@StumpTownStu How can you or he or me or anyone make a statement that the flow of drugs has been interrupted? Let alone the petty regular partisan jab which was the true reason for his message. Nothing I said was inaccurate, the flow of drugs has not and will not slow so please feel free to show me with fact that this has ever been the case. The facts are that the suppliers are light years ahead of enforcement, their supply is a multiple of what we see entering the country and THEY control the supply because of simple economics, prices would crash if their TRUE supply were to enter the US. Trump has done absolutely nothing to slow the drug supply, nor could he and Biden did not impact the drug supply in either direction. The only way to impact the supply from an enforcement perspective is to completely isolate and slow down the entry and exit to the country, inspect every single person and item and up the container search requirements at ports to be 100%, this is impossible and that is why the drug supply is not reduced and will not be reduced unless the suppliers choose to reduce it for pricing purposes.
@wallstreetcappers
I see it the same way.
And you have noted before that the drug trade will only seriously dwindle when consumer demand plunges...
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@StumpTownStu How can you or he or me or anyone make a statement that the flow of drugs has been interrupted? Let alone the petty regular partisan jab which was the true reason for his message. Nothing I said was inaccurate, the flow of drugs has not and will not slow so please feel free to show me with fact that this has ever been the case. The facts are that the suppliers are light years ahead of enforcement, their supply is a multiple of what we see entering the country and THEY control the supply because of simple economics, prices would crash if their TRUE supply were to enter the US. Trump has done absolutely nothing to slow the drug supply, nor could he and Biden did not impact the drug supply in either direction. The only way to impact the supply from an enforcement perspective is to completely isolate and slow down the entry and exit to the country, inspect every single person and item and up the container search requirements at ports to be 100%, this is impossible and that is why the drug supply is not reduced and will not be reduced unless the suppliers choose to reduce it for pricing purposes.
@wallstreetcappers
I see it the same way.
And you have noted before that the drug trade will only seriously dwindle when consumer demand plunges...
I know that Narcos is a series and dramatized but I watched both series the original and the Mexico version and it is based on facts and actual events. The reason why I bring up Narcos is you see it from the SUPPLIER perspective, that is what the series is all about and from watching the series the overwhelming theme was that the cartel/suppliers were impacted ONLY when enforcement pursued the suppliers in their lands and areas and the US as the series showed was and is not interested in squashing the suppliers and the local authorities are not going to pursue a real enforcement to eliminate the supply because it costs too much, too many lives would be lost and it is a never ending cycle that you remove one group and another steps in. Suppliers are so far in front of enforcement it is an unfortunate laugher when we see these dog and pony shows of seizures then actually think that it impacts supply, it just does not. Both series also goes into great depths about how the methods of delivery are always changing and that the DEA cannot stop the supply, the efforts are minimal and not impactful and do not alter supply in the slightest.
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@fubah2
I know that Narcos is a series and dramatized but I watched both series the original and the Mexico version and it is based on facts and actual events. The reason why I bring up Narcos is you see it from the SUPPLIER perspective, that is what the series is all about and from watching the series the overwhelming theme was that the cartel/suppliers were impacted ONLY when enforcement pursued the suppliers in their lands and areas and the US as the series showed was and is not interested in squashing the suppliers and the local authorities are not going to pursue a real enforcement to eliminate the supply because it costs too much, too many lives would be lost and it is a never ending cycle that you remove one group and another steps in. Suppliers are so far in front of enforcement it is an unfortunate laugher when we see these dog and pony shows of seizures then actually think that it impacts supply, it just does not. Both series also goes into great depths about how the methods of delivery are always changing and that the DEA cannot stop the supply, the efforts are minimal and not impactful and do not alter supply in the slightest.
