses, and state prosecutors will potentially pursue criminal charges against a federal officer who seriously injured a protester.

    The federal lawsuit names the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the U.S. Marshals Service, the United States Customs and Border Protection and the Federal Protective Service, agencies that have had a role in stepped-up force used against protesters since early July. The state filed the lawsuit late Friday night.

    It lists defendants specifically as John Does 1-10 because the "identity of the officers is not known, nor is their agency affiliation," the lawsuit states.

    According to Oregon DOJ spokeswoman Kristina Edmunson, the suit accuses the agencies of engaging "in unlawful law enforcement in violation of the civil rights of Oregon citizens by seizing and detaining them without probable cause

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2020 - 1:30 PM ET #2

    Joining lawsuits filed by aclu and us attorneys request for a formal investigation into the constitutionality of the conduct of DHS.

    This should be decided before Trump unleashes this force nationwide.

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    Joining lawsuits filed by aclu and us attorneys request for a formal investigation into the constitutionality of the conduct of DHS.

    This should be decided before Trump unleashes this force nationwide.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2020 - 1:58 PM ET #3

    Portland Police Chief Chuck Lovell said the city department has contact with the federal personnel, but local officers still can't control the behaviour of the militarised troops.

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    Portland Police Chief Chuck Lovell said the city department has contact with the federal personnel, but local officers still can't control the behaviour of the militarised troops.

     
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    The heavy federal presence has drawn criticisms from Democratic lawmakers, local leaders and civil rights groups. House speaker Nancy Pelosi tweeted that "Trump & his stormtroopers must be stopped."

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Massachusetts, compared the unidentified federal officers to a "secret police force." Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Connecticut, called the incident involving Pettibone "chilling," and Sen. Jeff Merkley, D-Oregon, described it as "authoritarian."

    Merkley and other lawmakers from Oregon are asking the inspectors general of the Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security to investigate, decrying the “unrequested presence and violent actions” of federal officers in Portland.

    “The jarring reports of federal law enforcement officers grabbing peaceful protesters off the street should alarm every single American. This is not the way a government operates in a functioning democracy,” Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Oregon, said in a statement.

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    The heavy federal presence has drawn criticisms from Democratic lawmakers, local leaders and civil rights groups. House speaker Nancy Pelosi tweeted that "Trump & his stormtroopers must be stopped."

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Massachusetts, compared the unidentified federal officers to a "secret police force." Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Connecticut, called the incident involving Pettibone "chilling," and Sen. Jeff Merkley, D-Oregon, described it as "authoritarian."

    Merkley and other lawmakers from Oregon are asking the inspectors general of the Justice Department and the Department of Homeland Security to investigate, decrying the “unrequested presence and violent actions” of federal officers in Portland.

    “The jarring reports of federal law enforcement officers grabbing peaceful protesters off the street should alarm every single American. This is not the way a government operates in a functioning democracy,” Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Oregon, said in a statement.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2020 - 3:17 PM ET #5

    I doubt,if they will win this law suit..CBP agents were sent to Portland to protect federal property. Federal agencies active in Portland were protecting the Hatfield Federal Courthouse.

    Arresting "peaceful protesters" suspected of assaults against federal agents or destruction of federal property. HS Secretary Chad Wolf described nearly 100 incidents allegedly perpetrated by these "peaceful protesters" mostly vandalism of the courthouse and other federal buildings. 

    From what I understand the president does not need a request from a state to use federal armed forces for domestic law enforcement under the Insurrection Act....

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    I doubt,if they will win this law suit..CBP agents were sent to Portland to protect federal property. Federal agencies active in Portland were protecting the Hatfield Federal Courthouse.

    Arresting "peaceful protesters" suspected of assaults against federal agents or destruction of federal property. HS Secretary Chad Wolf described nearly 100 incidents allegedly perpetrated by these "peaceful protesters" mostly vandalism of the courthouse and other federal buildings. 

    From what I understand the president does not need a request from a state to use federal armed forces for domestic law enforcement under the Insurrection Act....

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2020 - 4:02 PM ET #6

    I love it when the Democrats, seemingly backing Antifa, looting and militant BLM protesters scream about the Federal government protecting federal agencies. Stormtroopers ? Now that is funny. What I think truly needs to happen is Trump sends in more so-called “ stormtroopers “ and they mistakenly open fire on these Sandinista inspired groups of insurrectionists. 

