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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2007 - 5:52 PM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhound:

    You know what is SAD about it?
     
    Online Poker could be such a great thing if there was some way to make sure it wasn't Rigged.
     
    In the end corrupt Human beings ruin everything.    There is always a certain percentage of people that want to cheat at everything.    

     

    Everything you say is TRUE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhound:

    You know what is SAD about it?
     
    Online Poker could be such a great thing if there was some way to make sure it wasn't Rigged.
     
    In the end corrupt Human beings ruin everything.    There is always a certain percentage of people that want to cheat at everything.    

     

    Everything you say is TRUE

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2007 - 3:26 PM ET #102

    Quote Originally Posted by HHIPoker:

    I play at Full Tilt all the time and is where I started playing.  You must learn the game and learn a style that suits you.  Are you a cash game player or a tourney player?  I have tried to play the cash games and it just doesn't suit me.  I play in the sit & go's and the tourneys and find myself doing much better.  What is your style? Are you over agressive or a conservative patient player?  I have found that the bad beats come more often in the lower stake games because more players are willing to take the risk because they put such a small amount.  I find much more consitent play in the higher stake games.
     
    Bad beats is poker.  That is part of the game.  You have to shrug it off and move on.  The bad beat you took, was it really a bad beat or did you make a bad play?  Those poket kings don't look as strong once an ace hits on the flop do they?  I can't recall any bad beats that have got me to the point of quiting but I remember a few.  No big deal, that's poker.
     
    I will share my favorite Full Tilt momment and only because I was on the winning side.  I had QQ and went all in, another guy had KK and went all in, and another guy had AA and went all in.  Flop came with two Q's and I won the had.  I do not remember if I won that sit & go but I will never forget that hand.
     
    I have a hardtime believing that a poker site that is tied to so many of the top pros would be rigged.
     
    I agree with the others that say due to the volume of hands that you see online you are gonna see some wierd stuff, but that is the statitisics of the game.  I have had my pokect A's cracked plenty of times.
     
    I forget who said it but poker is a game of hours of boredom with seconds of shear panic.
     
    Some people also say that this is a game of aggression.  I disagree.  This is a game of patients with thought out agression.


    I hear ya..... just dicking around w/ the dollar NL tables I've seen plenty of crazy shit that shouldn't happen ... but of course does when players call 6xBB preflop raises w/ K8off early.  i just stick to the 5/10 SNG and a MTT if i got the time to get my kicks.  crazy shit there too but it usually calms down after 3-4 levels.  the recent AP scandal stuff doesn't help the cause or ease anybody's worries though.  and yeah AP ONLY acknowledged it when the 2nd place "winner" started jumping on the soapbox.  what incentive do they have to police something like that if 'nobody' is aware of it.  it first acknowledges that ANY site is vulnerable to computer/ software attacks... hell i'm sure there's a genius 15 year kid w/ a face full of acne trying to figure out a way to exploit a site right now as we speak. there's just WAY too much money not too for these brilliant computer types.. < hell if you were a techno wiz wouldn't you be tempted to do the same? >  and one more thing..... anybody in the tech field will tell you over and over again.. ANY computer is at risk for being exploited.  There is not now and never will be a foolproof 100% hackproof/safe system.  that's just the way it is.  it doesn't help either that a lot of these sites are offshore w/ absolutely no monitoring.  like someone else pointed out.. Greed is everywhere regardless of how much $$$$ is coming in and it makes it a WHOLE lot easier to operate in the shade if there's not a huge pesky federal government making at least an attempt to make sure your on the up and up.  

    just my .02
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    Quote Originally Posted by HHIPoker:

    I play at Full Tilt all the time and is where I started playing.  You must learn the game and learn a style that suits you.  Are you a cash game player or a tourney player?  I have tried to play the cash games and it just doesn't suit me.  I play in the sit & go's and the tourneys and find myself doing much better.  What is your style? Are you over agressive or a conservative patient player?  I have found that the bad beats come more often in the lower stake games because more players are willing to take the risk because they put such a small amount.  I find much more consitent play in the higher stake games.
     
