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    Best Bet is Trump 4-1 over Killary

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    Relax_Dude
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 2:09 PM ET #1

    While it is understandable that Trump's matter of fact unfiltered bombastic rhetoric can get sensitive groups riled up in fear and even becoming racist (anti-white in disguise), and therefore his closest challenger gets flooded with PAC $$$ and GOP support from insiders, and the media joins in to the negativity with anti-Trump headlines--and still Trump pulls in over 35% with 3-4 challengers.....

    ....it is MIND BOGGLING that a two term US Senator from NY, former Sec of State, former First Lady and successful corporate lawyer is losing more states to a SOCIALIST who has two ruffled suits, who asks for FIVE DOLLARS in donations, who is74 years old (would be the oldest President ever), and is getting the younger vote, and if ONLY BERNIE COULD GET HALF THE BLACK VOTE (losing 2-1 to Killary) he would be trouncing her. WTF??? Unreal.

    I think it's a bad sign for Killary, because the Party of Lincoln will split that African American vote, and Trump will roll through Florida, New York Ohio and Michigan, and of coursetheSouth--Trump won the black vote over his rivals.

    Killary's weak statements about Muslim acceptance PALE in comparison to Trumps straight shooting security first messages.

    Killary: "The Muslim faith is a peaceful religion and Islam and the refugees of Syria are welcome in this country. ..."

    Trump: "My heart and prayers go out to all the victims of this tragedy in Brussels. This madness has got to stop. We have to get to the bottom of this hatred for Americans and Christians, and protect our nation..."

    Cruz will be behind Trump in ANY MATHEMATICAL SCENARIO of delegate counting and nabbing and cajoling. Trump is in, and odds go down after NY Penn andMaryland primaries. Jump on the Trump train and collect in November!!!
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    While it is understandable that Trump's matter of fact unfiltered bombastic rhetoric can get sensitive groups riled up in fear and even becoming racist (anti-white in disguise), and therefore his closest challenger gets flooded with PAC $$$ and GOP support from insiders, and the media joins in to the negativity with anti-Trump headlines--and still Trump pulls in over 35% with 3-4 challengers.....

    ....it is MIND BOGGLING that a two term US Senator from NY, former Sec of State, former First Lady and successful corporate lawyer is losing more states to a SOCIALIST who has two ruffled suits, who asks for FIVE DOLLARS in donations, who is74 years old (would be the oldest President ever), and is getting the younger vote, and if ONLY BERNIE COULD GET HALF THE BLACK VOTE (losing 2-1 to Killary) he would be trouncing her. WTF??? Unreal.

    I think it's a bad sign for Killary, because the Party of Lincoln will split that African American vote, and Trump will roll through Florida, New York Ohio and Michigan, and of coursetheSouth--Trump won the black vote over his rivals.

    Killary's weak statements about Muslim acceptance PALE in comparison to Trumps straight shooting security first messages.

    Killary: "The Muslim faith is a peaceful religion and Islam and the refugees of Syria are welcome in this country. ..."

    Trump: "My heart and prayers go out to all the victims of this tragedy in Brussels. This madness has got to stop. We have to get to the bottom of this hatred for Americans and Christians, and protect our nation..."

    Cruz will be behind Trump in ANY MATHEMATICAL SCENARIO of delegate counting and nabbing and cajoling. Trump is in, and odds go down after NY Penn andMaryland primaries. Jump on the Trump train and collect in November!!!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 2:31 PM ET #2

    It's funny to think anyone would put money on such a biased opinion.


    Trump trolled
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    It's funny to think anyone would put money on such a biased opinion.


    Trump trolled
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 2:44 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    It's funny to think anyone would put money on such a biased opinion.Trump trolled

    More Bubble gum chatter from the wanker
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    It's funny to think anyone would put money on such a biased opinion.Trump trolled

    More Bubble gum chatter from the wanker
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 2:47 PM ET #4

    If that's what you call your long winded emotional post,  who am I to disagree 
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    If that's what you call your long winded emotional post,  who am I to disagree 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 2:58 PM ET #5

    Trump isn't going to get the 1237 delegates he needs to get the nomination and it's going to go to a convention. The republicans will darn him over at that point. 

    Is there crazy odds on Paul Ryan winning the R nomination? Ryan all of a sudden comes out with a campaign ad at the last hour, I think the endgame is he's going to be their guy. Throw a little action on that.
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    Trump isn't going to get the 1237 delegates he needs to get the nomination and it's going to go to a convention. The republicans will darn him over at that point. 

