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    mattbrot principle at work here gents

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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2018 - 6:14 PM ET #1

    This has been previously posted but a new story just came up today. The hypocrisy is absolutly amazing.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-makes-america-great-again-044426011.html

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    This has been previously posted but a new story just came up today. The hypocrisy is absolutly amazing.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-makes-america-great-again-044426011.html

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2018 - 6:26 PM ET #2

    1 out of 144 jobs have gone to an American. Amazing

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    1 out of 144 jobs have gone to an American. Amazing

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2018 - 8:42 PM ET #3

    matt, we're talking about Russia and guns now.  You know Trump supporters can only focus on 1-2 things at a time.
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    matt, we're talking about Russia and guns now.  You know Trump supporters can only focus on 1-2 things at a time.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2018 - 8:54 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    matt, we're talking about Russia and guns now.  You know Trump supporters can only focus on 1-2 things at a time.

      
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    matt, we're talking about Russia and guns now.  You know Trump supporters can only focus on 1-2 things at a time.

      
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2018 - 9:06 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    matt, we're talking about Russia and guns now.  You know Trump supporters can only focus on 1-2 things at a time.

     

    good point

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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    matt, we're talking about Russia and guns now.  You know Trump supporters can only focus on 1-2 things at a time.

     

    good point

     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2018 - 9:13 PM ET #6

    I don’t think our President is involved in the hiring process. One man can only do so much. 
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    I don’t think our President is involved in the hiring process. One man can only do so much. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2018 - 9:44 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    I don’t think our President is involved in the hiring process. One man can only do so much.

    is this a rationale for such an overwhelming diversion from one of his major talking points? If so that is a very weak stance. 1 out of 144 is not happen stance.

    Not picking on you or trying to take a shot - just stating what should be obvious regardless of political affiliation.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    I don’t think our President is involved in the hiring process. One man can only do so much.

    is this a rationale for such an overwhelming diversion from one of his major talking points? If so that is a very weak stance. 1 out of 144 is not happen stance.

    Not picking on you or trying to take a shot - just stating what should be obvious regardless of political affiliation.  

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2018 - 12:47 PM ET #8

    Point taken. And not surprised one bit. It's like Trump said on the campaign trail about paying as little taxes as possible, he can so why wouldn't he. I'm sure his business choices when it comes to cheap labor follow the same logic.

    So I'm guessing you support the administration's merit based immigration perogative, drastically reducing refugee admissions, in order to help actual american citizens and force employers to raise wages on all these jobs, thus reducing the demand of people needed to work these jobs? Do you?

    If fact it would be great politics if he did hire all americans for these jobs you have pointed out in this thread. And made a big deal about. But you know what your tribe would say to that?

    RACIST! WHITE NATIONALIST! etc.

     

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    Point taken. And not surprised one bit. It's like Trump said on the campaign trail about paying as little taxes as possible, he can so why wouldn't he. I'm sure his business choices when it comes to cheap labor follow the same logic.

    So I'm guessing you support the administration's merit based immigration perogative, drastically reducing refugee admissions, in order to help actual american citizens and force employers to raise wages on all these jobs, thus reducing the demand of people needed to work these jobs? Do you?

    If fact it would be great politics if he did hire all americans for these jobs you have pointed out in this thread. And made a big deal about. But you know what your tribe would say to that?

    RACIST! WHITE NATIONALIST! etc.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2018 - 2:04 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    I don’t think our President is involved in the hiring process. One man can only do so much.
    Yes, watching Fox News and Tweeting away the first three hours of every day has to be quite a load. an_roll_laugh

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    I don’t think our President is involved in the hiring process. One man can only do so much.
    Yes, watching Fox News and Tweeting away the first three hours of every day has to be quite a load. an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2018 - 3:01 PM ET #10

    Are you suggesting Trump should control his international conglomerate while he’s POTUS? 

    I thought you people didn’t want that? 

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    Are you suggesting Trump should control his international conglomerate while he’s POTUS? 

