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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 8:07 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    WV has gone Red for the last four Presidential elections.  This endorsement neither changes the Electoral College math nor enhances a Trump bettor's chance of cashing a winning ticket.

    So the migration we are seeing is from red to blue.

    Ok this makes sense now when it's based on reality.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    WV has gone Red for the last four Presidential elections.  This endorsement neither changes the Electoral College math nor enhances a Trump bettor's chance of cashing a winning ticket.

    So the migration we are seeing is from red to blue.

    Ok this makes sense now when it's based on reality.


     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 9:31 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Trump is a cheating opportunist, that might be why he is so popular with the under-informed moronic public.


    I am very interested in what you think you mean here?
    Of course he is an opportunist. Most successful people are. 
    What do you mean by cheating?
    No way that many people are 'under-informed and moronic'. So, are you just calling them that because you don't like Trump?  Which I get, because no liberals like him. But is that really helpful to the discussion?  Certainly not my guy. But for sure choose him over Hillary.   
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Trump is a cheating opportunist, that might be why he is so popular with the under-informed moronic public.


    I am very interested in what you think you mean here?
    Of course he is an opportunist. Most successful people are. 
    What do you mean by cheating?
    No way that many people are 'under-informed and moronic'. So, are you just calling them that because you don't like Trump?  Which I get, because no liberals like him. But is that really helpful to the discussion?  Certainly not my guy. But for sure choose him over Hillary.   
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 9:38 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Nice jab SS...you are very good at that.

    Am I elite? No..

    Most people are too busy or disinterested in researching anything that takes time and effort. It is the function of a busy society, a hyper media and a lack of caring.

    The fact that an openly abusive, shallow ideals guy like Trump got ANY votes is a real slap in the face of our society. How could anyone think he has a clue about what to do or how to be successful? 

    The issue is the lack of solid repub candidates, and democrat especially in this election. How these candidates are the best either side can muster is a sad sad commentary of our political system.
    I agree people are too busy or lazy to research on their own. 
    Of course he knows how to be successful. There is hardly any way to dispute this---unless you couch it by saying, 'in politics'.  But he knows how to be successful. The hope would be that he would surround himself with good political advisers to help him get things done. Don't you agree that he would attempt to do this?  The obvious flip side is to compare Hillary and her perceived successes.  
    There also has been much made about how deep and youthful the republican field was in comparison to the democratic field.  A much more in depth pool and varied.  Hard to argue this as well. 
    It just seems too many democrats hate Trump---so look for reasons to doubt him.  But those same ones LOVE Sanders. 
    And republicans hate Trump because he is not a classical party guy. 
    People of all ilks are fed up with business as usual---including well-informed folks. 
    Where do you disagree and exactly why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    Nice jab SS...you are very good at that.

    Am I elite? No..

    Most people are too busy or disinterested in researching anything that takes time and effort. It is the function of a busy society, a hyper media and a lack of caring.

    The fact that an openly abusive, shallow ideals guy like Trump got ANY votes is a real slap in the face of our society. How could anyone think he has a clue about what to do or how to be successful? 

    The issue is the lack of solid repub candidates, and democrat especially in this election. How these candidates are the best either side can muster is a sad sad commentary of our political system.
    I agree people are too busy or lazy to research on their own. 
    Of course he knows how to be successful. There is hardly any way to dispute this---unless you couch it by saying, 'in politics'.  But he knows how to be successful. The hope would be that he would surround himself with good political advisers to help him get things done. Don't you agree that he would attempt to do this?  The obvious flip side is to compare Hillary and her perceived successes.  
    There also has been much made about how deep and youthful the republican field was in comparison to the democratic field.  A much more in depth pool and varied.  Hard to argue this as well. 
    It just seems too many democrats hate Trump---so look for reasons to doubt him.  But those same ones LOVE Sanders. 
    And republicans hate Trump because he is not a classical party guy. 
    People of all ilks are fed up with business as usual---including well-informed folks. 
    Where do you disagree and exactly why?
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 9:45 PM ET #54

    05/04/16 ....Clinton's @TheBriefing account retweeted a message from Warren posted late Tuesday night, in which she wrote, "There's more enthusiasm for @realDonaldTrump among leaders of the K-K-K than leaders of the political party he now controls."

    Here we go ..Hillary and the Democrats are playing the K-K-K racist card again.....................sad..so sad.    It won't work this time..

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    05/04/16 ....Clinton's @TheBriefing account retweeted a message from Warren posted late Tuesday night, in which she wrote, "There's more enthusiasm for @realDonaldTrump among leaders of the K-K-K than leaders of the political party he now controls."