    Is there crazy odds on Paul Ryan winning the R nomination? Ryan all of a sudden comes out with a campaign ad at the last hour, I think the endgame is he's going to be their guy. Throw a little action on that.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 3:14 PM ET #6

    Interesting long shot bet from a more rational point of view rather than a insane emotional one.  What's the odds?
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    Interesting long shot bet from a more rational point of view rather than a insane emotional one.  What's the odds?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 3:57 PM ET #7

    Relax-dude. I am not sure what you are paying attention to or why you are being stubborn. But not only will trump not beat Hillary. He will not even get the nomination. Stop being an idiot and open your eyes. It will not happen. Regardless of delegate count the GOP simply will not let it happen.

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    Relax-dude. I am not sure what you are paying attention to or why you are being stubborn. But not only will trump not beat Hillary. He will not even get the nomination. Stop being an idiot and open your eyes. It will not happen. Regardless of delegate count the GOP simply will not let it happen.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 3:58 PM ET #8

    Here's a winning ticket...........A Trump/Sanders Populist Party ticket...

    After Grandma Hillary's Super delegate's take Bernie out
    ..and the Republican establishment screws Trump out of the nomination ..they join forces and win the election in 2016 on a 3rd party ticket..


    It's a very strange year ,,strange things can happen....
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    Here's a winning ticket...........A Trump/Sanders Populist Party ticket...

    After Grandma Hillary's Super delegate's take Bernie out
    ..and the Republican establishment screws Trump out of the nomination ..they join forces and win the election in 2016 on a 3rd party ticket..


    It's a very strange year ,,strange things can happen....
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 4:37 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason497:

    Trump isn't going to get the 1237 delegates he needs to get the nomination and it's going to go to a convention. The republicans will darn him over at that point. Is there crazy odds on Paul Ryan winning the R nomination? Ryan all of a sudden comes out with a campaign ad at the last hour, I think the endgame is he's going to be their guy. Throw a little action on that.

    Chaotic to bring in Ryan. Even Cruz camp would riot. It will be Trump by virtue of having more. GOP with more sense than we and journalists give them credit for (well, let's try forget 1976...cough)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason497:

    Trump isn't going to get the 1237 delegates he needs to get the nomination and it's going to go to a convention. The republicans will darn him over at that point. Is there crazy odds on Paul Ryan winning the R nomination? Ryan all of a sudden comes out with a campaign ad at the last hour, I think the endgame is he's going to be their guy. Throw a little action on that.

    Chaotic to bring in Ryan. Even Cruz camp would riot. It will be Trump by virtue of having more. GOP with more sense than we and journalists give them credit for (well, let's try forget 1976...cough)
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 4:39 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Relax-dude. I am not sure what you are paying attention to or why you are being stubborn. But not only will trump not beat Hillary. He will not even get the nomination. Stop being an idiot and open your eyes. It will not happen. Regardless of delegate count the GOP simply will not let it happen.

    After New York let's talk again, but for now, agree to disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Relax-dude. I am not sure what you are paying attention to or why you are being stubborn. But not only will trump not beat Hillary. He will not even get the nomination. Stop being an idiot and open your eyes. It will not happen. Regardless of delegate count the GOP simply will not let it happen.

    After New York let's talk again, but for now, agree to disagree.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 4:49 PM ET #11

    Current odds for US Presidency:

    Clinton 1-2.
    Trump 6-1
    Sanders 10-1
    Cruz 14-1

    Polls and gambling odds are very distinct. Reagan was hitting lower than Trump is in the polls after Wisconsin, just 30% , and Jimmy Carter was at 55% in the polls. A lot can change in the volatile minds of voters when match ups are finalized.

    Nothing emotional said here, just the odds , and an opinion based on previous elections.
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    Current odds for US Presidency:

    Clinton 1-2.
    Trump 6-1
    Sanders 10-1
    Cruz 14-1

    Polls and gambling odds are very distinct. Reagan was hitting lower than Trump is in the polls after Wisconsin, just 30% , and Jimmy Carter was at 55% in the polls. A lot can change in the volatile minds of voters when match ups are finalized.