    I thought you people didn’t want that? 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2018 - 4:21 PM ET #11

    Tilt and in theory detox. You guys are missing the point here. The point is that he and the GOP are frauds about this kind of stuff. He can hire who he wants for all I care. But don’t act like this a big issue for you. It is the utter hypocrisy and the total blind eye of the GOP which is the point. 

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    Tilt and in theory detox. You guys are missing the point here. The point is that he and the GOP are frauds about this kind of stuff. He can hire who he wants for all I care. But don’t act like this a big issue for you. It is the utter hypocrisy and the total blind eye of the GOP which is the point. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2018 - 4:41 PM ET #12

    It’s the same as saying a democrat that wants people to pay more taxes should send the government more of their money. 

    Rich democrats think we should pay more in taxes, then hire top notch accountants and try to pay as little taxes as possible. 
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    It’s the same as saying a democrat that wants people to pay more taxes should send the government more of their money. 

    Rich democrats think we should pay more in taxes, then hire top notch accountants and try to pay as little taxes as possible. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2018 - 4:59 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Tilt and in theory detox. You guys are missing the point here. The point is that he and the GOP are frauds about this kind of stuff. He can hire who he wants for all I care. But don’t act like this a big issue for you. It is the utter hypocrisy and the total blind eye of the GOP which is the point.

    reread what i said a few times and let it sink in...

    If you don't understand and realize their is a huge split in opinion on immigration in the GOP, I can't help you. 

    A huge faction of the GOP WANT this kind of cheap labor and WANT to shuttle it into this country in droves. Their entire political existence is at the behest of Agri-business and the Chamber of Commerce. Those are facts. The faction that wants it to stop and shed some light on its negative consequences on american citizens is the core that voted for Trump. AKA his aide Stephen Miller. You don't think some of his voters aren't pissed that the wall isn't built? and that refugees still get in here to work these slaves labor jobs? They voted to change the status quo....it hasn't happened yet obviously. You say they are turning a blind eye? That's not even remotely true. Why do you think Trump threatened to veto some of the senate's immigration proposals last weeK? His entire presidency rides on this issue. So yes, no blind eye, people are pissed. Should they vote the democrats now? an_drunksick

    Immigration fuels income inequality just as much as offshoring did 20 years ago...Open your eyes. 

    Hypocrisy IS politics. And both sides are virtual monuments attesting to the definition of the word itself.

    Nobody and I mean nobody who sides with the pro immigration agenda is in it for anything other than political gain and monetary gain. They scream compassion but its pure virtue signaling, and subterfuge to fool the emotionally disable leftwing of America.

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Tilt and in theory detox. You guys are missing the point here. The point is that he and the GOP are frauds about this kind of stuff. He can hire who he wants for all I care. But don’t act like this a big issue for you. It is the utter hypocrisy and the total blind eye of the GOP which is the point.

    reread what i said a few times and let it sink in...

    If you don't understand and realize their is a huge split in opinion on immigration in the GOP, I can't help you. 

    A huge faction of the GOP WANT this kind of cheap labor and WANT to shuttle it into this country in droves. Their entire political existence is at the behest of Agri-business and the Chamber of Commerce. Those are facts. The faction that wants it to stop and shed some light on its negative consequences on american citizens is the core that voted for Trump. AKA his aide Stephen Miller. You don't think some of his voters aren't pissed that the wall isn't built? and that refugees still get in here to work these slaves labor jobs? They voted to change the status quo....it hasn't happened yet obviously. You say they are turning a blind eye? That's not even remotely true. Why do you think Trump threatened to veto some of the senate's immigration proposals last weeK? His entire presidency rides on this issue. So yes, no blind eye, people are pissed. Should they vote the democrats now? an_drunksick

    Immigration fuels income inequality just as much as offshoring did 20 years ago...Open your eyes. 

    Hypocrisy IS politics. And both sides are virtual monuments attesting to the definition of the word itself.

