I've never seen one comment, argument, or quote from you that I couldn't get from googling "right wing rhetoric."
I'm certainly hoping you aren't referring to anything regarding your 'minimum wage increases are responsible for price increases' thread which fellow lean right posters Rooster and Be Easy (both of whom actually have intelligent minds of their own and use them as such)blew you out of the water, among others.
You know exactly what I'm talking about. When I had to spend an hour defending my statement because you failed to read 6 words into my opening statement....ok you may have read that far into it but you didn't comprehend that far into it.
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
Self professed victories.
I've never seen one comment, argument, or quote from you that I couldn't get from googling "right wing rhetoric."
I'm certainly hoping you aren't referring to anything regarding your 'minimum wage increases are responsible for price increases' thread which fellow lean right posters Rooster and Be Easy (both of whom actually have intelligent minds of their own and use them as such)blew you out of the water, among others.
You know exactly what I'm talking about. When I had to spend an hour defending my statement because you failed to read 6 words into my opening statement....ok you may have read that far into it but you didn't comprehend that far into it.
You know exactly what I'm talking about. When I had to spend an hour defending my statement because you failed to read 6 words into my opening statement....ok you may have read that far into it but you didn't comprehend that far into it.
Notice why you didn't respond to my post #25. Do you know why that is?
I imagine you probably need some time to get your email response from right wing propoganda before answering.
I look forward to their response when you cut and paste it.
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Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
You know exactly what I'm talking about. When I had to spend an hour defending my statement because you failed to read 6 words into my opening statement....ok you may have read that far into it but you didn't comprehend that far into it.
Notice why you didn't respond to my post #25. Do you know why that is?
I imagine you probably need some time to get your email response from right wing propoganda before answering.
I look forward to their response when you cut and paste it.
DJ I cant force you to see anything I write as anything other than what your brain tells you. Why would I try otherwise. Lets see you fill in for don juan and counter my arguements with him.
He seems to have no answers.
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DJ I cant force you to see anything I write as anything other than what your brain tells you. Why would I try otherwise. Lets see you fill in for don juan and counter my arguements with him.
DJ I cant force you to see anything I write as anything other than what your brain tells you. Why would I try otherwise. Lets see you fill in for don juan and counter my arguements with him.
He seems to have no answers.
Hmmm...let's make this as non-partisan as possible.
George Bush nor Obama had anything to do with the increases in cost of gas, except to the extent that war caused a limitation on production in certain areas.
The central cause of inflation is the devaluation is the dollar caused by the non-partisan overprinting of money.
I'm interested to see how you spin this as being the cause of the Dems over the objection of your right wingers.
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Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
DJ I cant force you to see anything I write as anything other than what your brain tells you. Why would I try otherwise. Lets see you fill in for don juan and counter my arguements with him.
He seems to have no answers.
Hmmm...let's make this as non-partisan as possible.
George Bush nor Obama had anything to do with the increases in cost of gas, except to the extent that war caused a limitation on production in certain areas.
The central cause of inflation is the devaluation is the dollar caused by the non-partisan overprinting of money.
I'm interested to see how you spin this as being the cause of the Dems over the objection of your right wingers.
All of don juans post in this thread show that he is not part of the we that do get it. Wants to blame the whole recession on GOP policies. Livin in some fantasy world that and somehow go silent when facts tell the opposite story than what he believes.
What are you even talking about?
I think it is time you wake up from your talking points fantasy world... This is smelling like it is your turn to have another melt down on this site...
explain to me how I blamed anyone on this thread?
Waiting for your arguement to counter these facts.
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Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
All of don juans post in this thread show that he is not part of the we that do get it. Wants to blame the whole recession on GOP policies. Livin in some fantasy world that and somehow go silent when facts tell the opposite story than what he believes.
What are you even talking about?
I think it is time you wake up from your talking points fantasy world... This is smelling like it is your turn to have another melt down on this site...
explain to me how I blamed anyone on this thread?
Waiting for your arguement to counter these facts.
I think it is time you wake up from your talking points fantasy world... This is smelling like it is your turn to have another melt down on this site...
explain to me how I blamed anyone on this thread?
Waiting for your arguement to counter these facts.
OH so you are now admitting that your alias is Don Juan now? After all the crap you give other people you believe are aliases?
Did you forget which name you are logged in on?
I looked again....and I'm doubly sure that it says Don Juan and not DL36...
BUSTED!!!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
What are you even talking about?
I think it is time you wake up from your talking points fantasy world... This is smelling like it is your turn to have another melt down on this site...
explain to me how I blamed anyone on this thread?
Waiting for your arguement to counter these facts.
