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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2023 - 6:51 PM ET #4526

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    WHY DID THE WHITEHOUSE GO ON AN ALLOUT "PANDEMIC OF THE UNVACCINATED" IN LATE JULY OF 2021? WHY SAY GET VACCINATED YOU WON'T DIE, GO TO THE HOSPITAL OR EVEN GET COVID IF EXPERTS WERE WARNING IN FEBRUARY THE VARIENTS COULD EVADE THE VACCINE.

    In 2021, vast majority of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated people.  Government job is to urge as many people get vaccinated as possible.  Although most of Biden statements about vaccines are reasonably accurate, he sometimes overstates efficacy of vaccines because of impressive results from clinical trials.  Although less effective against infection, vaccines still help to prevent severe illness.  Center for disease control say that while vaccines work well in reducing risks of infection, hospitalization and death, no vaccine is 100% effective and immunity naturally wanes over time.  So important to stay up-to-date on boosters which is still the best protection against severe illness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    WHY DID THE WHITEHOUSE GO ON AN ALLOUT "PANDEMIC OF THE UNVACCINATED" IN LATE JULY OF 2021? WHY SAY GET VACCINATED YOU WON'T DIE, GO TO THE HOSPITAL OR EVEN GET COVID IF EXPERTS WERE WARNING IN FEBRUARY THE VARIENTS COULD EVADE THE VACCINE.

    In 2021, vast majority of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated people.  Government job is to urge as many people get vaccinated as possible.  Although most of Biden statements about vaccines are reasonably accurate, he sometimes overstates efficacy of vaccines because of impressive results from clinical trials.  Although less effective against infection, vaccines still help to prevent severe illness.  Center for disease control say that while vaccines work well in reducing risks of infection, hospitalization and death, no vaccine is 100% effective and immunity naturally wanes over time.  So important to stay up-to-date on boosters which is still the best protection against severe illness.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2023 - 8:41 PM ET #4527

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: WHY DID THE WHITEHOUSE GO ON AN ALLOUT "PANDEMIC OF THE UNVACCINATED" IN LATE JULY OF 2021? WHY SAY GET VACCINATED YOU WON'T DIE, GO TO THE HOSPITAL OR EVEN GET COVID IF EXPERTS WERE WARNING IN FEBRUARY THE VARIENTS COULD EVADE THE VACCINE. In 2021, vast majority of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated people.  Government job is to urge as many people get vaccinated as possible.  Although most of Biden statements about vaccines are reasonably accurate, he sometimes overstates efficacy of vaccines because of impressive results from clinical trials.  Although less effective against infection, vaccines still help to prevent severe illness.  Center for disease control say that while vaccines work well in reducing risks of infection, hospitalization and death, no vaccine is 100% effective and immunity naturally wanes over time.  So important to stay up-to-date on boosters which is still the best protection against severe illness.

    No Third, I am afraid not.

    In 2021, vast majority of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated people. 

    Vast majority a vague term. Do you have the numbers to prove it?  Over150,000 died in 2001 before vaccines were available to most. By late July Minnesota, one of only a few states to report vaxed vs unvaxed, shows 28% of deaths the vaccinated and they were less than 50% vaccinated at the time. And my question was from late July on, not ALL of 2021. an_light

    Government job is to urge as many people get vaccinated as possible. No I don't think so. Government's job is to serve the people using all available science and be honest. In this case ALL of the current scientific data at that time showed vaccine effectiveness waning with new variants just like experts and CDC Director warned about months earlier. Yet they drove home a campaign of pandemic of the unvaccinated that may have been true with the original covid but not the variant Delta that was now dominating.

    Although most of Biden statements about vaccines are reasonably accurate, he sometimes overstates efficacy of vaccines because of impressive results from clinical trials. 

    The experts and the CDC director warned that variants would cause us to lose all we gained and were a danger months earlier yet when the variant hits suddenly the vaccine is said to be 96% effective against Delta which it was not. It wasn't just Joe, Europa linked an article to an interview of Scott Gottlieb on July 18, 2021. 

