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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2025 - 3:03 PM ET #226

    @unplucked_gem

     This tells you plenty, you lean on the partisan crutch versus what the real issues are. CD did nothing that you are suggesting, if you feel he did then REPORT the issue and it will be looked into.

    Members who cannot refrain from making personal remarks and attacks get boxed or banned, I think the reality is that some members here have an understanding of the rules and some do not.

    You could try to be better at keeping the rules and try to see past your partisan biases and stick to the site rules and try getting along better with those you might disagree with.

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    @unplucked_gem

     This tells you plenty, you lean on the partisan crutch versus what the real issues are. CD did nothing that you are suggesting, if you feel he did then REPORT the issue and it will be looked into.

    Members who cannot refrain from making personal remarks and attacks get boxed or banned, I think the reality is that some members here have an understanding of the rules and some do not.

    You could try to be better at keeping the rules and try to see past your partisan biases and stick to the site rules and try getting along better with those you might disagree with.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2025 - 3:06 PM ET #227

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     Follow your messages in this thread, what did you say to him first? Did he engage with you and interact with you to deserve the reply you made? Did I deserve the reply you made to me and that I ignored?

    If you want to fight with someone I would suggest you do not...but if you cant help yourself then only do this in the box, but it would be better if you tried to refrain in the first place.

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     Follow your messages in this thread, what did you say to him first? Did he engage with you and interact with you to deserve the reply you made? Did I deserve the reply you made to me and that I ignored?

    If you want to fight with someone I would suggest you do not...but if you cant help yourself then only do this in the box, but it would be better if you tried to refrain in the first place.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2025 - 3:09 PM ET #228

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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2025 - 3:11 PM ET #229

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Miracling2  Follow your messages in this thread, what did you say to him first? Did he engage with you and interact with you to deserve the reply you made? Did I deserve the reply you made to me and that I ignored? If you want to fight with someone I would suggest you do not...but if you cant help yourself then only do this in the box, but it would be better if you tried to refrain in the first place.

     

    like i said i dont have plans nor hope to have a healthy conversation with him.

    so i wont continue it’s a waste of time.

    and hey i dont have plans to intentionally offend you too. I just said i dont agree with your statement. That i highlighted right.

    thanks for the reminder. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @Miracling2  Follow your messages in this thread, what did you say to him first? Did he engage with you and interact with you to deserve the reply you made? Did I deserve the reply you made to me and that I ignored? If you want to fight with someone I would suggest you do not...but if you cant help yourself then only do this in the box, but it would be better if you tried to refrain in the first place.

     

    like i said i dont have plans nor hope to have a healthy conversation with him.

    so i wont continue it’s a waste of time.

    and hey i dont have plans to intentionally offend you too. I just said i dont agree with your statement. That i highlighted right.

    thanks for the reminder. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2025 - 3:12 PM ET #230

    @unplucked_gem

    Why make the comments when you do not want a response? Anyone can reply in this thread and if you make a critical comment to me you for sure can expect a reply. If you want a better result then be the better member and try to avoid personal attacks and breaking the rules.

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    @unplucked_gem

    Why make the comments when you do not want a response? Anyone can reply in this thread and if you make a critical comment to me you for sure can expect a reply. If you want a better result then be the better member and try to avoid personal attacks and breaking the rules.

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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2025 - 3:22 PM ET #231

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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2025 - 3:28 PM ET #232

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     Bro charlie kirk was a disgusting human being who made a living by playing to white nationalist ideologies. He said some of the most heinous vile and disgusting $hit about people in ever heard a human say. Maybe thats why him and trump fit well together. Guy was not a great person of faith cause a person of faith doesn't sow seeds of hate.  Jesus is love not hate. So spare me your bs.  

     

    Guy once said people getting killed every week is necessary for their 2nd amendment rights

     So he got his wish then. No empathy or care from me whatsoever. Cause that side made fun of George floyd, made fun of Eric Garner, Paul pelosi, and the Minnesota political couple who got killed.

