Fadeville, Whether a bounus is given before your money is stolen, during the time it's being stolen or after playing a certain number of raked hands as it's being stolen doesn't change the outcome nor does it change the motive behind it.
Pocket Jacks, I don't explain it nor do I try. Are you one of these people that plays in televised events, a poker pro and only make your money playing online poker? If you are not, maybe you shouldn't speak huh? Don't deposit your hard earned cash that your little ones need and your family could use into online casinos; it's rigged. Don't be a donkey or a horses ass.
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Fadeville, Whether a bounus is given before your money is stolen, during the time it's being stolen or after playing a certain number of raked hands as it's being stolen doesn't change the outcome nor does it change the motive behind it.
Pocket Jacks, I don't explain it nor do I try. Are you one of these people that plays in televised events, a poker pro and only make your money playing online poker? If you are not, maybe you shouldn't speak huh? Don't deposit your hard earned cash that your little ones need and your family could use into online casinos; it's rigged. Don't be a donkey or a horses ass.
Why are you so concerned whether others deposit and play online poker? If you do not want to do it, then fine but you do not have to worry yourself about the rest of us. You make a lot of accusations stating that online poker is rigged, but do you have the proof? We can all make accusations because of bad beats, etc. but where is your proof? And yes before you ask I do make money at online poker but do not do it for a living and I have seen alot of crazy things happen online. But does that mean it is rigged? Not necessarily, I have seen alot of crazy play and bad beats live as well but again that does not mean it was rigged. Either way, if I want to play online poker then I will and I will assume the responsibility and you need not worry yourself about it.
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tonysantini,
Why are you so concerned whether others deposit and play online poker? If you do not want to do it, then fine but you do not have to worry yourself about the rest of us. You make a lot of accusations stating that online poker is rigged, but do you have the proof? We can all make accusations because of bad beats, etc. but where is your proof? And yes before you ask I do make money at online poker but do not do it for a living and I have seen alot of crazy things happen online. But does that mean it is rigged? Not necessarily, I have seen alot of crazy play and bad beats live as well but again that does not mean it was rigged. Either way, if I want to play online poker then I will and I will assume the responsibility and you need not worry yourself about it.
Listen up chief, I don't care if you say you make money, I don't care if you bet the farm, like I stated before, I said don't be a donkey or a horses ass and lose your hard earned money on online poker. If you still want to do that, then hey, more power to you my four legged friend.
The proof as they say is in the pudding. Maybe next week you can buy yourself into a WSOP satellite and end up with 7 million for a starting buy in of $40.00. IMAO.
Online poker is rigged is rigged and you know it; deal with it.
Why do you think not one,...not one online casino is owned and operated
within the borders of the United States of America? Do you think
that's coincidence? Seriously, please take a moment to think and
ponder about that. Do you really believe that no American Corporation
or Financial Group is capable of operating an Online Casino? Please
take a moment to consider this. It's rigged.
Common guys, it's rigged. If you are a U.S. player, please don't deposit to any casino until there is a U.S. owned and operated within the U.S. borders by U.S. Company,Corporation or other Financial Instituion. Seriously, you will be much better off.
Tony Santini
P.S. p211 - your funny and that is about it. I can see why you try to make this into a joke because you have to, but your argument holds no water. Keep trying, in the end all online casinos will close - even if it's only in the U.S.; at least until operated by us and within our borders (Unites States).
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smw1992
Listen up chief, I don't care if you say you make money, I don't care if you bet the farm, like I stated before, I said don't be a donkey or a horses ass and lose your hard earned money on online poker. If you still want to do that, then hey, more power to you my four legged friend.
The proof as they say is in the pudding. Maybe next week you can buy yourself into a WSOP satellite and end up with 7 million for a starting buy in of $40.00. IMAO.
Online poker is rigged is rigged and you know it; deal with it.
Why do you think not one,...not one online casino is owned and operated
within the borders of the United States of America? Do you think
that's coincidence? Seriously, please take a moment to think and
ponder about that. Do you really believe that no American Corporation
or Financial Group is capable of operating an Online Casino? Please
take a moment to consider this. It's rigged.
Common guys, it's rigged. If you are a U.S. player, please don't deposit to any casino until there is a U.S. owned and operated within the U.S. borders by U.S. Company,Corporation or other Financial Instituion. Seriously, you will be much better off.
Tony Santini
P.S. p211 - your funny and that is about it. I can see why you try to make this into a joke because you have to, but your argument holds no water. Keep trying, in the end all online casinos will close - even if it's only in the U.S.; at least until operated by us and within our borders (Unites States).
Yes Tony it's rigged because it's not based in the US. You know, the "always mighty and always truthful" US. It's not based in the US because the government is on some "holier than thou" shit about online gambling and haven't figured out a way to make money by taxing it yet. And, if I'm not mistaken, most of the online sites (the bigger ones) ARE REGULATED BY A COMPANY CALLED BMM INTERNATIONAL. Here is a link to the website, bmm.com.au. But that must be just some made up company, all created just to take your $.10, $.25 blinds. Again, the rake is usually capped at most sites and table as well.