    Nothing emotional said here, just the odds , and an opinion based on previous elections.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 4:52 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Relax-dude. I am not sure what you are paying attention to or why you are being stubborn. But not only will trump not beat Hillary. He will not even get the nomination. Stop being an idiot and open your eyes. It will not happen. Regardless of delegate count the GOP simply will not let it happen.

    You think they want to deny Trump millions of votes, undo the ENTIRE process, and tell votes they don't know what they're doing, so we're gonna choose for y'all ? REALLY?
    Have YOU thought this out, or are you watching far too much CNN, and are PARROTING the talking heads??
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Relax-dude. I am not sure what you are paying attention to or why you are being stubborn. But not only will trump not beat Hillary. He will not even get the nomination. Stop being an idiot and open your eyes. It will not happen. Regardless of delegate count the GOP simply will not let it happen.

    You think they want to deny Trump millions of votes, undo the ENTIRE process, and tell votes they don't know what they're doing, so we're gonna choose for y'all ? REALLY?
    Have YOU thought this out, or are you watching far too much CNN, and are PARROTING the talking heads??
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 5:07 PM ET #13

    It isn't "democratic" when party elites can change allegiances of "committed" delegates. The Electoral College" is SH*T and completely UNI democratic and put a grinning Cheney into the WH despite losing the popular vote by a loot. The electoral college vote of Tennessee decided the 2000 election. The next hundred years will be more bullshiet. If the elites are just threatening to test the water , so be it. It is the American way to just win. But winning this way will be disastrous for the GOP. Hillary wins by a landslide over "Bush #3" (Cruz) or any last second lackey thrown in his place. Trump will siphon voters as a 3rd party candidate.
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    It isn't "democratic" when party elites can change allegiances of "committed" delegates. The Electoral College" is SH*T and completely UNI democratic and put a grinning Cheney into the WH despite losing the popular vote by a loot. The electoral college vote of Tennessee decided the 2000 election. The next hundred years will be more bullshiet. If the elites are just threatening to test the water , so be it. It is the American way to just win. But winning this way will be disastrous for the GOP. Hillary wins by a landslide over "Bush #3" (Cruz) or any last second lackey thrown in his place. Trump will siphon voters as a 3rd party candidate.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 5:10 PM ET #14

    Again I am not sure what you are watching. My opinion of what will happen is not only CNN driven. It is all over the place. left and right channels, news outlets, talk shows etc...

    It will happen and I am willing to bet any dollar amount on it.
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    Again I am not sure what you are watching. My opinion of what will happen is not only CNN driven. It is all over the place. left and right channels, news outlets, talk shows etc...

    It will happen and I am willing to bet any dollar amount on it.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Again I am not sure what you are watching. My opinion of what will happen is not only CNN driven. It is all over the place. left and right channels, news outlets, talk shows etc... It will happen and I am willing to bet any dollar amount on it.

    So you're planning to Assasinate him, or know someone who will? That's your best "shot" and has been done before with success in 1968. Otherwise, you're gonna lose .
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Again I am not sure what you are watching. My opinion of what will happen is not only CNN driven. It is all over the place. left and right channels, news outlets, talk shows etc... It will happen and I am willing to bet any dollar amount on it.

    So you're planning to Assasinate him, or know someone who will? That's your best "shot" and has been done before with success in 1968. Otherwise, you're gonna lose .
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 6:23 PM ET #16

    So your response is assignation? Way to engage in a maybe conversation. It is my opinion as well as the opinion of many talking heads in the left and right) that trump will not be given the nomination EVEN if he gets the delegate threshold. This is not a novel idea by me. Pay any attention and you will hear the same.

    This is not an anti trump attack by me. I am stating which I believe will happen and what more and more seems like will happen.

    I may be wrong. Time will tell.
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    So your response is assignation? Way to engage in a maybe conversation. It is my opinion as well as the opinion of many talking heads in the left and right) that trump will not be given the nomination EVEN if he gets the delegate threshold. This is not a novel idea by me. Pay any attention and you will hear the same.

    This is not an anti trump attack by me. I am stating which I believe will happen and what more and more seems like will happen.