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: WHY DID THE WHITEHOUSE GO ON AN ALLOUT "PANDEMIC OF THE UNVACCINATED" IN LATE JULY OF 2021? WHY SAY GET VACCINATED YOU WON'T DIE, GO TO THE HOSPITAL OR EVEN GET COVID IF EXPERTS WERE WARNING IN FEBRUARY THE VARIENTS COULD EVADE THE VACCINE. In 2021, vast majority of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated people.  Government job is to urge as many people get vaccinated as possible.  Although most of Biden statements about vaccines are reasonably accurate, he sometimes overstates efficacy of vaccines because of impressive results from clinical trials.  Although less effective against infection, vaccines still help to prevent severe illness.  Center for disease control say that while vaccines work well in reducing risks of infection, hospitalization and death, no vaccine is 100% effective and immunity naturally wanes over time.  So important to stay up-to-date on boosters which is still the best protection against severe illness.

    No Third, I am afraid not.

    In 2021, vast majority of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated people. 

    Vast majority a vague term. Do you have the numbers to prove it?  Over150,000 died in 2001 before vaccines were available to most. By late July Minnesota, one of only a few states to report vaxed vs unvaxed, shows 28% of deaths the vaccinated and they were less than 50% vaccinated at the time. And my question was from late July on, not ALL of 2021. an_light

    Government job is to urge as many people get vaccinated as possible. No I don't think so. Government's job is to serve the people using all available science and be honest. In this case ALL of the current scientific data at that time showed vaccine effectiveness waning with new variants just like experts and CDC Director warned about months earlier. Yet they drove home a campaign of pandemic of the unvaccinated that may have been true with the original covid but not the variant Delta that was now dominating.

    Although most of Biden statements about vaccines are reasonably accurate, he sometimes overstates efficacy of vaccines because of impressive results from clinical trials. 

    The experts and the CDC director warned that variants would cause us to lose all we gained and were a danger months earlier yet when the variant hits suddenly the vaccine is said to be 96% effective against Delta which it was not. It wasn't just Joe, Europa linked an article to an interview of Scott Gottlieb on July 18, 2021. 

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2023 - 8:41 PM ET #4528

    DR. GOTTLIEB: We'll look when you look at the people who have been hospitalized, 97% of the hospitalizations are in people who are unvaccinated and most of the deaths that are occurring right now are and people who are unvaccinated. The bottom line is that many people are no longer susceptible to COVID more than 50%, about 50% of the population has been fully vaccinated. 

    The statement of 97% is not true UNLESS you go back to Jan 1. But at that time things just changed, Delta now here, UK TOLD us what Delta can do to the vaccinated. 50% of people, those vaccinated, are no longer susceptible is also a false statement. Numbers were showing more and more vaccinated getting infected, hospitalized, and even dying. The fact that Gottlieb was on the board of directors at Pfizer not a conflict of interest?? Do ya think?? an_eek2

    So important to stay up-to-date on boosters which is still the best protection against severe illness.

    Yes, IF you are one with age or comorbidities that makes you high risk, otherwise not so important. an_light

     

     

     

     

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    DR. GOTTLIEB: We'll look when you look at the people who have been hospitalized, 97% of the hospitalizations are in people who are unvaccinated and most of the deaths that are occurring right now are and people who are unvaccinated. The bottom line is that many people are no longer susceptible to COVID more than 50%, about 50% of the population has been fully vaccinated. 

    The statement of 97% is not true UNLESS you go back to Jan 1. But at that time things just changed, Delta now here, UK TOLD us what Delta can do to the vaccinated. 50% of people, those vaccinated, are no longer susceptible is also a false statement. Numbers were showing more and more vaccinated getting infected, hospitalized, and even dying. The fact that Gottlieb was on the board of directors at Pfizer not a conflict of interest?? Do ya think?? an_eek2

    So important to stay up-to-date on boosters which is still the best protection against severe illness.