    Here we go ..Hillary and the Democrats are playing the K-K-K racist card again.....................sad..so sad.    It won't work this time..

     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 10:18 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:


    I am very interested in what you think you mean here?
    Of course he is an opportunist. Most successful people are. 
    What do you mean by cheating?
    No way that many people are 'under-informed and moronic'. So, are you just calling them that because you don't like Trump?  Which I get, because no liberals like him. But is that really helpful to the discussion?  Certainly not my guy. But for sure choose him over Hillary.   

    Yes I would like clarification also. 

    Because it's not the public that has been exposed as under-informed and moronic,  it is just the results of he GOP primary and can't be extrapolated upon the entire country. 

    Raiders you also clearly state that no liberals like him, which basically disproves the whole premise of this thread that you would have liberal dems migrating to trump. 

    Makes you wonder about the whole premise of this thread as being a complete lie or at best manufactured fiction.  But guess we have come to expect lies and manufacturer fiction from the op.

    Well done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:


    I am very interested in what you think you mean here?
    Of course he is an opportunist. Most successful people are. 
    What do you mean by cheating?
    No way that many people are 'under-informed and moronic'. So, are you just calling them that because you don't like Trump?  Which I get, because no liberals like him. But is that really helpful to the discussion?  Certainly not my guy. But for sure choose him over Hillary.   

    Yes I would like clarification also. 

    Because it's not the public that has been exposed as under-informed and moronic,  it is just the results of he GOP primary and can't be extrapolated upon the entire country. 

    Raiders you also clearly state that no liberals like him, which basically disproves the whole premise of this thread that you would have liberal dems migrating to trump. 

    Makes you wonder about the whole premise of this thread as being a complete lie or at best manufactured fiction.  But guess we have come to expect lies and manufacturer fiction from the op.

    Well done
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 10:37 PM ET #56

    Post # 55 evidence of what happens to someone who was given risperdal at a young age .......

    ROLF
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    Post # 55 evidence of what happens to someone who was given risperdal at a young age .......

    ROLF
     
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    Posted: May. 5, 2016 - 10:43 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Yes I would like clarification also. 

    Because it's not the public that has been exposed as under-informed and moronic,  it is just the results of he GOP primary and can't be extrapolated upon the entire country. 

    Raiders you also clearly state that no liberals like him, which basically disproves the whole premise of this thread that you would have liberal dems migrating to trump. 

    Makes you wonder about the whole premise of this thread as being a complete lie or at best manufactured fiction.  But guess we have come to expect lies and manufacturer fiction from the op.

    Well done

    What hole have you been hiding in lately? 

    You don't think the other side was moronic last election cycle for electing O mostly because he would make history?

    I got news for you pumkin, most of this country is uninformed about the true issues that the parties stand for.

    Most people ( you included ) only go for the low hanging fruit. You think the GOP really does have a war on minorities and women.

    I'm conservative because I believe in protecting those that can't protect themselves. And because I think the government shouldn't get involved in every aspect of a person's life.

    I see the government as little else than a necessary governing body that is rife with ineptitude and waste and thus should be as little as possible.

    Political correctness is one of the reasons Trump does so well. 

    It's too bad that everything is black and white for you and no gray area. Sometimes there's a little bit of truth in two explanations.
    The OP didn't fabricate anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Yes I would like clarification also. 

    Because it's not the public that has been exposed as under-informed and moronic,  it is just the results of he GOP primary and can't be extrapolated upon the entire country. 

    Raiders you also clearly state that no liberals like him, which basically disproves the whole premise of this thread that you would have liberal dems migrating to trump. 

    Makes you wonder about the whole premise of this thread as being a complete lie or at best manufactured fiction.  But guess we have come to expect lies and manufacturer fiction from the op.

    Well done

    What hole have you been hiding in lately? 

    You don't think the other side was moronic last election cycle for electing O mostly because he would make history?

    I got news for you pumkin, most of this country is uninformed about the true issues that the parties stand for.

    Most people ( you included ) only go for the low hanging fruit. You think the GOP really does have a war on minorities and women.

    I'm conservative because I believe in protecting those that can't protect themselves. And because I think the government shouldn't get involved in every aspect of a person's life.

    I see the government as little else than a necessary governing body that is rife with ineptitude and waste and thus should be as little as possible.

    Political correctness is one of the reasons Trump does so well. 

    It's too bad that everything is black and white for you and no gray area. Sometimes there's a little bit of truth in two explanations.
    The OP didn't fabricate anything.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2016 - 12:09 AM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Trump is a cheating opportunist, that might be why he is so popular with the under-informed moronic public.