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    I love it when the Democrats, seemingly backing Antifa, looting and militant BLM protesters scream about the Federal government protecting federal agencies. Stormtroopers ? Now that is funny. What I think truly needs to happen is Trump sends in more so-called “ stormtroopers “ and they mistakenly open fire on these Sandinista inspired groups of insurrectionists. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2020 - 5:27 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    I doubt,if they will win this law suit..CBP agents were sent to Portland to protect federal property. Federal agencies active in Portland were protecting the Hatfield Federal Courthouse. Arresting "peaceful protesters" suspected of assaults against federal agents or destruction of federal property. HS Secretary Chad Wolf described nearly 100 incidents allegedly perpetrated by these "peaceful protesters" mostly vandalism of the courthouse and other federal buildings.  From what I understand the president does not need a request from a state to use federal armed forces for domestic law enforcement under the Insurrection Act....

    Yes they are in authority to protect federal property. But they can not assist local police without legislation from the state requesting it one posse law. They must wear the official uniform from the agency they represent. Uniform laws.

    This is illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    I doubt,if they will win this law suit..CBP agents were sent to Portland to protect federal property. Federal agencies active in Portland were protecting the Hatfield Federal Courthouse. Arresting "peaceful protesters" suspected of assaults against federal agents or destruction of federal property. HS Secretary Chad Wolf described nearly 100 incidents allegedly perpetrated by these "peaceful protesters" mostly vandalism of the courthouse and other federal buildings.  From what I understand the president does not need a request from a state to use federal armed forces for domestic law enforcement under the Insurrection Act....

    Yes they are in authority to protect federal property. But they can not assist local police without legislation from the state requesting it one posse law. They must wear the official uniform from the agency they represent. Uniform laws.

    This is illegal.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2020 - 5:30 PM ET #8

    Stop and frisk theybare kidnapping people in unmarked cars and qouldnt even give up who they were or where they are taking individuals.

     

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    Stop and frisk theybare kidnapping people in unmarked cars and qouldnt even give up who they were or where they are taking individuals.

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2020 - 5:42 PM ET #9

    Portland mayor.

    https://youtu.be/jjK6pw9HYww

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    Portland mayor.

    https://youtu.be/jjK6pw9HYww

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2020 - 5:54 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    I doubt,if they will win this law suit..CBP agents were sent to Portland to protect federal property. Federal agencies active in Portland were protecting the Hatfield Federal Courthouse. Arresting "peaceful protesters" suspected of assaults against federal agents or destruction of federal property. HS Secretary Chad Wolf described nearly 100 incidents allegedly perpetrated by these "peaceful protesters" mostly vandalism of the courthouse and other federal buildings.  From what I understand the president does not need a request from a state to use federal armed forces for domestic law enforcement under the Insurrection Act....

    It's pretty clear on how the military can be used.

    The Constitution permits Congress to authorize the use of the militia “to execute the Laws of the Union

    Congress is not executive branch.

    Posse Comitatus Act is violated when (1) civilian law enforcement officials make “direct active use” of military investigators; or (2) the use of the military “pervades the activities” of the civilian officials; or (3) the military is used so as to subject “citizens to the exercise of military power which was regulatory, prescriptive, or compulsory in nature.” The act is not violated when the Armed Forces conduct activities for a military purpose

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    I doubt,if they will win this law suit..CBP agents were sent to Portland to protect federal property. Federal agencies active in Portland were protecting the Hatfield Federal Courthouse. Arresting "peaceful protesters" suspected of assaults against federal agents or destruction of federal property. HS Secretary Chad Wolf described nearly 100 incidents allegedly perpetrated by these "peaceful protesters" mostly vandalism of the courthouse and other federal buildings.  From what I understand the president does not need a request from a state to use federal armed forces for domestic law enforcement under the Insurrection Act....

    It's pretty clear on how the military can be used.

    The Constitution permits Congress to authorize the use of the militia “to execute the Laws of the Union

    Congress is not executive branch.

    Posse Comitatus Act is violated when (1) civilian law enforcement officials make “direct active use” of military investigators; or (2) the use of the military “pervades the activities” of the civilian officials; or (3) the military is used so as to subject “citizens to the exercise of military power which was regulatory, prescriptive, or compulsory in nature.” The act is not violated when the Armed Forces conduct activities for a military purpose

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2020 - 5:57 PM ET #11

    It's not really a grey area this is illegal conduct.

    And law enforcement personal should not be abuse. By ordered to commit such an aggevious unlawful act.

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    It's not really a grey area this is illegal conduct.

