seriously are you living in a cave somewhere.
Let me explain it once again in this thread for you.
The govt keeps saying if you like your insurance you can keep it. Well that statement is true but what they are failing to tell everybody is the part in the bill where your employer can pay a fee to the govt and your employer can throw you into the public plan, thus riding themselves of having to pay for their employess anymore (1). Now if you think employers are going to keep paying employees insurance, when they dont have to anymore, you my friend are living in a real dream world. Its in the bill, just like its in the bill where the politicians exclueded themselves from having to take this bullshit public plan(2). Man Disco you had better wake up and start realizing what is taking place before its to late. All you brainwashed dems are going to be sick when this shit goes down, mark my words on that one.
(1) Is that the language from the bill? Is that how the bill is written? What is the language verbatim from the bill that says this and please link it if possible...if not just the exact language please.
(2) Again, how can this be factual, I find it hard to believe to say the least. But again, where did you get this notion from?
seriously are you living in a cave somewhere.
Let me explain it once again in this thread for you.
The govt keeps saying if you like your insurance you can keep it. Well that statement is true but what they are failing to tell everybody is the part in the bill where your employer can pay a fee to the govt and your employer can throw you into the public plan, thus riding themselves of having to pay for their employess anymore (1). Now if you think employers are going to keep paying employees insurance, when they dont have to anymore, you my friend are living in a real dream world. Its in the bill, just like its in the bill where the politicians exclueded themselves from having to take this bullshit public plan(2). Man Disco you had better wake up and start realizing what is taking place before its to late. All you brainwashed dems are going to be sick when this shit goes down, mark my words on that one.
(1) Is that the language from the bill? Is that how the bill is written? What is the language verbatim from the bill that says this and please link it if possible...if not just the exact language please.
(2) Again, how can this be factual, I find it hard to believe to say the least. But again, where did you get this notion from?
(1) Is that the language from the bill? Is that how the bill is written? What is the language verbatim from the bill that says this and please link it if possible...if not just the exact language please.
(2) Again, how can this be factual, I find it hard to believe to say the least. But again, where did you get this notion from?
Disco, believe what you want then. Why dont you take some time and go read the damn bill or better yet visit some of the many links that have been posted here where people have broken the bill down line by line. If you dont want to believe these 2 facts, then thats your business, but dont say nobody told you when this shit passes. Keep listening to pelosi and reid for your info.
(1) Is that the language from the bill? Is that how the bill is written? What is the language verbatim from the bill that says this and please link it if possible...if not just the exact language please.
(2) Again, how can this be factual, I find it hard to believe to say the least. But again, where did you get this notion from?
Disco, believe what you want then. Why dont you take some time and go read the damn bill or better yet visit some of the many links that have been posted here where people have broken the bill down line by line. If you dont want to believe these 2 facts, then thats your business, but dont say nobody told you when this shit passes. Keep listening to pelosi and reid for your info.
(1) Is that the language from the bill? Is that how the bill is written? What is the language verbatim from the bill that says this and please link it if possible...if not just the exact language please.
(2) Again, how can this be factual, I find it hard to believe to say the least. But again, where did you get this notion from?
(1) Is that the language from the bill? Is that how the bill is written? What is the language verbatim from the bill that says this and please link it if possible...if not just the exact language please.
(2) Again, how can this be factual, I find it hard to believe to say the least. But again, where did you get this notion from?
Disco, believe what you want then. Why dont you take some time and go read the damn bill or better yet visit some of the many links that have been posted here where people have broken the bill down line by line. If you dont want to believe these 2 facts, then thats your business, but dont say nobody told you when this shit passes. Keep listening to pelosi and reid for your info.
I'll say this again...slowly for those of you who don\t understand.
I don't give a shit about this bill. It does not affact me. I'm trying to understand your concerns on this bill.
You're believing exactly what you want cd, not me.
Webpages "that have broken the bill down line by line" - ![]()
Are these the same web pages telling you about the death panels?
Please, what is the exact language from the bill that has you so scared....not what some conservative blogger has told you what's in the bill.
