• Forums
  • Best Betting Sites
  • Sportsbook Promos
  • Best Sports Betting Apps
  • NFL Betting Forum
  • NBA Betting Forum
  • MLB Betting Forum
  • NHL Betting Forum
  • NCAAF Betting Forum
  • NCAAB Betting Forum
  • Soccer Betting Forum
  • Tennis Betting Forum
  • General Discussion
  • Help Forum
  • Guidelines
  • FAQ
  • Forum Updates
    Covers Logo
    Covers App
    Faster picks. Smarter bets.
    All in the NEW Covers App
    Download on the App Store Download on the Google Play Store
    • Sports
      • NFL
        • Back
        • NFL
        • NFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NFL Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NCAAF
        • Back
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAF Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NCAAF Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NBA
        • Back
        • NBA
        • NBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • NCAAB
        • Back
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • NCAAB Picks
        • Injuries
      • MLB
        • Back
        • MLB
        • MLB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • MLB Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NHL
        • Back
        • NHL
        • NHL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NHL Picks
        • Injuries
      • Soccer
      • UFC
      • WNBA
        • Back
        • WNBA
        • WNBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • WNBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • CFL
        • Back
        • CFL
        • CFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • CFL Picks
      • Golf
        • Back
        • Golf
        • Golf Home
        • Golf Odds
        • Masters Odds
        • PGA Championship Odds
        • US Open Odds
        • British Open Odds
        • Ryder Cup Odds
        • Golf Picks
    • Odds
      • All Odds
      • NFL
      • NCAAF
      • NBA
      • NCAAB
      • MLB
      • NHL
      • Golf
      • Soccer Odds
        • Back
        • Soccer Odds
        • MLS Odds
        • Champions League Odds
        • Premier League Odds
      • UFC
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • Election Odds
      • Futures
        • Back
        • Futures
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • MLB
        • NHL
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAF
      • Sports Odds History
    • Picks
      • All Picks
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • NHL
      • MLB
      • NCAAF
      • NCAAB
      • Golf
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • User Picks
      • Team User Picks
      • Consensus Picks
        • Back
        • Consensus Picks
        • All Consensus Picks
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • NHL
        • MLB
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAB
        • CFL
        • WNBA
        • Consensus FAQ
        • Public Money
    • Prop Projections
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • MLB
      • NHL
    • Betting
      • US Betting Sites
      • Canada Betting Sites
      • Sportsbook Reviews
      • States
        • Back
        • States
        • US Legal Tracker
        • Revenue Tracker
        • Arizona
        • Arkansas
        • California
        • Colorado
        • Connecticut
        • DC
        • Florida
        • Georgia
        • Illinois
        • Indiana
        • Iowa
        • Kansas
        • Kentucky
        • Louisiana
        • Maine
        • Maryland
        • Massachusetts
        • Michigan
        • Mississippi
        • Missouri
        • Nevada
        • New Hampshire
        • New Jersey
        • New York
        • North Carolina
        • Ohio
        • Oregon
        • Pennsylvania
        • Tennessee
        • Texas
        • Vermont
        • Virginia
        • West Virginia
        • Wyoming
      • Provinces
        • Back
        • Provinces
        • Alberta
        • British Columbia
        • Manitoba
        • New Brunswick
        • Newfoundland and Labrador
        • Northwest Territories
        • Nova Scotia
        • Nunavut
        • Ontario
        • Prince Edward Island
        • Quebec (English)
        • Quebec (francais)
        • Saskatchewan
        • Yukon
      • By Sport
        • Back
        • By Sport
        • Baseball
        • Basketball
        • Boxing
        • College Football
        • F1
        • Football
        • Super Bowl
        • Golf
        • Hockey
        • Horse Racing
        • March Madness
        • Soccer
        • UFC
        • World Cup
      • Betting Apps
        • Back
        • Betting Apps
        • Best Sports Betting Apps USA
        • Ontario Sports Betting Apps
      • Rest of World
        • Back
        • Rest of World
        • UK Betting Offers
          • Back
          • UK Betting Offers
          • UK Betting Sites
          • bet365 Bonus Code UK
          • 888Sport Promo Code UK
          • William Hill Sign up Offer
          • Betway Sign up Offer
          • BetVictor Bonus Code UK
      • Betting Guides
        • Back
        • Betting Guides
        • All Guides
        • Glossary
        • Betting Calculators
          • Back
          • Betting Calculators
          • Odds Converter
          • Parlay Calculator
        • Futures Betting Guide
        • Moneyline Betting Guide
        • Over/Under Betting Guide
        • Parlay Betting Guide
        • Point Spread Betting Guide
        • Prop Betting Guide
        • Sports Betting Guides
          • Back
          • Sports Betting Guides
          • How To Bet On Sports Guide
          • NFL Betting Guide
          • NHL Betting Guide
          • NBA Betting Guide
          • MLB Betting Guide
          • NCAAB Betting Guide
          • NCAAF Betting Guide
          • Golf Betting Guide
          • Tennis Betting Guide
        • Teaser Betting Guide
      • Betting News
        • Back
        • Betting News
        • All News
        • Industry News
        • Podcasts
        • Covers Videos
        • Covers Writers
        • Offers & Boosts
    • Promos
      • Sportsbook Promos
      • Canada Sportsbook Promos
      • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • bet365 Bonus Code
        • BET99 Promo Code
        • BetMGM Bonus Code
        • BetRivers Bonus Code
        • Caesars Sportsbook Promo
        • DraftKings Promo Code
        • Fanatics Sportsbook Promo
        • FanDuel Promo Code
        • Hard Rock Bet Promo Code
        • Sports Interaction Promo
        • Stake Promo Code
        • theScore Bet Promo Code
        • TonyBet Promo Code
      • Bonuses By Region
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Region
        • Arkansas Promos
        • Arizona Promos
        • Colorado Promos
        • Connecticut Promos
        • DC Promos
        • Illinois Promos
        • Indiana Promos
        • Iowa Promos
        • Kansas Promos
        • Kentucky Promos
        • Louisiana Promos
        • Maine Promos
        • Maryland Promos
        • Massachusetts Promos
        • Michigan Promos
        • Missouri Promos
        • New Jersey Promos
        • New York Promos
        • North Carolina Promos
        • Ohio Promos
        • Pennsylvania Promos
        • Tennessee Promos
        • Vermont Promos
        • Virginia Promos
        • West Virginia Promos
        • Wyoming Promos
    • Forum & Contests
      • All Forums
      • NFL Betting Forum
      • MLB Betting Forum
      • NCAAB Betting Forum
      • NCAAF Betting Forum
      • NBA Betting Forum
      • NHL Betting Forum
      • Soccer Betting Forum
      • Contests
        • Back
        • Contests
        • Contests Home
        • Streak Survivor
        • King of Covers
        • My Contests
    • Casino
      • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Back
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes No-Deposit Bonuses
        • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Back
          • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Card Crush
          • Casino.click
          • Chanced Casino
          • Crown Coins Casino
          • FreeSpin Casino
          • LoneStar
          • McLuck
          • Mega Bonanza Casino
          • PlayFame
          • Pulsz
          • Stake.us
      • US Casinos
        • Back
        • US Casinos
        • US Online Casinos
        • US Online Casino Bonuses
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • bet365 Casino Promo Code
          • BetRivers Casino Promo
          • Borgata Casino Bonus Code
          • Caesars Casino Bonus Code
          • DraftKings Casino Promo
          • Fanatics Casino Promo
          • FanDuel Casino Promo Code
          • Golden Nugget Casino Promo
          • Hard Rock Bet Casino Promo
          • Hollywood Casino Promo Code
      • Canada Casinos
        • Back
        • Canada Casinos
        • Canada Online Casinos
        • Provinces
          • Back
          • Provinces
          • Alberta Online Casino
          • BC Online Casino
          • Ontario Online Casinos
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • BC.GAME Bonus Code
          • Cloudbet Promo Code
          • RainBet Promo Code
          • Roobet Promo Code
          • Shuffle Promo Code
          • Thrill Promo Code
    • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Market Apps
      • Prediction Market Promos
      • Kalshi Promo Code
      • Kalshi Referral Code
      • Polymarket Promo Code
      • Polymarket Referral Code
      • DraftKings Predictions Promo Code
      • Novig Promo Code
      • ProphetX Promo Code
      • Underdog Promo Code
      • Betr Promo Code
      • OG Promo Code
      • Fanatics Markets Promo Code
      • Plus500 Promo Code
      • Gemini Predictions Promo Code
    • NFL Week 3
      NFL Week 3
      • NFL Odds
      • NFL Picks
      • NFL Prediction Markets
      • NFL Betting Sites
    Covers Account
    Log in Create account
    Join free Log in
    All Forums | Politics

