Outliers are opportunists, you cannot associate opportunists with a cause in any scenario, that goes for BLM or Antifa or NRA or religious oppression and harm when the percentages are so low and inconsistent. People who seek to harm others want validation and outside reasoning for taking action, they want to lash out and whatever the flavor of the validation it does not matter. Ive stated this so many times that at the core it is human nature and our flawed carnal states where some people are unable to exist in a society that does not bend to their philosophical will OR that some people are mentally lacking and unable to understand the extent of their actions and harmful tendencies.
@StumpTownStu
Outliers are opportunists, you cannot associate opportunists with a cause in any scenario, that goes for BLM or Antifa or NRA or religious oppression and harm when the percentages are so low and inconsistent. People who seek to harm others want validation and outside reasoning for taking action, they want to lash out and whatever the flavor of the validation it does not matter. Ive stated this so many times that at the core it is human nature and our flawed carnal states where some people are unable to exist in a society that does not bend to their philosophical will OR that some people are mentally lacking and unable to understand the extent of their actions and harmful tendencies.
But you can associate opportunists with the cause and society does. The reason is, you often times cannot differ those who for the cause and the opportunists. Or, is the cause strictly for opportunists? And how do we know that it is not staged for this purpose or intent. It's not far fetched to think that opportunists are smart enough to employ peaceful protestors or holders of these events only to set the stage for the opportunists to come in and do their thing. All the looting and destruction seems very deliberate in most situations where and when it was occurring. Not saying it's right, but people take advantage of situations all of the time. Who's more at fault, those who continue to organize and hold these events knowing that it will bring out bad in others, such as the opportunists, or the opportunists themselves? To me, stop organizing and holding these events if you do not want to be associated with the negativity that ensues. Freedom of speech is great, but you also need to know when to tapper it in this day and age. Not the same world we used to live in. When you can see the constant destruction that is ensuing and continue to hold these events, then I say you are contributing to the problem just as much as the opportunists are.
If your cause is so great that you are willing to overlook the bad that may come with it, then you should be lumped into the situation as a whole. When do people realize that there cause is not always for the greater good in a society that is looking to capitalize on the next thing. It's sad, but it's the honest truth. As the saying goes, a few bad apples do spoil the bunch. Find other means to get your message out and stop given these people the upper hand.
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But you can associate opportunists with the cause and society does. The reason is, you often times cannot differ those who for the cause and the opportunists. Or, is the cause strictly for opportunists? And how do we know that it is not staged for this purpose or intent. It's not far fetched to think that opportunists are smart enough to employ peaceful protestors or holders of these events only to set the stage for the opportunists to come in and do their thing. All the looting and destruction seems very deliberate in most situations where and when it was occurring. Not saying it's right, but people take advantage of situations all of the time. Who's more at fault, those who continue to organize and hold these events knowing that it will bring out bad in others, such as the opportunists, or the opportunists themselves? To me, stop organizing and holding these events if you do not want to be associated with the negativity that ensues. Freedom of speech is great, but you also need to know when to tapper it in this day and age. Not the same world we used to live in. When you can see the constant destruction that is ensuing and continue to hold these events, then I say you are contributing to the problem just as much as the opportunists are.
If your cause is so great that you are willing to overlook the bad that may come with it, then you should be lumped into the situation as a whole. When do people realize that there cause is not always for the greater good in a society that is looking to capitalize on the next thing. It's sad, but it's the honest truth. As the saying goes, a few bad apples do spoil the bunch. Find other means to get your message out and stop given these people the upper hand.
That is the second truth about human nature the fact we want to blame. So blaming a lawful protest as the cause for human decisions of looting or harm is the quick and easy out for an issue and it is false especially as an outlier. Groups are legally allowed to have peaceful protest even if we might not agree with the cause of the protest or demonstration. For every 100 peaceful protest there might be 1-2 who have alternative motives and really are not interested in the underlying cause rather that it gives them opportunity to break the law and find personal gain or release.
That is the second truth about human nature the fact we want to blame. So blaming a lawful protest as the cause for human decisions of looting or harm is the quick and easy out for an issue and it is false especially as an outlier. Groups are legally allowed to have peaceful protest even if we might not agree with the cause of the protest or demonstration. For every 100 peaceful protest there might be 1-2 who have alternative motives and really are not interested in the underlying cause rather that it gives them opportunity to break the law and find personal gain or release.
@StumpTownStu Outliers are opportunists, you cannot associate opportunists with a cause in any scenario, that goes for BLM or Antifa or NRA or religious oppression and harm when the percentages are so low and inconsistent.