@fubah2 I know that Narcos is a series and dramatized but I watched both series the original and the Mexico version and it is based on facts and actual events. The reason why I bring up Narcos is you see it from the SUPPLIER perspective, that is what the series is all about and from watching the series the overwhelming theme was that the cartel/suppliers were impacted ONLY when enforcement pursued the suppliers in their lands and areas and the US as the series showed was and is not interested in squashing the suppliers and the local authorities are not going to pursue a real enforcement to eliminate the supply because it costs too much, too many lives would be lost and it is a never ending cycle that you remove one group and another steps in. Suppliers are so far in front of enforcement it is an unfortunate laugher when we see these dog and pony shows of seizures then actually think that it impacts supply, it just does not. Both series also goes into great depths about how the methods of delivery are always changing and that the DEA cannot stop the supply, the efforts are minimal and not impactful and do not alter supply in the slightest.
@wallstreetcappers
Exactly. It amounts to little more than hurling a tennis ball at a charging Grizzly bear. Good luck with that
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@fubah2 I know that Narcos is a series and dramatized but I watched both series the original and the Mexico version and it is based on facts and actual events. The reason why I bring up Narcos is you see it from the SUPPLIER perspective, that is what the series is all about and from watching the series the overwhelming theme was that the cartel/suppliers were impacted ONLY when enforcement pursued the suppliers in their lands and areas and the US as the series showed was and is not interested in squashing the suppliers and the local authorities are not going to pursue a real enforcement to eliminate the supply because it costs too much, too many lives would be lost and it is a never ending cycle that you remove one group and another steps in. Suppliers are so far in front of enforcement it is an unfortunate laugher when we see these dog and pony shows of seizures then actually think that it impacts supply, it just does not. Both series also goes into great depths about how the methods of delivery are always changing and that the DEA cannot stop the supply, the efforts are minimal and not impactful and do not alter supply in the slightest.
@wallstreetcappers
Exactly. It amounts to little more than hurling a tennis ball at a charging Grizzly bear. Good luck with that
Ok so you lean on the weak stuff, why not bring some actual information and framework to your rebuttal versus the fall back insults? Notice when I reply I actually have something to say versus your approach of that my reply is false and that I do not know what I am talking about.
What EXACTLY do you refute, and WHY do you refute it? Elaborate and try to have discussion versus the personal petty crap.
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@StumpTownStu
Ok so you lean on the weak stuff, why not bring some actual information and framework to your rebuttal versus the fall back insults? Notice when I reply I actually have something to say versus your approach of that my reply is false and that I do not know what I am talking about.
What EXACTLY do you refute, and WHY do you refute it? Elaborate and try to have discussion versus the personal petty crap.
Unlike immigrants, most convicted drug traffickers are American citizens because they are less likely to be stopped at borders.
Myth is that illegal immigration bring much illicit drugs into the US. According to American immigration council, 80% of all people arrested for smuggling drugs at border are US citizens. The rest are largely individuals with legal visas. Although 90% of drugs go thru ports of entry, US border protection seizes just 3%. Often drugs are hidden in vehicles but few are stopped.
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Unlike immigrants, most convicted drug traffickers are American citizens because they are less likely to be stopped at borders.
Myth is that illegal immigration bring much illicit drugs into the US. According to American immigration council, 80% of all people arrested for smuggling drugs at border are US citizens. The rest are largely individuals with legal visas. Although 90% of drugs go thru ports of entry, US border protection seizes just 3%. Often drugs are hidden in vehicles but few are stopped.
President Donald Trump will sign an executive order Friday to change the Department of Defense’s name to the Department of War, part of a broader effort to present a more aggressive, victorious military to the world.
A senior administration official confirmed the change, which would likely require an act of Congress. But the White House is looking for other alternatives that would avoid a vote, according to another person familiar with the deliberations…..May as well send congress and the senate home….Nothing to do!
When the shit hit the fan all these chicken shit political person on the right will be blame Trump ! ….Midterms!
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President Donald Trump will sign an executive order Friday to change the Department of Defense’s name to the Department of War, part of a broader effort to present a more aggressive, victorious military to the world.
