how many russ hamilton's do u think are out there?
all these scam artists that are super users seeing whole cards taking over 20 million dollars of legitimate players money and u still play online poker ? U gotta figure maybe 1 percent of the people cheating online actually get caught , their are still more russ hamiltons out there trust me anyone see how there was a list on sharkscope people that were making hundreds of thousands of dollars who would just disappear and their account names would never show up again this happens over and over the cheaters are smart they make hundreds of thousands on 1 account then they make a new one rinse and repeat all the while the good honest people keep wondering why they get so many bad beats online. quit online poker its a scam.
1 question
So youre getting scammed by a "superuser" like you talk about here. My question is at the end you say "then they make a new one rinse and repeat all the while the good honest people keep wondering why they get so many bad beats online"
So superusers now can not only see YOUR cards but also what the upcoming turn and river cards are??? Nice to see that youve taken a proven scandal and just added a few of your personal lies to go with it to make it look better.
This is why Im such a diick to you morons. You guys just make shit up. You coulda talked about the Hamilton scandal and wondered if there are others and maybe made some people think. However, when you talk about how because of this, "more honest players take beats" it just shows how little you really know and understand anything
Oh and by the way, Im up over $4100 in August already
What a fukn scam. Sorry youre no good at cards pal
all these scam artists that are super users seeing whole cards taking over 20 million dollars of legitimate players money and u still play online poker ? U gotta figure maybe 1 percent of the people cheating online actually get caught , their are still more russ hamiltons out there trust me anyone see how there was a list on sharkscope people that were making hundreds of thousands of dollars who would just disappear and their account names would never show up again this happens over and over the cheaters are smart they make hundreds of thousands on 1 account then they make a new one rinse and repeat all the while the good honest people keep wondering why they get so many bad beats online. quit online poker its a scam.
1 question
So youre getting scammed by a "superuser" like you talk about here. My question is at the end you say "then they make a new one rinse and repeat all the while the good honest people keep wondering why they get so many bad beats online"
So superusers now can not only see YOUR cards but also what the upcoming turn and river cards are??? Nice to see that youve taken a proven scandal and just added a few of your personal lies to go with it to make it look better.
This is why Im such a diick to you morons. You guys just make shit up. You coulda talked about the Hamilton scandal and wondered if there are others and maybe made some people think. However, when you talk about how because of this, "more honest players take beats" it just shows how little you really know and understand anything
Oh and by the way, Im up over $4100 in August already
What a fukn scam. Sorry youre no good at cards pal
1 question
So youre getting scammed by a "superuser" like you talk about here. My question is at the end you say "then they make a new one rinse and repeat all the while the good honest people keep wondering why they get so many bad beats online"
So superusers now can not only see YOUR cards but also what the upcoming turn and river cards are??? Nice to see that youve taken a proven scandal and just added a few of your personal lies to go with it to make it look better.
This is why Im such a diick to you morons. You guys just make shit up. You coulda talked about the Hamilton scandal and wondered if there are others and maybe made some people think. However, when you talk about how because of this, "more honest players take beats" it just shows how little you really know and understand anything
Oh and by the way, Im up over $4100 in August already
What a fukn scam. Sorry youre no good at cards pal
just shows how clueless u are pal. I play live 5 days a week at a real poker room where the buy in is 500 to 1000 dollars i have the benefit of living in florida where the stakes have changed and no limit is now available. i dont have to play online with a bunch of scam artists. You keep talkin all this crap yet never have posted anything to back it up , whats ur online id?
1 question
So youre getting scammed by a "superuser" like you talk about here. My question is at the end you say "then they make a new one rinse and repeat all the while the good honest people keep wondering why they get so many bad beats online"
So superusers now can not only see YOUR cards but also what the upcoming turn and river cards are??? Nice to see that youve taken a proven scandal and just added a few of your personal lies to go with it to make it look better.