People who seek to harm others want validation and outside reasoning for taking action, they want to lash out and whatever the flavor of the validation it does not matter. Ive stated this so many times that at the core it is human nature and our flawed carnal states where some people are unable to exist in a society that does not bend to their philosophical will OR that some people are mentally lacking and unable to understand the extent of their actions and harmful tendencies.
That point should be obvious to most . . . unless wearing partisan blinders.
Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@StumpTownStu Outliers are opportunists, you cannot associate opportunists with a cause in any scenario, that goes for BLM or Antifa or NRA or religious oppression and harm when the percentages are so low and inconsistent.
People who seek to harm others want validation and outside reasoning for taking action, they want to lash out and whatever the flavor of the validation it does not matter. Ive stated this so many times that at the core it is human nature and our flawed carnal states where some people are unable to exist in a society that does not bend to their philosophical will OR that some people are mentally lacking and unable to understand the extent of their actions and harmful tendencies.
That point should be obvious to most . . . unless wearing partisan blinders.
Just like all anti-Christ FASCISTS, trump supports police brutality!
HUFFPOST -
Trump’s death penalty ads reveal his thirst for police brutality.
He wrote in 1989 that police should be “unshackled” from the constant threat of being called to account for “police brutality,” a sentiment he has echoed ever since:
• In a 2017 speech, Trump said police should not to be “nice” to suspects and encouraged arresting officers not to shield suspects’ heads as they loaded them into squad cars
• In 2020, he celebrated the police killing of Micael Reinoehl, a community activist
• In 2020, in response to protests over police brutality in the George Floyd case, he asked his staff if the protestors couldn’t “just be shot”
• In 2023, he said police should respond to shoplifters by shooting them
• In 2024, he said that one day of “violent policing” would end crime, suggesting that if police could brutalize the population, crime would disappear
• In April this year, [the fascist in the Oval] issued an Executive Order “Strengthening and Unleashing America’s Law Enforcement” promoting aggressive police tactics and making it more difficult to punish brutality
• On August 11, announcing his “federal takeover” of Washington D.C., Trump said police and military forces could “do whatever the hell they want” to people on the streets, expressly encouraging brutality.
Just like all anti-Christ FASCISTS, trump supports police brutality!
HUFFPOST -
Trump’s death penalty ads reveal his thirst for police brutality.
He wrote in 1989 that police should be “unshackled” from the constant threat of being called to account for “police brutality,” a sentiment he has echoed ever since:
• In a 2017 speech, Trump said police should not to be “nice” to suspects and encouraged arresting officers not to shield suspects’ heads as they loaded them into squad cars
• In 2020, he celebrated the police killing of Micael Reinoehl, a community activist
• In 2020, in response to protests over police brutality in the George Floyd case, he asked his staff if the protestors couldn’t “just be shot”
• In 2023, he said police should respond to shoplifters by shooting them
• In 2024, he said that one day of “violent policing” would end crime, suggesting that if police could brutalize the population, crime would disappear
• In April this year, [the fascist in the Oval] issued an Executive Order “Strengthening and Unleashing America’s Law Enforcement” promoting aggressive police tactics and making it more difficult to punish brutality
• On August 11, announcing his “federal takeover” of Washington D.C., Trump said police and military forces could “do whatever the hell they want” to people on the streets, expressly encouraging brutality.
HEADLINES today . . . [the FASCIST in the Oval] directs his lapdog Pam Bondi to seek out and prosecute leftist groups for alleged "hate speech" Soon after, Trump threatens to ‘go after’ reporter, suggesting critical coverage of him could be "hate speech"
I dont care what party a person is from, any person with a functioning brain and went to grade school cant see thats the words of a dictator. All i can say to these people is go get a brain scan, because a tumor might be growing in your head
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
HEADLINES today . . . [the FASCIST in the Oval] directs his lapdog Pam Bondi to seek out and prosecute leftist groups for alleged "hate speech" Soon after, Trump threatens to ‘go after’ reporter, suggesting critical coverage of him could be "hate speech"
I dont care what party a person is from, any person with a functioning brain and went to grade school cant see thats the words of a dictator. All i can say to these people is go get a brain scan, because a tumor might be growing in your head
Ted Cruz Defends Hate Speech J.Tolliver - “The First Amendment absolutely protects speech. It absolutely protects hate speech,” Cruz said. “It protects vile speech. It protects horrible speech.” Cruz continued, “What does that mean? It means you cannot be prosecuted for speech, even if it is evil and bigoted and wrong.” ....but then Cruz goes on to say about people who he alleges do so:"In my view, they should absolutely face the consequences for celebrating murder.” How about attempted murder? Like that MAGA dude who bludgeoned Paul Pelosi... or Infowars asshole Alex Jones celebrating the slaughter of children calling it a hoax. or those MAGAs on Jan 6 hoping to hang Mike Pence.
so magas screaming hang mike pence is ok ????