    And law enforcement personal should not be abuse. By ordered to commit such an aggevious unlawful act.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2020 - 7:57 PM ET #12

    Dude it's a shit show .... Democratic city allowing this.  Wake up... they will do anything to make their party to be the savior.   One toke  I agree  shoot em all.. 

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    Dude it's a shit show .... Democratic city allowing this.  Wake up... they will do anything to make their party to be the savior.   One toke  I agree  shoot em all.. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2020 - 8:19 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Dude it's a shit show .... Democratic city allowing this.  Wake up... they will do anything to make their party to be the savior.   One toke  I agree  shoot em all..

     

    Not all of them. Haha. Just the ones wearing masks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Dude it's a shit show .... Democratic city allowing this.  Wake up... they will do anything to make their party to be the savior.   One toke  I agree  shoot em all..

     

    Not all of them. Haha. Just the ones wearing masks.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2020 - 9:06 PM ET #14

    Are those are the feds.... 

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    Are those are the feds.... 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2020 - 9:07 PM ET #15

    The ones in full masked riot gear .... 

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    The ones in full masked riot gear .... 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2020 - 10:22 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Dude it's a shit show .... Democratic city allowing this.  Wake up... they will do anything to make their party to be the savior.   One toke  I agree  shoot em all..

    You agree because the both of you are keyboard tough guys, which means you're both cowards that would never bust a grape nor have the balls to shoot anyone yourselves. I'm not defendind rioters. Nor do I have sympathy for them. Shooting indiscriminantly into crowds of protestors isn't the answer though. That stuff's just the wet dreams of guys who sit at home all day watching action movies and playing video games... and jerking off because they can't get women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Dude it's a shit show .... Democratic city allowing this.  Wake up... they will do anything to make their party to be the savior.   One toke  I agree  shoot em all..

    You agree because the both of you are keyboard tough guys, which means you're both cowards that would never bust a grape nor have the balls to shoot anyone yourselves. I'm not defendind rioters. Nor do I have sympathy for them. Shooting indiscriminantly into crowds of protestors isn't the answer though. That stuff's just the wet dreams of guys who sit at home all day watching action movies and playing video games... and jerking off because they can't get women.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2020 - 2:23 AM ET #17

    Neither one of us want to see innocent protestors shot. I believe we were talking about The Antifa mobs and the rioters, looters. Maybe a few flame throwers would be better though.

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    Neither one of us want to see innocent protestors shot. I believe we were talking about The Antifa mobs and the rioters, looters. Maybe a few flame throwers would be better though.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke:

    Neither one of us want to see innocent protestors shot. I believe we were talking about The Antifa mobs and the rioters, looters. Maybe a few flame throwers would be better though.

    Flamethrowers?? Stop playing videogames. Get out and get laid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke:

    Neither one of us want to see innocent protestors shot. I believe we were talking about The Antifa mobs and the rioters, looters. Maybe a few flame throwers would be better though.

    Flamethrowers?? Stop playing videogames. Get out and get laid.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2020 - 2:00 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Neither one of us want to see innocent protestors shot. I believe we were talking about The Antifa mobs and the rioters, looters. Maybe a few flame throwers would be better though. Flamethrowers?? Stop playing videogames. Get out and get laid.

     

    My wife thinks your funny. One of the things she said. “ tell him to try and use the brain behind his eyes for a change”. I won’t tell you what other diatribes she had. I told her it is all in fun. No sense worrying about what we have no control over. It is just politics. We make the best we can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Neither one of us want to see innocent protestors shot. I believe we were talking about The Antifa mobs and the rioters, looters. Maybe a few flame throwers would be better though. Flamethrowers?? Stop playing videogames. Get out and get laid.

     

    My wife thinks your funny. One of the things she said. “ tell him to try and use the brain behind his eyes for a change”. I won’t tell you what other diatribes she had. I told her it is all in fun. No sense worrying about what we have no control over. It is just politics. We make the best we can.

     
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    Stu.... keyboard tough guys?  You know nothing about me or anyone else.  I can speak for myself.  I have worked in some of the worst shitholes in probably the toughest cities.   I have taken and giving best downs protests ting the innocent.   I have no regrets nor apologies.   Todays youth been raised to believe they are entitled.   They are arrogant and pompous and instigate problems.  When they cant finish what they started.   Blame everyone else but themselves.  They have no discipline.    I deal with them everyday.    