This is why Im such a diick to you morons. You guys just make shit up. You coulda talked about the Hamilton scandal and wondered if there are others and maybe made some people think. However, when you talk about how because of this, "more honest players take beats" it just shows how little you really know and understand anything
Oh and by the way, Im up over $4100 in August already
What a fukn scam. Sorry youre no good at cards pal
just shows how clueless u are pal. I play live 5 days a week at a real poker room where the buy in is 500 to 1000 dollars i have the benefit of living in florida where the stakes have changed and no limit is now available. i dont have to play online with a bunch of scam artists. You keep talkin all this crap yet never have posted anything to back it up , whats ur online id?
heres another good article about the payment processors continually getting assualted by the fbi, u wonder why its hard to get a payout from these sites.
Feds Take Cash, Not Cooperation, in PokerStars Payment Case
According to court documents filed this week in Manhattan, prosecutors claim that the confiscated funds – characterized as “proceeds of operating an illegal gambling business” – were deposited into those accounts over a six-month period ended May 2009.
“These funds are traceable to PokerStars, an online gambling company based in the Isle of Man, and other offshore companies,” prosecutors alleged in a civil forfeiture complaint. “They include proceeds of the illegal transmission of gambling information and operating an illegal gambling business.”
Under a separate settlement agreement reached Tuesday, however, neither Khawaja nor his companies will be rung up on any charges.
Moreover, under that agreement, approximately $2.5m will be returned to Khawaja because it was held on behalf of other Allied Wallet and Allied Systems clients not involved with the unlawful activity in question.
Significantly, there was no language in the agreement obliging Khawaja to cooperate in the Justice Department’s ongoing investigation into illegal internet gambling businesses.
An assistant to Robert Shapiro, who is Khawaja’s attorney in Los Angeles, told GamblingCompliance that Shapiro was out of the country and unable to comment before press time Tuesday evening.
PokerStars, meanwhile, has said that according to numerous legal opinions it has received, “its activities in the US are and at all times have been legal.”
The Isle of Man licensed operator also stated, “PokerStars does not condone efforts by processors to conceal the nature or purpose of funds used to play online poker”.
“PokerStars has taken steps to ensure that processors properly disclose the nature of their business to their relevant financial institutions.”
In recent years, however, offshore gambling operators – including Absolute Poker, Golden Casino, Full Tilt and PokerStars – have been cited by federal prosecutors, law-enforcement agents or their confidential informants in connection with financial crimes allegedly perpetrated by payment processors throughout the US and Caribbean.
For its part, this week’s settlement agreement parts ways – decidedly so – with recent enforcement action against some of those processors.
In May, Douglas Rennick– who was indicted in connection with Account Services, a company that allegedly transferred winnings to PokerStars’ customers in the US – pleaded guilty to violating the Wire Act and forfeited $17m in proceeds in exchange for a reduced prison sentence.
Also that month, Daniel Tzvetkoff, who was accused of federal money laundering and bank fraud in April, pleaded not guilty to those charges.
Tzvetkoff, who ran the Costa Rica-registered payment processor Intabill, had been sued in Australia in 2009 by a Full Tilt operating subsidiary, which alleged Tzvetkoff had absconded with A52m owed to poker players there.
Tzvetkoff, an Australian national, awaits trial in New York.
In March, Michael Olaf Schuett – who was indicted in connection with numerous shell companies in Florida that transferred winnings to Absolute Poker and Ultimate Bet’s customers in the US – pleaded guilty to operating an unlawful money-transmitting business.
Schuett awaits sentencing in Florida.
According to redacted affidavits (link to document) unsealed in August 2009 by a federal judge in the Southern District of New York, the FBI’s financial crimes unit has been investigating illegal internet gambling businesses since 2006.
Earlier busts and settlements, however, suggest the existence of multiple investigations running out of multiple field offices.
Prosecutors in New York began by targeting publicly traded groups in 2003, when PayPal agreed to settle for $10m. It was followed by Neteller (2007: $136 million), Citadel Commerce (2008: $9m) and, most recently, Optimal Group (2009: $19.1m).