     

    They get the same grace they give which is none. All use God for political purposes and are not real Christians just People who Mock God.

     

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     Bro charlie kirk was a disgusting human being who made a living by playing to white nationalist ideologies. He said some of the most heinous vile and disgusting $hit about people in ever heard a human say. Maybe thats why him and trump fit well together. Guy was not a great person of faith cause a person of faith doesn't sow seeds of hate.  Jesus is love not hate. So spare me your bs.  

     

    Guy once said people getting killed every week is necessary for their 2nd amendment rights

     So he got his wish then. No empathy or care from me whatsoever. Cause that side made fun of George floyd, made fun of Eric Garner, Paul pelosi, and the Minnesota political couple who got killed.

     

    They get the same grace they give which is none. All use God for political purposes and are not real Christians just People who Mock God.

     

    Don't ever say $hit to be again

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2025 - 3:44 PM ET #233

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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2025 - 5:44 PM ET #234

    According to Daily beast, grandmother of shooting suspect says that her family is all MAGA republican.  Not really surprising because other shooting suspects are republican too.  But Trump and others quickly blame democrats for shooting?  Obviously, most divisive president in US history is not someone who can calm and unify a divided country.

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    According to Daily beast, grandmother of shooting suspect says that her family is all MAGA republican.  Not really surprising because other shooting suspects are republican too.  But Trump and others quickly blame democrats for shooting?  Obviously, most divisive president in US history is not someone who can calm and unify a divided country.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2025 - 5:47 PM ET #235

    Anyone that can answer me why Kash Patel said “… see you in Valhal”? - Now I come from the most significant and influential Viking nation of the four there were - and Valhal were their heaven for fallen soldiers chosen by the God Odin - I feel sorry for this Kirk as I have said before - but he would not go to Valhal - wtf that is our heaven ! Don’t you have your own ? I just want to say this considering I had to hear bullshit about Danish history earlier - I think it is striking we are “cool” enough that you guys just randomly “steal” our culture when you want to seem “cool”

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    Anyone that can answer me why Kash Patel said “… see you in Valhal”? - Now I come from the most significant and influential Viking nation of the four there were - and Valhal were their heaven for fallen soldiers chosen by the God Odin - I feel sorry for this Kirk as I have said before - but he would not go to Valhal - wtf that is our heaven ! Don’t you have your own ? I just want to say this considering I had to hear bullshit about Danish history earlier - I think it is striking we are “cool” enough that you guys just randomly “steal” our culture when you want to seem “cool”

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2025 - 7:26 PM ET #236

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    Anyone that can answer me why Kash Patel said “… see you in Valhal”? - Now I come from the most significant and influential Viking nation of the four there were - and Valhal were their heaven for fallen soldiers chosen by the God Odin - I feel sorry for this Kirk as I have said before - but he would not go to Valhal - wtf that is our heaven ! Don’t you have your own ? I just want to say this considering I had to hear bullshit about Danish history earlier - I think it is striking we are “cool” enough that you guys just randomly “steal” our culture when you want to seem “cool”

    Maybe Charlie makes it to Valhalla. I don't know his genealogy. He's midwestern and there's a lot of Scandavian blood in the midwest and plains. So if Kirk does find his way to Valhalla, Kash Patel... Kash Patel, definitely won't be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    Anyone that can answer me why Kash Patel said “… see you in Valhal”? - Now I come from the most significant and influential Viking nation of the four there were - and Valhal were their heaven for fallen soldiers chosen by the God Odin - I feel sorry for this Kirk as I have said before - but he would not go to Valhal - wtf that is our heaven ! Don’t you have your own ? I just want to say this considering I had to hear bullshit about Danish history earlier - I think it is striking we are “cool” enough that you guys just randomly “steal” our culture when you want to seem “cool”

    Maybe Charlie makes it to Valhalla. I don't know his genealogy. He's midwestern and there's a lot of Scandavian blood in the midwest and plains. So if Kirk does find his way to Valhalla, Kash Patel... Kash Patel, definitely won't be there.