A senior administration official confirmed the change, which would likely require an act of Congress. But the White House is looking for other alternatives that would avoid a vote, according to another person familiar with the deliberations…..May as well send congress and the senate home….Nothing to do!
When the shit hit the fan all these chicken shit political person on the right will be blame Trump ! ….Midterms!
Watching the tech billionaires kiss trumps ass like he was Jesus christ saving the world was downright sickening ans now have zero respect for any of those people. How these billionaires can look at themselves in the mirror everyday, when they got on their knees to this career criminal. It was embarrassing watching them all sell their souls to the orange blob. Utterly hope these people all get hit hard with the karma they deserve in life. They are making billions while the career criminal is destroying regular folks lives. Tech billionaires = spineless little wimps
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Watching the tech billionaires kiss trumps ass like he was Jesus christ saving the world was downright sickening ans now have zero respect for any of those people. How these billionaires can look at themselves in the mirror everyday, when they got on their knees to this career criminal. It was embarrassing watching them all sell their souls to the orange blob. Utterly hope these people all get hit hard with the karma they deserve in life. They are making billions while the career criminal is destroying regular folks lives. Tech billionaires = spineless little wimps
President Donald Trump will sign an executive order Friday to change the Department of Defense’s name to the Department of War, part of a broader effort to present a more aggressive, victorious military to the world. A senior administration official confirmed the change, which would likely require an act of Congress. But the White House is looking for other alternatives that would avoid a vote, according to another person familiar with the deliberations…..May as well send congress and the senate home….Nothing to do! When the shit hit the fan all these chicken shit political person on the right will be blame Trump ! ….Midterms!
So, Adolf continues to move forward with his fascist plans and wants everyone to stop referring to it as the DOD, but instead his "Department of WAR!" .....and the fascist will do so [wrongfully] by bypassing the approval of Congress, of course
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Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
President Donald Trump will sign an executive order Friday to change the Department of Defense’s name to the Department of War, part of a broader effort to present a more aggressive, victorious military to the world. A senior administration official confirmed the change, which would likely require an act of Congress. But the White House is looking for other alternatives that would avoid a vote, according to another person familiar with the deliberations…..May as well send congress and the senate home….Nothing to do! When the shit hit the fan all these chicken shit political person on the right will be blame Trump ! ….Midterms!
So, Adolf continues to move forward with his fascist plans and wants everyone to stop referring to it as the DOD, but instead his "Department of WAR!" .....and the fascist will do so [wrongfully] by bypassing the approval of Congress, of course
Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: President Donald Trump will sign an executive order Friday to change the Department of Defense’s name to the Department of War, part of a broader effort to present a more aggressive, victorious military to the world. A senior administration official confirmed the change, which would likely require an act of Congress. But the White House is looking for other alternatives that would avoid a vote, according to another person familiar with the deliberations…..May as well send congress and the senate home….Nothing to do! When the shit hit the fan all these chicken shit political person on the right will be blame Trump ! ….Midterms! So, Adolf continues to move forward with his fascist plans and wants everyone to stop referring to it as the DOD, but instead his "Department of WAR!" .....and the fascist will do so [wrongfully] by bypassing the approval of Congress, of course
he should go congress, they won't fight the name change. They will vote yes on anything Hitler wants. Every single republican in congress have no guts or spine. Massive is the only republican with a backbone. Rest all need to be voted out. Can you imagine what these spineless republicans would be saying if a Democrat President was doing all these insane things Trump is doing to destroy our country? Magas are only gonna realize what a giant piece of dog poop trump is and what's hes trying to do, until its too late. Magas are a little slow upstairs in the brain dept
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: President Donald Trump will sign an executive order Friday to change the Department of Defense’s name to the Department of War, part of a broader effort to present a more aggressive, victorious military to the world. A senior administration official confirmed the change, which would likely require an act of Congress. But the White House is looking for other alternatives that would avoid a vote, according to another person familiar with the deliberations…..May as well send congress and the senate home….Nothing to do! When the shit hit the fan all these chicken shit political person on the right will be blame Trump ! ….Midterms! So, Adolf continues to move forward with his fascist plans and wants everyone to stop referring to it as the DOD, but instead his "Department of WAR!" .....and the fascist will do so [wrongfully] by bypassing the approval of Congress, of course
he should go congress, they won't fight the name change. They will vote yes on anything Hitler wants. Every single republican in congress have no guts or spine. Massive is the only republican with a backbone. Rest all need to be voted out. Can you imagine what these spineless republicans would be saying if a Democrat President was doing all these insane things Trump is doing to destroy our country? Magas are only gonna realize what a giant piece of dog poop trump is and what's hes trying to do, until its too late. Magas are a little slow upstairs in the brain dept
Mike Johnson’s home district of Shreveport has a worse crime problem than Chicago does. Yet the felon isn’t planning on implementing martial law in Shreveport.….Trump doesn’t care about crime, Especially his own!