OH so you are now admitting that your alias is Don Juan now? After all the crap you give other people you believe are aliases?
Did you forget which name you are logged in on?
I looked again....and I'm doubly sure that it says Don Juan and not DL36...
<<If lowering taxes on the wealthy for 12 years didn't work, and no taxes to pay for 2 wars didn't work, causing the "great resession".. What in the samhill makes you think current taxes or further reductions will suceed?>>
DL36...this is what your alias posted earlier (#5) that spawned my whole point on this thread.
A. Do any of you ever read every post in a thread before you come up with the ignorant responses?
B. Up to this point you have done a good job of logging in under the right aliases to answer. What happened this time?
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<<If lowering taxes on the wealthy for 12 years didn't work, and no taxes to pay for 2 wars didn't work, causing the "great resession".. What in the samhill makes you think current taxes or further reductions will suceed?>>
DL36...this is what your alias posted earlier (#5) that spawned my whole point on this thread.
A. Do any of you ever read every post in a thread before you come up with the ignorant responses?
B. Up to this point you have done a good job of logging in under the right aliases to answer. What happened this time?
Hmmm...let's make this as non-partisan as possible.
George Bush nor Obama had anything to do with the increases in cost of gas, except to the extent that war caused a limitation on production in certain areas.
The central cause of inflation is the devaluation is the dollar caused by the non-partisan overprinting of money.
I'm interested to see how you spin this as being the cause of the Dems over the objection of your right wingers.
while that may sound nice, facts don't seem to agree with you
Over the last four years, we have witnessed printing on a scale never before imagined, but where is the inflation?
conversely, we had rampant inflation from mid 90's - mid 00's, but where was the printing?
me thinks it's time to go back to the drawing board
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
Hmmm...let's make this as non-partisan as possible.
George Bush nor Obama had anything to do with the increases in cost of gas, except to the extent that war caused a limitation on production in certain areas.
The central cause of inflation is the devaluation is the dollar caused by the non-partisan overprinting of money.
I'm interested to see how you spin this as being the cause of the Dems over the objection of your right wingers.
while that may sound nice, facts don't seem to agree with you
Over the last four years, we have witnessed printing on a scale never before imagined, but where is the inflation?
conversely, we had rampant inflation from mid 90's - mid 00's, but where was the printing?
me thinks it's time to go back to the drawing board
You lost me when you conflated fairness and income taxes in the same post
There is nothing fair about paying any amount of income tax
0% income tax rates across the board is as fair as it get's
SO how should the government fund itself? Did not our founding fathers outline the American way of government funding? In order to keep things fair and not disincentivize economic activity, like the income tax does?
TRY AGAIN
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You lost me when you conflated fairness and income taxes in the same post
There is nothing fair about paying any amount of income tax
0% income tax rates across the board is as fair as it get's
SO how should the government fund itself? Did not our founding fathers outline the American way of government funding? In order to keep things fair and not disincentivize economic activity, like the income tax does?
while that may sound nice, facts don't seem to agree with you
Over the last four years, we have witnessed printing on a scale never before imagined, but where is the inflation?
conversely, we had rampant inflation from mid 90's - mid 00's, but where was the printing?
me thinks it's time to go back to the drawing board
As I recall, you were ini agreement with Palin a few months ago when the price of milk, etc were linked to QE, no?
But you did point out that my comment should have said often caused because you are right, inflation has existed many times when the cause had little or nothing to do with the devaluation of the dollar.
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Quote Originally Posted by be easy:
while that may sound nice, facts don't seem to agree with you
Over the last four years, we have witnessed printing on a scale never before imagined, but where is the inflation?
conversely, we had rampant inflation from mid 90's - mid 00's, but where was the printing?
me thinks it's time to go back to the drawing board
As I recall, you were ini agreement with Palin a few months ago when the price of milk, etc were linked to QE, no?
But you did point out that my comment should have said often caused because you are right, inflation has existed many times when the cause had little or nothing to do with the devaluation of the dollar.
As I recall, you were ini agreement with Palin a few months ago when the price of milk, etc were linked to QE, no?
But you did point out that my comment should have said often caused because you are right, inflation has existed many times when the cause had little or nothing to do with the devaluation of the dollar.
mid 90s money went to fund dot.coms. last 3-4 years money has gone into commodities,,,which is super odd because demand has been destroyed for all energy types and there is much much less economic activity to the point were there were refineries in the south that have shut recently
150 bbl/oil in summer of 08; 100 today yet the average price per gallon of gas today has never been higher when priced in Federal Reserve Notes
its an amazing dichotomy whereby demand is collapsing yet prices have skyrocketed
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
As I recall, you were ini agreement with Palin a few months ago when the price of milk, etc were linked to QE, no?