     
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    The Vikings had multiple “heavens” Valhalla was “reserved” for warriors that died a heroic death in an actual battle - like a war - because Odin wanted them to help fight at Ragnarok - so Kirk could literally descent directly from Harald Bluetooth himself and he still wouldn’t go to Valhal 

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    The Vikings had multiple “heavens” Valhalla was “reserved” for warriors that died a heroic death in an actual battle - like a war - because Odin wanted them to help fight at Ragnarok - so Kirk could literally descent directly from Harald Bluetooth himself and he still wouldn’t go to Valhal 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2025 - 7:34 PM ET #240

    An MSN article just stated that there is a list of politically conservative targets for assassination by the political left. On that list is Joe Rogan, Harry Potter the author JK Rowling, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh and others.

     

    In response to being targeted, Rowling, said, “If you believe free speech is for you but not your political opponents, you're illiberal. If no contrary evidence could change your beliefs, you're a fundamentalist. If you believe the state should punish those with contrary views, you're a totalitarian. If you believe political opponents should be punished with violence or death, you're a terrorist.”

    Shapiro said, “We will never stop debating and discussing. We will never stop standing up for what America is and what she should be. And we will never let Charlie’s voice die.”

    Walsh also said people were sending him screenshots of posted death threats, saying, “A lot of concerned people are sending me these screenshots (and dozens more). I appreciate their concern. But I’m not surprised and I won’t be going into hiding. We have to be louder and bolder now than ever. Or else the demons who killed Charlie win. And they cannot win.”

    A website has also been launched to "Expose Charlie's Murders." It includes statements posted on social media by individuals who allegedly espouse violence as well as those celebrating Kirk’s assassination.

    “We have received nearly 20,000 submissions,” the site says. “This website will soon be converted into a searchable database of all 20,000 submissions, filterable by general location and job industry. This is a permanent and continuously-updating archive of Radical activists calling for violence.”

    The website has posted screenshots of the posts made, the alleged poster’s name, publicly available information about their employer, the company’s name, university or college and other publicly available information like the town and state where they live that the poster made public themselves.

    One post states, “We need to find people with better aim,” implying more politically conservative individuals should be murdered. Others posts state, “God bless the Second Amendment right;” “Are guns an issue now?” with graphic depictions of Kirk’s murder; “White supremacist down,” among others. Many posts refer to Kirk and his followers as “Nazis.”

    According to publicly available social media posts, those making the claims include U.S. military contractor employees; students and faculty from multiple colleges and universities, early childhood teachers and daycare workers, assisted living and senior living facilities employees, city fire department employees, attorneys, a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader; school board members, a U.S. Army career counselor, among thousands more.

    Those making the posts appear to be from different economic and racial demographics and appear to identify as the political left. They openly claim to oppose Christianity and support LGBTQ, policies, according to the screenshots of the posts.

    and the article goes on.....

    Wow...an_eek2

     

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    An MSN article just stated that there is a list of politically conservative targets for assassination by the political left. On that list is Joe Rogan, Harry Potter the author JK Rowling, Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh and others.

     

    In response to being targeted, Rowling, said, “If you believe free speech is for you but not your political opponents, you're illiberal. If no contrary evidence could change your beliefs, you're a fundamentalist. If you believe the state should punish those with contrary views, you're a totalitarian. If you believe political opponents should be punished with violence or death, you're a terrorist.”

    Shapiro said, “We will never stop debating and discussing. We will never stop standing up for what America is and what she should be. And we will never let Charlie’s voice die.”

    Walsh also said people were sending him screenshots of posted death threats, saying, “A lot of concerned people are sending me these screenshots (and dozens more). I appreciate their concern. But I’m not surprised and I won’t be going into hiding. We have to be louder and bolder now than ever. Or else the demons who killed Charlie win. And they cannot win.”

    A website has also been launched to "Expose Charlie's Murders." It includes statements posted on social media by individuals who allegedly espouse violence as well as those celebrating Kirk’s assassination.

