back to an endless Republicans war so 30 years in Iran over or under

Markwayne Mullin: "War is ugly. It smells bad. If anybody has ever been there and been able to smell the war and taste it, and feel it in your nostrils, it's something you'll never forget. And fortunately you have President Hegseth -- or Secretary Hegseth ... President Hegseth has been there"

How does this fucker speak to the smell/taste of war?

This peckerhead has never served in the armed forces. He's just another GOP know nothing wannabe waste of flesh. 

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@THEMUGG

 Think over your comment and then ask WHY this exists? Why are there chants and bad feelings towards America, do you care or are you just oblivious to cause and effect?

The reason why much of the region dislikes the US is that we support their direct enemy who has in their writings and construct to obliterate and destroy all who are not of their faith and that is Israel. So given that we are the hammer behind Israel and we have supported every move they have made, we took land from others in the region and gave it to Israel WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT and are the heavy to making the lives of anyone not of Israel to be a never ending fight, do you think THAT might be why they do not support and love the US in some way you agree with?

I get it completely that their view is we are against their beliefs and against their existence and we support the death and destruction of their culture and life. I can fully understand why they dislike the US in the way they do.

Are you just unaware of the impacts of our decision to blindly and always follow and support Israel and that these decisions have IMPACTS?

United nations condemn US, Israel and Iran military strikes.  Under international law, war is illegal except in self defense or when authorized by United nations.  No US ally supports US unpopular war except for Israel.  Trump is making the same mistake as Bush in pursuing an unnecessary war.  Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

@wallstreetcappers

 Again, you dodge the real question.

 Iran is the problem. They have been the major source of terrorism, & are hellbent on destroying all those that don't believe as they do. If you can't admit that then that's a you problem.

If Iran is a lousy place, it sounds like their people probably want help from the US and our allies, right? Why continue to operate and live in a lousy place? While not perfect, the US does appear to have some of the best democracy, stability and human rights (no matter what some posters in here claim as they despise the US it seems). 

"then we would nuke the Saudis..."  Why would the US nuke the Saudis when they appear to be propping up your stock market? Seems counter intuitive, no? Where have all the rather large investments into the US come of late (besides the FED money printer)? The Saudis are buying our greed and are wiggling their way in. Just look at JPM and EA Sports...You think the US is going to go after the Saudis when they seem to be the only active countries keeping this US bubble going? 

@THEMUGG

 Dodge nothing I am saying Iran is a small fry at BEST using your logic. They are not a threat to the US but lets limp along with your logic and see where you want it to go. Are we going after all countries that are involved and have connections to terrorism? Yes or no? If yes then who is on that list and why is Iran deserving of war given that they have NEVER threatened the US and do not have the capacity to do so? If NO then why are we there in the first place?

Are we concerned with abuses of human rights, is this the measure for invasion and war? yes or no? If yes where does Iran rank in the world scene with abuses to human rights and who is as or more deserving? If NO (which all of these are NO btw but you can act like it is) then why are we using that as rationalization?

Are we concerned with nuclear capabilities to the development of weapons that can reach and harm the US? yes or no? If YES how does Iran rank with regards to this category and why are we going after a small fry when there are massive whales out there who are much more of a risk and could harm the US?

Why is it so difficult for you and your side to stop the nonsense and just come out and admit what everyone knows, this is NOT about terrorism its not about a threat to the US it is not about nukes it is not about human rights...it is only about a SINGLE THING and that is Israel. This entire enterprise is to support and forward Israel and their deep rooted motivation to destroy their enemies.

Anything else is Wag the Dog nonsense...

@BigGame90

 How has Iraq turned out with this flabby stupid human rights false flag? Nothing but complete destruction of the entire region and that includes places like Pakistan as well and Afghanistan would change ANYTHING with regards to human rights.

That dog does not hunt and you know it. Are you unaware that the Saudis are terrorists and have some of the worst human rights abuses in the world? Hey who cares as you say they are propping up the stock market.

