A Question for Democrats

Name me ONE good thing that BHO has done for the people and the USA without mentioning White, Black, or Bush.

This should be a short thread.

I'm not a Democrat, but I'll answer.

1. He killed Osama bin Ladin

/thread over

rolf

first of all, you need to believe that a 6'5" saudi on dialysis could wander the desert and mountains for 10 years nowhere near a hospital

if you do believe that, leon panetta was the man behind the entire operation. bama had his golf jacket on in the released pic

i would say to find the death pics, but those are gone. maybe ask seal team 6, but they are gone as well sadly

1st of all BHO hasn't been responsible for killing anyone except the economy.

I think a better question would be, name one original idea that president Obama has brought to the national solutions for problems table

Follow question, what does the man plan to run on for the next four year stint as president?

What has changed? Will he decry the need for more change? (Like invading more countries, more war mongering and death, more bailouts for banks, more extending of the "bush tax cuts"?

Why would you vote for him now?

And for those of us that live in reality, osama has been dead for damn near a decade. What koaj said (handjob)

Do you fist pump victory when you kill a single roach? (Hint hint what changes with osama dead?)

the health care debate exposed the massive abuses of our insurance system......and then of course those stayed after the payola

Here's the #1 reason I think that Obama actually did get Osama:

If Osama was dead, and we knew it for many many years, then why did the Bush administration not release this information publicly? Why allow it to be passed onto Obama who could take credit for it?

Exactly my thoughts as well. Even if you figure that the Bush administration didn't announce it because they hypothetically wanted to keep the boogie man around to either (a) continue the justification for military presence in the Middle East or (b) continue the justification for the intrusion on the rights of the citizenry, then why would the Bush administration not at least make the exact same announcement in the last week of his Presidency that Obama did?

There's no good answer to that question. I could see if it was a presidency going from GOP to GOP to keep it quiet, but you really think the GOP wanted to give the Democrats (and Obama in particular) such a fantastic PR opportunity?

Apache, You are a total jackass.

I’m sick and tired of people asking “What has Obama done?” So here’s a list of things he’s done since he’s been in office. Remember: He was elected President. He wasn’t elected Jesus!

The list is still growing. Let me know if I missed anything.

1. Saved the collapse of the American automotive industry by making GM restructure before bailing them out, and putting incentive money to help the industry

2. Shifted the focus of the war from Iraq to Afghanistan, and putting the emphasis on reducing terrorism where it should have been all along

3. Relaxed Anti-American tensions throughout the world

4. Signed order to close the prisoner “torture camp” at Guantanamo Bay

5. Has made the environment a national priority, and a primary source for job creation

6. Has made education a national priority by putting emphasis and money behind new ideas like charter schools, but speaking directly to school children in telling them they have to do their part.

7. Won the Nobel Peace Prize

8. $789 billion economic stimulus plan

9. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court

10. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles

11. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans

12. Renewed dialogue with NATO and other allies and partners on strategic issues.

13. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force… this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.

14. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops

15. “Cash for clunkers” program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulates auto sales

16. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan

17. Closed offshore tax safe havens

18. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan

19. Ended media “blackout” on war casualties; reporting full information

20. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts

21. . Ended media blackout on war casualties and the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB.

22. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules

23. Ended previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings

24. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports

25. American Recovery and Reinvestment Act has created 2.1 million jobs (as of 12/31/09).

26. Ended previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions

27. Ended previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back

28. Ended previous policy on torture; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with the Geneva Convention standards

29. . Launched Recovery.gov to track spending from the Recovery Act, an unprecedented step to provide transparency and accountability through technology.

30. Ended previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry’s predatory practices

31. Ended previous “stop-loss” policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date

32. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources

33. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient

34. Established a new cyber security office

35. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children

36. Expanding vaccination programs

37. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses

38. . Provided the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with more than $1.4 billion to improve services to America’s Veterans.

39. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research

40. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools

41. Responded with compassion and leadership to the earthquake in Haiti

42. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters

43. . Launched Business.gov – enabling conversation and online collaboration between small business owners, government representatives and industry experts in discussion forums relevant to starting and managing a business. Great for the economy.

44. Improved housing for military personnel

45. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals

46. Changed failing war strategy in Afghanistan.

47. Improving benefits for veterans

48. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants…) after years of neglect

49. Donated his $1.4 million Nobel Prize to nonprofits.

50. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program

51. Provided tax credits to first-time home buyers through the Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009 to revitalize the U.S. housing market.

52. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel

53. Increasing student loans

54. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return “home” to visit loved ones

55. Cracked down on companies that deny sick pay, vacation and health insurance to workers by abusing the employee classification of independent contractor. Such companies also avoid paying Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance taxes for those workers.

56. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000

57. Limits on lobbyists’ access to the White House

58. Protected 300,000 education jobs, such as teachers, principals, librarians, and counselors through the Recovery Act that would have otherwise been lost.

59. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration

60. Children’s Health Insurance Reauthorization Act on February 4, 2009, provides quality health care to 11 million kids – 4 million who were previously uninsured.

61. Lower drug costs for seniors

62. Making more loans available to small businesses

63. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration

64. . Signed the Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act, the first piece of comprehensive legislation aimed at improving the lives of Americans living with paralysis

65. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals

66. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans

67. Announced creation of a Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record for members of the U.S. Armed Forces to improve quality of medical care.

68. New federal funding for science and research labs

69. New funds for school construction

70. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending

71. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices

72. . Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals.

73. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren’t even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan

74. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions

75. Provided tax credit to workers thus cutting taxes for 95% of America’s working families.

76. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic

77. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research

78. . Helped reverse a downward spiral of the stock market. On January 19, 2009, the last day of President Bush’s presidency, the Dow closed at 8,218.22. In February 2010, the Dow closed at 10,309.24

79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel

80. Restarted the nuclear non-proliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols

81. Provided attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles.

82. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters

83. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy

84. Unveiled a program on Earth Day 2009 to develop the renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents. These regulations will enable, for the first time ever, the nation to tap into our ocean’s vast sustainable resources to generate clean energy in an environmentally sound and safe manner.

85. Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program

86. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards

87. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced

88. Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job

89. The FDA is now regulating tobacco

90. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date.

91. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010

92. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying

93. The “secret detention” facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed

94. US financial and banking rescue plan

95. US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast

96. . Signed the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act to stop fraud and wasteful spending in the defense procurement and contracting system.

97. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office

98. Improved relations with Iran

99. Improved U.S. policy on climate change

100. Set timetable for exiting Iraq (already started removing troops)

101. Improved relations with Russia

102. Improved relations with the Islamic World

103. Made progress towards greater cooperation on limiting nuclear proliferation

104. Economic stimulus plan has created jobs. (Unemployment rate decreasing)

105. Drastically slowed down the recession

106. Saved Wall Street

107. Passed the Lilly Ledbetter Act (equal work for equal pay) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilly_Ledbetter_Fair_Pay_Act_of_2009

108. HEALTH CARE REFORM

Once again, this is a lot to accomplish in such a short amount of time. He was elected President, he wasn’t elected Jesus.

Apache, you are an idiot. I can search a thousand more and write alist a mile long!!!!

Libya? US deaths? 0.


Bush in Iraq? thousands dead, 2 trillion in tax dollars, over 671,000 dead iraqis, meaningless war, tax cuts for rich

 

If obama killed OBL, then obama blew up the rigs in the Gulf. There's a huge difference between it happening on your watch and "you" doing it. obama didn't "do" shit. Clinton didn't create the internet boom either, he was a lucky recipient.

 

I think every single one of those from 1 to 108 could be disputed. Also, 65 and 72 are the same thing

here is a link to a NONPARTISAN FACT CHECK WEBSITE

they rate dems and repubs equal in a lot of respects


https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/browse/


Check that out Apache

Correct me if I am wrong, but Obama had to:

(a) Give the OK to the Special Ops mission to get Osama

and

(b) Give the OK to do the mission itself without telling Pakistan beforehands.

Hate Obama all you want, but that decision took balls especially cause everyone knows what can happen if you drop Special Ops forces into hostile territory and things go south.

Jobs died on Obama's watch ..........

LMAO AND YOU ARE FROM TEXAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you should be talking about that fat redneck clown wanna be politician.


are you voting for perry????????? lmfao.


He give in state tuition for illegal immigrants. I live in Maryland, likely the bluest state in the country. Our Governor, O Malley, legalized in state tuiting for illegal immigrants as well.

We all fought it, had a referendum and it's being done away with.

yet your clown ass "conservative" vaccinates young girls and receives corporate campaign kickbacks????? and gives illegals cheap tuition????

Is he your hero? If not, let me know who, please.


Maybe its palin? Did you know her family has received over $137,000 in CASH MONEY from the federal gov as part of a settlement allowing drilling in alaska?

yes, they actually pay people in the state she is governor of yearly sums of cash to rape the states resources. She gladly accepted over a hundred grand and cries about federal waste.


Take the blinders off my friend.

Really? When did the financial crisis start? When did the recession begin? Do you KNOW that President Bush approved the first MASSIVE bank bailouts? The crisis was already here dumbass. The republicans passed the first stimulus dumbass.

Lmao yes he killed the economy....it CERTAINLY wasn't jobs overseas, corporate greed, stagnating wage of the average middle class worker.....

IT WAS OBAMA!!!!!!

Forget everything I said. How about the gas mileage increase? The EPA that you hate MADE automakers increase fuel economy.

They bitched they couldnt for years and years. Obama pressures the EPA, they pass legislation, and what do you know?



FACT: Over 10 years, Obamas fuel initiatives have resulted in 21% greater fuel efficiency. We now save MORE gas each year thanks to him then the entire domestic output of the US: the equivalent of him doubling our drilling.

Anyways moron, theres about a thousand things.

crazyakes  https://commieblaster.com/   what does this tell you????

After reading over crazyakes list i've come to the conclusion Obama will be elected in a landslide.

But while you drive a 50MPG car 10 years from now, you won't be thanking Obama. When your pickups are going from 14MPG to 24MPG and you save thousands at the gas pump Apache, will you be thanking Obama? No, you're an ass.

Why not???? Just think: forget everything I said he does. Just by FORCING automakers (aka socialism) to innovate, to have better fuel standards, he reduces demand for foreign oil, adds hundreds each year to each of our pockets. Improved air quality saves thousands of lives, decreases asthma levels in youth in urban areas as well as cancer rates, which are proven elevated by gasoline fumes and carbon ingestion.

Nobody is perfect. I voted for Obama and will again. He's the lesser evil. He means well, and he cares about the future not just corporate profits.

Final thought:

I copy and pasted that list. I know he's done a lot. Some things are vague. I want to say I'm no hardcore liberal. I'm not the opposite of you. I voted for Clinton, I voted for Bush the first time, I voted for Obama.

I don't go out of my way to defend a democrat or attack republicans. However, it really really annoys me when people marginalize great accomplishments and act like the man is intentionally running the country in the ground.

We need balance. I voted for republicans in the house to put Obama in check and I enjoy the arguments, it brings attention to the issues. We are all Americans and need to work together, despite differences in our ideas of how to do it.

God bless you and your opinions Apache and the firestorm of criticism I'm sure to receive, and God bless America!!


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