    Drive by posting with an emoticon.  Starting to post like dl.  Please explain by cheating opportunist.  You come off as very condescending and talk down to anyone who supports Trump.  You don't like him we get it.  The Trump act is getting old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Trump is a cheating opportunist, that might be why he is so popular with the under-informed moronic public.

    Drive by posting with an emoticon.  Starting to post like dl.  Please explain by cheating opportunist.  You come off as very condescending and talk down to anyone who supports Trump.  You don't like him we get it.  The Trump act is getting old.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2016 - 12:11 AM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Post # 55 evidence of what happens to someone who was given risperdal at a young age .......

    ROLF
    He actually thinks he's a psychiatrist.  Can you imagine trying to get mental help from dl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Post # 55 evidence of what happens to someone who was given risperdal at a young age .......

    ROLF
    He actually thinks he's a psychiatrist.  Can you imagine trying to get mental help from dl?
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2016 - 1:10 AM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:


    I am very interested in what you think you mean here?
    Of course he is an opportunist. Most successful people are. 
    What do you mean by cheating?
    No way that many people are 'under-informed and moronic'. So, are you just calling them that because you don't like Trump?  Which I get, because no liberals like him. But is that really helpful to the discussion?  Certainly not my guy. But for sure choose him over Hillary.   

    I mean what I said..

    His past is riddled with dishonesty and questionable dealings from his real estate school to the golf course he was involved with in Ireland (I think it was Ireland) to the most recent humorous article about him openly cheating in his golf game.

    Nothing about Trump is on the up and up to me..he takes too many risks and has too many failures to even think he isnt a massive cheater, especially behind closed doors.

    And to whomever said the public is moronic for voting Obama twice, I suggest that this is a function of the repeated failure of the republican party to present a candidate in the last series of elections worth a crap. McCain and Romney??? So the best your side can do is McCain and crazy lady, cheating job cutting money hiding Romney and a guy like Trump/Cruz/etc etc this round?

    It is no wonder that Hilary and Obama are successful, the competition is awful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:


    I am very interested in what you think you mean here?
    Of course he is an opportunist. Most successful people are. 
    What do you mean by cheating?
    No way that many people are 'under-informed and moronic'. So, are you just calling them that because you don't like Trump?  Which I get, because no liberals like him. But is that really helpful to the discussion?  Certainly not my guy. But for sure choose him over Hillary.   

    I mean what I said..

    His past is riddled with dishonesty and questionable dealings from his real estate school to the golf course he was involved with in Ireland (I think it was Ireland) to the most recent humorous article about him openly cheating in his golf game.

    Nothing about Trump is on the up and up to me..he takes too many risks and has too many failures to even think he isnt a massive cheater, especially behind closed doors.

    And to whomever said the public is moronic for voting Obama twice, I suggest that this is a function of the repeated failure of the republican party to present a candidate in the last series of elections worth a crap. McCain and Romney??? So the best your side can do is McCain and crazy lady, cheating job cutting money hiding Romney and a guy like Trump/Cruz/etc etc this round?

    It is no wonder that Hilary and Obama are successful, the competition is awful.


     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2016 - 1:35 AM ET #61

    Wall, I think you could benefit from watching the Romney documentary that was on Netflix. I think it would change your mind a little about him. 

    For starters, Romney thinks like you do regarding Trump.
    He correctly put Obama in his place in the debates regarding Russia and Putin only to have O mock him for saying it. 

    Romney inherited a horrible, hot mess with the 2002 Olympic games in Utah and used his charm and wit and turned that hot mess into a very respectable success story.

    Our country missed a huge opportunity by not electing Romney. I really wish you would take the time to watch the documentary though.
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    Wall, I think you could benefit from watching the Romney documentary that was on Netflix. I think it would change your mind a little about him. 

    For starters, Romney thinks like you do regarding Trump.
    He correctly put Obama in his place in the debates regarding Russia and Putin only to have O mock him for saying it. 

    Romney inherited a horrible, hot mess with the 2002 Olympic games in Utah and used his charm and wit and turned that hot mess into a very respectable success story.

    Our country missed a huge opportunity by not electing Romney. I really wish you would take the time to watch the documentary though.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2016 - 1:56 AM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    I mean what I said..

    His past is riddled with dishonesty and questionable dealings from his real estate school to the golf course he was involved with in Ireland (I think it was Ireland) to the most recent humorous article about him openly cheating in his golf game.

    Nothing about Trump is on the up and up to me..he takes too many risks and has too many failures to even think he isnt a massive cheater, especially behind closed doors.

