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    WSOP main event winner to share his winnings

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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2007 - 5:32 PM ET #1

    LAS VEGAS -- World Series of Poker main event winner Jamie Gold has agreed to settle a dispute over half of the tournament's $12 million grand prize, The Associated Press has learned.

    In a joint, signed statement released Tuesday to the AP, Gold and Los Angeles-based TV producer Bruce Crispin Leyser agreed the matter should be resolved "without litigation."

    "Jamie always intended on sharing his winnings with Crispin," the statement says. "Jamie and Crispin are happy to report they have fully settled this matter. They are pleased to be closing this chapter and look forward to continued success."

    Gold, a former Hollywood agent before he turned poker pro, defeated 8,772 players to win the World Series of Poker tournament last summer in Las Vegas.

    The two did not make clear how much money Leyser would receive. Gold already withdrew $6 million, half of his take from winning the world's largest poker tournament. The rest was frozen by court order after Leyser sued in August, claiming they had agreed to split the winnings.

    Leyser said Gold agreed to the split in exchange for Leyser helping him find celebrities to play in the main event while wearing the "Bodog" label of an offshore Internet gambling site.

    Leyser even kept what he said was a voicemail Gold left on his phone on the final day of the tournament in which Gold promised to pay Leyser "your half."

    At a December court hearing, U.S. District Court Judge Roger L. Hunt rejected a motion by Gold's lawyers to lift an injunction set in September on the $6 million still at the tournament host, the Rio casino-hotel, and ordered the frozen funds be moved into an interest-bearing account.

    Hunt also indicated Leyser likely would win his claim to the $6 million.

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    LAS VEGAS -- World Series of Poker main event winner Jamie Gold has agreed to settle a dispute over half of the tournament's $12 million grand prize, The Associated Press has learned.

    In a joint, signed statement released Tuesday to the AP, Gold and Los Angeles-based TV producer Bruce Crispin Leyser agreed the matter should be resolved "without litigation."

    "Jamie always intended on sharing his winnings with Crispin," the statement says. "Jamie and Crispin are happy to report they have fully settled this matter. They are pleased to be closing this chapter and look forward to continued success."

    Gold, a former Hollywood agent before he turned poker pro, defeated 8,772 players to win the World Series of Poker tournament last summer in Las Vegas.

    The two did not make clear how much money Leyser would receive. Gold already withdrew $6 million, half of his take from winning the world's largest poker tournament. The rest was frozen by court order after Leyser sued in August, claiming they had agreed to split the winnings.

    Leyser said Gold agreed to the split in exchange for Leyser helping him find celebrities to play in the main event while wearing the "Bodog" label of an offshore Internet gambling site.

    Leyser even kept what he said was a voicemail Gold left on his phone on the final day of the tournament in which Gold promised to pay Leyser "your half."

    At a December court hearing, U.S. District Court Judge Roger L. Hunt rejected a motion by Gold's lawyers to lift an injunction set in September on the $6 million still at the tournament host, the Rio casino-hotel, and ordered the frozen funds be moved into an interest-bearing account.

    Hunt also indicated Leyser likely would win his claim to the $6 million.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2007 - 5:34 PM ET #2

    If I was the other guy I would have sued Gold for the 150,000 in interest he lost over the last 8 months.
    Gold is such a f*g for trying to screw someone out of their half of the winnings.What did he think the guy would just go away and forget about it
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    If I was the other guy I would have sued Gold for the 150,000 in interest he lost over the last 8 months.
    Gold is such a f*g for trying to screw someone out of their half of the winnings.What did he think the guy would just go away and forget about it
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2007 - 8:25 PM ET #3

    How is that gay? They merely had a verbal agreement, no signatures or anything, why jamie would offer to give half to the guy is beyond me, and i do think the guy deserves some but I think that is pretty ridiculous to hold him to a verbal agreement. Although the way jamie has been treating it, he was probably serious but i could imagine someone joking around like "Haha yeah, if i won that 12 million I'd split it with you." Maybe my thinking is out of line here.
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    How is that gay? They merely had a verbal agreement, no signatures or anything, why jamie would offer to give half to the guy is beyond me, and i do think the guy deserves some but I think that is pretty ridiculous to hold him to a verbal agreement. Although the way jamie has been treating it, he was probably serious but i could imagine someone joking around like "Haha yeah, if i won that 12 million I'd split it with you." Maybe my thinking is out of line here.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2007 - 9:05 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by spoondiggidy9:

    How is that gay? They merely had a verbal agreement, no signatures or anything, why jamie would offer to give half to the guy is beyond me, and i do think the guy deserves some but I think that is pretty ridiculous to hold him to a verbal agreement. Although the way jamie has been treating it, he was probably serious but i could imagine someone joking around like "Haha yeah, if i won that 12 million I'd split it with you." Maybe my thinking is out of line here.
     
    it's called honor
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoondiggidy9:

    How is that gay? They merely had a verbal agreement, no signatures or anything, why jamie would offer to give half to the guy is beyond me, and i do think the guy deserves some but I think that is pretty ridiculous to hold him to a verbal agreement. Although the way jamie has been treating it, he was probably serious but i could imagine someone joking around like "Haha yeah, if i won that 12 million I'd split it with you." Maybe my thinking is out of line here.
     
    it's called honor
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2007 - 10:20 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKurtz:

     
    it's called honor
     
    Exactly
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColonelKurtz:

     
    it's called honor
     
    Exactly
     
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2007 - 10:20 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by spoondiggidy9:

    How is that gay? They merely had a verbal agreement, no signatures or anything, why jamie would offer to give half to the guy is beyond me, and i do think the guy deserves some but I think that is pretty ridiculous to hold him to a verbal agreement. Although the way jamie has been treating it, he was probably serious but i could imagine someone joking around like "Haha yeah, if i won that 12 million I'd split it with you." Maybe my thinking is out of line here.
     
     
    From what I heard him and his friend got enough celebs signed up that they only had one seat to the tournment.It would either be Gold playing or his friend and whoever played would split any winnings and there was no joking about the deal if there had been he would have never held him to it.Who has ever heard of making a friend sign something when you make a dealSpoondiggity you must be one shady person
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoondiggidy9:

    How is that gay? They merely had a verbal agreement, no signatures or anything, why jamie would offer to give half to the guy is beyond me, and i do think the guy deserves some but I think that is pretty ridiculous to hold him to a verbal agreement. Although the way jamie has been treating it, he was probably serious but i could imagine someone joking around like "Haha yeah, if i won that 12 million I'd split it with you." Maybe my thinking is out of line here.
     
     
    From what I heard him and his friend got enough celebs signed up that they only had one seat to the tournment.It would either be Gold playing or his friend and whoever played would split any winnings and there was no joking about the deal if there had been he would have never held him to it.Who has ever heard of making a friend sign something when you make a dealSpoondiggity you must be one shady person
     
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2007 - 10:29 PM ET #7

    and when gold entered to play he never thought hed actually win it,he should of just payed right from the door .them poker pros make verbal bets and props like that all the time and like he said all we have is honor 
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    and when gold entered to play he never thought hed actually win it,he should of just payed right from the door .them poker pros make verbal bets and props like that all the time and like he said all we have is honor 
     
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    This is fucking ridiculous, first of all, who in the hell makes a verbal agreement for 6 million dollars, no doubt poker pros make the proposition bets and what not but, and call me crazy here, not for 6 mill. Also i dont see anywhere where it says that the two were friends, From what i infer based on the article, it seems like they are more business partners, Leyser, helped jamie find celebrities to play in the the event? Unless there is some sort of background knowledge that i am unaware of, no where does it say that they were friends.
     
    Here is something else, if jamie was so serious about this, and hell we will assume that they are friends even, but i still have my doubts on that, but regardless, why would jamie then, blatantly try to STEAL 6 million from him. What am i talking about? The court order that had the other 6 million frozen when jamie tried to access it, it is that honorable to try to take your "friends" 6 milllion dollar share at the wsop? If they were as serious as stated, what would make jamie think its a good idea to try to take out the 6 mill. Was he thinking, oh i should probably bring this buy his house in a box for him, what a good friend i am? I doubt it.
     