    I may be wrong. Time will tell.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 8:22 PM ET #17

    It's interesting to see he violent mind of a trump supporter talking violence on display 
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    It's interesting to see he violent mind of a trump supporter talking violence on display 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 9:23 PM ET #18

    A vote for Trump now is essentially a vote for Hillary come November  
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    A vote for Trump now is essentially a vote for Hillary come November  
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 11:42 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    So your response is assignation? Way to engage in a maybe conversation. It is my opinion as well as the opinion of many talking heads in the left and right) that trump will not be given the nomination EVEN if he gets the delegate threshold. This is not a novel idea by me. Pay any attention and you will hear the same.This is not an anti trump attack by me. I am stating which I believe will happen and what more and more seems like will happen. I may be wrong. Time will tell.

    Sorry if you don't appreciate dark humor, but although I see an Open Convention also, I think the negativity from the cotporate media is affecting your judgement. You are expecting "without any doubt" that Trump will not get the nomination. Trump will have (if he continues to get 35% which is his low score from Wisconsin) he will have 1100 delegates. Cruz could have 900. You aresaying that Cruz will get the nomination ?? Or someone else? Is this because Trump says bad things that offend people? So Trump is 100 delegates away and he loses to a coalition organized against him. PLAUSIBLE. But if you are "so sure," then put your money where your mouth is and unload on Ted Cruz. Or bet the field. Don't be an idiot and just watch it happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    So your response is assignation? Way to engage in a maybe conversation. It is my opinion as well as the opinion of many talking heads in the left and right) that trump will not be given the nomination EVEN if he gets the delegate threshold. This is not a novel idea by me. Pay any attention and you will hear the same.This is not an anti trump attack by me. I am stating which I believe will happen and what more and more seems like will happen. I may be wrong. Time will tell.

    Sorry if you don't appreciate dark humor, but although I see an Open Convention also, I think the negativity from the cotporate media is affecting your judgement. You are expecting "without any doubt" that Trump will not get the nomination. Trump will have (if he continues to get 35% which is his low score from Wisconsin) he will have 1100 delegates. Cruz could have 900. You aresaying that Cruz will get the nomination ?? Or someone else? Is this because Trump says bad things that offend people? So Trump is 100 delegates away and he loses to a coalition organized against him. PLAUSIBLE. But if you are "so sure," then put your money where your mouth is and unload on Ted Cruz. Or bet the field. Don't be an idiot and just watch it happen.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 11:44 PM ET #20

    Ironic you telling someone else not be an idiot while you trump supporters keep talking violence 


    It's interesting to see the scary violent mind of a trump supporter 
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    Ironic you telling someone else not be an idiot while you trump supporters keep talking violence 


    It's interesting to see the scary violent mind of a trump supporter 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2016 - 12:07 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    A vote for Trump now is essentially a vote for Hillary come November  

    This is whats sad. People get all up in arms and protest someone like Trump where the worst thing you can say about him is something that's came out of his mouth, where as Hilary Clinton's ACTIONS are much worse. I would prefer Kasich. He seems like the most reasonable educated and moderate candidate. I think we need someone in the middle. Obama is as liberal as it gets (with the exception of Bernie) and Bush was very very conservative. We need more compromises. With Cruz or Hilary that will never happen. So as crazy as Trump sounds sometimes, I would gladly take him over them since Kasich isn't going to win. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    A vote for Trump now is essentially a vote for Hillary come November  

    This is whats sad. People get all up in arms and protest someone like Trump where the worst thing you can say about him is something that's came out of his mouth, where as Hilary Clinton's ACTIONS are much worse. I would prefer Kasich. He seems like the most reasonable educated and moderate candidate. I think we need someone in the middle. Obama is as liberal as it gets (with the exception of Bernie) and Bush was very very conservative. We need more compromises. With Cruz or Hilary that will never happen. So as crazy as Trump sounds sometimes, I would gladly take him over them since Kasich isn't going to win. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2016 - 12:46 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by StanThaCaddy:

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    A vote for Trump now is essentially a vote for Hillary come November  
    This is whats sad. People get all up in arms and protest someone like Trump where the worst thing you can say about him is something that's came out of his mouth, where as Hilary Clinton's ACTIONS are much worse. I would prefer Kasich. He seems like the most reasonable educated and moderate candidate. I think we need someone in the middle. Obama is as liberal as it gets (with the exception of Bernie) and Bush was very very conservative. We need more compromises. With Cruz or Hilary that will never happen. So as crazy as Trump sounds sometimes, I would gladly take him over them since Kasich isn't going to win.