    Yes, IF you are one with age or comorbidities that makes you high risk, otherwise not so important. an_light

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2023 - 8:50 PM ET #4529

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: WHY DID THE WHITEHOUSE GO ON AN ALLOUT "PANDEMIC OF THE UNVACCINATED" IN LATE JULY OF 2021? WHY SAY GET VACCINATED YOU WON'T DIE, GO TO THE HOSPITAL OR EVEN GET COVID IF EXPERTS WERE WARNING IN FEBRUARY THE VARIENTS COULD EVADE THE VACCINE. In 2021, vast majority of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated people.  Government job is to urge as many people get vaccinated as possible.  Although most of Biden statements about vaccines are reasonably accurate, he sometimes overstates efficacy of vaccines because of impressive results from clinical trials.  Although less effective against infection, vaccines still help to prevent severe illness.  Center for disease control say that while vaccines work well in reducing risks of infection, hospitalization and death, no vaccine is 100% effective and immunity naturally wanes over time.  So important to stay up-to-date on boosters which is still the best protection against severe illness.

     

    True.    Thanks Thirdperson.  peace_5

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: WHY DID THE WHITEHOUSE GO ON AN ALLOUT "PANDEMIC OF THE UNVACCINATED" IN LATE JULY OF 2021? WHY SAY GET VACCINATED YOU WON'T DIE, GO TO THE HOSPITAL OR EVEN GET COVID IF EXPERTS WERE WARNING IN FEBRUARY THE VARIENTS COULD EVADE THE VACCINE. In 2021, vast majority of covid deaths and hospitalizations occur among unvaccinated people.  Government job is to urge as many people get vaccinated as possible.  Although most of Biden statements about vaccines are reasonably accurate, he sometimes overstates efficacy of vaccines because of impressive results from clinical trials.  Although less effective against infection, vaccines still help to prevent severe illness.  Center for disease control say that while vaccines work well in reducing risks of infection, hospitalization and death, no vaccine is 100% effective and immunity naturally wanes over time.  So important to stay up-to-date on boosters which is still the best protection against severe illness.

     

    True.    Thanks Thirdperson.  peace_5

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2023 - 1:32 AM ET #4530

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    WHY WASN'T ANYTHING DONE TO PREVENT OVERSEA VARIANTS FROM ENTERING OUR COUNTRY???  WAS THE OPEN SOUTHERN BORDER A GOOD IDEA?

    Many countries try travel restrictions but that didn't stop the pandemic.  History shows little evidence that travel bans work except to temporarily delay virus spread by a few days according to World health organization and John Hopkins university.  US south border is not open but secured by thousands of officers and extensive barriers.  Only a minority of migrants are allowed to enter the US.  Vast majority of infections are via local community transmissions rather than from Mexico migrants who are just a drop in population bucket.  Other countries should be more afraid of travellers from the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    WHY WASN'T ANYTHING DONE TO PREVENT OVERSEA VARIANTS FROM ENTERING OUR COUNTRY???  WAS THE OPEN SOUTHERN BORDER A GOOD IDEA?

    Many countries try travel restrictions but that didn't stop the pandemic.  History shows little evidence that travel bans work except to temporarily delay virus spread by a few days according to World health organization and John Hopkins university.  US south border is not open but secured by thousands of officers and extensive barriers.  Only a minority of migrants are allowed to enter the US.  Vast majority of infections are via local community transmissions rather than from Mexico migrants who are just a drop in population bucket.  Other countries should be more afraid of travellers from the US.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2023 - 4:22 AM ET #4531

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: WHY WASN'T ANYTHING DONE TO PREVENT OVERSEA VARIANTS FROM ENTERING OUR COUNTRY???  WAS THE OPEN SOUTHERN BORDER A GOOD IDEA? Many countries try travel restrictions but that didn't stop the pandemic.  History shows little evidence that travel bans work except to temporarily delay virus spread by a few days according to World health organization and John Hopkins university.  US south border is not open but secured by thousands of officers and extensive barriers.  Only a minority of migrants are allowed to enter the US.  Vast majority of infections are via local community transmissions rather than from Mexico migrants who are just a drop in population bucket.  Other countries should be more afraid of travellers from the US.