    And to whomever said the public is moronic for voting Obama twice, I suggest that this is a function of the repeated failure of the republican party to present a candidate in the last series of elections worth a crap. McCain and Romney??? So the best your side can do is McCain and crazy lady, cheating job cutting money hiding Romney and a guy like Trump/Cruz/etc etc this round?

    It is no wonder that Hilary and Obama are successful, the competition is awful.


    Ok. Wasn't referring to his post. Just yours.  
    So nothing substantial.  Just because he is a risk taker and a success---he has to be a cheat?  Hard for me to point blank draw that conclusion on anyone.  Then it sounds pretty lame to me. Could be a mixture of sour grapes, jealousy, or just an excuse to take shots at someone you disagree with. 
    How is taking risks seen as bad?  That is how businessmen succeed---as do people in most walks of life that reach the elite level. 
    Read most pundits.  They saw the field in a much different light than you do.  
    As always, everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Just would be nice for it to at least seem to be based on something substantial.  Otherwise, it just seems bitter and uninformed. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    I mean what I said..

    His past is riddled with dishonesty and questionable dealings from his real estate school to the golf course he was involved with in Ireland (I think it was Ireland) to the most recent humorous article about him openly cheating in his golf game.

    Nothing about Trump is on the up and up to me..he takes too many risks and has too many failures to even think he isnt a massive cheater, especially behind closed doors.

    And to whomever said the public is moronic for voting Obama twice, I suggest that this is a function of the repeated failure of the republican party to present a candidate in the last series of elections worth a crap. McCain and Romney??? So the best your side can do is McCain and crazy lady, cheating job cutting money hiding Romney and a guy like Trump/Cruz/etc etc this round?

    It is no wonder that Hilary and Obama are successful, the competition is awful.


    Ok. Wasn't referring to his post. Just yours.  
    So nothing substantial.  Just because he is a risk taker and a success---he has to be a cheat?  Hard for me to point blank draw that conclusion on anyone.  Then it sounds pretty lame to me. Could be a mixture of sour grapes, jealousy, or just an excuse to take shots at someone you disagree with. 
    How is taking risks seen as bad?  That is how businessmen succeed---as do people in most walks of life that reach the elite level. 
    Read most pundits.  They saw the field in a much different light than you do.  
    As always, everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Just would be nice for it to at least seem to be based on something substantial.  Otherwise, it just seems bitter and uninformed. 
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2016 - 4:09 AM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    What hole have you been hiding in lately? 

    You don't think the other side was moronic last election cycle for electing O mostly because he would make history?

    I got news for you pumkin, most of this country is uninformed about the true issues that the parties stand for.

    Most people ( you included ) only go for the low hanging fruit. You think the GOP really does have a war on minorities and women.

    I'm conservative because I believe in protecting those that can't protect themselves. And because I think the government shouldn't get involved in every aspect of a person's life.

    I see the government as little else than a necessary governing body that is rife with ineptitude and waste and thus should be as little as possible.

    Political correctness is one of the reasons Trump does so well. 

    It's too bad that everything is black and white for you and no gray area. Sometimes there's a little bit of truth in two explanations.
    The OP didn't fabricate anything.

    Wow that's a weird post
    Wasnt Even talking to you
    Pumkin? I'm supposed take you serious?

    Lol 
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:


    What hole have you been hiding in lately? 

    You don't think the other side was moronic last election cycle for electing O mostly because he would make history?

    I got news for you pumkin, most of this country is uninformed about the true issues that the parties stand for.

    Most people ( you included ) only go for the low hanging fruit. You think the GOP really does have a war on minorities and women.

    I'm conservative because I believe in protecting those that can't protect themselves. And because I think the government shouldn't get involved in every aspect of a person's life.

    I see the government as little else than a necessary governing body that is rife with ineptitude and waste and thus should be as little as possible.

    Political correctness is one of the reasons Trump does so well. 

    It's too bad that everything is black and white for you and no gray area. Sometimes there's a little bit of truth in two explanations.
    The OP didn't fabricate anything.

    Wow that's a weird post
    Wasnt Even talking to you
    Pumkin? I'm supposed take you serious?

    Lol 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Ok. Wasn't referring to his post. Just yours.  
    So nothing substantial.  Just because he is a risk taker and a success---he has to be a cheat?  Hard for me to point blank draw that conclusion on anyone.  Then it sounds pretty lame to me. Could be a mixture of sour grapes, jealousy, or just an excuse to take shots at someone you disagree with. 
    How is taking risks seen as bad?  That is how businessmen succeed---as do people in most walks of life that reach the elite level. 
    Read most pundits.  They saw the field in a much different light than you do.  
    As always, everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Just would be nice for it to at least seem to be based on something substantial.  Otherwise, it just seems bitter and uninformed. 