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    Stu.... keyboard tough guys?  You know nothing about me or anyone else.  I can speak for myself.  I have worked in some of the worst shitholes in probably the toughest cities.   I have taken and giving best downs protests ting the innocent.   I have no regrets nor apologies.   Todays youth been raised to believe they are entitled.   They are arrogant and pompous and instigate problems.  When they cant finish what they started.   Blame everyone else but themselves.  They have no discipline.    I deal with them everyday.    

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Neither one of us want to see innocent protestors shot. I believe we were talking about The Antifa mobs and the rioters, looters. Maybe a few flame throwers would be better though. Flamethrowers?? Stop playing videogames. Get out and get laid.   My wife thinks your funny. One of the things she said. “ tell him to try and use the brain behind his eyes for a change”. I won’t tell you what other diatribes she had. I told her it is all in fun. No sense worrying about what we have no control over. It is just politics. We make the best we can.

    The fact you are talking about me to your wife makes me seriously doubt that you have a wife. I'll humor you though. What exactly that i've said led her to the conclusion that I haven't been using my brain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Neither one of us want to see innocent protestors shot. I believe we were talking about The Antifa mobs and the rioters, looters. Maybe a few flame throwers would be better though. Flamethrowers?? Stop playing videogames. Get out and get laid.   My wife thinks your funny. One of the things she said. “ tell him to try and use the brain behind his eyes for a change”. I won’t tell you what other diatribes she had. I told her it is all in fun. No sense worrying about what we have no control over. It is just politics. We make the best we can.

    The fact you are talking about me to your wife makes me seriously doubt that you have a wife. I'll humor you though. What exactly that i've said led her to the conclusion that I haven't been using my brain?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Stu.... keyboard tough guys?  You know nothing about me or anyone else.  I can speak for myself.  I have worked in some of the worst shitholes in probably the toughest cities.   I have taken and giving best downs protests ting the innocent.   I have no regrets nor apologies.   Todays youth been raised to believe they are entitled.   They are arrogant and pompous and instigate problems.  When they cant finish what they started.   Blame everyone else but themselves.  They have no discipline.    I deal with them everyday.

    I agree. It still doesn't justify firing on protestors. Look, I don't support riots or rioters. I think this shit has been out of hand for far too long and sometimes a firm hand is necessary. I'm not speaking from a place of sympathy, i'm speaking from a place of empathy. Screw that, i'm speaking from a place of common sense and decency. And anyone who would condone firing of protestors, even suggesting it in jest, lacks both. And ..."working in some of the worst shitholes..." doesn't negate this, nor does it add validity to your point. What does that even have to do with anything? Last I checked, this was still the land of the free. What you're siggesting is communist dictatorship 101. Maybe that's what you aspire to. Maybe you want us to be just like China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    Stu.... keyboard tough guys?  You know nothing about me or anyone else.  I can speak for myself.  I have worked in some of the worst shitholes in probably the toughest cities.   I have taken and giving best downs protests ting the innocent.   I have no regrets nor apologies.   Todays youth been raised to believe they are entitled.   They are arrogant and pompous and instigate problems.  When they cant finish what they started.   Blame everyone else but themselves.  They have no discipline.    I deal with them everyday.

    I agree. It still doesn't justify firing on protestors. Look, I don't support riots or rioters. I think this shit has been out of hand for far too long and sometimes a firm hand is necessary. I'm not speaking from a place of sympathy, i'm speaking from a place of empathy. Screw that, i'm speaking from a place of common sense and decency. And anyone who would condone firing of protestors, even suggesting it in jest, lacks both. And ..."working in some of the worst shitholes..." doesn't negate this, nor does it add validity to your point. What does that even have to do with anything? Last I checked, this was still the land of the free. What you're siggesting is communist dictatorship 101. Maybe that's what you aspire to. Maybe you want us to be just like China.

     
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    Stu ..  working with inner city youth programs, coaching, I see minority trying and getting bullied by their majority.    I .am tired of this .   It's a big sandbox and it fits all, can we all play nice??   I'm not perfect  by any means.    What I have learned is completely different than that is portrayed by media.  All media should be held accountable,  since they are majority of reason why for all this crap.  Would love to see any tv personality due some hard time for inciting the public.   I believe deep down we are all decent humans.   Be safe ,  hope your weekend was enjoyable 

