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    I played a 10-20NL $$ game vs a guy showing one card!!

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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2008 - 11:11 PM ET #1

    Don't Panic ..not a bad beat story, just a very strange way a guy I met pllays...
     
    Last night I played 20-40 NL at commerce casino during the LA poker classic,I played cash no tourneys.
     
    The games were LIVE there were three must move games into the main 20-40 NL game. Much bigger games also but I played 20-40.
    At my table before I went to the main game there was a guy showing one card once heads up EVERY TIME..... YOU CHOOSE THE CARD AND HE WAS WINNING.
    I was sitting next to a young kid with about 12k in front of him, we were astonished as we talked about it. I bought in for 10k  which was less then most guys had, some had 100k in front.
    So the guy (15k in front) plays loose and is in alot of pots showing bluffs, if no one calls, bottom line is he is an action player and seems like a good guy.
    I am on button....In first position he  makes it 200  we have four callers including me when the flop comes.
    I have 10-7 spades....flop is 3d 4s 7d..
    I have top pair back door flush draw, lousy kicker.....not much normally I am pretty done here if I here 3000 from anywhere.
    .. but the show me a card  guy bets 3000..everyone else folds to me, like I said normally I am gone BUT I get to see a card from monty hall down the table. I pick the card on his left, (he spreads em out) he shows me the 6h . So now there are only 4 cards in deck that can beat me all the 5's for the flopped straight. Question is He raised pre flop so 5 6 off?  or 5 6 of hearts from first position at an action game where it can get reraised preflop at any time to 1000? So I go in the tank  replay the hand in my heas and I push all in knowing that is his move on turn maybe I can chase him out here. because again all I have is top pair shitty kicker
    He calls and shows me the 5d 6h for the nut straight, it holds up and he beats me for a pot over 20k.
    Amazing thing is if I see the other card I muck, if I see the 5d he could have a flush draw with the over card that could beat me, straight flush, straight flush draw, straight draw of course, etc etc, I see that card even though I still have him possibly beat I do not call 3000 or push for 10000 into a pot of 1000. His unique play won him this pot.
    He was a good guy and made the usual apologies many of us make when we take down a big pot, he later introduced himself when we ran into each other on the floor, I was charging my iphone in the corner and ran into him coming back from mens room.  Like I said good guy.
    Interesting  how this guy plays isn't it? I still do not see how he can be a winning player, it worked this time but it makes no sense to me.
    Ever seen anyone who does this in relatively high stakes?
     Any ideas?
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    Don't Panic ..not a bad beat story, just a very strange way a guy I met pllays...
     
    Last night I played 20-40 NL at commerce casino during the LA poker classic,I played cash no tourneys.
     
    The games were LIVE there were three must move games into the main 20-40 NL game. Much bigger games also but I played 20-40.
    At my table before I went to the main game there was a guy showing one card once heads up EVERY TIME..... YOU CHOOSE THE CARD AND HE WAS WINNING.
    I was sitting next to a young kid with about 12k in front of him, we were astonished as we talked about it. I bought in for 10k  which was less then most guys had, some had 100k in front.
    So the guy (15k in front) plays loose and is in alot of pots showing bluffs, if no one calls, bottom line is he is an action player and seems like a good guy.
    I am on button....In first position he  makes it 200  we have four callers including me when the flop comes.
    I have 10-7 spades....flop is 3d 4s 7d..
    I have top pair back door flush draw, lousy kicker.....not much normally I am pretty done here if I here 3000 from anywhere.
    .. but the show me a card  guy bets 3000..everyone else folds to me, like I said normally I am gone BUT I get to see a card from monty hall down the table. I pick the card on his left, (he spreads em out) he shows me the 6h . So now there are only 4 cards in deck that can beat me all the 5's for the flopped straight. Question is He raised pre flop so 5 6 off?  or 5 6 of hearts from first position at an action game where it can get reraised preflop at any time to 1000? So I go in the tank  replay the hand in my heas and I push all in knowing that is his move on turn maybe I can chase him out here. because again all I have is top pair shitty kicker
    He calls and shows me the 5d 6h for the nut straight, it holds up and he beats me for a pot over 20k.
    Amazing thing is if I see the other card I muck, if I see the 5d he could have a flush draw with the over card that could beat me, straight flush, straight flush draw, straight draw of course, etc etc, I see that card even though I still have him possibly beat I do not call 3000 or push for 10000 into a pot of 1000. His unique play won him this pot.
    He was a good guy and made the usual apologies many of us make when we take down a big pot, he later introduced himself when we ran into each other on the floor, I was charging my iphone in the corner and ran into him coming back from mens room.  Like I said good guy.
    Interesting  how this guy plays isn't it? I still do not see how he can be a winning player, it worked this time but it makes no sense to me.
    Ever seen anyone who does this in relatively high stakes?
     Any ideas?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2008 - 1:27 AM ET #2

