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    14daroad
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2013 - 11:04 AM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    In post #27 it seemed that you were implying that you do not agree that everybody should have health care.  

    If I read it incorrectly than 

    What I'm against is the government giving everyone "health care" (note: the government is capable of no such thing) or attempting to.
    Or mandating it.

    The federal government needs to get out of the health care market entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:


    In post #27 it seemed that you were implying that you do not agree that everybody should have health care.  

    If I read it incorrectly than 

    What I'm against is the government giving everyone "health care" (note: the government is capable of no such thing) or attempting to.
    Or mandating it.

    The federal government needs to get out of the health care market entirely.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2013 - 11:26 AM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:



    Yes, "good point" if you ignore the fact that Aetna is the one raising rates.

    I mean, you totally brought up a good analogy.

    Really, you did.

    The basis for a health insurance company raising rates would be solely because of increases in medical costs.

    Health insurance would not be impacted by environment, prices of fuel, supply/demand, etc.

    Stating now that rates will rise presumes they will be paying our more for costs. That may be true, but it lacks the certainty necessary for making such a claim. Therein lies the correlation.

    I have complete control over my hourly rate. If I choose to increase it because I feel they need to do so, I can. Projecting an increase next year over unknown factors would render my projection somewhat capricious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:



    Yes, "good point" if you ignore the fact that Aetna is the one raising rates.

    I mean, you totally brought up a good analogy.

    Really, you did.

    The basis for a health insurance company raising rates would be solely because of increases in medical costs.

    Health insurance would not be impacted by environment, prices of fuel, supply/demand, etc.

    Stating now that rates will rise presumes they will be paying our more for costs. That may be true, but it lacks the certainty necessary for making such a claim. Therein lies the correlation.

    I have complete control over my hourly rate. If I choose to increase it because I feel they need to do so, I can. Projecting an increase next year over unknown factors would render my projection somewhat capricious.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2013 - 11:50 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



    The cost offsets I reference come from employers who choose to contribute to the HC plan they offer. I dont think I mentioned anything with regards to the government.

    My opinion as I have stated enough that you and all should know is that we failed to plan early in the process because people then and now are not interested in preparing for a future goal when that goal has a current cost..so we could have been in front of the cost issue with better past planning. So with that in mind we are now in a worse position because of those bad choices. If we do not get in front of the issue now then it will continue to be worse, because we know and it is obvious that HC inflation outpaces general inflation..so the LONGER we wait the worse it gets.

    I think there are certain things in life that have costs and you cannot avoid certain costs irregardless of your opinion about the level of merit that cost has..because barring sudden death we ALL need healthcare. Usually those who are complaining the most are either extremely narrow minded and selfish or are too young to see the need for planning and preparing..and they are not willing to contribute and plan for THEIR future because they see it as a burden and unnecessary.

    Life usually alters our perception..what 14 and others in this thread are saying now I guarantee they will not be saying 15-20 yrs from now.


    Why, and how does this happen? How does PPACA address this "problem"
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:



    The cost offsets I reference come from employers who choose to contribute to the HC plan they offer. I dont think I mentioned anything with regards to the government.

    My opinion as I have stated enough that you and all should know is that we failed to plan early in the process because people then and now are not interested in preparing for a future goal when that goal has a current cost..so we could have been in front of the cost issue with better past planning. So with that in mind we are now in a worse position because of those bad choices. If we do not get in front of the issue now then it will continue to be worse, because we know and it is obvious that HC inflation outpaces general inflation..so the LONGER we wait the worse it gets.

    I think there are certain things in life that have costs and you cannot avoid certain costs irregardless of your opinion about the level of merit that cost has..because barring sudden death we ALL need healthcare. Usually those who are complaining the most are either extremely narrow minded and selfish or are too young to see the need for planning and preparing..and they are not willing to contribute and plan for THEIR future because they see it as a burden and unnecessary.

    Life usually alters our perception..what 14 and others in this thread are saying now I guarantee they will not be saying 15-20 yrs from now.


    Why, and how does this happen? How does PPACA address this "problem"
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2013 - 11:53 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    The basis for a health insurance company raising rates would be solely because of increases in medical costs.

    Health insurance would not be impacted by environment, prices of fuel, supply/demand, etc.

    Stating now that rates will rise presumes they will be paying our more for costs. That may be true, but it lacks the certainty necessary for making such a claim. Therein lies the correlation.