Come on. ![]()
Disco, believe what you want then. Why dont you take some time and go read the damn bill or better yet visit some of the many links that have been posted here where people have broken the bill down line by line. If you dont want to believe these 2 facts, then thats your business, but dont say nobody told you when this shit passes. Keep listening to pelosi and reid for your info.
I'll say this again...slowly for those of you who don\t understand.
I don't give a shit about this bill. It does not affact me. I'm trying to understand your concerns on this bill.
You're believing exactly what you want cd, not me.
Webpages "that have broken the bill down line by line" - ![]()
Are these the same web pages telling you about the death panels?
Please, what is the exact language from the bill that has you so scared....not what some conservative blogger has told you what's in the bill.
Come on. ![]()
I'll say this again...slowly for those of you who don\t understand.
I don't give a shit about this bill. It does not affact me. I'm trying to understand your concerns on this bill.
You're believing exactly what you want cd, not me.
Webpages "that have broken the bill down line by line" - ![]()
Are these the same web pages telling you about the death panels?
Please, what is the exact language from the bill that has you so scared....not what some conservative blogger has told you what's in the bill.
Come on. ![]()
Disco, there really must be something wrong with you. There are web sites which went line by line breaking the bill down and next to the break down they put what page you can find it in the bill.
I have stated it many times in this thread what am concerned about that is in the bill, am not going to write it again. Go back and read or quit asking the damn question.
But here i will say it again for you hard to understand folks, like disco. If your an employer, you can pay a fee to the govt and put all your employees into the public plan. Thats what am friggin concerned about. Iam going to lose my very good health plan and put in some friggin garbage public plan, that the politicians dont want to take for themselves. Is that simple enough for you to understand disco? Yes its in the bill and if you dont believe the people here telling you the same thing, then go read the damn bill.
I'll say this again...slowly for those of you who don\t understand.
I don't give a shit about this bill. It does not affact me. I'm trying to understand your concerns on this bill.
You're believing exactly what you want cd, not me.
Webpages "that have broken the bill down line by line" - ![]()
Are these the same web pages telling you about the death panels?
Please, what is the exact language from the bill that has you so scared....not what some conservative blogger has told you what's in the bill.
Come on. ![]()
Disco, there really must be something wrong with you. There are web sites which went line by line breaking the bill down and next to the break down they put what page you can find it in the bill.
I have stated it many times in this thread what am concerned about that is in the bill, am not going to write it again. Go back and read or quit asking the damn question.
But here i will say it again for you hard to understand folks, like disco. If your an employer, you can pay a fee to the govt and put all your employees into the public plan. Thats what am friggin concerned about. Iam going to lose my very good health plan and put in some friggin garbage public plan, that the politicians dont want to take for themselves. Is that simple enough for you to understand disco? Yes its in the bill and if you dont believe the people here telling you the same thing, then go read the damn bill.
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Esplanade/APK alias - I'm trying to understand his concerns. I normally do not respond to your nonesense - but what don't you understand about having a discussion based on cd's concerns from this bill...which by the way, he can't even point to where in the bill he's getting them from, nor what it says that is making him believe this.
You guys take what some blogger says on faith? Or does this bill actually say what you're claiming it says?
These are reasonable requests ![]()
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Esplanade/APK alias - I'm trying to understand his concerns. I normally do not respond to your nonesense - but what don't you understand about having a discussion based on cd's concerns from this bill...which by the way, he can't even point to where in the bill he's getting them from, nor what it says that is making him believe this.
You guys take what some blogger says on faith? Or does this bill actually say what you're claiming it says?
These are reasonable requests ![]()
Esplanade/APK alias - I'm trying to understand his concerns. I normally do not respond to your nonesense - but what don't you understand about having a discussion based on cd's concerns from this bill...which by the way, he can't even point to where in the bill he's getting them from, nor what it says that is making him believe this.
You guys take what some blogger says on faith? Or does this bill actually say what you're claiming it says?
These are reasonable requests ![]()
DiscoD69, your request ceases to be reasonable when you call a poster names, quote yourself and use SCREAM type ..... then expect an answer ........ROLF.
Esplanade/APK alias - I'm trying to understand his concerns. I normally do not respond to your nonesense - but what don't you understand about having a discussion based on cd's concerns from this bill...which by the way, he can't even point to where in the bill he's getting them from, nor what it says that is making him believe this.
