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djbrow

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 11:14 AM ET #101

Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

For you, pick.....nose pick.......covers nose

obama voters relying on blind faith and fraud at this point. How deluded would one have to be to think that his presidency has helped the country? So the basic attitude of the obama voter is, fuck all else, just send me my check.

He's pissed you off. That in itself is enough to get my vote.

FrontRowCenter

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 2:51 PM ET #102

I don't think Romney just wins.

He wins in a landslide.

Nobody wants socialism. Nobody wants a president that hates America and is a Marxist. The majority of the people wants to get rid of Obamacare. Nobody likes National Security leaks that are risking lives. Nobody wants a president that turns his nose to 16 trillion in debt.

People do want a president that can turn around the economy.

Romney it is.

Ktrain

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Posted: Jun. 17, 2012 - 2:58 PM ET #103

Quote Originally Posted by FrontRowCenter:

I don't think Romney just wins.

He wins in a landslide.

People do want a president that can turn around the economy.

Romney it is.

Romney may win but it won't be in a landslide. As much as people don't want Obama to win again, people don't want another George Bush either. That is how Romney comes across as. A guy that will hook us cronies at the expense of the taxpayer.

Now we know that Obama is the same type of guy, but he is able to spin it so that it doesn't come across that way.

I think Romney's flip flopping is only going to become a stronger point of emphasis as November draws closer.

I just wish the GOP had nominated an ACTUAL conservative in Ron Paul. Instead of the white Obama.

SarasotaSlim

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Posted: Jun. 18, 2012 - 11:50 PM ET #104

"Obama is a log" alright ..... the first member of Congress outside of Illinois to endorse then-Sen. Obama’s 2008 presidential bid [ Artur Davis once described as “the Obama of Alabama] ...and who seconded the official nomination of Obama at the 2008 Democratic National Convention...is switching parties and voting for Mitt Romney for President of the United States of America....

esplanade

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Posted: Jun. 19, 2012 - 12:30 AM ET #105

Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:

Now we know that Obama is the same type of guy, but he is able to spin it so that it doesn't come across that way.

I think Romney's flip flopping is only going to become a stronger point of emphasis as November draws closer.

I just wish the GOP had nominated an ACTUAL conservative in Ron Paul. Instead of the white Obama.

Circular logic and strawmen. Not strong. Not strong at all.

dl36

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Posted: Jun. 19, 2012 - 2:52 AM ET #106

Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

He's pissed you off. That in itself is enough to get my vote.

MaineRoad

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Posted: Jun. 19, 2012 - 12:44 PM ET #107

Obama won't get a single vote he didn't get in 2008. I don't know if that means he loses, but I think it's basically a true statement.

dl36

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Posted: Jun. 21, 2012 - 3:23 AM ET #108

I get where you are coming from as anyone that wanted mccain/palin in the white house would not switch to voting for obama this time...

but I think you are missing the 18-22 year old voters that did not vote because of age that will be voting this time around... I am guessing at least one of the 18-22 year old voters will vote obama

14daroad

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Posted: Jun. 23, 2012 - 9:51 AM ET #109

currently sitting at -142

Mcmanus

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Posted: Jul. 4, 2012 - 1:36 PM ET #110

-170 now at Pinny for Obama

dl36

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Posted: Jul. 13, 2012 - 7:42 PM ET #111

I wonder if odd are different for books that offer service to the USA vs ones that do not...

ClubDirt

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Posted: Jul. 13, 2012 - 7:49 PM ET #112

last i looked, -162 at pinnacle, -150 at sportsbook.com

LVTruck

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Posted: Jul. 13, 2012 - 8:10 PM ET #113

I tailed you on your 5 Unit bowl game, South Carolina.

I'll follow the Obama steam

dl36

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Posted: Jul. 15, 2012 - 8:43 PM ET #114

Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

last i looked, -162 at pinnacle, -150 at sportsbook.com

I would figure that non-usa books might have a different distribution of money because bettors dont have a dog in the fight... one would think that they would put more money on romney as the underdog and obama not having the same popularity as 2008...

I am wondering also if there USA bettors that might talk/vote romney but bet obama to try to collect the cash

dl36

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Posted: Jul. 22, 2012 - 7:51 PM ET #115

Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:

currently sitting at -142

Im wondering why the line have shifted?

Romney failing?
or
perhaps obama doing well?

dl36

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2012 - 6:24 AM ET #116

what odds do you have now?

ClubDirt

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2012 - 5:53 PM ET #117

Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

what odds do you have now?

all the way up to -198 on pinnacle. highest i've seen it there. did ryan get caught pulling a larry craig yet?

djbrow

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2012 - 9:24 PM ET #118

Club: I saw you raise the question of the failure of a sustained bump from the RNC convention for gambling purposes.After consulting with a friend who is a pretty good analyst, I hedged Obama at -190. It means I will still make money if Obama or Romney wins, but far less.

I think the biggest issue with the convention is the failure of Romney to display the necessary energy to create a lasting buzz. Ryan actually had that kind of speech. It was energetic and connected. The Republicans also gambled on Clint and that was important because of the late timing of his speech. It is a difficult sell if you are the party of trying to attract the independent middle class by the last two prime speakers the absolute antithesis of people that one would think understand the plight of the working middle class.

ClubDirt

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Posted: Sep. 4, 2012 - 9:43 PM ET #119

i think it got to the mid 160's but then jumped back to the 190's on the way to 200+. if you listen to the media and the polls, it's a tight race but i'm guessing a tight race sells ad space more than reality and pinnacle probably has it right. but i don't know. i'm not good at predicting elections.

vanzack

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Posted: Sep. 17, 2012 - 11:49 PM ET #120

Obama is -320.

Just sayin...

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tennistudly

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Posted: Sep. 18, 2012 - 12:36 AM ET #121

obama wins creates a scenario where if you can afford it, you move to another country! In 2013 there is a 3.8% sales tax on any real estate transaction . You sell a 200,000 house and you give up $7,600 for OBAMACARE. r U KIDDIN ME?

wizardofroz

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Posted: Sep. 18, 2012 - 1:14 AM ET #122

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Obama is -320.

Just sayin...

-331 now at Pinnacle. I am NO fan of Obama, but delusional Romney created the Obamacare that he claims to despise. The POOR alternative of Romney/Ryan makes Obama almost a certainty for a second-term.

vanzack

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Posted: Sep. 18, 2012 - 8:13 AM ET #123

If Obama is -331, is it approppriate for 14daroad to come in here and post some rolly laughing guys? Will he just wait until after the election to continue to insult me on a winning wager?

Im not sure how this works.

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ClubDirt

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Posted: Sep. 18, 2012 - 10:47 AM ET #124

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

If Obama is -331, is it approppriate for 14daroad to come in here and post some rolly laughing guys? Will he just wait until after the election to continue to insult me on a winning wager?

Im not sure how this works.

pinnacle is a liar.

vanzack is a liar.

pinnacle is meaningless because those are just european socialist bettors who want obama to win. they don't watch foxnews to get the real story.

-330 doesn't mean anything because arizona just beat new england.

foxnews poll just showed romney is leading obama by 50 points in florida and ohio.

gambling odds on elections are strawmen covered in red herrings

everything i just said, and have ever said, is fact. you don't post facts. do you know why that is?

dimndimn

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Posted: Sep. 18, 2012 - 3:36 PM ET #125

vanzack, is your location Equitorial Guinea accurate? People in the US tend to have skewed opinions due to the extreme media... I plan on going to Vegas to bet on Obama next week, hopefully I get a favoring line. I don't see him losing.

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