    I have complete control over my hourly rate. If I choose to increase it because I feel they need to do so, I can. Projecting an increase next year over unknown factors would render my projection somewhat capricious.



    solely because of increases in medical costs?
    yet decoupled from price increases in local land values, fuel etc.?

    how do you figure? PPACA assures that prices will rise across the board. That's the entire point of the law in the first place,,,,,
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    The basis for a health insurance company raising rates would be solely because of increases in medical costs.

    Health insurance would not be impacted by environment, prices of fuel, supply/demand, etc.

    Stating now that rates will rise presumes they will be paying our more for costs. That may be true, but it lacks the certainty necessary for making such a claim. Therein lies the correlation.

    I have complete control over my hourly rate. If I choose to increase it because I feel they need to do so, I can. Projecting an increase next year over unknown factors would render my projection somewhat capricious.



    solely because of increases in medical costs?
    yet decoupled from price increases in local land values, fuel etc.?

    how do you figure? PPACA assures that prices will rise across the board. That's the entire point of the law in the first place,,,,,
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2013 - 11:59 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    you lost me after the darryl talk that starts up whenever you go into 
    your "childish team/crew  Bailout games"...  the rest sounds like more blah blah blah about your "circle jerk"...

    Also when it is that I call myself "a conservative"? 

    I think we differ in that you use conservative as a noun while I view it as an adjective...  huge difference there in how we think...

    but please... carry on with the bowslit games... maybe we can have a nurse rachett appearance that seems to happen when your psychotic meltdown starts up...


    Cano

    For some odd/dumb reason its only considered a game if someone other than him does it.

    He mysteriously gives himself a pass to play whatever games he wants to and expects nobody to notice.

    Pointing these double standards out to him only brings on childish meltdown accusations.

    Hmm....looks like the meltdown accusations have already taken off.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    you lost me after the darryl talk that starts up whenever you go into 
    your "childish team/crew  Bailout games"...  the rest sounds like more blah blah blah about your "circle jerk"...

    Also when it is that I call myself "a conservative"? 

    I think we differ in that you use conservative as a noun while I view it as an adjective...  huge difference there in how we think...

    but please... carry on with the bowslit games... maybe we can have a nurse rachett appearance that seems to happen when your psychotic meltdown starts up...


    Cano

    For some odd/dumb reason its only considered a game if someone other than him does it.

    He mysteriously gives himself a pass to play whatever games he wants to and expects nobody to notice.

    Pointing these double standards out to him only brings on childish meltdown accusations.

    Hmm....looks like the meltdown accusations have already taken off.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2013 - 12:02 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by be easy:



    solely because of increases in medical costs?
    yet decoupled from price increases in local land values, fuel etc.?

    how do you figure? PPACA assures that prices will rise across the board. That's the entire point of the law in the first place,,,,,

    Health insurance rates are directly corrolary to medical costs, for obvious reasons.

    Adding land value tax to the conversation would be like discussing Burmese ancient rituals during a fantasy baseball draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by be easy:



    solely because of increases in medical costs?
    yet decoupled from price increases in local land values, fuel etc.?

    how do you figure? PPACA assures that prices will rise across the board. That's the entire point of the law in the first place,,,,,

    Health insurance rates are directly corrolary to medical costs, for obvious reasons.

    Adding land value tax to the conversation would be like discussing Burmese ancient rituals during a fantasy baseball draft.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2013 - 12:03 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:


    DarryL
    My conservative friend:

    One might say what you are doing "bailing out Stiln" is the same thing you are accusing me of with 14. Now I do agree with 14 and others about Obamacare driving up costs. Numerous posts name govt agencies and provide links. Why don't you go back and re-read them.

    Your "spin" is transparent and it doesn't even work: 
    After I said there were numerous posts refuting stiln's remark about Obamacare bringing down costs you said...
    here's his actual response after stlin's post....
    I say spin because you say that was 14's post right after Stiln's remark, just to limit that particular post to 14's argument to make his argument look bad. The problem is 14 had posts before that naming names and providing links.

    When I said there were numerous posts refuting what Stiln said I wasn't limiting my argument to one post like you were.

    Every time you speak up your true colors show. Stiln is a big government liberal (I think he will admit that) who thinks Obamacare is a good idea. Instead of "bailing out" libs (shout out to you) you should just stay neutral on political issues (like this one since you have never said if you are for it or against it) and just keep telling us you're conservative.



    Darryl would never bail out stiln. No way, I refuse to believe it.
    #sarcasm

    Instead of "bailing out" libs (shout out to you) you should just stay neutral on political issues (like this one since you have never said if you are for it or against it) and just keep telling us you're conservative.