You guys take what some blogger says on faith? Or does this bill actually say what you're claiming it says?
These are reasonable requests ![]()
DiscoD69, your request ceases to be reasonable when you call a poster names, quote yourself and use SCREAM type ..... then expect an answer ........ROLF.
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Esplanade/APK alias - I'm trying to understand his concerns. I normally do not respond to your nonesense - but what don't you understand about having a discussion based on cd's concerns from this bill...which by the way, he can't even point to where in the bill he's getting them from, nor what it says that is making him believe this.
You guys take what some blogger says on faith? Or does this bill actually say what you're claiming it says?
These are reasonable requests ![]()
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Esplanade/APK alias - I'm trying to understand his concerns. I normally do not respond to your nonesense - but what don't you understand about having a discussion based on cd's concerns from this bill...which by the way, he can't even point to where in the bill he's getting them from, nor what it says that is making him believe this.
You guys take what some blogger says on faith? Or does this bill actually say what you're claiming it says?
These are reasonable requests ![]()
As opposed you as the typical republican...
hate filled, bitter, uninformed, disoganized, uninterested in discourse and common interests....
fuck I'm not supposed to respond to your nonsense... end.
But still waiting on you cd ![]()
As opposed you as the typical republican...
hate filled, bitter, uninformed, disoganized, uninterested in discourse and common interests....
fuck I'm not supposed to respond to your nonsense... end.
But still waiting on you cd ![]()
As opposed you as the typical republican...
hate filled, bitter, uninformed, disoganized, uninterested in discourse and common interests....
fuck I'm not supposed to respond to your nonsense... end.
But still waiting on you cd ![]()
Disco, i dont give a rats ass if you believe its in the bill or not. I know its in the bill and its going to screw me and my family, so please if you are to lazy to do your own research shut the hell up.
Why are you so worried about our healthcare system anyways, you live in canada. Worry about your own system
As opposed you as the typical republican...
hate filled, bitter, uninformed, disoganized, uninterested in discourse and common interests....
fuck I'm not supposed to respond to your nonsense... end.
But still waiting on you cd ![]()
Disco, i dont give a rats ass if you believe its in the bill or not. I know its in the bill and its going to screw me and my family, so please if you are to lazy to do your own research shut the hell up.
Why are you so worried about our healthcare system anyways, you live in canada. Worry about your own system
As opposed you as the typical republican...
hate filled, bitter, uninformed, disoganized, uninterested in discourse and common interests....
fuck I'm not supposed to respond to your nonsense... end.
But still waiting on you cd ![]()
Why don't you do a little reading on the dissatisfaction level in health care in Canada. It sucks. Now I'm sure you'll claim most people love it..............................
I'd say that list of adjectives describes you quite nicely, though inept, inadequate, impotent, and laughable should be added.
As opposed you as the typical republican...
hate filled, bitter, uninformed, disoganized, uninterested in discourse and common interests....
fuck I'm not supposed to respond to your nonsense... end.
But still waiting on you cd ![]()
Why don't you do a little reading on the dissatisfaction level in health care in Canada. It sucks. Now I'm sure you'll claim most people love it..............................
I'd say that list of adjectives describes you quite nicely, though inept, inadequate, impotent, and laughable should be added.
DiscoD69, your request ceases to be reasonable when you call a poster names, quote yourself and use SCREAM type ..... then expect an answer ........ROLF.
Slim ![]()
did you read post 133? did I 'scream' it then? Maybe I just made the size larger so they didn't 'miss' the point again...which they still have...
and where you you possibly get the idea that I would want to hear anything from esplanade, when all he's ever provided covers to date, is verbal diarrhea?
get real. I want to hear from cd, not the on duty troll ![]()
DiscoD69, your request ceases to be reasonable when you call a poster names, quote yourself and use SCREAM type ..... then expect an answer ........ROLF.