    Lies, Inaccuracies & Stupidity

    «First Previous 232425 ... 787980 Next Last»
    StumpTownStu
    Midnight1
    UNIMAN
    KellyM_1964
    soup-can
    ...
    Participants:
    Search
    Views: 26230
    Posts: 1982
    «First Previous 232425 ... 787980 Next Last»
     
    StumpTownStu
    StumpTownStu
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2016
    Posts: 22234
    Posted: Feb. 20, 2025 - 2:34 AM ET #551

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    LET'S GET THINGS STRAIGHT Ukraine did not start the war. Russia did. Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet.

    How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu?

    Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    LET'S GET THINGS STRAIGHT Ukraine did not start the war. Russia did. Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet.

    How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu?

    Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world.

     
    Midnight1
    Midnight1
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2007
    Posts: 25506
    Posted: Feb. 20, 2025 - 5:38 PM ET #552

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: LET'S GET THINGS STRAIGHT Ukraine did not start the war. Russia did. Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world.

    Don't be underestimating Vlady now Stu.

    BTW...why is the Donald being so petty & getting involved in traffic issues in the Big Apple? Do you think he gives a shit about NYC?

    My sister goes regularly to shows on Broadway & since the change her commute has gone from 40 to 20 minutes.

    How about you scooby? Have you seen the traffic change in the city?

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: LET'S GET THINGS STRAIGHT Ukraine did not start the war. Russia did. Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world.

    Don't be underestimating Vlady now Stu.

    BTW...why is the Donald being so petty & getting involved in traffic issues in the Big Apple? Do you think he gives a shit about NYC?

    My sister goes regularly to shows on Broadway & since the change her commute has gone from 40 to 20 minutes.

    How about you scooby? Have you seen the traffic change in the city?

     
    Midnight1
    Midnight1
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2007
    Posts: 25506
    Posted: Feb. 20, 2025 - 5:51 PM ET #553

    WHAT FID HE SAY LAST NIGHT ON FOX?

    Howard Lutnick, Dipshit Donnie's billionaire buddy turned commerce secretary, has confirmed that the administration was simply lying to MAGA supporters about not touching Social Security and Medicare.

    “Back in October … I flew down to Texas, got Elon Musk to [set up DOGE], and here was our agreement: that Elon was gonna cut a trillion dollars of waste fraud and abuse,” Lutnick told Jesse Waters of Fox News Wednesday night. “We have almost $4 trillion of entitlements, and no one’s ever looked at it before. You know Social Security is wrong, you know Medicaid and Medicare are wrong. So he’s gonna cut a trillion and we’re gonna get rid of all these tax scams that hammer against America and we’re gonna raise a trillion dollars of revenue.”

    If he's counting on Musk's ability to find trillions of fraud & waste in Medicare & SS, he's going to be sorely disappointed. Fuck with Social Security, which is our damn money, and his career in government will be over before he even gets started.

    Reply

    WHAT FID HE SAY LAST NIGHT ON FOX?

    Howard Lutnick, Dipshit Donnie's billionaire buddy turned commerce secretary, has confirmed that the administration was simply lying to MAGA supporters about not touching Social Security and Medicare.

    “Back in October … I flew down to Texas, got Elon Musk to [set up DOGE], and here was our agreement: that Elon was gonna cut a trillion dollars of waste fraud and abuse,” Lutnick told Jesse Waters of Fox News Wednesday night. “We have almost $4 trillion of entitlements, and no one’s ever looked at it before. You know Social Security is wrong, you know Medicaid and Medicare are wrong. So he’s gonna cut a trillion and we’re gonna get rid of all these tax scams that hammer against America and we’re gonna raise a trillion dollars of revenue.”

    If he's counting on Musk's ability to find trillions of fraud & waste in Medicare & SS, he's going to be sorely disappointed. Fuck with Social Security, which is our damn money, and his career in government will be over before he even gets started.