    Actions speak louder than words!
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    Quote Originally Posted by canovsp:


    DarryL
    My conservative friend:

    One might say what you are doing "bailing out Stiln" is the same thing you are accusing me of with 14. Now I do agree with 14 and others about Obamacare driving up costs. Numerous posts name govt agencies and provide links. Why don't you go back and re-read them.

    Your "spin" is transparent and it doesn't even work: 
    After I said there were numerous posts refuting stiln's remark about Obamacare bringing down costs you said...
    here's his actual response after stlin's post....
    I say spin because you say that was 14's post right after Stiln's remark, just to limit that particular post to 14's argument to make his argument look bad. The problem is 14 had posts before that naming names and providing links.

    When I said there were numerous posts refuting what Stiln said I wasn't limiting my argument to one post like you were.

    Every time you speak up your true colors show. Stiln is a big government liberal (I think he will admit that) who thinks Obamacare is a good idea. Instead of "bailing out" libs (shout out to you) you should just stay neutral on political issues (like this one since you have never said if you are for it or against it) and just keep telling us you're conservative.



    Darryl would never bail out stiln. No way, I refuse to believe it.
    #sarcasm

    Instead of "bailing out" libs (shout out to you) you should just stay neutral on political issues (like this one since you have never said if you are for it or against it) and just keep telling us you're conservative.



    Actions speak louder than words!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2013 - 12:24 PM ET #58

    Stating now that rates will rise presumes they will be paying our more for costs. That may be true, but it lacks the certainty necessary for making such a claim. Therein lies the correlation.


    Uh, except for the fact that the CEO of one of the nation's largest insurance companies has already said they are raising premiums in 2014.

    He was quite clear, and even said he informed the government regulators.

    You pretending that is analogous to you possibly getting a raise is silly.

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    Stating now that rates will rise presumes they will be paying our more for costs. That may be true, but it lacks the certainty necessary for making such a claim. Therein lies the correlation.


    Uh, except for the fact that the CEO of one of the nation's largest insurance companies has already said they are raising premiums in 2014.

    He was quite clear, and even said he informed the government regulators.

    You pretending that is analogous to you possibly getting a raise is silly.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2013 - 12:29 PM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    The basis for a health insurance company raising rates would be solely because of increases in medical costs.

    Completely and utterly false. Insurers make annual changes to the prices of their plans to factor in their own cost of doing business, for example.

    Where do you come up with this type of stuff?


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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    The basis for a health insurance company raising rates would be solely because of increases in medical costs.

    Completely and utterly false. Insurers make annual changes to the prices of their plans to factor in their own cost of doing business, for example.

    Where do you come up with this type of stuff?


     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2013 - 1:59 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    Stating now that rates will rise presumes they will be paying our more for costs. That may be true, but it lacks the certainty necessary for making such a claim. Therein lies the correlation.


    Uh, except for the fact that the CEO of one of the nation's largest insurance companies has already said they are raising premiums in 2014.

    He was quite clear, and even said he informed the government regulators.

    You pretending that is analogous to you possibly getting a raise is silly.

    The anology is I control my own rate. If I am projecting that I will raise my rate in January of 2014 based on factors that don't exist yet, I am acting capriciously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    Stating now that rates will rise presumes they will be paying our more for costs. That may be true, but it lacks the certainty necessary for making such a claim. Therein lies the correlation.


    Uh, except for the fact that the CEO of one of the nation's largest insurance companies has already said they are raising premiums in 2014.

    He was quite clear, and even said he informed the government regulators.

    You pretending that is analogous to you possibly getting a raise is silly.

    The anology is I control my own rate. If I am projecting that I will raise my rate in January of 2014 based on factors that don't exist yet, I am acting capriciously.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2013 - 2:00 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    Completely and utterly false. Insurers make annual changes to the prices of their plans to factor in their own cost of doing business, for example.

    Where do you come up with this type of stuff?


    Of course they do. That's different from the anticipated hikes that you are posting about that you are blaming directly on ObamaCare.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

    Completely and utterly false. Insurers make annual changes to the prices of their plans to factor in their own cost of doing business, for example.

    Where do you come up with this type of stuff?


    Of course they do. That's different from the anticipated hikes that you are posting about that you are blaming directly on ObamaCare.

     

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2013 - 2:06 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    The anology is I control my own rate. If I am projecting that I will raise my rate in January of 2014 based on factors that don't exist yet, I am acting capriciously.


    The factors already exist.

    They are written down. The responses to said factors are also written down.

    You are simply disseminating at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    The anology is I control my own rate. If I am projecting that I will raise my rate in January of 2014 based on factors that don't exist yet, I am acting capriciously.


    The factors already exist.

    They are written down. The responses to said factors are also written down.

    You are simply disseminating at this point.
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