    Nobody and I mean nobody who sides with the pro immigration agenda is in it for anything other than political gain and monetary gain. They scream compassion but its pure virtue signaling, and subterfuge to fool the emotionally disable leftwing of America.

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2018 - 8:02 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Yes, watching Fox News and Tweeting away the first three hours of every day has to be quite a load. an_roll_laugh


    Don't forget 
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Yes, watching Fox News and Tweeting away the first three hours of every day has to be quite a load. an_roll_laugh


    Don't forget 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2018 - 10:35 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by mattbrot: Tilt and in theory detox. You guys are missing the point here. The point is that he and the GOP are frauds about this kind of stuff. He can hire who he wants for all I care. But don’t act like this a big issue for you. It is the utter hypocrisy and the total blind eye of the GOP which is the point. reread what i said a few times and let it sink in... If you don't understand and realize their is a huge split in opinion on immigration in the GOP, I can't help you.  A huge faction of the GOP WANT this kind of cheap labor and WANT to shuttle it into this country in droves. Their entire political existence is at the behest of Agri-business and the Chamber of Commerce. Those are facts. The faction that wants it to stop and shed some light on its negative consequences on american citizens is the core that voted for Trump. AKA his aide Stephen Miller. You don't think some of his voters aren't pissed that the wall isn't built? and that refugees still get in here to work these slaves labor jobs? They voted to change the status quo....it hasn't happened yet obviously. You say they are turning a blind eye? That's not even remotely true. Why do you think Trump threatened to veto some of the senate's immigration proposals last weeK? His entire presidency rides on this issue. So yes, no blind eye, people are pissed. Should they vote the democrats now?  Immigration fuels income inequality just as much as offshoring did 20 years ago...Open your eyes.  Hypocrisy IS politics. And both sides are virtual monuments attesting to the definition of the word itself. Nobody and I mean nobody who sides with the pro immigration agenda is in it for anything other than political gain and monetary gain. They scream compassion but its pure virtue signaling, and subterfuge to fool the emotionally disable leftwing of America.

    Um... Ok... I guess there is a way to rationalize everything. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by mattbrot: Tilt and in theory detox. You guys are missing the point here. The point is that he and the GOP are frauds about this kind of stuff. He can hire who he wants for all I care. But don’t act like this a big issue for you. It is the utter hypocrisy and the total blind eye of the GOP which is the point. reread what i said a few times and let it sink in... If you don't understand and realize their is a huge split in opinion on immigration in the GOP, I can't help you.  A huge faction of the GOP WANT this kind of cheap labor and WANT to shuttle it into this country in droves. Their entire political existence is at the behest of Agri-business and the Chamber of Commerce. Those are facts. The faction that wants it to stop and shed some light on its negative consequences on american citizens is the core that voted for Trump. AKA his aide Stephen Miller. You don't think some of his voters aren't pissed that the wall isn't built? and that refugees still get in here to work these slaves labor jobs? They voted to change the status quo....it hasn't happened yet obviously. You say they are turning a blind eye? That's not even remotely true. Why do you think Trump threatened to veto some of the senate's immigration proposals last weeK? His entire presidency rides on this issue. So yes, no blind eye, people are pissed. Should they vote the democrats now?  Immigration fuels income inequality just as much as offshoring did 20 years ago...Open your eyes.  Hypocrisy IS politics. And both sides are virtual monuments attesting to the definition of the word itself. Nobody and I mean nobody who sides with the pro immigration agenda is in it for anything other than political gain and monetary gain. They scream compassion but its pure virtue signaling, and subterfuge to fool the emotionally disable leftwing of America.

    Um... Ok... I guess there is a way to rationalize everything. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2018 - 12:42 AM ET #16

    Do you think people that support higher taxes should send more of their money to the IRS? 

    Yes or no 

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    Do you think people that support higher taxes should send more of their money to the IRS? 