     
    StumpTownStu
    StumpTownStu
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2016
    Posts: 22234
    Posted: Feb. 20, 2025 - 6:11 PM ET #554

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: LET'S GET THINGS STRAIGHT Ukraine did not start the war. Russia did. Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world. Don't be underestimating Vlady now Stu. BTW...why is the Donald being so petty & getting involved in traffic issues in the Big Apple? Do you think he gives a shit about NYC? My sister goes regularly to shows on Broadway & since the change her commute has gone from 40 to 20 minutes. How about you scooby? Have you seen the traffic change in the city?

    I 100% am not underestimating Putin. I'm underestimating, or rather, properly estimating the potential threat Russia poses in relation to China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia (financially) and Israel (Intelligence_disinformation). We paint Russia out to be our greatest adversaries and a threat to the safety of America. Meanwhile, Russia has it's hands full with Ukraine. Let that sink in. We always hear about the cold war and the arms race with Russia but frankly, there military never really rebounded from WW2. A war they fought side by side with us, sustaining exponentially more casualties. We don't teach that though. We like to teach about storming the beach at Normandy.

    My stance has always been the same. Let Slavic peoples deal with Slavic peoples. We have no business involving ourselves.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: LET'S GET THINGS STRAIGHT Ukraine did not start the war. Russia did. Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world. Don't be underestimating Vlady now Stu. BTW...why is the Donald being so petty & getting involved in traffic issues in the Big Apple? Do you think he gives a shit about NYC? My sister goes regularly to shows on Broadway & since the change her commute has gone from 40 to 20 minutes. How about you scooby? Have you seen the traffic change in the city?

    I 100% am not underestimating Putin. I'm underestimating, or rather, properly estimating the potential threat Russia poses in relation to China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia (financially) and Israel (Intelligence_disinformation). We paint Russia out to be our greatest adversaries and a threat to the safety of America. Meanwhile, Russia has it's hands full with Ukraine. Let that sink in. We always hear about the cold war and the arms race with Russia but frankly, there military never really rebounded from WW2. A war they fought side by side with us, sustaining exponentially more casualties. We don't teach that though. We like to teach about storming the beach at Normandy.

    My stance has always been the same. Let Slavic peoples deal with Slavic peoples. We have no business involving ourselves.

     
    Midnight1
    Midnight1
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2007
    Posts: 25506
    Posted: Feb. 20, 2025 - 6:31 PM ET #555

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: LET'S GET THINGS STRAIGHT Ukraine did not start the war. Russia did. Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world. Don't be underestimating Vlady now Stu. BTW...why is the Donald being so petty & getting involved in traffic issues in the Big Apple? Do you think he gives a shit about NYC? My sister goes regularly to shows on Broadway & since the change her commute has gone from 40 to 20 minutes. How about you scooby? Have you seen the traffic change in the city? I 100% am not underestimating Putin. I'm underestimating, or rather, properly estimating the potential threat Russia poses in relation to China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia (financially) and Israel (Intelligence_disinformation). We paint Russia out to be our greatest adversaries and a threat to the safety of America. Meanwhile, Russia has it's hands full with Ukraine. Let that sink in. We always hear about the cold war and the arms race with Russia but frankly, there military never really rebounded from WW2. A war they fought side by side with us, sustaining exponentially more casualties. We don't teach that though. We like to teach about storming the beach at Normandy. My stance has always been the same. Let Slavic peoples deal with Slavic peoples. We have no business involving ourselves.

    We fought side by side against a common enemy but times have changed.  

    I've said it before & I'll say it again..I don't want any American boots on the ground anywhere there is a war. This is & will be a European problem & they have been our allies since WWII. I do not like how the Donald cozies up to Putin because he's not smart enough to come out a winner. Saying Ukraine started the war with Russia proves once again our president takes subservient role with Putin.

    I don't like it one bit. 

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: LET'S GET THINGS STRAIGHT Ukraine did not start the war. Russia did. Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world. Don't be underestimating Vlady now Stu. BTW...why is the Donald being so petty & getting involved in traffic issues in the Big Apple? Do you think he gives a shit about NYC? My sister goes regularly to shows on Broadway & since the change her commute has gone from 40 to 20 minutes. How about you scooby? Have you seen the traffic change in the city? I 100% am not underestimating Putin. I'm underestimating, or rather, properly estimating the potential threat Russia poses in relation to China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia (financially) and Israel (Intelligence_disinformation). We paint Russia out to be our greatest adversaries and a threat to the safety of America. Meanwhile, Russia has it's hands full with Ukraine. Let that sink in. We always hear about the cold war and the arms race with Russia but frankly, there military never really rebounded from WW2. A war they fought side by side with us, sustaining exponentially more casualties. We don't teach that though. We like to teach about storming the beach at Normandy. My stance has always been the same. Let Slavic peoples deal with Slavic peoples. We have no business involving ourselves.

    We fought side by side against a common enemy but times have changed.  

    I've said it before & I'll say it again..I don't want any American boots on the ground anywhere there is a war. This is & will be a European problem & they have been our allies since WWII. I do not like how the Donald cozies up to Putin because he's not smart enough to come out a winner. Saying Ukraine started the war with Russia proves once again our president takes subservient role with Putin.

    I don't like it one bit. 

     
    StumpTownStu
    StumpTownStu
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2016
    Posts: 22234
    Posted: Feb. 20, 2025 - 6:55 PM ET #556

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: LET'S GET THINGS STRAIGHT Ukraine did not start the war. Russia did. Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world. Don't be underestimating Vlady now Stu. BTW...why is the Donald being so petty & getting involved in traffic issues in the Big Apple? Do you think he gives a shit about NYC? My sister goes regularly to shows on Broadway & since the change her commute has gone from 40 to 20 minutes. How about you scooby? Have you seen the traffic change in the city? I 100% am not underestimating Putin. I'm underestimating, or rather, properly estimating the potential threat Russia poses in relation to China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia (financially) and Israel (Intelligence_disinformation). We paint Russia out to be our greatest adversaries and a threat to the safety of America. Meanwhile, Russia has it's hands full with Ukraine. Let that sink in. We always hear about the cold war and the arms race with Russia but frankly, there military never really rebounded from WW2. A war they fought side by side with us, sustaining exponentially more casualties. We don't teach that though. We like to teach about storming the beach at Normandy. My stance has always been the same. Let Slavic peoples deal with Slavic peoples. We have no business involving ourselves. We fought side by side against a common enemy but times have changed.   I've said it before & I'll say it again..I don't want any American boots on the ground anywhere there is a war. This is & will be a European problem & they have been our allies since WWII. I do not like how the Donald cozies up to Putin because he's not smart enough to come out a winner. Saying Ukraine started the war with Russia proves once again our president takes subservient role with Putin. I don't like it one bit.