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    Stu ..  working with inner city youth programs, coaching, I see minority trying and getting bullied by their majority.    I .am tired of this .   It's a big sandbox and it fits all, can we all play nice??   I'm not perfect  by any means.    What I have learned is completely different than that is portrayed by media.  All media should be held accountable,  since they are majority of reason why for all this crap.  Would love to see any tv personality due some hard time for inciting the public.   I believe deep down we are all decent humans.   Be safe ,  hope your weekend was enjoyable 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Neither one of us want to see innocent protestors shot. I believe we were talking about The Antifa mobs and the rioters, looters. Maybe a few flame throwers would be better though. Flamethrowers?? Stop playing videogames. Get out and get laid.   My wife thinks your funny. One of the things she said. “ tell him to try and use the brain behind his eyes for a change”. I won’t tell you what other diatribes she had. I told her it is all in fun. No sense worrying about what we have no control over. It is just politics. We make the best we can. The fact you are talking about me to your wife makes me seriously doubt that you have a wife. I'll humor you though. What exactly that i've said led her to the conclusion that I haven't been using my brain?

     

    She thinks by someone telling me I Need to go out and get laid is something only a true lonely man would say. I was not talking about you specifically, so don’t go thinking your anything better than anyone else. I told her I needed to go out and get laid and she laughed. Now with this admonition of yourself thinking you are better than Scooby and me is a tell tale sign of a lonely and depressed person. This is a nice friendly forum. Why do you have to go attack people and ruin it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Neither one of us want to see innocent protestors shot. I believe we were talking about The Antifa mobs and the rioters, looters. Maybe a few flame throwers would be better though. Flamethrowers?? Stop playing videogames. Get out and get laid.   My wife thinks your funny. One of the things she said. “ tell him to try and use the brain behind his eyes for a change”. I won’t tell you what other diatribes she had. I told her it is all in fun. No sense worrying about what we have no control over. It is just politics. We make the best we can. The fact you are talking about me to your wife makes me seriously doubt that you have a wife. I'll humor you though. What exactly that i've said led her to the conclusion that I haven't been using my brain?

     

    She thinks by someone telling me I Need to go out and get laid is something only a true lonely man would say. I was not talking about you specifically, so don’t go thinking your anything better than anyone else. I told her I needed to go out and get laid and she laughed. Now with this admonition of yourself thinking you are better than Scooby and me is a tell tale sign of a lonely and depressed person. This is a nice friendly forum. Why do you have to go attack people and ruin it.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Neither one of us want to see innocent protestors shot. I believe we were talking about The Antifa mobs and the rioters, looters. Maybe a few flame throwers would be better though. Flamethrowers?? Stop playing videogames. Get out and get laid.   My wife thinks your funny. One of the things she said. “ tell him to try and use the brain behind his eyes for a change”. I won’t tell you what other diatribes she had. I told her it is all in fun. No sense worrying about what we have no control over. It is just politics. We make the best we can. The fact you are talking about me to your wife makes me seriously doubt that you have a wife. I'll humor you though. What exactly that i've said led her to the conclusion that I haven't been using my brain?   She thinks by someone telling me I Need to go out and get laid is something only a true lonely man would say. I was not talking about you specifically, so don’t go thinking your anything better than anyone else. I told her I needed to go out and get laid and she laughed. Now with this admonition of yourself thinking you are better than Scooby and me is a tell tale sign of a lonely and depressed person. This is a nice friendly forum. Why do you have to go attack people and ruin it.

    I never said I was better than anyone. I simply said if you're the type that thinks the government should fire on protestors, you have issues. And maybe you would feel at home in a country like China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Onetoke: Neither one of us want to see innocent protestors shot. I believe we were talking about The Antifa mobs and the rioters, looters. Maybe a few flame throwers would be better though. Flamethrowers?? Stop playing videogames. Get out and get laid.   My wife thinks your funny. One of the things she said. “ tell him to try and use the brain behind his eyes for a change”. I won’t tell you what other diatribes she had. I told her it is all in fun. No sense worrying about what we have no control over. It is just politics. We make the best we can. The fact you are talking about me to your wife makes me seriously doubt that you have a wife. I'll humor you though. What exactly that i've said led her to the conclusion that I haven't been using my brain?   She thinks by someone telling me I Need to go out and get laid is something only a true lonely man would say. I was not talking about you specifically, so don’t go thinking your anything better than anyone else. I told her I needed to go out and get laid and she laughed. Now with this admonition of yourself thinking you are better than Scooby and me is a tell tale sign of a lonely and depressed person. This is a nice friendly forum. Why do you have to go attack people and ruin it.

    I never said I was better than anyone. I simply said if you're the type that thinks the government should fire on protestors, you have issues. And maybe you would feel at home in a country like China.

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