Do you guys als sleep with tinfoil on your windows and doors to keep aliens out or are we safe enough now??
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Yes Tony it's rigged because it's not based in the US. You know, the "always mighty and always truthful" US. It's not based in the US because the government is on some "holier than thou" shit about online gambling and haven't figured out a way to make money by taxing it yet. And, if I'm not mistaken, most of the online sites (the bigger ones) ARE REGULATED BY A COMPANY CALLED BMM INTERNATIONAL. Here is a link to the website, bmm.com.au. But that must be just some made up company, all created just to take your $.10, $.25 blinds. Again, the rake is usually capped at most sites and table as well.
Do you guys als sleep with tinfoil on your windows and doors to keep aliens out or are we safe enough now??
First of all two-four, I don't play online poker anymore. Second, the company you left a link for has a very nice webpage; but it's a service you can purchase. Third just because you click a link doesn't mean it's a reputable organization. 4th, I don't think that because no online poker is owned by the U.S. that it's rigged, I think it's rigged because it's rigged. Either you work for some site, or you play at some site and haven't lost your 25 dollar deposit yet or your just a donkey and a horses ass, I'm sure it's one these two-four, which ever it is, I don't care. Don't deposit into online poker sites at this time, as they are all rigged. If you do it's absolutely your choice (obviously). I just hope that when you do lose your money you don't come on this thread and crying about it. I like how you throw in the conspiracy humor at the end there about tinfoil; but your argument and your jokes hold no water. Comedy in an argument is the same as resorting to a certain form of violence and when you have turned to violence (in any form) then you have already lost.
Tony
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First of all two-four, I don't play online poker anymore. Second, the company you left a link for has a very nice webpage; but it's a service you can purchase. Third just because you click a link doesn't mean it's a reputable organization. 4th, I don't think that because no online poker is owned by the U.S. that it's rigged, I think it's rigged because it's rigged. Either you work for some site, or you play at some site and haven't lost your 25 dollar deposit yet or your just a donkey and a horses ass, I'm sure it's one these two-four, which ever it is, I don't care. Don't deposit into online poker sites at this time, as they are all rigged. If you do it's absolutely your choice (obviously). I just hope that when you do lose your money you don't come on this thread and crying about it. I like how you throw in the conspiracy humor at the end there about tinfoil; but your argument and your jokes hold no water. Comedy in an argument is the same as resorting to a certain form of violence and when you have turned to violence (in any form) then you have already lost.
Furthermore, show me a poker site that isn't rigged and I will show you a poker site that is owned and operated by a U.S. company, organization or financial institution.
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Furthermore, show me a poker site that isn't rigged and I will show you a poker site that is owned and operated by a U.S. company, organization or financial institution.
The only people who say it's rigged are the losers. It's very simple math, you see more hands online you're going to see more bad beats. Not to mention there are a lot more bad players playing bad hands, which contributes to the bad beats. If you watch any poker on TV, you will see bad beats all the time. They may not be AS OFTEN because you are witnessing less hands, but they occur nonetheless. I still don't think anyone has come up with a valid reason as to WHY they would be rigged? How do they choose who is going to get screwed? Again, why would they risk a BILLION dollar operation for the chance that they get caught?
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The only people who say it's rigged are the losers. It's very simple math, you see more hands online you're going to see more bad beats. Not to mention there are a lot more bad players playing bad hands, which contributes to the bad beats. If you watch any poker on TV, you will see bad beats all the time. They may not be AS OFTEN because you are witnessing less hands, but they occur nonetheless. I still don't think anyone has come up with a valid reason as to WHY they would be rigged? How do they choose who is going to get screwed? Again, why would they risk a BILLION dollar operation for the chance that they get caught?
Oh, and in answer to your question tony, I am none of the above. I am a player online that seems to do pretty well. I don't work for any site, seem to understand the whole concept of online poker and love playing against donkeys such as yourself. And lastly, if YOU'RE going to try and bash someone, please spell YOU'RE correctly. You are becomes you're in the English language, not your.
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Oh, and in answer to your question tony, I am none of the above. I am a player online that seems to do pretty well. I don't work for any site, seem to understand the whole concept of online poker and love playing against donkeys such as yourself. And lastly, if YOU'RE going to try and bash someone, please spell YOU'RE correctly. You are becomes you're in the English language, not your.
Fulltilt is messed up. The following hand I witnessed in a sit-n-go I was playing. Two players are all in. They both have AQ unsuited and the third player, whom has them both covered has AK unsuited. The flop is 5, 10, 8 rainbow, turn 9, and the river a 2. The AK is the winner, correct? But according to Fulltilt it was a split pot.
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Fulltilt is messed up. The following hand I witnessed in a sit-n-go I was playing. Two players are all in. They both have AQ unsuited and the third player, whom has them both covered has AK unsuited. The flop is 5, 10, 8 rainbow, turn 9, and the river a 2. The AK is the winner, correct? But according to Fulltilt it was a split pot.