    I believe the media exaggerates this issue, as if Ukraine is the first step in the reformation of the Soviet Union. Russia doesn't have a military capable of such an endeavor. Not by a long shot. The roots of the current Russo invasion run deeper than the past 3 years. And while I would stop short of flatly stating that Ukraine started it, it's a lot more nuanced than, "Putin's a mad man who invaded Ukraine without provocation." Which is the narrative pushed by American media.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: LET'S GET THINGS STRAIGHT Ukraine did not start the war. Russia did. Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world. Don't be underestimating Vlady now Stu. BTW...why is the Donald being so petty & getting involved in traffic issues in the Big Apple? Do you think he gives a shit about NYC? My sister goes regularly to shows on Broadway & since the change her commute has gone from 40 to 20 minutes. How about you scooby? Have you seen the traffic change in the city? I 100% am not underestimating Putin. I'm underestimating, or rather, properly estimating the potential threat Russia poses in relation to China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia (financially) and Israel (Intelligence_disinformation). We paint Russia out to be our greatest adversaries and a threat to the safety of America. Meanwhile, Russia has it's hands full with Ukraine. Let that sink in. We always hear about the cold war and the arms race with Russia but frankly, there military never really rebounded from WW2. A war they fought side by side with us, sustaining exponentially more casualties. We don't teach that though. We like to teach about storming the beach at Normandy. My stance has always been the same. Let Slavic peoples deal with Slavic peoples. We have no business involving ourselves. We fought side by side against a common enemy but times have changed.   I've said it before & I'll say it again..I don't want any American boots on the ground anywhere there is a war. This is & will be a European problem & they have been our allies since WWII. I do not like how the Donald cozies up to Putin because he's not smart enough to come out a winner. Saying Ukraine started the war with Russia proves once again our president takes subservient role with Putin. I don't like it one bit.

    I believe the media exaggerates this issue, as if Ukraine is the first step in the reformation of the Soviet Union. Russia doesn't have a military capable of such an endeavor. Not by a long shot. The roots of the current Russo invasion run deeper than the past 3 years. And while I would stop short of flatly stating that Ukraine started it, it's a lot more nuanced than, "Putin's a mad man who invaded Ukraine without provocation." Which is the narrative pushed by American media.

     
    UNIMAN
    UNIMAN
    All-Star
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2014
    Posts: 10454
    Posted: Feb. 20, 2025 - 9:44 PM ET #557

    @StumpTownStu

     You're talking obvious logic. 

    peace_5

    Reply

    @StumpTownStu

     You're talking obvious logic. 

    peace_5

     
    UNIMAN
    UNIMAN
    All-Star
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2014
    Posts: 10454
    Posted: Feb. 20, 2025 - 9:46 PM ET #558

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    WHAT FID HE SAY LAST NIGHT ON FOX? Howard Lutnick, Dipshit Donnie's billionaire buddy turned commerce secretary, has confirmed that the administration was simply lying to MAGA supporters about not touching Social Security and Medicare. “Back in October … I flew down to Texas, got Elon Musk to [set up DOGE], and here was our agreement: that Elon was gonna cut a trillion dollars of waste fraud and abuse,” Lutnick told Jesse Waters of Fox News Wednesday night. “We have almost $4 trillion of entitlements, and no one’s ever looked at it before. You know Social Security is wrong, you know Medicaid and Medicare are wrong. So he’s gonna cut a trillion and we’re gonna get rid of all these tax scams that hammer against America and we’re gonna raise a trillion dollars of revenue.” If he's counting on Musk's ability to find trillions of fraud & waste in Medicare & SS, he's going to be sorely disappointed. Fuck with Social Security, which is our damn money, and his career in government will be over before he even gets started.

    So weeding out any fraud found in social security and medicare is now "messing with" same?

    Sounds like something a fraudster would say.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    WHAT FID HE SAY LAST NIGHT ON FOX? Howard Lutnick, Dipshit Donnie's billionaire buddy turned commerce secretary, has confirmed that the administration was simply lying to MAGA supporters about not touching Social Security and Medicare. “Back in October … I flew down to Texas, got Elon Musk to [set up DOGE], and here was our agreement: that Elon was gonna cut a trillion dollars of waste fraud and abuse,” Lutnick told Jesse Waters of Fox News Wednesday night. “We have almost $4 trillion of entitlements, and no one’s ever looked at it before. You know Social Security is wrong, you know Medicaid and Medicare are wrong. So he’s gonna cut a trillion and we’re gonna get rid of all these tax scams that hammer against America and we’re gonna raise a trillion dollars of revenue.” If he's counting on Musk's ability to find trillions of fraud & waste in Medicare & SS, he's going to be sorely disappointed. Fuck with Social Security, which is our damn money, and his career in government will be over before he even gets started.

    So weeding out any fraud found in social security and medicare is now "messing with" same?

    Sounds like something a fraudster would say.

     
    Midnight1
    Midnight1
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2007
    Posts: 25506
    Posted: Feb. 20, 2025 - 11:13 PM ET #559

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: WHAT FID HE SAY LAST NIGHT ON FOX? Howard Lutnick, Dipshit Donnie's billionaire buddy turned commerce secretary, has confirmed that the administration was simply lying to MAGA supporters about not touching Social Security and Medicare. “Back in October … I flew down to Texas, got Elon Musk to [set up DOGE], and here was our agreement: that Elon was gonna cut a trillion dollars of waste fraud and abuse,” Lutnick told Jesse Waters of Fox News Wednesday night. “We have almost $4 trillion of entitlements, and no one’s ever looked at it before. You know Social Security is wrong, you know Medicaid and Medicare are wrong. So he’s gonna cut a trillion and we’re gonna get rid of all these tax scams that hammer against America and we’re gonna raise a trillion dollars of revenue.” If he's counting on Musk's ability to find trillions of fraud & waste in Medicare & SS, he's going to be sorely disappointed. Fuck with Social Security, which is our damn money, and his career in government will be over before he even gets started. So weeding out any fraud found in social security and medicare is now "messing with" same? Sounds like something a fraudster would say.