    Yes or no 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2018 - 10:14 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Do you think people that support higher taxes should send more of their money to the IRS? Yes or no

    Haha. What are we 12? Nice counter argument. The HUGE differance is 

    1) I do not think that Dems are necessairly saying that they need to pay more than others while others can choose to pay less or not pay at all. I think for the most part they are arguing that the idea of a tax break is not what they are in favor of. Especially if it goes to the rich coorporations. Basically I think that the Dems are saying that paying taxes is not an awful thing as the GOP would  make you believe because they think it is a necessary evil.

    But I am a well known non-partisan independent - so you should probably ask a dem for clarification.

    2) Your argument is backwards. The analogy would be if a high ranking Dem pounded his fist left and right and used no tax cuts as one of his primary platforms. Only to get voted in and personally not pay a single tax. That is the analogy here. But the GOP followers are too blind to see.

    3) To the point above -- this is the very definition of hypocrisy. MAGA, American first, we need to break up families and kick dreamers out, ICE raids etc... All the while he is doing the EXACT OPPOSITE IN HIS REAL LIFE THAN WHAT HE IS SCREAMING TO THE IDIOTS WHO ARE LISTENING.

    Respectefully - your counter argument is lame at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Do you think people that support higher taxes should send more of their money to the IRS? Yes or no

    Haha. What are we 12? Nice counter argument. The HUGE differance is 

    1) I do not think that Dems are necessairly saying that they need to pay more than others while others can choose to pay less or not pay at all. I think for the most part they are arguing that the idea of a tax break is not what they are in favor of. Especially if it goes to the rich coorporations. Basically I think that the Dems are saying that paying taxes is not an awful thing as the GOP would  make you believe because they think it is a necessary evil.

    But I am a well known non-partisan independent - so you should probably ask a dem for clarification.

    2) Your argument is backwards. The analogy would be if a high ranking Dem pounded his fist left and right and used no tax cuts as one of his primary platforms. Only to get voted in and personally not pay a single tax. That is the analogy here. But the GOP followers are too blind to see.

    3) To the point above -- this is the very definition of hypocrisy. MAGA, American first, we need to break up families and kick dreamers out, ICE raids etc... All the while he is doing the EXACT OPPOSITE IN HIS REAL LIFE THAN WHAT HE IS SCREAMING TO THE IDIOTS WHO ARE LISTENING.

    Respectefully - your counter argument is lame at best.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2018 - 12:05 PM ET #18

    If paying taxes is not an awful thing than why don’t they just pay more? And their supporters pay more? Why hire accountants and try to pay as little as possible? 

    What you seem to have a hard time grasping is that it’s ok for a politician to want certain policy changes while still taking advantage, to the best of their ability, of the current policies. Why do you lack the ability to comprehend something so simple? 

    Why do democrats have such a hard time differentiating people that are here illegally vs people that are here legally? It’s like a mental illness or something. 
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    If paying taxes is not an awful thing than why don’t they just pay more? And their supporters pay more? Why hire accountants and try to pay as little as possible? 

    What you seem to have a hard time grasping is that it’s ok for a politician to want certain policy changes while still taking advantage, to the best of their ability, of the current policies. Why do you lack the ability to comprehend something so simple? 

    Why do democrats have such a hard time differentiating people that are here illegally vs people that are here legally? It’s like a mental illness or something. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC: QUOTE Originally Posted by mattbrot: Tilt and in theory detox. You guys are missing the point here. The point is that he and the GOP are frauds about this kind of stuff. He can hire who he wants for all I care. But don’t act like this a big issue for you. It is the utter hypocrisy and the total blind eye of the GOP which is the point. reread what i said a few times and let it sink in... If you don't understand and realize their is a huge split in opinion on immigration in the GOP, I can't help you.  A huge faction of the GOP WANT this kind of cheap labor and WANT to shuttle it into this country in droves. Their entire political existence is at the behest of Agri-business and the Chamber of Commerce. Those are facts. The faction that wants it to stop and shed some light on its negative consequences on american citizens is the core that voted for Trump. AKA his aide Stephen Miller. You don't think some of his voters aren't pissed that the wall isn't built? and that refugees still get in here to work these slaves labor jobs? They voted to change the status quo....it hasn't happened yet obviously. You say they are turning a blind eye? That's not even remotely true. Why do you think Trump threatened to veto some of the senate's immigration proposals last weeK? His entire presidency rides on this issue. So yes, no blind eye, people are pissed. Should they vote the democrats now?  Immigration fuels income inequality just as much as offshoring did 20 years ago...Open your eyes.  Hypocrisy IS politics. And both sides are virtual monuments attesting to the definition of the word itself. Nobody and I mean nobody who sides with the pro immigration agenda is in it for anything other than political gain and monetary gain. They scream compassion but its pure virtue signaling, and subterfuge to fool the emotionally disable leftwing of America. Um... Ok... I guess there is a way to rationalize everything.