    I have seen assholes that wanted to play with both cards up for some reason and since it wasn't against the rules then it was allowed, kinda puts you at an incredible disadvantage though.
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    I have seen assholes that wanted to play with both cards up for some reason and since it wasn't against the rules then it was allowed, kinda puts you at an incredible disadvantage though.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2008 - 1:35 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather16:

    I have seen assholes that wanted to play with both cards up for some reason and since it wasn't against the rules then it was allowed, kinda puts you at an incredible disadvantage though.

    Both cards???? wow now I have officially heard everything. Both cards is not a disadvantage though at all, you KNOW if you are ahead. I truly believe one card also is insane,only in rare cases like the one I detailed can it trip you up. What type of stakes have you seen someone show both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather16:

    I have seen assholes that wanted to play with both cards up for some reason and since it wasn't against the rules then it was allowed, kinda puts you at an incredible disadvantage though.

    Both cards???? wow now I have officially heard everything. Both cards is not a disadvantage though at all, you KNOW if you are ahead. I truly believe one card also is insane,only in rare cases like the one I detailed can it trip you up. What type of stakes have you seen someone show both?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2008 - 2:41 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather16:

    I have seen assholes that wanted to play with both cards up for some reason and since it wasn't against the rules then it was allowed, kinda puts you at an incredible disadvantage though.

    ill play doyle heads up if he shows me both his cards ....how th fuck is that a disatvantage for me

    wat up brother dog

    that is some wacky stuff , sounds like the guy has a whole lotta money and just likes action and thrills n stuff . There are all kinds of people out there especially where you are at (vegas)

     

    ALWAYSLIMP WITH ......

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfather16:

    I have seen assholes that wanted to play with both cards up for some reason and since it wasn't against the rules then it was allowed, kinda puts you at an incredible disadvantage though.

    ill play doyle heads up if he shows me both his cards ....how th fuck is that a disatvantage for me

    wat up brother dog

    that is some wacky stuff , sounds like the guy has a whole lotta money and just likes action and thrills n stuff . There are all kinds of people out there especially where you are at (vegas)

     

    ALWAYSLIMP WITH ......

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2008 - 9:07 PM ET #5

    whoa whoa whoa.....the 2 cars face up thing is wrong....
     
    the trick comes from Doyle Brunson himself....its not allowed in tournaments anymore but in case games when its heads up you can do it....
     
    Lets say your playing heads up....
    your opponent goes ALL-IN or makes a big bet late.....
    its on you to call or fold....
    you can turn your cards over and watch how the player reacts to seeing your cards....
    as long as you don't motion your cards to the muck, its a legal play and your cards are still live....
     
    you get a read on your opponent, then make your call....
     
    it works great.....
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    whoa whoa whoa.....the 2 cars face up thing is wrong....
     
    the trick comes from Doyle Brunson himself....its not allowed in tournaments anymore but in case games when its heads up you can do it....
     