    “We have received nearly 20,000 submissions,” the site says. “This website will soon be converted into a searchable database of all 20,000 submissions, filterable by general location and job industry. This is a permanent and continuously-updating archive of Radical activists calling for violence.”

    The website has posted screenshots of the posts made, the alleged poster’s name, publicly available information about their employer, the company’s name, university or college and other publicly available information like the town and state where they live that the poster made public themselves.

    One post states, “We need to find people with better aim,” implying more politically conservative individuals should be murdered. Others posts state, “God bless the Second Amendment right;” “Are guns an issue now?” with graphic depictions of Kirk’s murder; “White supremacist down,” among others. Many posts refer to Kirk and his followers as “Nazis.”

    According to publicly available social media posts, those making the claims include U.S. military contractor employees; students and faculty from multiple colleges and universities, early childhood teachers and daycare workers, assisted living and senior living facilities employees, city fire department employees, attorneys, a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader; school board members, a U.S. Army career counselor, among thousands more.

    Those making the posts appear to be from different economic and racial demographics and appear to identify as the political left. They openly claim to oppose Christianity and support LGBTQ, policies, according to the screenshots of the posts.

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    @Calde13 Quite possibly being too literal.  More probable he's just playing to the fallen soldier terminology given the nature of his departure. Whether he gets there isnt for you, me, or anyone else to say.

     

    Yeah ok I accept both you and Stus explanations and can I survive he used “our heaven” sure I am a big boy - but wouldn’t you find it weird if the Cowboys had have their own heaven - and then I would randomly say to a Dane that were killed they would go there - also even if they were American by 20th generation - it would even be weird to say “Valhal” here and we are the main nation that actually has been vikings at one point - and it was “our” soldiers that went to Valhal - I will just leave it here - it isn’t a bigger deal than this - but I found it weird

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    @Calde13 Quite possibly being too literal.  More probable he's just playing to the fallen soldier terminology given the nature of his departure. Whether he gets there isnt for you, me, or anyone else to say.

     

    Yeah ok I accept both you and Stus explanations and can I survive he used “our heaven” sure I am a big boy - but wouldn’t you find it weird if the Cowboys had have their own heaven - and then I would randomly say to a Dane that were killed they would go there - also even if they were American by 20th generation - it would even be weird to say “Valhal” here and we are the main nation that actually has been vikings at one point - and it was “our” soldiers that went to Valhal - I will just leave it here - it isn’t a bigger deal than this - but I found it weird

     
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    No it wouldn’t it would be closer to Afghanistan saying Osama bin Laden (just a controversial figure I know - I don’t say they are the same in extreme) would go to heaven and then not expect backlash from any American Christian

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    No it wouldn’t it would be closer to Afghanistan saying Osama bin Laden (just a controversial figure I know - I don’t say they are the same in extreme) would go to heaven and then not expect backlash from any American Christian

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:

    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem: @Calde13 Quite possibly being too literal.  More probable he's just playing to the fallen soldier terminology given the nature of his departure. Whether he gets there isnt for you, me, or anyone else to say.   Yeah ok I accept both you and Stus explanations and can I survive he used “our heaven” sure I am a big boy - but wouldn’t you find it weird if the Cowboys had have their own heaven - and then I would randomly say to a Dane that were killed they would go there - also even if they were American by 20th generation - it would even be weird to say “Valhal” here and we are the main nation that actually has been vikings at one point - and it was “our” soldiers that went to Valhal - I will just leave it here - it isn’t a bigger deal than this - but I found it weird

    It's definitely weird in many contexts. And as a Scandavian, I do respect your take on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem: @Calde13 Quite possibly being too literal.  More probable he's just playing to the fallen soldier terminology given the nature of his departure. Whether he gets there isnt for you, me, or anyone else to say.   Yeah ok I accept both you and Stus explanations and can I survive he used “our heaven” sure I am a big boy - but wouldn’t you find it weird if the Cowboys had have their own heaven - and then I would randomly say to a Dane that were killed they would go there - also even if they were American by 20th generation - it would even be weird to say “Valhal” here and we are the main nation that actually has been vikings at one point - and it was “our” soldiers that went to Valhal - I will just leave it here - it isn’t a bigger deal than this - but I found it weird

    It's definitely weird in many contexts. And as a Scandavian, I do respect your take on the subject.

