Maybe just maybe this article will start to make some of you die hards realize whos getting screwed

Google Delaware Intangible Holding Company. Google tax subsidies, corporate credits, reduction in income. Now find me one other country that offers as such.

So your argument on expenditures and revenue is the government shouldn't be involved.

Huh?

What the hell are you talking about?

Can you read?

Google Delaware Intangible Holding Company. Google tax subsidies, corporate credits, reduction in income.

That isn't an answer.

You made an assertion, and you can't seem to back it up.

Want to take a guess as to why that is?

huh?

you said

The days of being a resourced based economy are over.
which is a pretty hefty statement to think that it deserves no questioning or criticism. 

You're writing of consumption.

I'm writing of wealth.

Due to the gluttonous lifestlye of the Western World we will always consume resources. I get you on that.

I'm saying that the economies wealth is no longer derived from resources.

We depend more and more on other countries rescources, making us a service based economy.

 

Furthermore it takes services to bring those resources to our shores.

We need to purchase the resources, transport them, warehouse, refine or assemble them, and finally sell them. All of which are services.

Its pretty simple really.

You are boot strapping the argument that the government need not be concerned about revenue because it need not expend on education. You are using an implausable slippery slope.

Fair enough points?

or am I pissing in the wind?

It is the answer. Find me one country that offers all of the above for tax credits.

Its reason number 1000 why our tax system is so screwed up.

The numbers say our tax percentages are high. The reality is they aren't.

It allows right wingers like yourself to complain about the former and liberals to complain about the latter.

You are boot strapping the argument that the government need not be concerned about revenue because it need not expend on education.

Actually, I'm not, and I never said that.

What I said 4 times was that the federal government takes in $2.1 trillion annually and should be able to run on that amount.

It is the answer.

No, it isn't. You haven't actually provided any facts, just assertions.

The numbers say our tax percentages are high. The reality is they aren't.

You can't prove that.

why is this a hard concept for you and dj to understand.  covers has a search function!!!!!! and theres this amazing website called google.  maybe if you werent such a moron, youd realize the amazing tools that are at your fingertips that make your life easier.  but instead youd rather bitch about why companies are making your life miserable.

im not ignoring your question, im not defending business making profits and not paying taxes.  in fact i made a post earlier in this thread asking if anyone knows what types of things companies deduct to allow them to pay no taxes, but it got no response.  its funny, ppl want to bitch about something but dont care one iota why that something occurs.

unlike you i think its best to get the facts on something im not intimately knowledgeable on before i take a stance.

just to clarify, if you dont have a problem with companies making profits regardless of what they pay their workers, why did you say this?

"oh and another thing koch brothers are complete dirtbags, who would love for everybody to work for them for 5 bucks an hour if they could get away with it."

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"Heres a news flash for you, breaking the unions isnt going to put one extra cent in your pocket, no matter how much you want to believe that bullshit, but it will put more cash in the pockets of the kock brothers and people like them. "

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Hes just in office to push the koch brothers agenda, which is to bust every union public and private in our country, because 34 billion dollars worth of wealth isnt enough for these fucking pigs. I hope when karma finally hits them, it hits them huge.

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Why not start one and get your employer to give you a bigger slice of the pie.  Why do you want to see workers make less. 

Like i have said before in the end the rich corporations will be the winners when the unions are all busted and gone, that you can take to the bank. So if you wanting to see the rich get richer, then stay on the union busting path, but you will see how it backfires at some point down the road. People like the koch brothers will be doing backflips if the day comes when they never have to deal with any type of union worker.

Heres the thing, in the old days the people that owned the corporations were very happy making a profit and sharing the wealth of the company with its workers, but the people behind the corporations today dont want to share any of the wealth of the company with the workers, they truly want every penny for themselves

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do i need more examples?

youve already shown your hypocrisy in the calling for palin to be hunted from a chopper but saying her cross hairs map was out of line.  saying the right needs to tone down its civility but saying its okay to call walker a dictator and compare him to hitler.  should we just add this one to the growing list?

Steve more example so what?  Yes i hate all these dirtbag companies that screw workers over and use our country like a giant litter box, while cheating the system and paying no taxes.

Truth is if you werent on your knees bl;owing big business for God only knows why, you would be mad as hell.

Am gonna say it again, i dont have a problem with a company like ge making a profit, as long as they pay some taxes on that profit, the same way each and every one of us have got to pay taxes on our money earned. If this cocnept is to hard for you to grasp then so be it.

Here we go again with the palin thing, mr alias.  yes that bitch does deserve to be hunted from a helicopter the same way she gets up in a helicopter and hunts wolves.  Shes to damn afraid to hunt the wolves on the ground so she does it from the air where the wolves are just sitting ducks. Yeah you go right ahead and keep looking up to filthy vile people like her, thats your choice.

and your boy is exactly like hilter in my opinion, accept for the murdering of people. Walker wants to control people, the same way hilter did, so i dont give a flying shit what you think about my opinion.  Its a free country and i will compare any scumbag i want to any scumbag, got it, good, now buzz off mr alias.

and honestly i hope when guys like you, who suck up to all the big companies and people like palin, rush, beck, walker and want unions busted, get it stuck right up your ass down the road. Because it will be fun watching you cry, saying this isnt what i meant.  When all your heroes turn on you, dont say you werent warned boy wonder.