Lovely logic..

Terrorism, huh?

How about blowing up fishing boats? Is that terrorism?

How about kidnapping the president of another country & then bombing said country? Is that terrorism?

How about capturing cargo ships & not returning the contents to the rightful owner? Is that terrorism? 

How about bombing 7 countries in the span of a year? Is that terrorism? 

How about throwing Americans in jail because we don't believe as you do? Has this not terrorized American citizens across the country?

This administrations attempt to put the Trump-Epstein files, the raising costs of goods, the absolute failure of tariffs all on the backburner isn't going to work.

We'll remember everything in November.

follow the 

I haven't been to any of those countries to see the destruction. Have you? 

@BigGame90

 Oy so if I havent been there then it is like it doesnt happen even though others report and agencies report then if I havent interviewed people then its all smoke per your analysis?

Following the money is exactly correct, the money and power is Israel and they own Trump and we can see how that spend has paid off with their zionist narrative.

Iraq is like going to Disneyland I hear...everyone is free the cities are clean and the air is crisp the streets are paved in gold and there is no better place for someone to wish to live. I hear the same for Pakistan, for Afghanistan and Kuwait and that Gaza will be a big beautiful resort in the next six months.

Why even reply when it lacks any value or thought?

@wallstreetcappers

If it's on the internet, it's true. Because nobody wants to change mind sets and narratives so everything on the internet is 100% true. If you want the actual truth, go talk to people. Not some people on here tho. 

What I find odd is that the media, and essentially no one is mentioning, that the people of Iran want their Shahanshah back...the family that was their prior to Ayatollah taking over...although the main Shah is no longer living, his son, Reza Pahlavi, is and that is who the people of Iran want to lead them..that's who the people of Iran want back in power so not sure why this is not being discussed or talked about more and why it is being stressed that there is no plan...The US doesn't need a plan, but the people of Iran do and it appears the talk is they have who they want to lead them, but the question is, how do unarmed people take over people who are resistant to this change and who are weaponized....Reza currently lives in the US in Washington DC no less, so everyone needs to listen to the people and find a way to give the people what they want now that this has happened....

This information is in places if you really want to know and all you have to do is look for it, but I am also getting this information from a group of Iranians themselves whom I have a very close relationship with and whom them and their families are living in Iran and who has been going through this terror and knows what the people want....this is what the protestors wanted and that should be the focus of who goes in to the lead the Iranian people once the dust has settled....If Reza Pahlavi is not installed as the leader, it may turn into more chaos.... 

This cannot be what you really believe I mean for you to openly deny reality by deflecting to say if I have not seen it then it does not exist is Trump style lunacy. What else do you have as to discussion outside if you have not seen it then it is not true?

@ABooksNightmare

 How does this HELP outside pushing a GOP war narrative? What examples of HELP can you give where we start a war and then locals are helped? How has Iraq been doing or Afghanistan, these are two of our most recent WAR actions and sorry but even though your pal says its a wonderful place I just do not agree it is so.

The cultural disease is not due to a single leader, how will taking out a single leader and destroying the local currency help those who are as you say are seeking help? People live there they need jobs and an economic base they need a currency which has value and they need to earn a living. How has Iraq done since we took out the bad guy? It is worse...you turned a dictator who stopped the true problem from getting out of control and that is RELIGION. How does taking out a leader change the dynamic about the religious poison there and do you actually think anything will change if you just remove one person and do zero in fact do HARM to the actual country in the process?

Lol @ the suggestion that this is a Dems v Repubs issue. Nope, depending on the polls you view, 59-70% of Americans don’t support this. In fact, the Repubs in this forum argued repeatedly for no more foreign wars. You know, just like Donnie and JD!

Surprise! They lied again! 

The liars will lose BIGLY on Election Day in November, and then it’s off to impeachment season! 

The joke is your contention that libs are going to be voted out, I think you are going to be quite sad this fall.