    Extensive barriers? an_roll_laugh"Arizona, tear down those cargo containers."

    Oh, so Canada closing its border more 16 months didn't work and had little effect. Both variants Lambda and Delta were first detected in the U.S. in the border state of Texas. Coincidence?

    Over 5 million people are KNOWN to have crossed our border in the last two years from all over the globe and estimates are at least a million went undetected. Over a million allowed to stay, maybe two. None were required to be vaccinated. Side note;  And since August 22,000 lbs of fentanyl seized, enough to kill, not 1000, but 4.5 billion people. 

    Why fear traveller's from the US when the dominate variants all came and dominated first in oversea countries? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: WHY WASN'T ANYTHING DONE TO PREVENT OVERSEA VARIANTS FROM ENTERING OUR COUNTRY???  WAS THE OPEN SOUTHERN BORDER A GOOD IDEA? Many countries try travel restrictions but that didn't stop the pandemic.  History shows little evidence that travel bans work except to temporarily delay virus spread by a few days according to World health organization and John Hopkins university.  US south border is not open but secured by thousands of officers and extensive barriers.  Only a minority of migrants are allowed to enter the US.  Vast majority of infections are via local community transmissions rather than from Mexico migrants who are just a drop in population bucket.  Other countries should be more afraid of travellers from the US.

    Extensive barriers? an_roll_laugh"Arizona, tear down those cargo containers."

    Oh, so Canada closing its border more 16 months didn't work and had little effect. Both variants Lambda and Delta were first detected in the U.S. in the border state of Texas. Coincidence?

    Over 5 million people are KNOWN to have crossed our border in the last two years from all over the globe and estimates are at least a million went undetected. Over a million allowed to stay, maybe two. None were required to be vaccinated. Side note;  And since August 22,000 lbs of fentanyl seized, enough to kill, not 1000, but 4.5 billion people. 

    Why fear traveller's from the US when the dominate variants all came and dominated first in oversea countries? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2023 - 5:08 PM ET #4533

    Young and fit female soldier removed from active duty after being forced by our cowardly and woke Secretary of Defense to take the vaccine or be sent home with a less than honorable discharge. Her sad story is inside the link below. She will be on blood thinners the rest of her life! Did she deserve this?

    Telegram: Contact @mrn_death

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    Young and fit female soldier removed from active duty after being forced by our cowardly and woke Secretary of Defense to take the vaccine or be sent home with a less than honorable discharge. Her sad story is inside the link below. She will be on blood thinners the rest of her life! Did she deserve this?

    Telegram: Contact @mrn_death

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2023 - 1:39 PM ET #4534

    SATIRE;

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — President Joe Biden has called on Americans to refrain from cooking with gas stoves for the next two weeks to help "flatten the curve".

    "It's real simple, folks," said President Biden. "These gas stoves have brought upon us a terrible pandemic of asthma, brain damage, and scurvy! Now folks, I still believe in America. I believe we can beat these stoves! And it starts with us coming together to flatten the curve of, you know, the thing! For just two weeks, America! Not a joke!"

    In addition to the two week ban on gas stoves, the Biden administration has also recommended social distancing from gas stoves for the foreseeable future. "After the two weeks, if you must cook on a gas stove, we recommend doing so from a safe distance of six feet," said Surgeon General Vivek Murthy. "We advise all kitchens be marked six feet from the gas stove,

    https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-calls-for-two-weeks-of-not-cooking-on-gas-stoves-to-flatten-the-curve/

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    SATIRE;

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — President Joe Biden has called on Americans to refrain from cooking with gas stoves for the next two weeks to help "flatten the curve".

    "It's real simple, folks," said President Biden. "These gas stoves have brought upon us a terrible pandemic of asthma, brain damage, and scurvy! Now folks, I still believe in America. I believe we can beat these stoves! And it starts with us coming together to flatten the curve of, you know, the thing! For just two weeks, America! Not a joke!"