    Lets say your playing heads up....
    your opponent goes ALL-IN or makes a big bet late.....
    its on you to call or fold....
    you can turn your cards over and watch how the player reacts to seeing your cards....
    as long as you don't motion your cards to the muck, its a legal play and your cards are still live....
     
    you get a read on your opponent, then make your call....
     
    it works great.....
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2008 - 9:28 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by powerade:

    whoa whoa whoa.....the 2 cars face up thing is wrong....
     
    the trick comes from Doyle Brunson himself....its not allowed in tournaments anymore but in case games when its heads up you can do it....
     
    Lets say your playing heads up....
    your opponent goes ALL-IN or makes a big bet late.....
    its on you to call or fold....
    you can turn your cards over and watch how the player reacts to seeing your cards....
    as long as you don't motion your cards to the muck, its a legal play and your cards are still live....
     
    you get a read on your opponent, then make your call....
     
    it works great.....

    Power,

    I am very familiar with this manuever doyle employs, but this is done AFTER YOUR OPPONENT HAS ACTED. It is 100% different, in your case your opponent can no longer change his situation. The guy I was playing was the one who made the bet and was showing you his card AND THEN I GET TO ACT..AND AGAIN I PICK THE CARD I SEE. It is so sick.

    I agree the brunson move is useful, but it is 100% different

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerade:

    whoa whoa whoa.....the 2 cars face up thing is wrong....
     
    the trick comes from Doyle Brunson himself....its not allowed in tournaments anymore but in case games when its heads up you can do it....
     
    Lets say your playing heads up....
    your opponent goes ALL-IN or makes a big bet late.....
    its on you to call or fold....
    you can turn your cards over and watch how the player reacts to seeing your cards....
    as long as you don't motion your cards to the muck, its a legal play and your cards are still live....
     
    you get a read on your opponent, then make your call....
     
    it works great.....

    Power,

    I am very familiar with this manuever doyle employs, but this is done AFTER YOUR OPPONENT HAS ACTED. It is 100% different, in your case your opponent can no longer change his situation. The guy I was playing was the one who made the bet and was showing you his card AND THEN I GET TO ACT..AND AGAIN I PICK THE CARD I SEE. It is so sick.

    I agree the brunson move is useful, but it is 100% different

     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2008 - 9:34 PM ET #7

    [Quote: Originally Posted by angelobruno]

    ill play doyle heads up if he shows me both his cards ....how th fuck is that a disatvantage for me

    wat up brother dog

    that is some wacky stuff , sounds like the guy has a whole lotta money and just likes action and thrills n stuff . There are all kinds of people out there especially where you are at (vegas)

     

    ALWAYSLIMP WITH ......

     

    Angelo,

     

    BABY I TOOK ALL YOUR ADVICE I SLOW PLAYED JACKS, PLAYED ANY SUITED CARDS, CALLED ALL RAISES WITH ACE HIGH AND I LOST MY SHIRT..WHATS WRONG WITH YOU??????

    nice to see you partner

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by angelobruno]

    ill play doyle heads up if he shows me both his cards ....how th fuck is that a disatvantage for me

    wat up brother dog

    that is some wacky stuff , sounds like the guy has a whole lotta money and just likes action and thrills n stuff . There are all kinds of people out there especially where you are at (vegas)

     

    ALWAYSLIMP WITH ......

     

    Angelo,

     

    BABY I TOOK ALL YOUR ADVICE I SLOW PLAYED JACKS, PLAYED ANY SUITED CARDS, CALLED ALL RAISES WITH ACE HIGH AND I LOST MY SHIRT..WHATS WRONG WITH YOU??????

    nice to see you partner

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2008 - 11:08 PM ET #8

    I meant it is a big disadvantage for a player to show both of his cards, early in the hand or before the flop, I mean if you do it every hand like I have seen guys do, you will only get action from hands that are ahead or that beat you.
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    I meant it is a big disadvantage for a player to show both of his cards, early in the hand or before the flop, I mean if you do it every hand like I have seen guys do, you will only get action from hands that are ahead or that beat you.
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