Heres a news flash for you, breaking the unions isnt going to put one extra cent in your pocket, no matter how much you want to believe that bullshit, but it will put more cash in the pockets of the kock brothers and people like them.



Yeah, ok, chief.

What is funny is that you don't even understand that the policies of the Democratic politicans you vote for have led to this fiscal crisis and yet you still vote for them.

If it wasn't so incomprehensible it would almost be laughable..that someone would believe some liberal propaganda about someone without first checking out the FACTS ... 

Not only believing this lie,but even promoting it and go as far,as to want that person hunted down like an animal over an untruth ..

The fmr. Governor of Alaska Sarah Palin and the 2nd woman to run as a VP on a American Presidential ticket ..as NEVER hunted down a wolves from a plane,helicoper or any other aircraft ..never ..not one time ..

You mean, as opposed to your 'fact' that 2.1 trillion is enough to effectively govern.

Or your 'fact' that we and corporations are overtaxed.

Is this where you point out that we are overtaxed because the federal government shouldn't be involved in education?

edit * has never hunted down wolves from a plane etc...

  prove she didnt spiderboy.

I dont give a shit what title she has or could have had. Shes a vile disgusting piece of shit in my opinion and thats all that matters to me. I could care less if you like her, i hate the ladies guts. Shes a fuckin phony fraud piece of shit and after watching her show a few times, you could really she what a true phony she was.

Anymore questions about palin.

Shit i just realized both of you are named sara, no wonder you like here.

 

First off its both parties that have totally ruined our country. Both parties have been bought off by the corporations, so it doesnt matter whos in power.

Secondly if you want to really put blame on who started the downfall of our country you dont have to look any farther then the worst President of all time RONALD REAGAN and his silly ass trickle down economic bullshit, that never worked. Nothing ever trickled down, it alwasy stood in the rich guys hands. This was without a doubt one of the biggest scams ever pulled on the American people. In fact Reagan was also part of another hige scam pulled on the American people, which has wasted trillions of dollars over the years and that is this phony war on drugs bullshit. Another huge pile of shit pulled on the American people.

 

As far as the unions go come talk to me when all the unions are gone in our country and then big business pays off the politicans to change a few workers rights laws, which in turn leads to workers being fuckin slaves to all these companies and working for shit wages, with no benefits or safety protection.  It will be like sending our country back a 100 years. You come talk to me when your kids and their kids are working for peanuts.

Guys like you are so uncapable of actually seeing the big picture and what is taking place, your only able to see whats in front of you.

You need to learn how to see the forest thru the trees.

Let me ask you why have you just now showed up on the political forum?

To the Covers Team

This thread might be a political record, 13 pages so far and over 5500 views.

Listen i talked to my union boss today and he said that i can no longer post on here for free.  He said that i needed to be paid for my posts from now on, due to all the posts that are being created when i post here. Hes in the process of working out a fair contract for me and Covers to agree to. Its a dollar per post plus 3 weeks vacation a year with a 401k included, since we dont want to anger the other posters with a pension plan. If we cant agree to the contract my union boss has said, that i will have to take my road show to another forum.  Hey if glenn beck can start his own tv channel why cant i start my own forum show. 

am calling this one a 10 million X roller on myself

hey spiderboy 8 facts about sara palin

Palin offered a bounty of $150 for each left front leg of freshly killed wolves

aerial hunting of wolves even though Alaskans voted twice to ban it

$400,000 of state money to fund a propaganda campaign in support of aerial hunting

man-made global warming is a farce

supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge

 champion for big oil sued the federal government to prevent listing the polar bear as an endangered species 

https://www.grizzlybay.org/SarahPalinInfoPage.htm

All 8 of the postings in post # 321 are not in question only your untruthful comment in post  #313 quoted above  ..but keep googling ...

 

sara prove sara didnt do it?  On top of that, i know she did it, but even if she didnt do it, shes still a big time supporter of it, even offering cash for the wolves legs. How fuckin disgusting is that? Shes a very sick and twisted lady. Wonder how she would feel if people put a price tag on her and her families body parts?

Now heres the thing sara if you support her and her disgusting policies thats your opinion and its my opinion if i dont support her and her policies.

Even longtime hardcore hunters on this site have said hunting wolves and animals from a plane of helicopter is disgusting.

 

Political thread of the year!!!

And oh yeah.....you guys missed out on four great games.

Your little civil debate we're having ( my contribution to get you to 10,000 view and 500 post comments)...has nothing to do with what other undocumented posters feel about aerial hunting of animals ,but the fact that you claimed Sarah Palin hunted down wolves from a helicopter ...-which she didn't - and you wanting her hunted down like and an animal for doing something that is untrue ......

So no more deflections .....validate your smear or retract it ..it's that simple ..