    In addition to the two week ban on gas stoves, the Biden administration has also recommended social distancing from gas stoves for the foreseeable future. "After the two weeks, if you must cook on a gas stove, we recommend doing so from a safe distance of six feet," said Surgeon General Vivek Murthy. "We advise all kitchens be marked six feet from the gas stove,

    https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-calls-for-two-weeks-of-not-cooking-on-gas-stoves-to-flatten-the-curve/

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    So Trump said in 2020 that COVID deaths were overcounted.

    That followed with a barage of;

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/21/instagram-posts/covid-19-death-toll-has-not-been-overcounted/

    https://khn.org/news/how-covid-death-counts-become-the-stuff-of-conspiracy-theories/

    Now, two and one-half years later we get this from Dr Wen, CNN medical analyst and Washington Post columnist ;

    "We are overcounting COVID deaths and hospitalizations. That’s a problem." 

    Wen, who writes an occasional Washington Post column providing her observations on the pandemic, masking and other COVID-related subjects, cited sources claiming that most "patients diagnosed with COVID are actually in the hospital for some other illness."

    She spoke to two Infectious-disease experts, who told her they believed "the number of deaths attributed to COVID is far greater than the actual number of people dying from COVID."

    Wen also cited infectious-disease physician Shira Doron, who figured out that "In recent months, only about 30 percent of total hospitalizations with COVID were primarily attributed to the virus" in Massachusetts hospitals for example. 

    DONALD TRUMP RIGHT AGAIN

     

     

     

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    So Trump said in 2020 that COVID deaths were overcounted.

    That followed with a barage of;

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/21/instagram-posts/covid-19-death-toll-has-not-been-overcounted/

    https://khn.org/news/how-covid-death-counts-become-the-stuff-of-conspiracy-theories/

    Now, two and one-half years later we get this from Dr Wen, CNN medical analyst and Washington Post columnist ;

    "We are overcounting COVID deaths and hospitalizations. That’s a problem." 

    Wen, who writes an occasional Washington Post column providing her observations on the pandemic, masking and other COVID-related subjects, cited sources claiming that most "patients diagnosed with COVID are actually in the hospital for some other illness."

    She spoke to two Infectious-disease experts, who told her they believed "the number of deaths attributed to COVID is far greater than the actual number of people dying from COVID."

    Wen also cited infectious-disease physician Shira Doron, who figured out that "In recent months, only about 30 percent of total hospitalizations with COVID were primarily attributed to the virus" in Massachusetts hospitals for example. 

    DONALD TRUMP RIGHT AGAIN

     

     

     

     
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    Hank Haney, golf instructor to the rich and famous to include Tiger and Charles has been unhealthy since allowing the vaxxxx inside his body. Haney has caught covid 3 times from the very safe and effective vaxxxine and has not been healthy since his injection laced with spike protein. Someone please tell Mr Haney to begin detoxification of his blood asap!

     

    Hank Haney on Twitter: "I have no regrets getting the Covid vaccine, I regret other bad decisions I’ve made in my life but not that one. I just wish I never got it. Covid 3 times after the vaccine and I’ve nothing but sick since. I guess I should be happy, haven’t had a stroke yet." / Twitter 

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    Hank Haney, golf instructor to the rich and famous to include Tiger and Charles has been unhealthy since allowing the vaxxxx inside his body. Haney has caught covid 3 times from the very safe and effective vaxxxine and has not been healthy since his injection laced with spike protein. Someone please tell Mr Haney to begin detoxification of his blood asap!

     

    Hank Haney on Twitter: "I have no regrets getting the Covid vaccine, I regret other bad decisions I’ve made in my life but not that one. I just wish I never got it. Covid 3 times after the vaccine and I’ve nothing but sick since. I guess I should be happy, haven’t had a stroke yet." / Twitter 

     
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    @UNIMAN

     Amazing to me to see how the truths are finally now coming out but those who are sharing the truth are still getting vilified for sharing....shame to see.   

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @UNIMAN

     Amazing to me to see how the truths are finally now coming out but those who are sharing the truth are still getting vilified for sharing....shame to see.   