    If fraud is found, tell the American public who, what, when etc. Don't make a bullshit statement without sharing the findings.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: WHAT FID HE SAY LAST NIGHT ON FOX? Howard Lutnick, Dipshit Donnie's billionaire buddy turned commerce secretary, has confirmed that the administration was simply lying to MAGA supporters about not touching Social Security and Medicare. “Back in October … I flew down to Texas, got Elon Musk to [set up DOGE], and here was our agreement: that Elon was gonna cut a trillion dollars of waste fraud and abuse,” Lutnick told Jesse Waters of Fox News Wednesday night. “We have almost $4 trillion of entitlements, and no one’s ever looked at it before. You know Social Security is wrong, you know Medicaid and Medicare are wrong. So he’s gonna cut a trillion and we’re gonna get rid of all these tax scams that hammer against America and we’re gonna raise a trillion dollars of revenue.” If he's counting on Musk's ability to find trillions of fraud & waste in Medicare & SS, he's going to be sorely disappointed. Fuck with Social Security, which is our damn money, and his career in government will be over before he even gets started. So weeding out any fraud found in social security and medicare is now "messing with" same? Sounds like something a fraudster would say.

    If fraud is found, tell the American public who, what, when etc. Don't make a bullshit statement without sharing the findings.

     
    KellyM_1964
    KellyM_1964
    MVP
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2009
    Posts: 16753
    Posted: Feb. 21, 2025 - 12:36 AM ET #560

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: WHAT FID HE SAY LAST NIGHT ON FOX? Howard Lutnick, Dipshit Donnie's billionaire buddy turned commerce secretary, has confirmed that the administration was simply lying to MAGA supporters about not touching Social Security and Medicare. “Back in October … I flew down to Texas, got Elon Musk to [set up DOGE], and here was our agreement: that Elon was gonna cut a trillion dollars of waste fraud and abuse,” Lutnick told Jesse Waters of Fox News Wednesday night. “We have almost $4 trillion of entitlements, and no one’s ever looked at it before. You know Social Security is wrong, you know Medicaid and Medicare are wrong. So he’s gonna cut a trillion and we’re gonna get rid of all these tax scams that hammer against America and we’re gonna raise a trillion dollars of revenue.” If he's counting on Musk's ability to find trillions of fraud & waste in Medicare & SS, he's going to be sorely disappointed. Fuck with Social Security, which is our damn money, and his career in government will be over before he even gets started. So weeding out any fraud found in social security and medicare is now "messing with" same? Sounds like something a fraudster would say.                                      If fraud is found, tell the American public who, what, when etc. Don't make a bullshit statement without sharing the findings.

    @Midnight1

     

    peace_5   an_clap

    "I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: WHAT FID HE SAY LAST NIGHT ON FOX? Howard Lutnick, Dipshit Donnie's billionaire buddy turned commerce secretary, has confirmed that the administration was simply lying to MAGA supporters about not touching Social Security and Medicare. “Back in October … I flew down to Texas, got Elon Musk to [set up DOGE], and here was our agreement: that Elon was gonna cut a trillion dollars of waste fraud and abuse,” Lutnick told Jesse Waters of Fox News Wednesday night. “We have almost $4 trillion of entitlements, and no one’s ever looked at it before. You know Social Security is wrong, you know Medicaid and Medicare are wrong. So he’s gonna cut a trillion and we’re gonna get rid of all these tax scams that hammer against America and we’re gonna raise a trillion dollars of revenue.” If he's counting on Musk's ability to find trillions of fraud & waste in Medicare & SS, he's going to be sorely disappointed. Fuck with Social Security, which is our damn money, and his career in government will be over before he even gets started. So weeding out any fraud found in social security and medicare is now "messing with" same? Sounds like something a fraudster would say.                                      If fraud is found, tell the American public who, what, when etc. Don't make a bullshit statement without sharing the findings.

    @Midnight1

     

    peace_5   an_clap

     
    soup-can
    soup-can
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2003
    Posts: 9450
    Posted: Feb. 21, 2025 - 12:59 AM ET #561

    serious question for everyone here...why would a leader of a questionable corrupt government who has received just short of 100 BILLION in aid from the US all of a sudden mouth off?  

    Zelenskyy estimated that Ukraine had received $98.5bn in US military and financial support.  This guy Volodymyr Zelenskyy is nothing but a show clown.  There was 130.1 billion tagged for Ukraine and this asshat is crying a river and pushing back?  Same guy was begging for money and weapons for free.  What has the US received back for our services??  crickets 

    OK tough guy, go do it on your own then

    Good luck getting support from you're 'NATO' border countries

    Reply

    serious question for everyone here...why would a leader of a questionable corrupt government who has received just short of 100 BILLION in aid from the US all of a sudden mouth off?  

    Zelenskyy estimated that Ukraine had received $98.5bn in US military and financial support.  This guy Volodymyr Zelenskyy is nothing but a show clown.  There was 130.1 billion tagged for Ukraine and this asshat is crying a river and pushing back?  Same guy was begging for money and weapons for free.  What has the US received back for our services??  crickets 

    OK tough guy, go do it on your own then

    Good luck getting support from you're 'NATO' border countries

     
    Midnight1
    Midnight1
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2007
    Posts: 25506
    Posted: Feb. 21, 2025 - 3:01 PM ET #562

    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    serious question for everyone here...why would a leader of a questionable corrupt government who has received just short of 100 BILLION in aid from the US all of a sudden mouth off?   Zelenskyy estimated that Ukraine had received $98.5bn in US military and financial support.  This guy Volodymyr Zelenskyy is nothing but a show clown.  There was 130.1 billion tagged for Ukraine and this asshat is crying a river and pushing back?  Same guy was begging for money and weapons for free.  What has the US received back for our services??  crickets  OK tough guy, go do it on your own then Good luck getting support from you're 'NATO' border countries

    Serious question my ass. But I'm in a great mood today, so I'll play along.