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Ted Cruz Defends Hate Speech J.Tolliver - “The First Amendment absolutely protects speech. It absolutely protects hate speech,” Cruz said. “It protects vile speech. It protects horrible speech.” Cruz continued, “What does that mean? It means you cannot be prosecuted for speech, even if it is evil and bigoted and wrong.” ....but then Cruz goes on to say about people who he alleges do so:"In my view, they should absolutely face the consequences for celebrating murder.” How about attempted murder? Like that MAGA dude who bludgeoned Paul Pelosi... or Infowars asshole Alex Jones celebrating the slaughter of children calling it a hoax. or those MAGAs on Jan 6 hoping to hang Mike Pence.
Ted Cruz Defends Hate Speech J.Tolliver - “The First Amendment absolutely protects speech. It absolutely protects hate speech,” Cruz said. “It protects vile speech. It protects horrible speech.” Cruz continued, “What does that mean? It means you cannot be prosecuted for speech, even if it is evil and bigoted and wrong.” ....but then Cruz goes on to say about people who he alleges do so:"In my view, they should absolutely face the consequences for celebrating murder.” How about attempted murder? Like that MAGA dude who bludgeoned Paul Pelosi... or Infowars asshole Alex Jones celebrating the slaughter of children calling it a hoax. or those MAGAs on Jan 6 hoping to hang Mike Pence.
another example of a maga basically saying 'DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO"
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Ted Cruz Defends Hate Speech J.Tolliver - “The First Amendment absolutely protects speech. It absolutely protects hate speech,” Cruz said. “It protects vile speech. It protects horrible speech.” Cruz continued, “What does that mean? It means you cannot be prosecuted for speech, even if it is evil and bigoted and wrong.” ....but then Cruz goes on to say about people who he alleges do so:"In my view, they should absolutely face the consequences for celebrating murder.” How about attempted murder? Like that MAGA dude who bludgeoned Paul Pelosi... or Infowars asshole Alex Jones celebrating the slaughter of children calling it a hoax. or those MAGAs on Jan 6 hoping to hang Mike Pence.
another example of a maga basically saying 'DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO"
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Ted Cruz Defends Hate Speech J.Tolliver - “The First Amendment absolutely protects speech. It absolutely protects hate speech,” Cruz said. “It protects vile speech. It protects horrible speech.” Cruz continued, “What does that mean? It means you cannot be prosecuted for speech, even if it is evil and bigoted and wrong.” ....but then Cruz goes on to say about people who he alleges do so:"In my view, they should absolutely face the consequences for celebrating murder.”
How about attempted murder? Like that MAGA dude who bludgeoned Paul Pelosi... or Infowars asshole Alex Jones celebrating the slaughter of children calling it a hoax. or those MAGAs on Jan 6 hoping to hang Mike Pence.
another example of a maga basically saying 'DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO"
@cd329
Which is typical of their convicted felon who leads them.
Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Ted Cruz Defends Hate Speech J.Tolliver - “The First Amendment absolutely protects speech. It absolutely protects hate speech,” Cruz said. “It protects vile speech. It protects horrible speech.” Cruz continued, “What does that mean? It means you cannot be prosecuted for speech, even if it is evil and bigoted and wrong.” ....but then Cruz goes on to say about people who he alleges do so:"In my view, they should absolutely face the consequences for celebrating murder.”
How about attempted murder? Like that MAGA dude who bludgeoned Paul Pelosi... or Infowars asshole Alex Jones celebrating the slaughter of children calling it a hoax. or those MAGAs on Jan 6 hoping to hang Mike Pence.
