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serious question
Anyplace to get odds on Hillary not participating in next debate?
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#3
This is not a bad bet here as hillary is so far ahead and based on the shift in odds after the second debate it appears that she won. So after winning two debates, it might be good strategy to just hang it up as Deceptive Donald was exposed on mulitple levels in the first two debates.
There really is no need to for a third with the score 2-0. Hilllary has won the debates and her participating in a third leaves a risk for it to be 2-1 and tarnish her dominance on trump. It might be prudent strategy for Hillary to skip the last debate.
Good angle here considering the reality of the debates and what happened. Now if you believed trump won both debates than this bet makes no sense what so ever as Hillary would be in trump's position fighting for his life as his campaign is going down in flames after losing both debates. But this is a good example of political betting being about reality and not fantasyland.
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#4
exactly DL, if she's allegedly up 9-10 pts come debate time it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Not saying it will happen, but you can be assured her war room is doing a pros/cons analysis of such a move
not having to answer to all the Wikileaks showing systemic corruption within her party, campaign, and media is something they would love to be able to do, we'll see, just curious if their were odds on this possibility
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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
This is not a bad bet here as hillary is so far ahead and based on the shift in odds after the second debate it appears that she won. So after winning two debates, it might be good strategy to just hang it up as Deceptive Donald was exposed on mulitple levels in the first two debates.
This is not a bad bet here as hillary is so far ahead and based on the shift in odds after the second debate it appears that she won. So after winning two debates, it might be good strategy to just hang it up as Deceptive Donald was exposed on mulitple levels in the first two debates.
There really is no need to for a third with the score 2-0. Hilllary has won the debates and her participating in a third leaves a risk for it to be 2-1 and tarnish her dominance on trump. It might be prudent strategy for Hillary to skip the last debate.
Good angle here considering the reality of the debates and what happened. Now if you believed trump won both debates than this bet makes no sense what so ever as Hillary would be in trump's position fighting for his life as his campaign is going down in flames after losing both debates. But this is a good example of political betting being about reality and not fantasyland.
I Think Hillary will show up as ruthless as ever just to drive in the last nail in the coffin of Trumps campaign
Gotta go pee!
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Good angle here considering the reality of the debates and what happened. Now if you believed trump won both debates than this bet makes no sense what so ever as Hillary would be in trump's position fighting for his life as his campaign is going down in flames after losing both debates. But this is a good example of political betting being about reality and not fantasyland.
Gotta disagree with you on this DL. Though we usually see eye to eye, I think this is a terrible angle. Not showing up is a sign of fear and weakness. I agree that she has nothing to gain by a third debate, but skipping it would halt her growing momentum. Practically speaking, losing the debate would be less damaging than skipping it IMO.
Thus, I will offer TILTO +500 on a hundred dollar paypal bet for this event. Hit me up if this interests you Tilt. Thanks!
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i haven't seen it, but i don't like this bet at all. hillary has been through these debates time and time again. she can do them on cruise control. and that's all she needs to finish this off, cruise control. the last thing she needs to do is something unorthodox. i would put skipping a debate in the unorthodox category. also, it would be seen as a sign of weakness and the last thing someone with a now 87% chance of winning should be doing is giving off a sign of weakness.
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also, i would expect this debate to get pretty low ratings for a couple of reasons. the first one was exciting because it was such a novelty. the second one had potential because trump had started his tailspin and people were hoping for some fireworks but it was pretty uneventful so people looking for some action came away disappointed. the last one always has less interest because it gets old but i'm not sure what the draw would be anyway, especially after the last one was anti-climactic. so, hillary has even less to worry about. even if she has a bad debate, how many people are going to see it and how many people are going to change their minds as a result?
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I have HRC winning and I'll give you 20/1. The lost in polls number not showing up will outweigh any number lost in losing the debate. Sorry but this does not make sense politically.
I believe she's in more major debates than any politicians ever. She can't do any worse than Trump in #1 and his number only took that big of a dump is bc of Alicia Manchado post-debate attacks and the tax release.
I believe she's in more major debates than any politicians ever. She can't do any worse than Trump in #1 and his number only took that big of a dump is bc of Alicia Manchado post-debate attacks and the tax release.
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
i haven't seen it, but i don't like this bet at all. hillary has been through these debates time and time again. she can do them on cruise control. and that's all she needs to finish this off, cruise control. the last thing she needs to do is something unorthodox. i would put skipping a debate in the unorthodox category. also, it would be seen as a sign of weakness and the last thing someone with a now 87% chance of winning should be doing is giving off a sign of weakness.
i haven't seen it, but i don't like this bet at all. hillary has been through these debates time and time again. she can do them on cruise control. and that's all she needs to finish this off, cruise control. the last thing she needs to do is something unorthodox. i would put skipping a debate in the unorthodox category. also, it would be seen as a sign of weakness and the last thing someone with a now 87% chance of winning should be doing is giving off a sign of weakness.
EXACTLY! An unorthodox move that has plenty of downside risk.