    Mouth off??? Like all of a sudden he should become mute after being called a dictator & told any peace deal would involve the US receiving 50% of Ukraine minerals in perpetuity? How would you react if a country providing support makes a complete about face because of a Putin puppet?

    How would you react to a threat that a "deal can be done the easy way or the hard way?" How about not having a seat at the table when peace discussions were taking place regarding YOUR country's' future?

    Zelensky is smart enough to know that continued European support is in his best interests & of the leaders of Europe. Dipshit Donnie & his half assed drunk wife abuser Secretary of State Hegseth already showed their hand in high stakes negotiations .

    What morons. Maybe they should mind their own business & address the mess they created over the last month.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by soup-can:

    serious question for everyone here...why would a leader of a questionable corrupt government who has received just short of 100 BILLION in aid from the US all of a sudden mouth off?   Zelenskyy estimated that Ukraine had received $98.5bn in US military and financial support.  This guy Volodymyr Zelenskyy is nothing but a show clown.  There was 130.1 billion tagged for Ukraine and this asshat is crying a river and pushing back?  Same guy was begging for money and weapons for free.  What has the US received back for our services??  crickets  OK tough guy, go do it on your own then Good luck getting support from you're 'NATO' border countries

    Serious question my ass. But I'm in a great mood today, so I'll play along.

    Mouth off??? Like all of a sudden he should become mute after being called a dictator & told any peace deal would involve the US receiving 50% of Ukraine minerals in perpetuity? How would you react if a country providing support makes a complete about face because of a Putin puppet?

    How would you react to a threat that a "deal can be done the easy way or the hard way?" How about not having a seat at the table when peace discussions were taking place regarding YOUR country's' future?

    Zelensky is smart enough to know that continued European support is in his best interests & of the leaders of Europe. Dipshit Donnie & his half assed drunk wife abuser Secretary of State Hegseth already showed their hand in high stakes negotiations .

    What morons. Maybe they should mind their own business & address the mess they created over the last month.

     
    kcblitzkrieg
    kcblitzkrieg
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jan, 2008
    Posts: 7997
    Posted: Feb. 21, 2025 - 4:15 PM ET #563

    @Midnight1

     'lil Z is much more hapless victim than dictator.  He was squeezed by Victoria Nuland and the warmongering uniparty cabal, who of course engineered the 2014 Ukrainian coup under the Obama administration, which of course led to the first Russian incursion and claiming of territory.  Z is just a puppet in the game and is trying hard to stay relevant in this discussion of what was always going to be Ukraine ceding territory to Russia.  I've spoken on this inevitable reality for years here on covers and it is playing out exactly so.  'lil Z is the hapless victim because he was hung out to dry by the same uniparty cabal that installed him and now that they are out of power, Z has no other choice but to cozy up to European leaders with a hope and a prayer.  The problem with this is Europe is in no position to provide what he needs and would require drastic movements in their policies and philosophies to get what is needed.  It is not something that can just happen overnight and time is not on Z and slava Ukraini’s side. 

    The interesting third party that could swoop in to save the day, and what Trump should fear, is China.  If China wants to, they could be the saving hero in this and that would come at the expense of the US for sure. 

    Also….. Pete is SecDef.  Rubio Secretary of State.   I’m glad you’re in a good mood today, it has been rough watching some of you guys around this forum the last 4 weeks.  Yes, only 4 weeks in to a 208 week stretch we are all headed down.  Most I could give a shiit about but you Darkness, I’m looking out for you, gotta keep that psyche level.  Getting out on the water will help peace_5

     

    You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves now...
    Reply

    @Midnight1

     'lil Z is much more hapless victim than dictator.  He was squeezed by Victoria Nuland and the warmongering uniparty cabal, who of course engineered the 2014 Ukrainian coup under the Obama administration, which of course led to the first Russian incursion and claiming of territory.  Z is just a puppet in the game and is trying hard to stay relevant in this discussion of what was always going to be Ukraine ceding territory to Russia.  I've spoken on this inevitable reality for years here on covers and it is playing out exactly so.  'lil Z is the hapless victim because he was hung out to dry by the same uniparty cabal that installed him and now that they are out of power, Z has no other choice but to cozy up to European leaders with a hope and a prayer.  The problem with this is Europe is in no position to provide what he needs and would require drastic movements in their policies and philosophies to get what is needed.  It is not something that can just happen overnight and time is not on Z and slava Ukraini’s side. 

    The interesting third party that could swoop in to save the day, and what Trump should fear, is China.  If China wants to, they could be the saving hero in this and that would come at the expense of the US for sure. 

    Also….. Pete is SecDef.  Rubio Secretary of State.   I’m glad you’re in a good mood today, it has been rough watching some of you guys around this forum the last 4 weeks.  Yes, only 4 weeks in to a 208 week stretch we are all headed down.  Most I could give a shiit about but you Darkness, I’m looking out for you, gotta keep that psyche level.  Getting out on the water will help peace_5

     

     
    UNIMAN
    UNIMAN
    All-Star
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2014
    Posts: 10454
    Posted: Feb. 21, 2025 - 6:06 PM ET #564

    @kcblitzkrieg

     Well said.

    And Trump's actions force the EU to put up or shutup. 

    Reply

    @kcblitzkrieg

     Well said.

    And Trump's actions force the EU to put up or shutup. 

     
    fubah2
    fubah2
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2012
    Posts: 53256
    Posted: Feb. 21, 2025 - 9:34 PM ET #565

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Serious question my ass. But I'm in a great mood today, so I'll play along.

    Mouth off??? Like all of a sudden he should become mute after being called a dictator & told any peace deal would involve the US receiving 50% of Ukraine minerals in perpetuity?

    How would you react if a country providing support makes a complete about face because of a Putin puppet?

    How would you react to a threat that a "deal can be done the easy way or the hard way?" How about not having a seat at the table when peace discussions were taking place regarding YOUR country's' future?

    Zelensky is smart enough to know that continued European support is in his best interests & of the leaders of Europe.

    Dipshit Donnie & his half assed drunk wife abuser Secretary of State Hegseth already showed their hand in high stakes negotiations .

    What morons. Maybe they should mind their own business & address the mess they created over the last month.

    @Midnight1

    Well said.

    trump wants to stand by and watch his fascist friend, Putin,  RAPE Ukraine.

     

    trump himself is just fine with RAPE

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Serious question my ass. But I'm in a great mood today, so I'll play along.