But you did point out that my comment should have said often caused because you are right, inflation has existed many times when the cause had little or nothing to do with the devaluation of the dollar.
mid 90s money went to fund dot.coms. last 3-4 years money has gone into commodities,,,which is super odd because demand has been destroyed for all energy types and there is much much less economic activity to the point were there were refineries in the south that have shut recently
150 bbl/oil in summer of 08; 100 today yet the average price per gallon of gas today has never been higher when priced in Federal Reserve Notes
its an amazing dichotomy whereby demand is collapsing yet prices have skyrocketed
mid 90s money went to fund dot.coms. last 3-4 years money has gone into commodities,,,which is super odd because demand has been destroyed for all energy types and there is much much less economic activity to the point were there were refineries in the south that have shut recently
150 bbl/oil in summer of 08; 100 today yet the average price per gallon of gas today has never been higher when priced in Federal Reserve Notes
its an amazing dichotomy whereby demand is collapsing yet prices have skyrocketed
No idea where you would get the idea that demand for energy has been destroyed. However....
if you are suggesting that Palin was right and QE is responsible, than post 36 would be incorrect, no?
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Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:
mid 90s money went to fund dot.coms. last 3-4 years money has gone into commodities,,,which is super odd because demand has been destroyed for all energy types and there is much much less economic activity to the point were there were refineries in the south that have shut recently
150 bbl/oil in summer of 08; 100 today yet the average price per gallon of gas today has never been higher when priced in Federal Reserve Notes
its an amazing dichotomy whereby demand is collapsing yet prices have skyrocketed
No idea where you would get the idea that demand for energy has been destroyed. However....
if you are suggesting that Palin was right and QE is responsible, than post 36 would be incorrect, no?
Hmmm...let's make this as non-partisan as possible.
George Bush nor Obama had anything to do with the increases in cost of gas, except to the extent that war caused a limitation on production in certain areas.
The central cause of inflation is the devaluation is the dollar caused by the non-partisan overprinting of money.
I'm interested to see how you spin this as being the cause of the Dems over the objection of your right wingers.
i guess you conveniently ignore when obamas monetary policy "printed" $2T+ to monetize debt. remind me again when bush did this?
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
Hmmm...let's make this as non-partisan as possible.
George Bush nor Obama had anything to do with the increases in cost of gas, except to the extent that war caused a limitation on production in certain areas.
The central cause of inflation is the devaluation is the dollar caused by the non-partisan overprinting of money.
I'm interested to see how you spin this as being the cause of the Dems over the objection of your right wingers.
i guess you conveniently ignore when obamas monetary policy "printed" $2T+ to monetize debt. remind me again when bush did this?
Refresh my memory..which president brought back the 30 yr treasury when it was previously retired?
Are you suggesting Bush ran a balanced budget and did not dramatically explode our deficit?
shocker, another post by wallstreet where he does not address the point and instead spins and deflects.
your bedfellow djbrow made the assertion "The central cause of inflation is the devaluation is the dollar caused by the non-partisan overprinting of money."
i countered with obama "printed" over $2T, and was wondering when bush "printed" vast sums of money. if bush didnt, that would invalidate djbrows claim of nonpartisanship, if bush did, that would prove his claim.
i know its hard when you dont have facts to back argue back with, but please try sticking on point.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
Refresh my memory..which president brought back the 30 yr treasury when it was previously retired?
Are you suggesting Bush ran a balanced budget and did not dramatically explode our deficit?
shocker, another post by wallstreet where he does not address the point and instead spins and deflects.
your bedfellow djbrow made the assertion "The central cause of inflation is the devaluation is the dollar caused by the non-partisan overprinting of money."
i countered with obama "printed" over $2T, and was wondering when bush "printed" vast sums of money. if bush didnt, that would invalidate djbrows claim of nonpartisanship, if bush did, that would prove his claim.
i know its hard when you dont have facts to back argue back with, but please try sticking on point.
i guess you conveniently ignore when obamas monetary policy "printed" $2T+ to monetize debt. remind me again when bush did this?
SteveShane:
Speaking of facts to back up a claim(something you don't do), please link one post where I said Obama's policy didn't devalue the dollar?
And Bush did too.
Do you understand that the 'overprinting' doesn't immediately cause inflation? Rather it is a causal connection that takes time. Do you understand why that would be?
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Quote Originally Posted by jinvegas:
i guess you conveniently ignore when obamas monetary policy "printed" $2T+ to monetize debt. remind me again when bush did this?
SteveShane:
Speaking of facts to back up a claim(something you don't do), please link one post where I said Obama's policy didn't devalue the dollar?