    Raiders denfense 

    It's always cool to watch you disguise your blitzes. 

    Well done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Ok. Wasn't referring to his post. Just yours.  
    So nothing substantial.  Just because he is a risk taker and a success---he has to be a cheat?  Hard for me to point blank draw that conclusion on anyone.  Then it sounds pretty lame to me. Could be a mixture of sour grapes, jealousy, or just an excuse to take shots at someone you disagree with. 
    How is taking risks seen as bad?  That is how businessmen succeed---as do people in most walks of life that reach the elite level. 
    Read most pundits.  They saw the field in a much different light than you do.  
    As always, everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Just would be nice for it to at least seem to be based on something substantial.  Otherwise, it just seems bitter and uninformed. 

    Raiders denfense 

    It's always cool to watch you disguise your blitzes. 

    Well done
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2016 - 4:14 AM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    He actually thinks he's a psychiatrist.  Can you imagine trying to get mental help from dl?

    Most of us don't imagine getting mental help, 
      Looks like you do



    Weird how you're all obsessed you are with me like you've gone psychostalker again. Lol 

    You've lost the mental game because....
    I'm in your head 
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    Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

    He actually thinks he's a psychiatrist.  Can you imagine trying to get mental help from dl?

    Most of us don't imagine getting mental help, 
      Looks like you do



    Weird how you're all obsessed you are with me like you've gone psychostalker again. Lol 

    You've lost the mental game because....
    I'm in your head 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    I mean what I said..

    His past is riddled with dishonesty and questionable dealings from his real estate school to the golf course he was involved with in Ireland (I think it was Ireland) to the most recent humorous article about him openly cheating in his golf game.

    Nothing about Trump is on the up and up to me..he takes too many risks and has too many failures to even think he isnt a massive cheater, especially behind closed doors.

    And to whomever said the public is moronic for voting Obama twice, I suggest that this is a function of the repeated failure of the republican party to present a candidate in the last series of elections worth a crap. McCain and Romney??? So the best your side can do is McCain and crazy lady, cheating job cutting money hiding Romney and a guy like Trump/Cruz/etc etc this round?

    It is no wonder that Hilary and Obama are successful, the competition is awful.



    But it's not like honesty matters to the GOP base to begin with.  They only hear what they want to hear and believe what they are told to believe.  Trump fits that perfectly but it didn't start with trump.

    As a non-partisan indepdent I did not vote for Obama twice but it was hard for me to support Romney.  Romney had a born loser type of look to him like Kerry did.  but at this point i would take Romney over trump, McCain/palin tho was a train wreck and a side show only rivaled by trump himself. 

    Trump basically destoryed everyone.  Christie is a joke,  destroyed bush, he infantasized Rubio and made him look like fool again drinking from a tiny water bottle 

    https://youtu.be/GNJQ-_aDVM0

    He destoryed Lyin Ted and put to rest the teabaggers, he drowned on kasich, probably the most sound conservative In the race with all his drama and he exposed former front runner Ben Carson as a sell out with no integrity.  Hard to see that one coming with Ben Carson being a "sell out". Lol

    5/4/16, the day conservatism died. 



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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    I mean what I said..

    His past is riddled with dishonesty and questionable dealings from his real estate school to the golf course he was involved with in Ireland (I think it was Ireland) to the most recent humorous article about him openly cheating in his golf game.

    Nothing about Trump is on the up and up to me..he takes too many risks and has too many failures to even think he isnt a massive cheater, especially behind closed doors.

    And to whomever said the public is moronic for voting Obama twice, I suggest that this is a function of the repeated failure of the republican party to present a candidate in the last series of elections worth a crap. McCain and Romney??? So the best your side can do is McCain and crazy lady, cheating job cutting money hiding Romney and a guy like Trump/Cruz/etc etc this round?

    It is no wonder that Hilary and Obama are successful, the competition is awful.



    But it's not like honesty matters to the GOP base to begin with.  They only hear what they want to hear and believe what they are told to believe.  Trump fits that perfectly but it didn't start with trump.

    As a non-partisan indepdent I did not vote for Obama twice but it was hard for me to support Romney.  Romney had a born loser type of look to him like Kerry did.  but at this point i would take Romney over trump, McCain/palin tho was a train wreck and a side show only rivaled by trump himself. 