    What would mattbrot suggest frustrated trump voters do? Vote for dems and make the situation even worse? Support establishment Repubs want to keep the status quo? I want rational ideas, show me how well you grasp all this...I'm all earspeace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    QUOTE Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC: QUOTE Originally Posted by mattbrot: Tilt and in theory detox. You guys are missing the point here. The point is that he and the GOP are frauds about this kind of stuff. He can hire who he wants for all I care. But don’t act like this a big issue for you. It is the utter hypocrisy and the total blind eye of the GOP which is the point. reread what i said a few times and let it sink in... If you don't understand and realize their is a huge split in opinion on immigration in the GOP, I can't help you.  A huge faction of the GOP WANT this kind of cheap labor and WANT to shuttle it into this country in droves. Their entire political existence is at the behest of Agri-business and the Chamber of Commerce. Those are facts. The faction that wants it to stop and shed some light on its negative consequences on american citizens is the core that voted for Trump. AKA his aide Stephen Miller. You don't think some of his voters aren't pissed that the wall isn't built? and that refugees still get in here to work these slaves labor jobs? They voted to change the status quo....it hasn't happened yet obviously. You say they are turning a blind eye? That's not even remotely true. Why do you think Trump threatened to veto some of the senate's immigration proposals last weeK? His entire presidency rides on this issue. So yes, no blind eye, people are pissed. Should they vote the democrats now?  Immigration fuels income inequality just as much as offshoring did 20 years ago...Open your eyes.  Hypocrisy IS politics. And both sides are virtual monuments attesting to the definition of the word itself. Nobody and I mean nobody who sides with the pro immigration agenda is in it for anything other than political gain and monetary gain. They scream compassion but its pure virtue signaling, and subterfuge to fool the emotionally disable leftwing of America. Um... Ok... I guess there is a way to rationalize everything.

    What would mattbrot suggest frustrated trump voters do? Vote for dems and make the situation even worse? Support establishment Repubs want to keep the status quo? I want rational ideas, show me how well you grasp all this...I'm all earspeace_5

     
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    Posted: Mar. 16, 2018 - 1:50 PM ET #20

    it's not so scary to me that fox news does this sh*t, it's scary to mean that people watch this sh*t

    https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/974450928714747906
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    it's not so scary to me that fox news does this sh*t, it's scary to mean that people watch this sh*t

    https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/974450928714747906
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2018 - 9:56 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    it's not so scary to me that fox news does this sh*t, it's scary to mean that people watch this sh*t

    https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/974450928714747906

    Fox viewers cant remember or recall that ..

    Quick brimg up Hillary , snowflake something , or Illegal humans 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    it's not so scary to me that fox news does this sh*t, it's scary to mean that people watch this sh*t

    https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/974450928714747906

    Fox viewers cant remember or recall that ..

    Quick brimg up Hillary , snowflake something , or Illegal humans 
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2018 - 10:04 PM ET #22

    It’s not so scary that CNN does this, it’s scary to me that people watch this sh*t. 

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l31mGxitqbQ
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    It’s not so scary that CNN does this, it’s scary to me that people watch this sh*t. 

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l31mGxitqbQ
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