    Mouth off??? Like all of a sudden he should become mute after being called a dictator & told any peace deal would involve the US receiving 50% of Ukraine minerals in perpetuity?

    How would you react if a country providing support makes a complete about face because of a Putin puppet?

    How would you react to a threat that a "deal can be done the easy way or the hard way?" How about not having a seat at the table when peace discussions were taking place regarding YOUR country's' future?

    Zelensky is smart enough to know that continued European support is in his best interests & of the leaders of Europe.

    Dipshit Donnie & his half assed drunk wife abuser Secretary of State Hegseth already showed their hand in high stakes negotiations .

    What morons. Maybe they should mind their own business & address the mess they created over the last month.

    @Midnight1

    Well said.

    trump wants to stand by and watch his fascist friend, Putin,  RAPE Ukraine.

     

    trump himself is just fine with RAPE

     
    Midnight1
    Midnight1
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2007
    Posts: 25506
    Posted: Feb. 21, 2025 - 10:35 PM ET #566

    Reply

     
    Barbarossa
    Barbarossa
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2009
    Posts: 277981
    Posted: Feb. 21, 2025 - 11:02 PM ET #567

    @kcblitzkrieg

     

     

     

     peace_5little do these Progressives know who is really responsible for this mess  #MaidanCoup #McCaine #Obama #Hillary #Nuland

    The Pastor of Disaster
    Reply

    @kcblitzkrieg

     

     

     

     peace_5little do these Progressives know who is really responsible for this mess  #MaidanCoup #McCaine #Obama #Hillary #Nuland

     
    soup-can
    soup-can
    Banned
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2003
    Posts: 9450
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2025 - 3:47 AM ET #568

    @Midnight1

    the timeline tells all..

    1/22 - "It's time to MAKE A DEAL, We can do it the easy way or the hard way"....   this was directed at both Russia and Ukraine, not a threat to Zelenskyy

    2/14 - Zelenskyy agreed he would only meet Putin in person after negotiating a common plan with Trump.  Zelenskyy also revealed that the Trump gave him his phone number before the opening of the Munich Security Conference.....   If he has his phone # then why all the theatrics to come.  Put him on blast on X twitt??  THAT is the mouthing off I posted about.  The US has bankrolled 'their war' more than any EU nation

    2/15 - Zelenskyy warned “America might say no to Europe on issues that threaten it, the old days are over when America supported Europe just because it always had".

    This is classic 'Poke the Bear' as you can see, Zelenskyy is twisting the screws through media when he has the direct phone # to the mediator.

    2/16 - Macron called an emergency summit with EU leaders, Starmer said he is prepared to send British troops to Ukraine...   well, it's about time, three war years now and bupkis from the EU...unless we dont know about it because there was no given information from Bidens admin.

    2/18 - Zelenskyy vowed to reject Moscow’s "ultimatums" made during the negotiations.  “We are absolutely honest and open. I don’t want any coincidences". 

    The shit then hit the fan, leading to Trump claiming Dictator but Zelenskyy term ended and no elections and martial law....this is not a stretch

    2/19 - Zelenskyy says Trump is "living in a disinformation space"....   then Trump blew a gasket an_speechless

    2/20 - Kellogg met with Zelenskyy, to be a fly on the wall for this meeting!!  this meeting basically gave Zelenskyy a backdoor into NATO... not confirmed but it's the security he wants so if Putin breaks treaty, then Ukraine backs into NATO.  nothing official.  

    Then today there is now an agreement on the rare earth minerals and 'other points of interest' to the US for the $100 Billion bankroll.  

    its all a sham, Trump plays the mean guy 'Do as I say' and Zelenskyy plays the damsel in distress

    If Ukraine wants in NATO then they'll give half their country to Russia in return, this is another endless war..... sorry this post is so longpeace_5

    Reply

    @Midnight1

    the timeline tells all..

    1/22 - "It's time to MAKE A DEAL, We can do it the easy way or the hard way"....   this was directed at both Russia and Ukraine, not a threat to Zelenskyy

    2/14 - Zelenskyy agreed he would only meet Putin in person after negotiating a common plan with Trump.  Zelenskyy also revealed that the Trump gave him his phone number before the opening of the Munich Security Conference.....   If he has his phone # then why all the theatrics to come.  Put him on blast on X twitt??  THAT is the mouthing off I posted about.  The US has bankrolled 'their war' more than any EU nation

    2/15 - Zelenskyy warned “America might say no to Europe on issues that threaten it, the old days are over when America supported Europe just because it always had".

    This is classic 'Poke the Bear' as you can see, Zelenskyy is twisting the screws through media when he has the direct phone # to the mediator.

    2/16 - Macron called an emergency summit with EU leaders, Starmer said he is prepared to send British troops to Ukraine...   well, it's about time, three war years now and bupkis from the EU...unless we dont know about it because there was no given information from Bidens admin.

    2/18 - Zelenskyy vowed to reject Moscow’s "ultimatums" made during the negotiations.  “We are absolutely honest and open. I don’t want any coincidences". 

    The shit then hit the fan, leading to Trump claiming Dictator but Zelenskyy term ended and no elections and martial law....this is not a stretch

    2/19 - Zelenskyy says Trump is "living in a disinformation space"....   then Trump blew a gasket an_speechless

    2/20 - Kellogg met with Zelenskyy, to be a fly on the wall for this meeting!!  this meeting basically gave Zelenskyy a backdoor into NATO... not confirmed but it's the security he wants so if Putin breaks treaty, then Ukraine backs into NATO.  nothing official.  

    Then today there is now an agreement on the rare earth minerals and 'other points of interest' to the US for the $100 Billion bankroll.  

    its all a sham, Trump plays the mean guy 'Do as I say' and Zelenskyy plays the damsel in distress

    If Ukraine wants in NATO then they'll give half their country to Russia in return, this is another endless war..... sorry this post is so longpeace_5

     
    thirdperson
    thirdperson
    Captain
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Feb, 2005
    Posts: 9427
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2025 - 9:41 AM ET #569

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world.

    Republican Tillis calls Putin the greatest threat to democracy in his lifetime.  In the last 3 years, Putin's invasion of Ukraine has lead to more war deaths and destruction than in several countries combined.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world.