    Trump basically destoryed everyone.  Christie is a joke,  destroyed bush, he infantasized Rubio and made him look like fool again drinking from a tiny water bottle 

    https://youtu.be/GNJQ-_aDVM0

    He destoryed Lyin Ted and put to rest the teabaggers, he drowned on kasich, probably the most sound conservative In the race with all his drama and he exposed former front runner Ben Carson as a sell out with no integrity.  Hard to see that one coming with Ben Carson being a "sell out". Lol

    5/4/16, the day conservatism died. 



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Ok. Wasn't referring to his post. Just yours.  
    So nothing substantial.  Just because he is a risk taker and a success---he has to be a cheat?  Hard for me to point blank draw that conclusion on anyone.  Then it sounds pretty lame to me. Could be a mixture of sour grapes, jealousy, or just an excuse to take shots at someone you disagree with. 
    How is taking risks seen as bad?  That is how businessmen succeed---as do people in most walks of life that reach the elite level. 
    Read most pundits.  They saw the field in a much different light than you do.  
    As always, everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Just would be nice for it to at least seem to be based on something substantial.  Otherwise, it just seems bitter and uninformed. 

    Ha..nice try. Of course you needed to add the ending part as some poorly hidden jab. 

    I dont draw conclusions based on sour grapes or not liking someone...that may be your position but for sure it is not mine.

    I dont think there is a candidate who is squeaky clean, there are few people in high positions in the business world that are squeaky clean..so the obvious easy and uneducated conclusion is Trump falls in line with the usual stereotype, but it goes beyond that.

    As I said in specifics that Trump has many public examples of dishonest dealings..it is public. Some of his business interests and decisions are questionable, did you not understand those words I typed? His real estate school, the way he handled the golf course he was building in Ireland.

    To me the most obvious and glaring reason is as I stated..he takes a large number of risks, he boasts about it and revels in that fact..and he has failed many many times, his businesses bloat up on debt and they fail..it is a repeated pattern over and over. A risk taker as brazen as he is takes risks we do not see and risks we see..that is his nature as a person. I have no doubt he has been dishonest many many more times that those near to him only can know, but it is quite easy to see based on his outward, public actions and results the kind of person he is.

    The public and known examples already fit the description I gave, even ONE public example fits the description I gave, but aside from even one example, the guy for sure is riddled with much much more..based only on his multiple decade repeated risk taking and failure, risk taking, debt filled growth and failure.

    Oh and my sour grapes are only this..and I stand by this position for ANY candidate, the difference is Trump is so bad at it I cannot even try to make excuses for him. The guy has a huge mouth and cannot come up with real answers for much of anything. Someone asks him a question of depth and his answers are horrible...the "yeah we will do........." and fill in the blank, he seems completely incapable of a neutral answer which shows his political immaturity. 

    I dont want to hear we will "get the bad ones, the really bad ones" (referring to illegal aliens) or "we will big a big wall, a really big wall, I know how to build things". Dont come off as some ignorant know-it-all to appease the mindless followers. I cannot give any real support to someone so clueless that they actually think the public will buy such stupid answers and think there is ANY reality to what he suggests.

    Its so bad it is laughable, I watch the general acceptance of this clown and wonder what the hell happened to our society? Maybe in general we really are this stupid...obviously this has to be the case.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

    Ok. Wasn't referring to his post. Just yours.  
    So nothing substantial.  Just because he is a risk taker and a success---he has to be a cheat?  Hard for me to point blank draw that conclusion on anyone.  Then it sounds pretty lame to me. Could be a mixture of sour grapes, jealousy, or just an excuse to take shots at someone you disagree with. 
    How is taking risks seen as bad?  That is how businessmen succeed---as do people in most walks of life that reach the elite level. 
    Read most pundits.  They saw the field in a much different light than you do.  
    As always, everyone is entitled to their opinion.  Just would be nice for it to at least seem to be based on something substantial.  Otherwise, it just seems bitter and uninformed. 

    Ha..nice try. Of course you needed to add the ending part as some poorly hidden jab. 

    I dont draw conclusions based on sour grapes or not liking someone...that may be your position but for sure it is not mine.

    I dont think there is a candidate who is squeaky clean, there are few people in high positions in the business world that are squeaky clean..so the obvious easy and uneducated conclusion is Trump falls in line with the usual stereotype, but it goes beyond that.

    As I said in specifics that Trump has many public examples of dishonest dealings..it is public. Some of his business interests and decisions are questionable, did you not understand those words I typed? His real estate school, the way he handled the golf course he was building in Ireland.