It was not until 2008 that bank accounts belonging to a privately held processor were seized. That year, Zip Payments lost $14.2m and JBL Service lost $9.8m as part of an investigation spearheaded by federal authorities in Maryland.
In 2009, efforts markedly intensified. State and federal law enforcement authorities seized bank accounts belonging to at least six different privately held payment processing entities.
There was Account Services, from which at least $14m was seized in June of that year. Account Services – action against which was brought by federal authorities in New York – was one of five companies allegedly controlled by Rennick.
June also saw warrants effected against bank accounts belonging to Allied Wallet and Allied Systems – Khawaja’s companies – and in July, another processor called Electracash was hit.
In August, warrants were issued against bank accounts belonging to Forshay Enterprises, and in September, bank accounts belonging to two other processors – HMD Inc. and Atrium Financial Group – were also seized.
Electracash, Forshay, HMD and Atrium Financial and their accounts were all targeted by federal authorities in Maryland.
The Justice Department does not comment on ongoing investigations.
A spokeswoman declined to answer questions for this article about its investigation, or investigations, into illegal internet gambling.
heres another good article about the payment processors continually getting assualted by the fbi, u wonder why its hard to get a payout from these sites.
Feds Take Cash, Not Cooperation, in PokerStars Payment Case
According to court documents filed this week in Manhattan, prosecutors claim that the confiscated funds – characterized as “proceeds of operating an illegal gambling business” – were deposited into those accounts over a six-month period ended May 2009.
“These funds are traceable to PokerStars, an online gambling company based in the Isle of Man, and other offshore companies,” prosecutors alleged in a civil forfeiture complaint. “They include proceeds of the illegal transmission of gambling information and operating an illegal gambling business.”
Under a separate settlement agreement reached Tuesday, however, neither Khawaja nor his companies will be rung up on any charges.
Moreover, under that agreement, approximately $2.5m will be returned to Khawaja because it was held on behalf of other Allied Wallet and Allied Systems clients not involved with the unlawful activity in question.
Significantly, there was no language in the agreement obliging Khawaja to cooperate in the Justice Department’s ongoing investigation into illegal internet gambling businesses.
An assistant to Robert Shapiro, who is Khawaja’s attorney in Los Angeles, told GamblingCompliance that Shapiro was out of the country and unable to comment before press time Tuesday evening.
PokerStars, meanwhile, has said that according to numerous legal opinions it has received, “its activities in the US are and at all times have been legal.”
The Isle of Man licensed operator also stated, “PokerStars does not condone efforts by processors to conceal the nature or purpose of funds used to play online poker”.
“PokerStars has taken steps to ensure that processors properly disclose the nature of their business to their relevant financial institutions.”
In recent years, however, offshore gambling operators – including Absolute Poker, Golden Casino, Full Tilt and PokerStars – have been cited by federal prosecutors, law-enforcement agents or their confidential informants in connection with financial crimes allegedly perpetrated by payment processors throughout the US and Caribbean.
For its part, this week’s settlement agreement parts ways – decidedly so – with recent enforcement action against some of those processors.
In May, Douglas Rennick– who was indicted in connection with Account Services, a company that allegedly transferred winnings to PokerStars’ customers in the US – pleaded guilty to violating the Wire Act and forfeited $17m in proceeds in exchange for a reduced prison sentence.
Also that month, Daniel Tzvetkoff, who was accused of federal money laundering and bank fraud in April, pleaded not guilty to those charges.
Tzvetkoff, who ran the Costa Rica-registered payment processor Intabill, had been sued in Australia in 2009 by a Full Tilt operating subsidiary, which alleged Tzvetkoff had absconded with A52m owed to poker players there.
Tzvetkoff, an Australian national, awaits trial in New York.
In March, Michael Olaf Schuett – who was indicted in connection with numerous shell companies in Florida that transferred winnings to Absolute Poker and Ultimate Bet’s customers in the US – pleaded guilty to operating an unlawful money-transmitting business.