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@tryn2makeabuck
Mike Johnson’s home district of Shreveport has a worse crime problem than Chicago does. Yet the felon isn’t planning on implementing martial law in Shreveport.….Trump doesn’t care about crime, Especially his own!
the democrat mayor of DC said that the troops are bringing down the crime level. ......
In recent years, crime rates have been declining nationwide. DC mayor has called deployment of national guard costly, unnecessary and not working. DC attorney general is suing Trump administration for violating law by sending troops without consent of local leaders. Deployment hurts local economy and undermines city autonomy. In California, federal judge rules that deployment is illegal because of violation of law limiting military in domestic law enforcement.
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Quote Originally Posted by tryn2makeabuck:
the democrat mayor of DC said that the troops are bringing down the crime level. ......
In recent years, crime rates have been declining nationwide. DC mayor has called deployment of national guard costly, unnecessary and not working. DC attorney general is suing Trump administration for violating law by sending troops without consent of local leaders. Deployment hurts local economy and undermines city autonomy. In California, federal judge rules that deployment is illegal because of violation of law limiting military in domestic law enforcement.
The FASCIST/SEX-OFFENDER in the Oval says Chicago ‘will find out why it’s called the Department of WAR’ ahead of planned, unlawful, "Gestapo-like" crackdown
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HEADLINES today . . .
The FASCIST/SEX-OFFENDER in the Oval says Chicago ‘will find out why it’s called the Department of WAR’ ahead of planned, unlawful, "Gestapo-like" crackdown
The FASCIST/SEX-OFFENDER in the Oval says Chicago ‘will find out why it’s called the Department of WAR’ ahead of planned, unlawful, "Gestapo-like" crackdown
In Washington DC, thousands of protesters demand withdrawal of national guard and federal control over local police. Cities welcome federal funding for crime prevention but not political theater of occupation by military.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
The FASCIST/SEX-OFFENDER in the Oval says Chicago ‘will find out why it’s called the Department of WAR’ ahead of planned, unlawful, "Gestapo-like" crackdown
In Washington DC, thousands of protesters demand withdrawal of national guard and federal control over local police. Cities welcome federal funding for crime prevention but not political theater of occupation by military.
@tryn2makeabuck Mike Johnson’s home district of Shreveport has a worse crime problem than Chicago does. Yet the felon isn’t planning on implementing martial law in Shreveport.….Trump doesn’t care about crime, Especially his own!
strange
so its just political
smear liberals and pardon everything maga
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
@tryn2makeabuck Mike Johnson’s home district of Shreveport has a worse crime problem than Chicago does. Yet the felon isn’t planning on implementing martial law in Shreveport.….Trump doesn’t care about crime, Especially his own!