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Quote Originally Posted by gmitran:
I have HRC winning and I'll give you 20/1. The lost in polls number not showing up will outweigh any number lost in losing the debate. Sorry but this does not make sense politically.
I believe she's in more major debates than any politicians ever. She can't do any worse than Trump in #1 and his number only took that big of a dump is bc of Alicia Manchado post-debate attacks and the tax release.
I have HRC winning and I'll give you 20/1. The lost in polls number not showing up will outweigh any number lost in losing the debate. Sorry but this does not make sense politically.
I believe she's in more major debates than any politicians ever. She can't do any worse than Trump in #1 and his number only took that big of a dump is bc of Alicia Manchado post-debate attacks and the tax release.
Well Tilt...........gmitran just put my 5/1 offer to shame. 20-1 has to give you something to think about.
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Quote Originally Posted by Inyourlife16:
Well Tilt...........gmitran just put my 5/1 offer to shame. 20-1 has to give you something to think about.
I didn't read all of your post, other wise I would have gone 10-1. LOL
Strictly from winning 2016 race, then this makes some sense, but not for governing after (if she wins, don't want to jinx myself) and 2020.
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I also do not like the bet if it were available.
Clinton is a mean, nasty, derisive politician and I am sure she has some intentions of putting Trump in his place and I also imagine she will want to smash him in the final polls.
Trump decided to play the underhanded personal card and I dont see Clinton sitting the 4th quarter here and not participating.
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Clinton already has a likability issue. Her obliterating trump in yet another debate as a means of punishing him for his ignorance and stupidity, only makes good tv but in the end I think she will look like the experienced educated candidate toying with the imbicile as he continues to pursue her all angry and emotional with lies and character defamation.
She needs to high and when trump goes low and spare this man his dignity as he has clearly screwed himself with his out of control emotions and anger, so why march him out for yet another round of him shooting himself repeatedly in the foot and then blaming someone else or saying it was rigged.
Perhaps Hillary can show trump some compassion and take the high road
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
I also do not like the bet if it were available.
I also do not like the bet if it were available.
Clinton is a mean, nasty, derisive politician and I am sure she has some intentions of putting Trump in his place and I also imagine she will want to smash him in the final polls.
Trump decided to play the underhanded personal card and I dont see Clinton sitting the 4th quarter here and not participating.
Exactly, especially after hearing that Trump will put her in jail if he gets elected. She is probably going to pound him if there is any chance presenting for her to grab. This will get nasty, WSC.
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Tilt........you are looking for the wrong prop according to this article. You want to be looking for odds on Trump skipping the final debate.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-on-the-commission-for-presidential-debates-it%E2%80%99s-a-%E2%80%98rigged-deal%E2%80%99-and-%E2%80%98i%E2%80%99m-done%E2%80%99/ar-AAiSgd1?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
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one other factor which is relevant to either party dropping out. the thrd debate is moderated by some foxnews guy. for hillary, if she backed out, iut would be worse as people would say she's backing out because she's afraid of foxnews. for trump, he might see it as a better situation for him.
i have no idea whether this moderator will be any better or worse than any other but obviously foxnews has a reputation and i don't think that reputation suggests either one should drop out.
i have no idea whether this moderator will be any better or worse than any other but obviously foxnews has a reputation and i don't think that reputation suggests either one should drop out.
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#20
Fox debate moderator Wallace,is a registered Democrat and loves to tick people off..in 2006 Bill Clinton interview the fmr. President went off
on Wallace for about 15 minutes, nonstop and Clinton accused him in the interview of having a 'little smirk on your face"..
Look for Wallace to get to one of the candidates during the debate..
Look for Wallace to get to one of the candidates during the debate..
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:
one other factor which is relevant to either party dropping out. the thrd debate is moderated by some foxnews guy. for hillary, if she backed out, iut would be worse as people would say she's backing out because she's afraid of foxnews. for trump, he might see it as a better situation for him.
i have no idea whether this moderator will be any better or worse than any other but obviously foxnews has a reputation and i don't think that reputation suggests either one should drop out.
one other factor which is relevant to either party dropping out. the thrd debate is moderated by some foxnews guy. for hillary, if she backed out, iut would be worse as people would say she's backing out because she's afraid of foxnews. for trump, he might see it as a better situation for him.
i have no idea whether this moderator will be any better or worse than any other but obviously foxnews has a reputation and i don't think that reputation suggests either one should drop out.
No she would just be Making the same claim that and grabbing tonthe same crutch that trump and trump supporters do about biased media with Fox News biased media.
That is one huge problem for trump and trump supporters who try to use things like this in that they don't see it both ways and in the end look completely foolish.
Like if trump were to say all the women who are finally telling their real life stories are liars than why would he then try to bring up things with bill Clinton if women are liars. But for trump and trumpnsupporters this is a clear disconnect with reality to say that women that tell their real life experiences of Donald trump are 100% false and they are all liars but then they would have us believe that anything concerning a woman with bill Clinton must be 100% true.
This is a fundamental problem for trump and trump fanboys
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