Schuett awaits sentencing in Florida.
According to redacted affidavits (link to document) unsealed in August 2009 by a federal judge in the Southern District of New York, the FBI’s financial crimes unit has been investigating illegal internet gambling businesses since 2006.
Earlier busts and settlements, however, suggest the existence of multiple investigations running out of multiple field offices.
Prosecutors in New York began by targeting publicly traded groups in 2003, when PayPal agreed to settle for $10m. It was followed by Neteller (2007: $136 million), Citadel Commerce (2008: $9m) and, most recently, Optimal Group (2009: $19.1m).
It was not until 2008 that bank accounts belonging to a privately held processor were seized. That year, Zip Payments lost $14.2m and JBL Service lost $9.8m as part of an investigation spearheaded by federal authorities in Maryland.
In 2009, efforts markedly intensified. State and federal law enforcement authorities seized bank accounts belonging to at least six different privately held payment processing entities.
There was Account Services, from which at least $14m was seized in June of that year. Account Services – action against which was brought by federal authorities in New York – was one of five companies allegedly controlled by Rennick.
June also saw warrants effected against bank accounts belonging to Allied Wallet and Allied Systems – Khawaja’s companies – and in July, another processor called Electracash was hit.
In August, warrants were issued against bank accounts belonging to Forshay Enterprises, and in September, bank accounts belonging to two other processors – HMD Inc. and Atrium Financial Group – were also seized.
Electracash, Forshay, HMD and Atrium Financial and their accounts were all targeted by federal authorities in Maryland.
The Justice Department does not comment on ongoing investigations.
A spokeswoman declined to answer questions for this article about its investigation, or investigations, into illegal internet gambling.
just shows how clueless u are pal. I play live 5 days a week at a real poker room where the buy in is 500 to 1000 dollars i have the benefit of living in florida where the stakes have changed and no limit is now available. i dont have to play online with a bunch of scam artists. You keep talkin all this crap yet never have posted anything to back it up , whats ur online id?
Ive never posted my ID or backed anything up????
whatever u say pal
and the lies continue
just shows how clueless u are pal. I play live 5 days a week at a real poker room where the buy in is 500 to 1000 dollars i have the benefit of living in florida where the stakes have changed and no limit is now available. i dont have to play online with a bunch of scam artists. You keep talkin all this crap yet never have posted anything to back it up , whats ur online id?
Ive never posted my ID or backed anything up????
whatever u say pal
and the lies continue
I really dont know why I argue with you rigtards. Youre just so fukn clueless
Oh, and by the way, up over $4500 in August. What a fukn scam
Sorry youre not good enough to beat the online game and sorry you cant lie about your results online like you do live and say youre a "big winner"
I really dont know why I argue with you rigtards. Youre just so fukn clueless
Oh, and by the way, up over $4500 in August. What a fukn scam
Sorry youre not good enough to beat the online game and sorry you cant lie about your results online like you do live and say youre a "big winner"
OF COURSE there is cheating on line. TONS of cheating
I go to 2p2 but talk about a bunch of sarcastic pricks lol
OF COURSE there is cheating on line. TONS of cheating
I go to 2p2 but talk about a bunch of sarcastic pricks lol
Multiply this by thousands on the internet.
Money moves up the food chain in the poker world, and at the top are the people who have the biggest edge.
The Ultimate edge is being able to see everyone's hole cards. This trumps the groups of experts colluding, the bots, the heads up displays with real time statistics, and the amateurs sharing hole cards info over AIM or there cell phones.
Somewhere between the teams of pros group playing folks, and the Bots, are the people with skill.
The Super User scam took 10's of millions of dollars from the poker economy and wrecked some pro's like Prahlad Friedman and Mike Matusow. If done with discipline it could have gone on forever.
Yes there are more Russ Hamilton's out there.
Multiply this by thousands on the internet.
Money moves up the food chain in the poker world, and at the top are the people who have the biggest edge.