@tryn2makeabuck Mike Johnson’s home district of Shreveport has a worse crime problem than Chicago does. Yet the felon isn’t planning on implementing martial law in Shreveport.….Trump doesn’t care about crime, Especially his own!
strange
so its just political
smear liberals and pardon everything maga
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
@tryn2makeabuck Mike Johnson’s home district of Shreveport has a worse crime problem than Chicago does. Yet the felon isn’t planning on implementing martial law in Shreveport.….Trump doesn’t care about crime, Especially his own!
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: The FASCIST/SEX-OFFENDER in the Oval says Chicago ‘will find out why it’s called the Department of WAR’ ahead of planned, unlawful, "Gestapo-like" crackdownIn Washington DC, thousands of protesters demand withdrawal of national guard and federal control over local police. Cities welcome federal funding for crime prevention but not political theater of occupation by military.
down with maga fascism
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: The FASCIST/SEX-OFFENDER in the Oval says Chicago ‘will find out why it’s called the Department of WAR’ ahead of planned, unlawful, "Gestapo-like" crackdownIn Washington DC, thousands of protesters demand withdrawal of national guard and federal control over local police. Cities welcome federal funding for crime prevention but not political theater of occupation by military.
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: The FASCIST/SEX-OFFENDER in the Oval says Chicago ‘will find out why it’s called the Department of WAR’ ahead of planned, unlawful, "Gestapo-like" crackdownIn Washington DC, thousands of protesters demand withdrawal of national guard and federal control over local police. Cities welcome federal funding for crime prevention but not political theater of occupation by military.
down with maga fascism
"I'm the MOST HONEST human being that GOD EVER created!" - Donald "the felon" Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: The FASCIST/SEX-OFFENDER in the Oval says Chicago ‘will find out why it’s called the Department of WAR’ ahead of planned, unlawful, "Gestapo-like" crackdownIn Washington DC, thousands of protesters demand withdrawal of national guard and federal control over local police. Cities welcome federal funding for crime prevention but not political theater of occupation by military.
Antifa is a perfect example. They are the true fascists attempting to project it on the right.!
According to wikipedia, antifa is a non-violent anti-fascist and anti-racist political movement. Right wing groups have tried to discredit antifa. But scholars found no equivalence between antifa and right wing extremism.
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Quote Originally Posted by jpot34:
Antifa is a perfect example. They are the true fascists attempting to project it on the right.!
According to wikipedia, antifa is a non-violent anti-fascist and anti-racist political movement. Right wing groups have tried to discredit antifa. But scholars found no equivalence between antifa and right wing extremism.
Quote Originally Posted by jpot34: Antifa is a perfect example. They are the true fascists attempting to project it on the right.! According to wikipedia, antifa is a non-violent anti-fascist and anti-racist political movement. Right wing groups have tried to discredit antifa. But scholars found no equivalence between antifa and right wing extremism.
More liberal gaslighting. I've witnessed Antifa violence with my own eyes. Both my home states are hot beds for Antifa. I think 98% percent of the people who identify with Antifa are peaceful and non-violent. That 2%, though, attacks people who believe differently than them, attacks law enforcement, attacks bystanders that are unlucky enough to be around, and destroys property to the tune of hundreds of millions, probably billions at this point. This is all pretty well documented.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by jpot34: Antifa is a perfect example. They are the true fascists attempting to project it on the right.! According to wikipedia, antifa is a non-violent anti-fascist and anti-racist political movement. Right wing groups have tried to discredit antifa. But scholars found no equivalence between antifa and right wing extremism.
More liberal gaslighting. I've witnessed Antifa violence with my own eyes. Both my home states are hot beds for Antifa. I think 98% percent of the people who identify with Antifa are peaceful and non-violent. That 2%, though, attacks people who believe differently than them, attacks law enforcement, attacks bystanders that are unlucky enough to be around, and destroys property to the tune of hundreds of millions, probably billions at this point. This is all pretty well documented.
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