    Bad beats is poker.  That is part of the game.  You have to shrug it off and move on.  The bad beat you took, was it really a bad beat or did you make a bad play?  Those poket kings don't look as strong once an ace hits on the flop do they?  I can't recall any bad beats that have got me to the point of quiting but I remember a few.  No big deal, that's poker.
     
    I will share my favorite Full Tilt momment and only because I was on the winning side.  I had QQ and went all in, another guy had KK and went all in, and another guy had AA and went all in.  Flop came with two Q's and I won the had.  I do not remember if I won that sit & go but I will never forget that hand.
     
    I have a hardtime believing that a poker site that is tied to so many of the top pros would be rigged.
     
    I agree with the others that say due to the volume of hands that you see online you are gonna see some wierd stuff, but that is the statitisics of the game.  I have had my pokect A's cracked plenty of times.
     
    I forget who said it but poker is a game of hours of boredom with seconds of shear panic.
     
    Some people also say that this is a game of aggression.  I disagree.  This is a game of patients with thought out agression.


    I hear ya..... just dicking around w/ the dollar NL tables I've seen plenty of crazy shit that shouldn't happen ... but of course does when players call 6xBB preflop raises w/ K8off early.  i just stick to the 5/10 SNG and a MTT if i got the time to get my kicks.  crazy shit there too but it usually calms down after 3-4 levels.  the recent AP scandal stuff doesn't help the cause or ease anybody's worries though.  and yeah AP ONLY acknowledged it when the 2nd place "winner" started jumping on the soapbox.  what incentive do they have to police something like that if 'nobody' is aware of it.  it first acknowledges that ANY site is vulnerable to computer/ software attacks... hell i'm sure there's a genius 15 year kid w/ a face full of acne trying to figure out a way to exploit a site right now as we speak. there's just WAY too much money not too for these brilliant computer types.. < hell if you were a techno wiz wouldn't you be tempted to do the same? >  and one more thing..... anybody in the tech field will tell you over and over again.. ANY computer is at risk for being exploited.  There is not now and never will be a foolproof 100% hackproof/safe system.  that's just the way it is.  it doesn't help either that a lot of these sites are offshore w/ absolutely no monitoring.  like someone else pointed out.. Greed is everywhere regardless of how much $$$$ is coming in and it makes it a WHOLE lot easier to operate in the shade if there's not a huge pesky federal government making at least an attempt to make sure your on the up and up.  

    just my .02
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2007 - 9:10 PM ET #103

    This thread is beyond stupid.
     
    People that believe any top online site would ever risk the integrity of their system by cheating is ridiculous.
     
    I play on Full Tilt for a living.  I have played my fair share live.  You see more hands online, you see more bad beats because of it.  Plain and simple.
     
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    This thread is beyond stupid.
     
    People that believe any top online site would ever risk the integrity of their system by cheating is ridiculous.
     
    I play on Full Tilt for a living.  I have played my fair share live.  You see more hands online, you see more bad beats because of it.  Plain and simple.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2007 - 11:45 PM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by cheeseteam:

    People that believe any top online site would ever risk the integrity of their system by cheating is ridiculous.

     

    Ummmm.........AP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeseteam:

    People that believe any top online site would ever risk the integrity of their system by cheating is ridiculous.

     

    Ummmm.........AP?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2007 - 1:04 PM ET #105

    [Quote: Originally Posted by cheeseteam]
     
     
    People that believe any top online site would ever risk the integrity of their system by cheating is ridiculous.
     
    You see more hands online, you see more bad beats because of it.  Plain and simple.
     
    I don't paly there for a living but do play there a lot.
     
    I agree 100%
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by cheeseteam]
     
     
    People that believe any top online site would ever risk the integrity of their system by cheating is ridiculous.
     
    You see more hands online, you see more bad beats because of it.  Plain and simple.
     
    I don't paly there for a living but do play there a lot.
     
    I agree 100%
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2007 - 3:51 AM ET #106

    https://www.pokerplayernewspaper.com/viewarticle.php?id=2326&sort=author
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2007 - 6:57 PM ET #107

    Online Poker Sites are  Illusional Trickfucking waste of time!..... Im not gonna say b/c I have lost more then won on them but YEs its a Rackett..............And Yes they Do take care of the PRos! 
     