The Ultimate edge is being able to see everyone's hole cards. This trumps the groups of experts colluding, the bots, the heads up displays with real time statistics, and the amateurs sharing hole cards info over AIM or there cell phones.
Somewhere between the teams of pros group playing folks, and the Bots, are the people with skill.
The Super User scam took 10's of millions of dollars from the poker economy and wrecked some pro's like Prahlad Friedman and Mike Matusow. If done with discipline it could have gone on forever.
Yes there are more Russ Hamilton's out there.
People have and do cheat in live poker games all the time.
Multiply this by thousands on the internet.
Money moves up the food chain in the poker world, and at the top are the people who have the biggest edge.
The Ultimate edge is being able to see everyone's hole cards. This trumps the groups of experts colluding, the bots, the heads up displays with real time statistics, and the amateurs sharing hole cards info over AIM or there cell phones.
Somewhere between the teams of pros group playing folks, and the Bots, are the people with skill.
The Super User scam took 10's of millions of dollars from the poker economy and wrecked some pro's like Prahlad Friedman and Mike Matusow. If done with discipline it could have gone on forever.
Yes there are more Russ Hamilton's out there.
LOL matusow using Russ an as excuse as to why hes in the shitter, just classic
People have and do cheat in live poker games all the time.
Multiply this by thousands on the internet.
Money moves up the food chain in the poker world, and at the top are the people who have the biggest edge.
The Ultimate edge is being able to see everyone's hole cards. This trumps the groups of experts colluding, the bots, the heads up displays with real time statistics, and the amateurs sharing hole cards info over AIM or there cell phones.
Somewhere between the teams of pros group playing folks, and the Bots, are the people with skill.
The Super User scam took 10's of millions of dollars from the poker economy and wrecked some pro's like Prahlad Friedman and Mike Matusow. If done with discipline it could have gone on forever.
Yes there are more Russ Hamilton's out there.
LOL matusow using Russ an as excuse as to why hes in the shitter, just classic
Online poker plagued by scandals in 2010
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- Published July 26th, 2010 in Poker
It’s been an interesting year for online poker in regards to cheating and scandals. On the one hand there have been a number of incidents including several incidents at major online poker rooms.
First there was a large group -rumored to be several dozen players-of online poker players in China were caught colluding at PokerStars in the Double of Nothing Sit & Go Tournaments, bilking hundreds of thousands of dollars from unsuspecting players.
There was also the recent discovery of winning Poker Bots on PokerStars at the $50-$200 NLHE tables. The bots were able to win some $58,000 over roughly 8 million hands of poker, and this is the first known case of WINNING poker bots -a truly scary prospect for online poker players, and one the online poker rooms will definitely have to deal with to alleviate the fears of their customers.
And earlier this year we were informed of Nick ‘StoxTrader’ Grudzien’s multi-accounting on both PokerStars and Full Tilt Poker, and the even scarier prospect of his possible collusion in the highest stakes online games.
Online poker plagued by scandals in 2010
- Comments: (0)
- Published July 26th, 2010 in Poker
It’s been an interesting year for online poker in regards to cheating and scandals. On the one hand there have been a number of incidents including several incidents at major online poker rooms.
First there was a large group -rumored to be several dozen players-of online poker players in China were caught colluding at PokerStars in the Double of Nothing Sit & Go Tournaments, bilking hundreds of thousands of dollars from unsuspecting players.
There was also the recent discovery of winning Poker Bots on PokerStars at the $50-$200 NLHE tables. The bots were able to win some $58,000 over roughly 8 million hands of poker, and this is the first known case of WINNING poker bots -a truly scary prospect for online poker players, and one the online poker rooms will definitely have to deal with to alleviate the fears of their customers.
And earlier this year we were informed of Nick ‘StoxTrader’ Grudzien’s multi-accounting on both PokerStars and Full Tilt Poker, and the even scarier prospect of his possible collusion in the highest stakes online games.
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