    To me the most obvious and glaring reason is as I stated..he takes a large number of risks, he boasts about it and revels in that fact..and he has failed many many times, his businesses bloat up on debt and they fail..it is a repeated pattern over and over. A risk taker as brazen as he is takes risks we do not see and risks we see..that is his nature as a person. I have no doubt he has been dishonest many many more times that those near to him only can know, but it is quite easy to see based on his outward, public actions and results the kind of person he is.

    The public and known examples already fit the description I gave, even ONE public example fits the description I gave, but aside from even one example, the guy for sure is riddled with much much more..based only on his multiple decade repeated risk taking and failure, risk taking, debt filled growth and failure.

    Oh and my sour grapes are only this..and I stand by this position for ANY candidate, the difference is Trump is so bad at it I cannot even try to make excuses for him. The guy has a huge mouth and cannot come up with real answers for much of anything. Someone asks him a question of depth and his answers are horrible...the "yeah we will do........." and fill in the blank, he seems completely incapable of a neutral answer which shows his political immaturity. 

    I dont want to hear we will "get the bad ones, the really bad ones" (referring to illegal aliens) or "we will big a big wall, a really big wall, I know how to build things". Dont come off as some ignorant know-it-all to appease the mindless followers. I cannot give any real support to someone so clueless that they actually think the public will buy such stupid answers and think there is ANY reality to what he suggests.

    Its so bad it is laughable, I watch the general acceptance of this clown and wonder what the hell happened to our society? Maybe in general we really are this stupid...obviously this has to be the case.
     
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    The only clown in this race is Hillary Rodham Clinton and all of the clowns that surround her. Here is what is amazing to me. How has the liberal,  dominated press suppressed all the information regarding her happy lovers? Go Trump!
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    The only clown in this race is Hillary Rodham Clinton and all of the clowns that surround her. Here is what is amazing to me. How has the liberal,  dominated press suppressed all the information regarding her happy lovers? Go Trump!
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2016 - 11:20 AM ET #69

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Wow that's a weird post
    Wasnt Even talking to you
    Pumkin? I'm supposed take you serious?

    Lol 

    Oh how convenient. Of course you weren't talking to me. You ignore me every time you get stumped by my direct questions. 

    All this is is a way for you to deflect and try to save face. You think by calling it a weird post that you don't have to answer anything. You're partially correct, you don't have to answer anything. Just don't be so stupid to think nobody knows the real reason you fail to answer.

    I especially like how you went ghost on my direct questions in the other thread about why it's okay for illegals to come into our country without permission and misbehave on top of that?

    You aren't here to discuss anything. You're here just to use emotions and argue trivial stuff with conservatives.

    Just like in this thread, you're so eager to see your enemies fail that you say stupid things that make you look like a chump then you run and hide or deflect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Wow that's a weird post
    Wasnt Even talking to you
    Pumkin? I'm supposed take you serious?

    Lol 

    Oh how convenient. Of course you weren't talking to me. You ignore me every time you get stumped by my direct questions. 

    All this is is a way for you to deflect and try to save face. You think by calling it a weird post that you don't have to answer anything. You're partially correct, you don't have to answer anything. Just don't be so stupid to think nobody knows the real reason you fail to answer.

    I especially like how you went ghost on my direct questions in the other thread about why it's okay for illegals to come into our country without permission and misbehave on top of that?

    You aren't here to discuss anything. You're here just to use emotions and argue trivial stuff with conservatives.

    Just like in this thread, you're so eager to see your enemies fail that you say stupid things that make you look like a chump then you run and hide or deflect.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2016 - 11:25 AM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Wow that's a weird post
    Wasnt Even talking to you
    Pumkin? I'm supposed take you serious?

    Lol 
    Wow 7 emoticons nice job.  Usually 6 means you're rattled and feeling insecure.  The way you hide from bowlslit daily is funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    Wow that's a weird post
    Wasnt Even talking to you
    Pumkin? I'm supposed take you serious?

    Lol 
    Wow 7 emoticons nice job.  Usually 6 means you're rattled and feeling insecure.  The way you hide from bowlslit daily is funny.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2016 - 11:41 AM ET #71

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    I mean what I said..

    His past is riddled with dishonesty and questionable dealings from his real estate school to the golf course he was involved with in Ireland (I think it was Ireland) to the most recent humorous article about him openly cheating in his golf game.

    Nothing about Trump is on the up and up to me..he takes too many risks and has too many failures to even think he isnt a massive cheater, especially behind closed doors.