Slim ![]()
did you read post 133? did I 'scream' it then? Maybe I just made the size larger so they didn't 'miss' the point again...which they still have...
and where you you possibly get the idea that I would want to hear anything from esplanade, when all he's ever provided covers to date, is verbal diarrhea?
get real. I want to hear from cd, not the on duty troll ![]()
Disco, i dont give a shit if you believe its in the bill or not. I know its in the bill and its going to affect me and my family. This bill has nothing to do with you, so if you dont believe what i say, go read the damn bill.
Disco, i dont give a shit if you believe its in the bill or not. I know its in the bill and its going to affect me and my family. This bill has nothing to do with you, so if you dont believe what i say, go read the damn bill.
Disco, i dont give a shit if you believe its in the bill or not. I know its in the bill and its going to affect me and my family. This bill has nothing to do with you, so if you dont believe what i say, go read the damn bill.
So is this you telling me that you don't know where you got that info from? That you don't know for a fact if this bill contains what you said or not?
Look cd, I understand your concerns to an extent, but the reality is if you don't know if this is in the bill or not, then I can't feel sorry for you.
If this were in the bill then I agree that might be something to worry about. Just like if a serial killer was hiding in your closet. Well they're not so you have nothing to worry about.
Just like what you're claiming isn't in the bill, so you have nothing to worry about.
Unless you can prove, or show me where in the bill it says what you're claiming, it's just the typical republican scare tactic bullshit falacy. Same as the 'death panels' etc. It's all a bunch of BULLSHIT right wing propaganda - unless you can prove it otherwise.
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Feel free to point to where in the bill you have interpreted this, since your lack of citation has proven what your wrote isn't the exact language, and I will check for myself and can give you my oppinions on what I think it means.
Until then, I can't begin to take what you're saying as the least bit true.
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Disco, i dont give a shit if you believe its in the bill or not. I know its in the bill and its going to affect me and my family. This bill has nothing to do with you, so if you dont believe what i say, go read the damn bill.
So is this you telling me that you don't know where you got that info from? That you don't know for a fact if this bill contains what you said or not?
Look cd, I understand your concerns to an extent, but the reality is if you don't know if this is in the bill or not, then I can't feel sorry for you.
If this were in the bill then I agree that might be something to worry about. Just like if a serial killer was hiding in your closet. Well they're not so you have nothing to worry about.
Just like what you're claiming isn't in the bill, so you have nothing to worry about.
Unless you can prove, or show me where in the bill it says what you're claiming, it's just the typical republican scare tactic bullshit falacy. Same as the 'death panels' etc. It's all a bunch of BULLSHIT right wing propaganda - unless you can prove it otherwise.
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Feel free to point to where in the bill you have interpreted this, since your lack of citation has proven what your wrote isn't the exact language, and I will check for myself and can give you my oppinions on what I think it means.
Until then, I can't begin to take what you're saying as the least bit true.
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Want a CT scan in Canada? Private veterinary clinics said they can get a dog in the next day. For people, the waiting list is a month. ....Canadian Dr. Terri Schiller.
Thousands of surgeries may be cut in Metro Vancouver due to government underfunding.Vancouver patients needing neurosurgery, treatment for vascular diseases and other medically necessary procedures can expect to wait longer for care, NDP health critic Adrian Dix said Monday.
Dix said a Vancouver Coastal Health Authority document shows it is considering chopping more than 6,000 surgeries in an effort to make up for a dramatic budgetary shortfall that could reach $200 million.
I see why DiscoD69 want's to know all about America's Healthcare Bill ..because he want's to know what kind of care he will get when he comes acrosss the border for medical help.....
Want a CT scan in Canada? Private veterinary clinics said they can get a dog in the next day. For people, the waiting list is a month. ....Canadian Dr. Terri Schiller.
Thousands of surgeries may be cut in Metro Vancouver due to government underfunding.Vancouver patients needing neurosurgery, treatment for vascular diseases and other medically necessary procedures can expect to wait longer for care, NDP health critic Adrian Dix said Monday.
Dix said a Vancouver Coastal Health Authority document shows it is considering chopping more than 6,000 surgeries in an effort to make up for a dramatic budgetary shortfall that could reach $200 million.
I see why DiscoD69 want's to know all about America's Healthcare Bill ..because he want's to know what kind of care he will get when he comes acrosss the border for medical help.....

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