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: WHY WASN'T ANYTHING DONE TO PREVENT OVERSEA VARIANTS FROM ENTERING OUR COUNTRY???  WAS THE OPEN SOUTHERN BORDER A GOOD IDEA? Many countries try travel restrictions but that didn't stop the pandemic.  History shows little evidence that travel bans work except to temporarily delay virus spread by a few days according to World health organization and John Hopkins university.  US south border is not open but secured by thousands of officers and extensive barriers.  Only a minority of migrants are allowed to enter the US.  Vast majority of infections are via local community transmissions rather than from Mexico migrants who are just a drop in population bucket.  Other countries should be more afraid of travellers from the US.

     

    very good pts  

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: WHY WASN'T ANYTHING DONE TO PREVENT OVERSEA VARIANTS FROM ENTERING OUR COUNTRY???  WAS THE OPEN SOUTHERN BORDER A GOOD IDEA? Many countries try travel restrictions but that didn't stop the pandemic.  History shows little evidence that travel bans work except to temporarily delay virus spread by a few days according to World health organization and John Hopkins university.  US south border is not open but secured by thousands of officers and extensive barriers.  Only a minority of migrants are allowed to enter the US.  Vast majority of infections are via local community transmissions rather than from Mexico migrants who are just a drop in population bucket.  Other countries should be more afraid of travellers from the US.

     

    very good pts  

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2023 - 4:50 PM ET #4539

    Inside the link below is 6 minutes of great journalism from Ezra Levant and Avi Yemini of Rebel News. They interview Albert Bourla, CEO of Phizer on the streets of Davos, Switzerland. Albert Bourla is a criminal and should be in shackles next to Bill Gates!

    Rebel News on Twitter: "WE CAUGHT HIM! Watch what happened when @ezralevant & @OzraeliAvi spotted Albert Bourla, the CEO of Pfizer, on the street in Davos today. We finally asked him all the questions the mainstream media refuses to ask. Story: https://t.co/eIp37FWNtz SUPPORT: https://t.co/aJiaQfYNuD https://t.co/6jSVAzCB0d" / Twitter

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    Inside the link below is 6 minutes of great journalism from Ezra Levant and Avi Yemini of Rebel News. They interview Albert Bourla, CEO of Phizer on the streets of Davos, Switzerland. Albert Bourla is a criminal and should be in shackles next to Bill Gates!

    Rebel News on Twitter: "WE CAUGHT HIM! Watch what happened when @ezralevant & @OzraeliAvi spotted Albert Bourla, the CEO of Pfizer, on the street in Davos today. We finally asked him all the questions the mainstream media refuses to ask. Story: https://t.co/eIp37FWNtz SUPPORT: https://t.co/aJiaQfYNuD https://t.co/6jSVAzCB0d" / Twitter

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2023 - 7:36 PM ET #4540

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Dr Wen, CNN medical analyst and Washington Post columnist ; "We are overcounting COVID deaths and hospitalizations.

    Most experts still believe covid deaths aren't over counted.  Under counting is more likely.  Especially in first year of pandemic because of unreported covid deaths and lack of widespread testing.  Death data is a lagging indicator but should be more accurate nowadays.  Newer studies suggest the real death toll is far higher than official figures. 

    Doctor Jeremy Faust disagrees with doctor Wen who provides no evidence to prove over counting.  But population data such as excess mortality can overcome variations in reporting, testing and assigning causes of deaths.  In the US, there has been over a million excess deaths since March 2020 than would be expected under normal conditions.  If covid deaths are over counted, they should exceed all causes excess deaths.  But that didn't happen in 2021 and 2022.  If anything, excess mortality data shows evidences of under counting of covid deaths.

    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Dr Wen, CNN medical analyst and Washington Post columnist ; "We are overcounting COVID deaths and hospitalizations.

    Most experts still believe covid deaths aren't over counted.  Under counting is more likely.  Especially in first year of pandemic because of unreported covid deaths and lack of widespread testing.  Death data is a lagging indicator but should be more accurate nowadays.  Newer studies suggest the real death toll is far higher than official figures. 