The liars and sadists and racists would have you believe that Kim Jong Trump enjoys a 99% approval rating. 

and we are off, Iran targets gulf states across the region depleting anti middle systems us aligned countries are ordering more trump even admitted this will escalate to regional conflict that will last years .... most ignorant people, but good learning curve for America so how long does this conflict continue many civilians perish and how much destruction to civil governance and peaceful society is now uncertain 

so kill a cleric start ww3 and sell weapons until there nothing left .... dump is in his full glory the ratings are huge and he is center of controversy awesome day for him may deflect the Epstein mess for a moment 

It is amazing that there is so much bad information and assumptions in here when things are fairly easy to verify.

It reminds me of this quote that certainly applies here:

“Do y’all remember before the internet, that people thought the cause of stupidity was the lack of access to information?”

“Yeah.  It wasn’t that.”

Countries with the Worst Human Rights Conditions (in approximate order)

1. North Korea – Extremely repressive totalitarian state with pervasive political prison camps, torture, execution, forced labor, severe movement restrictions, and no political freedoms. Consistently ranked among the worst in the world for human rights. 
2. Iran – Systematic suppression of dissent; mass executions; political imprisonment; violent crackdowns on protests; restrictions on media and women’s rights; reported arbitrary arrests widely. 
3. Afghanistan (especially under Taliban rule) – Brutal restrictions on women and girls, executions without fair trials, suppression of speech and assembly, and widespread abuses of minorities and vulnerable groups. 
4. Yemen – Prolonged conflict with grave violations: indiscriminate attacks on civilians, child recruitment, displacement, and severe humanitarian suffering in a country lacking functioning protections. 
5. South Sudan – Post-civil war instability marked by ethnic violence, mass displacement, child soldiers, targeted killings, and a near-total breakdown of rule of law and civil protections. 
6. Sudan – Large-scale atrocities including war crimes, ethnic cleansing in Darfur, mass displacement, famine conditions, and systemic violence by multiple armed groups. 
7. Myanmar – Military junta’s continuing repression of ethnic minorities (especially Rohingya), extrajudicial killings, mass detention, and restrictions on basic freedoms. 
8. Syria – Prolonged civil conflict with widespread government and non-state abuses: torture, unlawful detention, mass civilian casualties, and severe constraints on rights. 
9. China – Repression of political dissent; internment and forced “re-education” of ethnic minorities (e.g., Uyghurs); censorship; limitations on freedom of religion and expression. 
10. Egypt – Widespread arbitrary detention, torture, restrictions on freedoms of expression and assembly, and crackdowns on civil society organizations.

Guess what country is not on that list.

“Israel’s writings and construct are to obliterate and destroy all who are not of their faith”

This part is false.

Israel is:

• A Jewish-majority state
• A parliamentary democracy
• A country with Muslim, Christian, Druze, and other minorities who are citizens

The foundational political documents of Israel do not call for destroying all non-person. While some extremist religious or nationalist groups (as in many countries) may hold exclusionary or supremacist views, those do not represent official state doctrine.

Also:

• Israel has diplomatic relations with multiple Muslim-majority countries (e.g., United Arab Emirates, Morocco, Bahrain).
• About 20% of Israel’s citizens are Arab (mostly Muslim).

That does not mean there are no serious criticisms of Israeli government policies — especially regarding Palestinians — but the claim that Israel’s doctrine is to destroy all non-believers is not supported by mainstream historical or legal documentation.

Guess who does openly support this ideology.

 Before:

• Iran was ruled by the Shah (monarchy) — Mohammad Reza Pahlavi — who had strong executive power.

• The Shah promoted secular modernization and Western alliances, and was closely allied with the U.S. and other Western powers.

• Political dissent was often repressed by the secret police (SAVAK), and there were few meaningful democratic freedoms.

After:

• The monarchy was overthrown by the Islamic Revolution, and Iran became an Islamic Republic with a theocratic leadership dominated by religious scholars.

• Political power shifted to clerical institutions (like the Supreme Leader and Guardian Council) and religious authorities.

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