    Believe ME on that One..... ITs Riggged beyond believe!....the Best site i had luck with on poker was RACEBOOK, but it got shut down when the Gov was doin there thang bout online gaming...... But I found out if ya went into the Cheap rooms  it was more honest then goin into the High Roller rooms WHere It seems like u get Hell of alot more bad beats then good beats there!.... And Oh Yeah I think I said it b4.. THE PROS get Fringe Bennys from these sites!>>>.
     
     Im personally sick of seeing the same Dickbags Pros on the Tv talkin bout how great they are n how they flount there Money around.. Reality check assholes  Poker is 90% luck .. 10% Pysch!........ Good Luck to all
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    Online Poker Sites are  Illusional Trickfucking waste of time!..... Im not gonna say b/c I have lost more then won on them but YEs its a Rackett..............And Yes they Do take care of the PRos! 
     
    Believe ME on that One..... ITs Riggged beyond believe!....the Best site i had luck with on poker was RACEBOOK, but it got shut down when the Gov was doin there thang bout online gaming...... But I found out if ya went into the Cheap rooms  it was more honest then goin into the High Roller rooms WHere It seems like u get Hell of alot more bad beats then good beats there!.... And Oh Yeah I think I said it b4.. THE PROS get Fringe Bennys from these sites!>>>.
     
     Im personally sick of seeing the same Dickbags Pros on the Tv talkin bout how great they are n how they flount there Money around.. Reality check assholes  Poker is 90% luck .. 10% Pysch!........ Good Luck to all
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2007 - 10:47 PM ET #108

    Please, don't deposit into online casinos as they are all rigged.   Wait until an online casino is owned and  operated within the borders of the United States; then and only then, can you honestly say it won't be rigged- for obvious reasons that I've stated earlier above. 

    Do not deposit into online casino's as they are all rigged
     
    Like the US land based casinos are owned by straight guys.
     
    Arrogant twat. There are plenty of UK based poker sites that are straight - ran by English books. Books that have been in operation longer than your fucking country has existed.
     
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    Please, don't deposit into online casinos as they are all rigged.   Wait until an online casino is owned and  operated within the borders of the United States; then and only then, can you honestly say it won't be rigged- for obvious reasons that I've stated earlier above. 

    Do not deposit into online casino's as they are all rigged
     
    Like the US land based casinos are owned by straight guys.
     
    Arrogant twat. There are plenty of UK based poker sites that are straight - ran by English books. Books that have been in operation longer than your fucking country has existed.
     
    Cheeky box.
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2007 - 10:39 AM ET #109

    yea people that DON'T  think its rigged is what keeps these places in business, you just bought a full tilt commercial  ....thank you
     
    i WILL never play online again, i have played WAY....WAY more live hands at LIVE tables and NEVER got the kind of bad beats that i have gotten online, its bullshit, and the worst ones are the ones that have a little blackjack button at the poker table so you can play a robot and get your face fucked !!!
     
    COME ON  AMERICA TAKE OVER THIS SHIT ! ALOT OF AMERICAN MONEY OUT THERE, LET ME MAKE A DEPOSIT OR A WITHDRAWL WITH SOME CUSTOMER SERVICE REP. THAT SPEAKS ENGLISH AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THEM,
     
     
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    yea people that DON'T  think its rigged is what keeps these places in business, you just bought a full tilt commercial  ....thank you
     
    i WILL never play online again, i have played WAY....WAY more live hands at LIVE tables and NEVER got the kind of bad beats that i have gotten online, its bullshit, and the worst ones are the ones that have a little blackjack button at the poker table so you can play a robot and get your face fucked !!!
     
    COME ON  AMERICA TAKE OVER THIS SHIT ! ALOT OF AMERICAN MONEY OUT THERE, LET ME MAKE A DEPOSIT OR A WITHDRAWL WITH SOME CUSTOMER SERVICE REP. THAT SPEAKS ENGLISH AND I CAN UNDERSTAND THEM,
     
     
    WE ARE NOT FRENCH'''''''WE ARE AMERICAN''''''''''''''
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