    Doctor Jeremy Faust disagrees with doctor Wen who provides no evidence to prove over counting.  But population data such as excess mortality can overcome variations in reporting, testing and assigning causes of deaths.  In the US, there has been over a million excess deaths since March 2020 than would be expected under normal conditions.  If covid deaths are over counted, they should exceed all causes excess deaths.  But that didn't happen in 2021 and 2022.  If anything, excess mortality data shows evidences of under counting of covid deaths.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2023 - 9:46 AM ET #4541

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Dr Wen, CNN medical analyst and Washington Post columnist ; "We are overcounting COVID deaths and hospitalizations. Most experts still believe covid deaths aren't over counted.  Under counting is more likely.  Especially in first year of pandemic because of unreported covid deaths and lack of widespread testing.  Death data is a lagging indicator but should be more accurate nowadays.  Newer studies suggest the real death toll is far higher than official figures.  Doctor Jeremy Faust disagrees with doctor Wen who provides no evidence to prove over counting.  But population data such as excess mortality can overcome variations in reporting, testing and assigning causes of deaths.  In the US, there has been over a million excess deaths since March 2020 than would be expected under normal conditions.  If covid deaths are over counted, they should exceed all causes excess deaths.  But that didn't happen in 2021 and 2022.  If anything, excess mortality data shows evidences of under counting of covid deaths.

    Guess this went in the eyes and out the ears;

    Wen also cited infectious-disease physician Shira Doron, who figured out that "In recent months, only about 30 percent of total hospitalizations with COVID were primarily attributed to the virus" in Massachusetts hospitals for example. 

     

    So this Dr. Jeremy Faust that every media outlet labels as " leading doctor". Only eleven years experience? Hmmm. And he said this, March 2020;

    • Dr Jeremy Samuel Faust said people should not be anxious about the outbreak and stop hoarding food and masks 
    • He claimed that the coronavirus death rate is less than 1 percent - far lower than the World Health Organization’s alarming figures of 3.4 percent
    • The doctor slammed the ‘frightening numbers’ which overstate the risk 

    The doctor slammed the ‘frightening numbers’ which he said are not only conflicting, but massively overstate the risk to people.   

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Dr Wen, CNN medical analyst and Washington Post columnist ; "We are overcounting COVID deaths and hospitalizations. Most experts still believe covid deaths aren't over counted.  Under counting is more likely.  Especially in first year of pandemic because of unreported covid deaths and lack of widespread testing.  Death data is a lagging indicator but should be more accurate nowadays.  Newer studies suggest the real death toll is far higher than official figures.  Doctor Jeremy Faust disagrees with doctor Wen who provides no evidence to prove over counting.  But population data such as excess mortality can overcome variations in reporting, testing and assigning causes of deaths.  In the US, there has been over a million excess deaths since March 2020 than would be expected under normal conditions.  If covid deaths are over counted, they should exceed all causes excess deaths.  But that didn't happen in 2021 and 2022.  If anything, excess mortality data shows evidences of under counting of covid deaths.

    Guess this went in the eyes and out the ears;

    Wen also cited infectious-disease physician Shira Doron, who figured out that "In recent months, only about 30 percent of total hospitalizations with COVID were primarily attributed to the virus" in Massachusetts hospitals for example. 

     

    So this Dr. Jeremy Faust that every media outlet labels as " leading doctor". Only eleven years experience? Hmmm. And he said this, March 2020;

    • Dr Jeremy Samuel Faust said people should not be anxious about the outbreak and stop hoarding food and masks 
    • He claimed that the coronavirus death rate is less than 1 percent - far lower than the World Health Organization’s alarming figures of 3.4 percent
    • The doctor slammed the ‘frightening numbers’ which overstate the risk 

    The doctor slammed the ‘frightening numbers’ which he said are not only conflicting, but massively overstate the risk to people.   