    Voice of reason. New Yorkers always talk this way, and he is not a polished politician. Surely one of his advisors told him, " hey just be yourself out there..." But it is so unusual for a politician running for President to say things he does; doesn't help that SEC Super Tuesday starts things off pretty much, and these voters are blue collar. I think it's ridiculous that groups like Black Lives Matter get up in arms about perceptions about comments and the tones and attitudes. I think the best answer to David Duke isn't "I don't know who he is.." But rather " who cares about the KKK ? THEY ARE IRRELEVANT IN TODAYS MULTICULTURAL SOCIETY. They must have other reasons to support me, because I intend to haven't policies that favor one race over another. WHY ARE YOU EVEN WASTING MY TIME WITH THIS QUESTION?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanThaCaddy:

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:

    A vote for Trump now is essentially a vote for Hillary come November  
    This is whats sad. People get all up in arms and protest someone like Trump where the worst thing you can say about him is something that's came out of his mouth, where as Hilary Clinton's ACTIONS are much worse. I would prefer Kasich. He seems like the most reasonable educated and moderate candidate. I think we need someone in the middle. Obama is as liberal as it gets (with the exception of Bernie) and Bush was very very conservative. We need more compromises. With Cruz or Hilary that will never happen. So as crazy as Trump sounds sometimes, I would gladly take him over them since Kasich isn't going to win.

    Voice of reason. New Yorkers always talk this way, and he is not a polished politician. Surely one of his advisors told him, " hey just be yourself out there..." But it is so unusual for a politician running for President to say things he does; doesn't help that SEC Super Tuesday starts things off pretty much, and these voters are blue collar. I think it's ridiculous that groups like Black Lives Matter get up in arms about perceptions about comments and the tones and attitudes. I think the best answer to David Duke isn't "I don't know who he is.." But rather " who cares about the KKK ? THEY ARE IRRELEVANT IN TODAYS MULTICULTURAL SOCIETY. They must have other reasons to support me, because I intend to haven't policies that favor one race over another. WHY ARE YOU EVEN WASTING MY TIME WITH THIS QUESTION?"
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2016 - 12:54 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Again I am not sure what you are watching. My opinion of what will happen is not only CNN driven. It is all over the place. left and right channels, news outlets, talk shows etc... It will happen and I am willing to bet any dollar amount on it.

    If you think it will be Ryan, then you are lying that you pay attention to the "left and right channels" all over the media. Paul Ryan has stated in more than a dozen interviews he has "no intention of taking the nomination for my friend Ted Cruz;?under no circumstance will I seek the nomination, and I state this unequivocally ..." So Im going to stop you before you look like more of a idiot.
    Therefore it has to be Cruz. He is 14-1. Kasich is 25-1. Carson is 300-1. If you reject odds of 14-1 when you are so sure about this, and you DONTBET YOUR ONSTINCT, then you either have learned not to trust yourself, or you don't like money, or it is both-- you know you're an idiot exaggerator and you don't like money or don't know how to make it. Which is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:

    Again I am not sure what you are watching. My opinion of what will happen is not only CNN driven. It is all over the place. left and right channels, news outlets, talk shows etc... It will happen and I am willing to bet any dollar amount on it.

    If you think it will be Ryan, then you are lying that you pay attention to the "left and right channels" all over the media. Paul Ryan has stated in more than a dozen interviews he has "no intention of taking the nomination for my friend Ted Cruz;?under no circumstance will I seek the nomination, and I state this unequivocally ..." So Im going to stop you before you look like more of a idiot.
    Therefore it has to be Cruz. He is 14-1. Kasich is 25-1. Carson is 300-1. If you reject odds of 14-1 when you are so sure about this, and you DONTBET YOUR ONSTINCT, then you either have learned not to trust yourself, or you don't like money, or it is both-- you know you're an idiot exaggerator and you don't like money or don't know how to make it. Which is it?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2016 - 2:10 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:


    More Bubble gum chatter from the wanker

    +1


    Relax_dude,

    Relax dude 

    You seem to be really intensely trying super hard at your bubble gum chatter 


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    Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:


    More Bubble gum chatter from the wanker

    +1


    Relax_dude,

    Relax dude 

    You seem to be really intensely trying super hard at your bubble gum chatter 


     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 10, 2016 - 2:34 AM ET #25

    Don't feel bad DL I guess I give alot of Bible gum chatter as well.....lolol
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    Don't feel bad DL I guess I give alot of Bible gum chatter as well.....lolol
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