     
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    Also, has anyone seen reports that the suspect might be in the alphabet gang? They sure are taking L's recently.

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    Also, has anyone seen reports that the suspect might be in the alphabet gang? They sure are taking L's recently.

     
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     How many gangs are there down in St.George? Its a sleepy retirement community, the multiple times I spent there I do not recall seeing thug gangs dragging the main street looking for recruits.

     

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     How many gangs are there down in St.George? Its a sleepy retirement community, the multiple times I spent there I do not recall seeing thug gangs dragging the main street looking for recruits.

     

     
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     The article goes on to state

     

    Separate from the website, screenshots of social media posts of individuals celebrating Kirk’s assassination are also being posted online. Clemson College Republicans highlighted two professor posts, including a since deleted post stating Kirk’s assassination was karma and another saying, “Nigga was worried about DEI and DIED instead.” CCR also posted the phone numbers of the president and deans calling for accountability. The university has yet to issue a statement.

     

    At Seattle Central College, the directive, “Kill All Charlie Kirks” was spray-painted on a college sign and an image of Kirk being killed was posted on a message board stating, “debate this.” Political commentator Sarah Stock said, “Not only are leftists gleefully celebrating Charlie’s murder, they are now using it to incite violence against conservative college students. This is political terrorism.”

    Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said at a news conference that authorities found shell casings with several inscriptions, including, “Hey fascist, Catch!” and “Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao,” referring to a song used by resistance fighters in Italy during World War II.

    Cox has described Kirk’s murder as a political assassination and is working to ensure his killer receives the death penalty.

    Online threats made about conservatives and public figures have been reported to law enforcement.

    By contrast to the hatred spewed online, pastors are calling Americans to prayer, hoping Kirk’s death is a “catalyst to return America to a people of Godly values,” 

     

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     The article goes on to state

     

    Separate from the website, screenshots of social media posts of individuals celebrating Kirk’s assassination are also being posted online. Clemson College Republicans highlighted two professor posts, including a since deleted post stating Kirk’s assassination was karma and another saying, “Nigga was worried about DEI and DIED instead.” CCR also posted the phone numbers of the president and deans calling for accountability. The university has yet to issue a statement.

     

    At Seattle Central College, the directive, “Kill All Charlie Kirks” was spray-painted on a college sign and an image of Kirk being killed was posted on a message board stating, “debate this.” Political commentator Sarah Stock said, “Not only are leftists gleefully celebrating Charlie’s murder, they are now using it to incite violence against conservative college students. This is political terrorism.”

    Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said at a news conference that authorities found shell casings with several inscriptions, including, “Hey fascist, Catch!” and “Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao,” referring to a song used by resistance fighters in Italy during World War II.

    Cox has described Kirk’s murder as a political assassination and is working to ensure his killer receives the death penalty.

    Online threats made about conservatives and public figures have been reported to law enforcement.

    By contrast to the hatred spewed online, pastors are calling Americans to prayer, hoping Kirk’s death is a “catalyst to return America to a people of Godly values,” 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @StumpTownStu  How many gangs are there down in St.George? Its a sleepy retirement community, the multiple times I spent there I do not recall seeing thug gangs dragging the main street looking for recruits.

    I don't know that there are any gangs in St.George though it has been my experience that hispanic gangs are literally everywhere. Neither here nor there. The gang i'm referring to is the LGBTQ+ community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @StumpTownStu  How many gangs are there down in St.George? Its a sleepy retirement community, the multiple times I spent there I do not recall seeing thug gangs dragging the main street looking for recruits.

    I don't know that there are any gangs in St.George though it has been my experience that hispanic gangs are literally everywhere. Neither here nor there. The gang i'm referring to is the LGBTQ+ community.

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