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Young and fit female soldier removed from active duty after being forced by our cowardly and woke Secretary of Defense to take the vaccine or be sent home with a less than honorable discharge. Her sad story is inside the link below. She will be on blood thinners the rest of her life! Did she deserve this? Telegram: Contact @mrn_death

     

    They simply hate women, the sexists,  so sad

     

    Good for her tho, she shouldn't devote herself to the cowards

    We'll let her join the force against them when the time comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

    Young and fit female soldier removed from active duty after being forced by our cowardly and woke Secretary of Defense to take the vaccine or be sent home with a less than honorable discharge. Her sad story is inside the link below. She will be on blood thinners the rest of her life! Did she deserve this? Telegram: Contact @mrn_death

     

    They simply hate women, the sexists,  so sad

     

    Good for her tho, she shouldn't devote herself to the cowards

    We'll let her join the force against them when the time comes.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Young and fit female soldier removed from active duty after being forced by our cowardly and woke Secretary of Defense to take the vaccine or be sent home with a less than honorable discharge. Her sad story is inside the link below. She will be on blood thinners the rest of her life! Did she deserve this? Telegram: Contact @mrn_death   They simply hate women, the sexists,  so sad   Good for her tho, she shouldn't devote herself to the cowards We'll let her join the force against them when the time comes.

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKlink:

    Quote Originally Posted by sundance: Young and fit female soldier removed from active duty after being forced by our cowardly and woke Secretary of Defense to take the vaccine or be sent home with a less than honorable discharge. Her sad story is inside the link below. She will be on blood thinners the rest of her life! Did she deserve this? Telegram: Contact @mrn_death   They simply hate women, the sexists,  so sad   Good for her tho, she shouldn't devote herself to the cowards We'll let her join the force against them when the time comes.

    peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Most experts still believe covid deaths aren't over counted.  Under counting is more likely Especially in first year of pandemic because of unreported covid deaths and lack of widespread testing.  Death data is a lagging indicator but should be more accurate nowadays.  

     

     peace_5

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Most experts still believe covid deaths aren't over counted.  Under counting is more likely Especially in first year of pandemic because of unreported covid deaths and lack of widespread testing.  Death data is a lagging indicator but should be more accurate nowadays.  

     

     peace_5

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2023 - 8:41 PM ET #4545

    Project Veritas does it again!

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    Project Veritas does it again!

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    Posted: Jan. 26, 2023 - 8:46 PM ET #4546

    Great stuff...project veritas..

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    Great stuff...project veritas..

     
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    According to wikipedia, Project Veritas produces deceptively edited videos in undercover operations to discredit mainstream organizations.  This far right activist group promotes disinformation and conspiracy theories.

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    According to wikipedia, Project Veritas produces deceptively edited videos in undercover operations to discredit mainstream organizations.  This far right activist group promotes disinformation and conspiracy theories.

     
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    In 2021, covid misinformation causing vaccine hesitancy costs at least 2800 lives and $300 million in hospitalization according to research by Council of Canadian academies. 

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    In 2021, covid misinformation causing vaccine hesitancy costs at least 2800 lives and $300 million in hospitalization according to research by Council of Canadian academies. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 27, 2023 - 4:24 AM ET #4549

    The Project Veritas video is inside the link below. The evil inside Pfizer is shown in the 1st minute of the video!

    Project Veritas has broken Pfizer's Gain-of-Function Research Program Wide Open. (substack.com)

     

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    The Project Veritas video is inside the link below. The evil inside Pfizer is shown in the 1st minute of the video!

    Project Veritas has broken Pfizer's Gain-of-Function Research Program Wide Open. (substack.com)

     

     
     
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    According to Newsweek, unverified whether Pfizer is involved in gain of function research or not.  There isn't enough information in video to be certain whether Pfizer employee is discussing theoretical experiments or if these are related to covid.  Controversial Project Veritas has a history of pretending to be journalists and losing lawsuits from producing misleading videos to create bad publicity against enemies for political gain.

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    According to Newsweek, unverified whether Pfizer is involved in gain of function research or not.  There isn't enough information in video to be certain whether Pfizer employee is discussing theoretical experiments or if these are related to covid.  Controversial Project Veritas has a history of pretending to be journalists and losing lawsuits from producing misleading videos to create bad publicity against enemies for political gain.

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