another example of a maga basically saying 'DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO"
@cd329
Which is typical of their convicted felon who leads them.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Ted Cruz Defends Hate Speech J.Tolliver - “The First Amendment absolutely protects speech. It absolutely protects hate speech,” Cruz said. “It protects vile speech. It protects horrible speech.” Cruz continued, “What does that mean? It means you cannot be prosecuted for speech, even if it is evil and bigoted and wrong.” ....but then Cruz goes on to say about people who he alleges do so:"In my view, they should absolutely face the consequences for celebrating murder.” How about attempted murder? Like that MAGA dude who bludgeoned Paul Pelosi... or Infowars asshole Alex Jones celebrating the slaughter of children calling it a hoax. or those MAGAs on Jan 6 hoping to hang Mike Pence. another example of a maga basically saying 'DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO"
@cd329
We both know both sides do it but clearly one side does it far more often than the dems
Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: Ted Cruz Defends Hate Speech J.Tolliver - “The First Amendment absolutely protects speech. It absolutely protects hate speech,” Cruz said. “It protects vile speech. It protects horrible speech.” Cruz continued, “What does that mean? It means you cannot be prosecuted for speech, even if it is evil and bigoted and wrong.” ....but then Cruz goes on to say about people who he alleges do so:"In my view, they should absolutely face the consequences for celebrating murder.” How about attempted murder? Like that MAGA dude who bludgeoned Paul Pelosi... or Infowars asshole Alex Jones celebrating the slaughter of children calling it a hoax. or those MAGAs on Jan 6 hoping to hang Mike Pence. another example of a maga basically saying 'DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO"
@cd329
We both know both sides do it but clearly one side does it far more often than the dems
We both know both sides do it but clearly one side does it far more often than the dems
Republican leaders call for violence against democrats. For examples, Trump, Kirk, Bannon, Greene, Patel and others. In contrast, no democrat leader incites violence against republicans. GOP is the party of hate speech, autocracy, conspiracy theories and lies.
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par:
We both know both sides do it but clearly one side does it far more often than the dems
Republican leaders call for violence against democrats. For examples, Trump, Kirk, Bannon, Greene, Patel and others. In contrast, no democrat leader incites violence against republicans. GOP is the party of hate speech, autocracy, conspiracy theories and lies.
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: We both know both sides do it but clearly one side does it far more often than the dems Republican leaders call for violence against democrats. For examples, Trump, Kirk, Bannon, Greene, Patel and others. In contrast, no democrat leader incites violence against republicans. GOP is the party of hate speech, autocracy, conspiracy theories and lies.
Care to cite/quote/link where any of them incited violence?
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: We both know both sides do it but clearly one side does it far more often than the dems Republican leaders call for violence against democrats. For examples, Trump, Kirk, Bannon, Greene, Patel and others. In contrast, no democrat leader incites violence against republicans. GOP is the party of hate speech, autocracy, conspiracy theories and lies.
Care to cite/quote/link where any of them incited violence?
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: We both know both sides do it but clearly one side does it far more often than the dems Republican leaders call for violence against democrats. For examples, Trump, Kirk, Bannon, Greene, Patel and others. In contrast, no democrat leader incites violence against republicans. GOP is the party of hate speech, autocracy, conspiracy theories and lies.
This is true in most recent years for certain, at least since 2017, but they are making a strong effort to spin the narrative 180
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: We both know both sides do it but clearly one side does it far more often than the dems Republican leaders call for violence against democrats. For examples, Trump, Kirk, Bannon, Greene, Patel and others. In contrast, no democrat leader incites violence against republicans. GOP is the party of hate speech, autocracy, conspiracy theories and lies.
This is true in most recent years for certain, at least since 2017, but they are making a strong effort to spin the narrative 180
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: We both know both sides do it but clearly one side does it far more often than the dems Republican leaders call for violence against democrats. For examples, Trump, Kirk, Bannon, Greene, Patel and others. In contrast, no democrat leader incites violence against republicans. GOP is the party of hate speech, autocracy, conspiracy theories and lies.
So mad max Waters is now a republican?
Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: We both know both sides do it but clearly one side does it far more often than the dems Republican leaders call for violence against democrats. For examples, Trump, Kirk, Bannon, Greene, Patel and others. In contrast, no democrat leader incites violence against republicans. GOP is the party of hate speech, autocracy, conspiracy theories and lies.
I guess this is Trumps idea of replacement theory!….What the % that goes to the Trump crime family?…He has never earned this much in a year in his life with out a few bankruptcies!….I guess the emoluments clause has been MAGATIZED!
@fubah2
I guess this is Trumps idea of replacement theory!….What the % that goes to the Trump crime family?…He has never earned this much in a year in his life with out a few bankruptcies!….I guess the emoluments clause has been MAGATIZED!
Funny now that Modi is not sucking up to Trump and is buying Russian oil that finally we might see an end to this free cheap labor that India companies who import IT workers and pay them cut rates and profit off the difference. There are BILLIONS of dollars of profit for companies like Infosys and NTT and only now is this coming to the front when it has been going on for decades and has cost thousands of high paying jobs for US workers who are fully capable.
@Zeus4par
Funny now that Modi is not sucking up to Trump and is buying Russian oil that finally we might see an end to this free cheap labor that India companies who import IT workers and pay them cut rates and profit off the difference. There are BILLIONS of dollars of profit for companies like Infosys and NTT and only now is this coming to the front when it has been going on for decades and has cost thousands of high paying jobs for US workers who are fully capable.
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