    Republican Tillis calls Putin the greatest threat to democracy in his lifetime.  In the last 3 years, Putin's invasion of Ukraine has lead to more war deaths and destruction than in several countries combined.

     
    Europa
    Europa
    Legend
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Dec, 2003
    Posts: 42673
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2025 - 12:04 PM ET #570

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world. Republican Tillis calls Putin the greatest threat to democracy in his lifetime.  In the last 3 years, Putin's invasion of Ukraine has lead to more war deaths and destruction than in several countries combined.

    Yes, I watched that video clip yesterday. GOP Senator Thom Tillis calls Russian President Vladimir Putin a "cancer" in his speech. 

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world. Republican Tillis calls Putin the greatest threat to democracy in his lifetime.  In the last 3 years, Putin's invasion of Ukraine has lead to more war deaths and destruction than in several countries combined.

    Yes, I watched that video clip yesterday. GOP Senator Thom Tillis calls Russian President Vladimir Putin a "cancer" in his speech. 

     
    UNIMAN
    UNIMAN
    All-Star
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2014
    Posts: 10454
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2025 - 12:31 PM ET #571

    Tillis, the same guy censured by North Carolina GOP? Yep, that's him.

    How about Lindsey Graham calling for Putin to be assassinated? an_roll_laugh

    Reply

    Tillis, the same guy censured by North Carolina GOP? Yep, that's him.

    How about Lindsey Graham calling for Putin to be assassinated? an_roll_laugh

     
    StumpTownStu
    StumpTownStu
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2016
    Posts: 22234
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2025 - 1:11 PM ET #572

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world. Republican Tillis calls Putin the greatest threat to democracy in his lifetime.  In the last 3 years, Putin's invasion of Ukraine has lead to more war deaths and destruction than in several countries combined.

    Shining star of the liberal agenda, Tom Tillis. I wonder which defense lobbyist told him to say all that?

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator.  Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world. Republican Tillis calls Putin the greatest threat to democracy in his lifetime.  In the last 3 years, Putin's invasion of Ukraine has lead to more war deaths and destruction than in several countries combined.

    Shining star of the liberal agenda, Tom Tillis. I wonder which defense lobbyist told him to say all that?

     
    StumpTownStu
    StumpTownStu
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2016
    Posts: 22234
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2025 - 1:23 PM ET #573

    The Russian army is having a hard enough time in the eastern Ukrainian Oblastsh but Putin is the greatest threat to democracy. Not Xi. Putin. When did liberals become such warhawks? We help bring about this proxy war that equates to the loss of Ukrainian and Russian lives for nothing more than to pump money into the miltary industrial complex and democrats are all, "Yeah, get'em! Putin is the devil! Greatest threat to democracy!'

    All these boomers grew up reading comics so they fall for these comic book narratives.

    R.I.P. #94 MARSHAWN KNEELAND - DC4L
    Reply

    The Russian army is having a hard enough time in the eastern Ukrainian Oblastsh but Putin is the greatest threat to democracy. Not Xi. Putin. When did liberals become such warhawks? We help bring about this proxy war that equates to the loss of Ukrainian and Russian lives for nothing more than to pump money into the miltary industrial complex and democrats are all, "Yeah, get'em! Putin is the devil! Greatest threat to democracy!'

    All these boomers grew up reading comics so they fall for these comic book narratives.

     
    UNIMAN
    UNIMAN
    All-Star
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2014
    Posts: 10454
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2025 - 4:40 PM ET #574

    Putin is such an obvious threat to democracy and that's why Gerrmany was trying to double the capacity of natural gas it purchases from Russia with Nord Stream 2.

    Make sense? confused

    Reply

    Putin is such an obvious threat to democracy and that's why Gerrmany was trying to double the capacity of natural gas it purchases from Russia with Nord Stream 2.

    Make sense? confused

     
     
    Midnight1
    Midnight1
    Hall of Fame
    Participation Meter
    Joined: May, 2007
    Posts: 25506
    Posted: Feb. 22, 2025 - 6:57 PM ET #575

    @UNIMAN

     Did you see the measles outbreak in Texas doubled again to 100?

     

    Reply

    @UNIMAN

     Did you see the measles outbreak in Texas doubled again to 100?

     

    All Forums | Politics
    «First Previous 232425 ... 787980 Next Last»

    Hot Forums IconHot Forum Topics

    • 🤢🥴💩_ Fubah's risky baseball bets _🥶😲🥵 450,321
    • Friday 09/25/2026 688
    • 🏈🏈🏈 Fubah2's risky CFB bets 261,888
    • PART DEUX 167
    • NFL LOCKED IN! 100,476
    • Happening just recently . . . 34,767
    • POY: Clemson +1 at Cal 5,398
    • 9/25 🥩🥩🥩 2,487
    • NCAA FOOTBALL. 151 26,207
    • **$$$ MD Friday 9/25 $$$** 3,576

    Warning - External Link

    Report User

    Thank you for reporting
    This content is abusive or harmful
    This post is spam
    An error has occurred
    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

    Delete Post

    Are you sure you would like to remove this post?

    Remove Thread

    Are you sure you would like to remove this thread?

    Scan Results

    Login/Register

    Happy to have you join the conversation. To do so, please login or create an account.
    Accounts are free and easy to create.

    Search


    Loading…

    Loading…

    About Us
    Contact Us
    Careers
    Our Team
    Brand
    Testimonials
    Betting Guides
    Sportsbook Reviews
    Betting News
    Podcasts
    Responsible Gambling
    Betting Sites
    US Betting Sites
    Canada Betting Sites
    Canada Casinos
    Best Betting Apps
    Contests
    Streak Survivor
    King of Covers
    Ultimate Race
    Office Pools
    The Covers community has
    810,221
    lifetime members worldwide
    Join our community today
    Covers 30 Years Logo Established in 1995,
    Covers is the world
    leader in sports
    betting information.
    21+
    Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER
    Help Privacy Terms of Service Cookies Sitemap Forum
    YouTube logo
    Facebook logo
    Twitter logo
    Instagram logo
    LinkedIn logo
    Google News logo
    Covers is verified safe by:
    Evalon Logo Logo GPWA Logo GDPR logo Logo GeoTrust logo Logo PCI DSS logo Logo
    Copyright © 1995 - 2026 Genius Sports. All Rights Reserved.
    If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.