    And to whomever said the public is moronic for voting Obama twice, I suggest that this is a function of the repeated failure of the republican party to present a candidate in the last series of elections worth a crap. McCain and Romney??? So the best your side can do is McCain and crazy lady, cheating job cutting money hiding Romney and a guy like Trump/Cruz/etc etc this round?

    It is no wonder that Hilary and Obama are successful, the competition is awful.



    Wall, the candidates that are clean enough don't exist...on either side. 

    John Kasich was the cleanest of all this cycle but he was too boring, had Fred Flintstone mouth.

    Political correctness is a huge reason Trump does so well. Too many people are sick and tired of the direction were headed with what we can and cannot do or say to be PC.

    I fully recognize Trump for his deficiencies, he has several that stand out. But, with all of these deficiencies he is light years ahead of HRC who thinks that Secret Servicemen standing outside her server room door could protect them from being hacked.

    She still is trying to say that it was just a bad idea to use her own server...duh. Not only was it a bad idea, how ridiculous was the expectation that as Secretary of state she would never handle classified or sensitive information. There is an unprecedented level of ignorance with people that support her...And she is the ultimate of flip floppers. I can't believe nobody on the left hammers her for it.

    Like I said before though, the sad part is the vast majority of our voters are dullards when it comes to being informed about the true issues the parties stand for. Only a very small percentage do the homework.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:


    I mean what I said..

    His past is riddled with dishonesty and questionable dealings from his real estate school to the golf course he was involved with in Ireland (I think it was Ireland) to the most recent humorous article about him openly cheating in his golf game.

    Nothing about Trump is on the up and up to me..he takes too many risks and has too many failures to even think he isnt a massive cheater, especially behind closed doors.

    And to whomever said the public is moronic for voting Obama twice, I suggest that this is a function of the repeated failure of the republican party to present a candidate in the last series of elections worth a crap. McCain and Romney??? So the best your side can do is McCain and crazy lady, cheating job cutting money hiding Romney and a guy like Trump/Cruz/etc etc this round?

    It is no wonder that Hilary and Obama are successful, the competition is awful.



    Wall, the candidates that are clean enough don't exist...on either side. 

    John Kasich was the cleanest of all this cycle but he was too boring, had Fred Flintstone mouth.

    Political correctness is a huge reason Trump does so well. Too many people are sick and tired of the direction were headed with what we can and cannot do or say to be PC.

    I fully recognize Trump for his deficiencies, he has several that stand out. But, with all of these deficiencies he is light years ahead of HRC who thinks that Secret Servicemen standing outside her server room door could protect them from being hacked.

    She still is trying to say that it was just a bad idea to use her own server...duh. Not only was it a bad idea, how ridiculous was the expectation that as Secretary of state she would never handle classified or sensitive information. There is an unprecedented level of ignorance with people that support her...And she is the ultimate of flip floppers. I can't believe nobody on the left hammers her for it.

    Like I said before though, the sad part is the vast majority of our voters are dullards when it comes to being informed about the true issues the parties stand for. Only a very small percentage do the homework.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2016 - 11:43 AM ET #72

    Wall and all of the Lefty mods need to get rid of the emoticons for a month. They are as out of control as the Left is in the US. I don't think the posters that use the emoticons incessantly could bench press an emoticon.
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    Wall and all of the Lefty mods need to get rid of the emoticons for a month. They are as out of control as the Left is in the US. I don't think the posters that use the emoticons incessantly could bench press an emoticon.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2016 - 2:21 PM ET #73

    ^ Using an emoticon to get your point across is no big deal.  But when you use them incessantly and in nearly every single post it's not only childish but usually points to not being able to verbalize your feelings.  
    In most cases you're hiding something though.  Not going to mention names but check out the poster who has usually four to six emoticons in a single post.  Those are the ones that need to get serious help.
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    ^ Using an emoticon to get your point across is no big deal.  But when you use them incessantly and in nearly every single post it's not only childish but usually points to not being able to verbalize your feelings.  
    In most cases you're hiding something though.  Not going to mention names but check out the poster who has usually four to six emoticons in a single post.  Those are the ones that need to get serious help.
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2016 - 4:38 PM ET #74

    Bye the by,,, so far over 10 million under-informed moronic Americans have voted or Trump in the 2016 primaries....
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    Bye the by,,, so far over 10 million under-informed moronic Americans have voted or Trump in the 2016 primaries....
     
     
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    Posted: May. 6, 2016 - 7:32 PM ET #75

    A Republican Party elder..  former Vice President person Cheney will support Donald Trump in the Nov.election..
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    A Republican Party elder..  former Vice President person Cheney will support Donald Trump in the Nov.election..
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