    I also cant believe that you all are taking shots at how honorable i am? Of course you have no background knowledge of me, and I can only vouch for myself, and i guess erik could as well, but still both of you, bobforme and colonelkrutz, are way out of line. I probably have the most credibility of any fucking person in my city. I have never not paid anyone when money is do, and i have had my fair share of debts to pay when going through rough times in poker. Actually paying off erik was the biggest debt ive had to pay off in my life after a mishap while playing online, ill spare the details. But who are you all to say that i am shady, and have a lack of honor because i think that the guy is being a prick asking for 6 million from his friend. Obviously you wouldnt ask your friend to sign a contract to you, but then again how could you sue your friend for 6 million?
     
    If thinking that suing your friend for 6 mill based off of a verbal agreement is out of line, then i guess that makes me a shady person. More shady than jamie gold trying to get the full 12 million out even knowing that he is suposed to give half to his "friend" and even more shady than Bruce coming to jamie, hands out, with obviously greed filled intent. Think about this, if they were truly friends, dont you think that they wouldve been able to solve this without going to court for it? Maybe Jamie didnt think it was that big of a deal then in which case it may have not been as serious a deal as you all thought.
     
    Im disgusted at the accusations towards me in this thread, basing my personal ethics off of my opinion on an obviously fucked up case between a dipshit and his acquaintance who were foolish enough to make a 6 million dollar verbal deal. If truly you two truly believe this about me, then i suppose you are entitled to your opinion, but i guess then again you two are the official judges on ethics.
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    This is fucking ridiculous, first of all, who in the hell makes a verbal agreement for 6 million dollars, no doubt poker pros make the proposition bets and what not but, and call me crazy here, not for 6 mill. Also i dont see anywhere where it says that the two were friends, From what i infer based on the article, it seems like they are more business partners, Leyser, helped jamie find celebrities to play in the the event? Unless there is some sort of background knowledge that i am unaware of, no where does it say that they were friends.
     
    Here is something else, if jamie was so serious about this, and hell we will assume that they are friends even, but i still have my doubts on that, but regardless, why would jamie then, blatantly try to STEAL 6 million from him. What am i talking about? The court order that had the other 6 million frozen when jamie tried to access it, it is that honorable to try to take your "friends" 6 milllion dollar share at the wsop? If they were as serious as stated, what would make jamie think its a good idea to try to take out the 6 mill. Was he thinking, oh i should probably bring this buy his house in a box for him, what a good friend i am? I doubt it.
     
    I also cant believe that you all are taking shots at how honorable i am? Of course you have no background knowledge of me, and I can only vouch for myself, and i guess erik could as well, but still both of you, bobforme and colonelkrutz, are way out of line. I probably have the most credibility of any fucking person in my city. I have never not paid anyone when money is do, and i have had my fair share of debts to pay when going through rough times in poker. Actually paying off erik was the biggest debt ive had to pay off in my life after a mishap while playing online, ill spare the details. But who are you all to say that i am shady, and have a lack of honor because i think that the guy is being a prick asking for 6 million from his friend. Obviously you wouldnt ask your friend to sign a contract to you, but then again how could you sue your friend for 6 million?
     
    If thinking that suing your friend for 6 mill based off of a verbal agreement is out of line, then i guess that makes me a shady person. More shady than jamie gold trying to get the full 12 million out even knowing that he is suposed to give half to his "friend" and even more shady than Bruce coming to jamie, hands out, with obviously greed filled intent. Think about this, if they were truly friends, dont you think that they wouldve been able to solve this without going to court for it? Maybe Jamie didnt think it was that big of a deal then in which case it may have not been as serious a deal as you all thought.
     
    Im disgusted at the accusations towards me in this thread, basing my personal ethics off of my opinion on an obviously fucked up case between a dipshit and his acquaintance who were foolish enough to make a 6 million dollar verbal deal. If truly you two truly believe this about me, then i suppose you are entitled to your opinion, but i guess then again you two are the official judges on ethics.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2007 - 10:46 AM ET #9

    who in the hell makes a verbal agreement for 6 million dollars
     
    jamie gold did.
     
     
    I also cant believe that you all are taking shots at how honorable i am? Of course you have no background knowledge of me, and I can only vouch for myself, and i guess erik could as well, but still both of you, bobforme and colonelkrutz, are way out of line.
     
    i didn't take a shot.  all i said was that you should go with what you've said, especially in the gambling world.  I've been burned many times before.  But, I rather be cheated than be a cheater.
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    who in the hell makes a verbal agreement for 6 million dollars
     
    jamie gold did.
     