And Bush did too.
Do you understand that the 'overprinting' doesn't immediately cause inflation? Rather it is a causal connection that takes time. Do you understand why that would be?
Speaking of facts to back up a claim(something you don't do), please link one post where I said Obama's policy didn't devalue the dollar?
And Bush did too.
Do you understand that the 'overprinting' doesn't immediately cause inflation? Rather it is a causal connection that takes time. Do you understand why that would be?
its amazing what CPI will tell you when it excludes commodity and food prices. no political reasons there.
yes or no, did you say the phrase "over printing of money"? yes or no, did obama "print" over $2T of money? yes or no, did bush "print" an inordinate amount of money?
since i know you dont like to directly answer questions, ill give you a cheat sheet
YES YES NO
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
SteveShane:
Speaking of facts to back up a claim(something you don't do), please link one post where I said Obama's policy didn't devalue the dollar?
And Bush did too.
Do you understand that the 'overprinting' doesn't immediately cause inflation? Rather it is a causal connection that takes time. Do you understand why that would be?
its amazing what CPI will tell you when it excludes commodity and food prices. no political reasons there.
yes or no, did you say the phrase "over printing of money"? yes or no, did obama "print" over $2T of money? yes or no, did bush "print" an inordinate amount of money?
since i know you dont like to directly answer questions, ill give you a cheat sheet
Speaking of facts to back up a claim(something you don't do), please link one post where I said Obama's policy didn't devalue the dollar?
And Bush did too.
Do you understand that the 'overprinting' doesn't immediately cause inflation? Rather it is a causal connection that takes time. Do you understand why that would be?
That is quite true..we have discussed that point several times in this forum. Some still think that the FED printing equates to general inflation because that is what happened in the past.
Nothing could be further from the truth..the FED can print all day long, if money is not circulated AND if it does not stimulate demand, then inflation does not and cannot occur, especially in a general sense.
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:
SteveShane:
Speaking of facts to back up a claim(something you don't do), please link one post where I said Obama's policy didn't devalue the dollar?
And Bush did too.
Do you understand that the 'overprinting' doesn't immediately cause inflation? Rather it is a causal connection that takes time. Do you understand why that would be?
That is quite true..we have discussed that point several times in this forum. Some still think that the FED printing equates to general inflation because that is what happened in the past.
Nothing could be further from the truth..the FED can print all day long, if money is not circulated AND if it does not stimulate demand, then inflation does not and cannot occur, especially in a general sense.
its amazing what CPI will tell you when it excludes commodity and food prices. no political reasons there.
yes or no, did you say the phrase "over printing of money"? yes or no, did obama "print" over $2T of money? yes or no, did bush "print" an inordinate amount of money?
since i know you dont like to directly answer questions, ill give you a cheat sheet
YES YES NO
Thanks for the cheat sheet.
No doubt, you didn't think Bush printed an 'inordinate' amount of money. That is what the right wingers tell you to think.
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Quote Originally Posted by jinvegas:
its amazing what CPI will tell you when it excludes commodity and food prices. no political reasons there.
yes or no, did you say the phrase "over printing of money"? yes or no, did obama "print" over $2T of money? yes or no, did bush "print" an inordinate amount of money?
since i know you dont like to directly answer questions, ill give you a cheat sheet
YES YES NO
Thanks for the cheat sheet.
No doubt, you didn't think Bush printed an 'inordinate' amount of money. That is what the right wingers tell you to think.
That is quite true..we have discussed that point several times in this forum. Some still think that the FED printing equates to general inflation because that is what happened in the past.
Nothing could be further from the truth..the FED can print all day long, if money is not circulated AND if it does not stimulate demand, then inflation does not and cannot occur, especially in a general sense.
Exactly.
It only matters if the money becomes part of circulation. Seems like an obvious thing but....
Also funny when certain people don't think this has been done essentially by every President of recent years.
Although it does bring up an interesting tidbit...being what the effect would be if a government made obligations, yet printed less money, leaving it to the next President to be responsible for those obligations. Hmmmm, what would happen then..
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
That is quite true..we have discussed that point several times in this forum. Some still think that the FED printing equates to general inflation because that is what happened in the past.
Nothing could be further from the truth..the FED can print all day long, if money is not circulated AND if it does not stimulate demand, then inflation does not and cannot occur, especially in a general sense.
Exactly.
It only matters if the money becomes part of circulation. Seems like an obvious thing but....
Also funny when certain people don't think this has been done essentially by every President of recent years.
Although it does bring up an interesting tidbit...being what the effect would be if a government made obligations, yet printed less money, leaving it to the next President to be responsible for those obligations. Hmmmm, what would happen then..
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