     
    I also cant believe that you all are taking shots at how honorable i am? Of course you have no background knowledge of me, and I can only vouch for myself, and i guess erik could as well, but still both of you, bobforme and colonelkrutz, are way out of line.
     
    i didn't take a shot.  all i said was that you should go with what you've said, especially in the gambling world.  I've been burned many times before.  But, I rather be cheated than be a cheater.
     
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    first of all, who in the hell makes a verbal agreement for 6 million dollars
     
    People who don't expect that they will win that amount.  Look at Steve D. from last year. 
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    first of all, who in the hell makes a verbal agreement for 6 million dollars
     
    People who don't expect that they will win that amount.  Look at Steve D. from last year. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 8, 2007 - 6:18 PM ET #11

    ya jamie gold did, and that went over well, i was actually talking about a practical situation...
     
    if u said "i cant believe the guy called me for 800 with A high" and i said "its called skill" would you take offense to that?
     
    I guess the danenman situation is the same but there are also some big differences, first of all the deal with them was a big deal, how many times can you remember them saying "and by the way dannenman made a deal at the begining of the tournament saying that his friend, who put up half the buy in to this event, will be receiving half of the money." Everyone knew and that was a very precise deal, and im not saying that because its not public it doesnt count but, why is it that we never once heard jamie or anyone say anythign about this deal until a while after jamie won it? If I made that deal with my friend, then i know that i would probably be takling about, man my friend is gonna be happy with the deal, or something along those lines.
     
    Also in danenman's case his friend paid for half of th ebuy in which means it was like an investment, what kind of winning investment doesnt get any return?
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    ya jamie gold did, and that went over well, i was actually talking about a practical situation...
     
    if u said "i cant believe the guy called me for 800 with A high" and i said "its called skill" would you take offense to that?
     
    I guess the danenman situation is the same but there are also some big differences, first of all the deal with them was a big deal, how many times can you remember them saying "and by the way dannenman made a deal at the begining of the tournament saying that his friend, who put up half the buy in to this event, will be receiving half of the money." Everyone knew and that was a very precise deal, and im not saying that because its not public it doesnt count but, why is it that we never once heard jamie or anyone say anythign about this deal until a while after jamie won it? If I made that deal with my friend, then i know that i would probably be takling about, man my friend is gonna be happy with the deal, or something along those lines.
     
    Also in danenman's case his friend paid for half of th ebuy in which means it was like an investment, what kind of winning investment doesnt get any return?
     
    psadoug
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2007 - 12:38 AM ET #12

    i had my friend stake me 1k in a 2k wsop tourney and i would give him half my winnings. if i wouldve won i wouldve paid him. your right its called honor. unfortunately i didnt win and he lost 1k.
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    i had my friend stake me 1k in a 2k wsop tourney and i would give him half my winnings. if i wouldve won i wouldve paid him. your right its called honor. unfortunately i didnt win and he lost 1k.
     
    spoondiggidy9
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2007 - 1:39 AM ET #13

    i wish i didnt find it necesary to even respond to that but what is the point of even posting that...
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    i wish i didnt find it necesary to even respond to that but what is the point of even posting that...
     
     
    Erik17
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    Posted: Feb. 9, 2007 - 2:08 AM ET #14

    I agree with spoon, and yes I am Erik from his post earlier..
     
    First off, why would some1 make a verbal agreement over so much money (6 mil).  If your going to try to make an agreement to split winnings you should have some kind of recognition so it doesnt get mesed up like it is now. Jamie's offer was prob. legit but you cant know for sure.  He might have been just joking around.  Anyway, I don't see why yall are trying to figure out what is really right or wrong about this.  Stop accusing spoon of doing anything he is just puttin his input that actually makes sense and your trying to pick it apart.
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    I agree with spoon, and yes I am Erik from his post earlier..
     
    First off, why would some1 make a verbal agreement over so much money (6 mil).  If your going to try to make an agreement to split winnings you should have some kind of recognition so it doesnt get mesed up like it is now. Jamie's offer was prob. legit but you cant know for sure.  He might have been just joking around.  Anyway, I don't see why yall are trying to figure out what is really right or wrong about this.  Stop accusing spoon of doing anything he is just puttin his input that actually makes sense and your trying to pick it apart.
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