How do you explain people that are playing in these telivised tournaments that are online poker pros and only make their money by playing online poker?
They're the ones rigging the sites.
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Quote Originally Posted by PocketJacks:
How do you explain people that are playing in these telivised tournaments that are online poker pros and only make their money by playing online poker?
Furthermore, show me a poker site that isn't rigged and I will show you a poker site that is owned and operated by a U.S. company, organization or financial institution.
Why do you continue to say this? What makes you think that just because it would be owned by someone from the US that it would be legit? That is a great argument, it is rigged because it is not owned by the US. Give me a break, you can do better than that.
And one last time, where is your proof? All you seem to do is repeat yourself that it is rigged? I'm a winning player therefore I must work for the site? What makes the site allow me to be a winning player and someone not?
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Quote Originally Posted by tonysantini:
Furthermore, show me a poker site that isn't rigged and I will show you a poker site that is owned and operated by a U.S. company, organization or financial institution.
Why do you continue to say this? What makes you think that just because it would be owned by someone from the US that it would be legit? That is a great argument, it is rigged because it is not owned by the US. Give me a break, you can do better than that.
And one last time, where is your proof? All you seem to do is repeat yourself that it is rigged? I'm a winning player therefore I must work for the site? What makes the site allow me to be a winning player and someone not?
two-four The fact that corrected me on my grammar makes u right. Give me a break. And you say you play donkeys like me. But honestly, I can't recall ever playing you. Why do I keep saying that it's rigged? Hmmm, that is a very good question. Where is the proof? I will tell you. The proof is in the pudding. The proof is behind closed doors on the other side of the firewalls behind the people who actually program these online casino algorithms. It's quite simple, go to any computer programming expert that is worth his rate and he will explain it to you in terms that you can understand.
If you know the basics about any computer - you know that computers don't make mistakes and they do exactly what they are programmed to do. If a computer's calculation is ever incorrect, it's because the human input the wrong data or some other human error. Computers do not make errors. Now I ask you, how do you program a computer to shuffle cards like a dealer would at a casino? How do you flop an ace high flush and a donkey as you call them calls ur all in with King 9 offsuit only to turn a 9, river another nine and the king on the flop gives him a full house to beat you? And just 2 hands before at the same table your full house got rivered by quads ( four of a kind )? And so forth and so forth and so forth,.....?
You can't answer that can you? Except to say that bead beets haeppeeen. Right? Lots of laughs. Look Two by Four, if you want to deposit online in poker casinos please do my four legged friend, after all it's your money. And if you have kids, they're your kids. But don't come on here saying that it's not rigged. You say they make billions without rigging it, I say they make 10 times more by rigging it. Do the math you genius you. U.S. owned sites would be regulated by U.S. Government sanctioned companies and if cheated any player would be able to sue and go to court for damages with a minimal amount of money if they could prove it. Trust me, a U.S. owned casino would not cheat. Furthermore, chances are a U.S. casino would be owned by one or several of the many reputable land based casinos in Vegas, Atlantic City or the like.
You mention that there are more bad beats
online so you will see them more often, this argument is the oldest of
all. You say more bad players play more bad hands. First, it's
getting old, Second, more bad players at a table that seats 9 is the
same as the number of bad players at a land based casino at a table
that seats 9. You get my point on that one don't you? Or do I have to
explain it a little further? Poker TV? Lots of Laughs.
If you play poker based on what you see on TV then you have more
problems than bad beats my friend. Have you seen Friday the 13th?
Do the math boys and girls, it's rigged. Please do not ever deposit your hard earned cash into any online casino as it is rigged.
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two-four The fact that corrected me on my grammar makes u right. Give me a break. And you say you play donkeys like me. But honestly, I can't recall ever playing you. Why do I keep saying that it's rigged? Hmmm, that is a very good question. Where is the proof? I will tell you. The proof is in the pudding. The proof is behind closed doors on the other side of the firewalls behind the people who actually program these online casino algorithms. It's quite simple, go to any computer programming expert that is worth his rate and he will explain it to you in terms that you can understand.
If you know the basics about any computer - you know that computers don't make mistakes and they do exactly what they are programmed to do. If a computer's calculation is ever incorrect, it's because the human input the wrong data or some other human error. Computers do not make errors. Now I ask you, how do you program a computer to shuffle cards like a dealer would at a casino? How do you flop an ace high flush and a donkey as you call them calls ur all in with King 9 offsuit only to turn a 9, river another nine and the king on the flop gives him a full house to beat you? And just 2 hands before at the same table your full house got rivered by quads ( four of a kind )? And so forth and so forth and so forth,.....?
You can't answer that can you? Except to say that bead beets haeppeeen. Right? Lots of laughs. Look Two by Four, if you want to deposit online in poker casinos please do my four legged friend, after all it's your money. And if you have kids, they're your kids. But don't come on here saying that it's not rigged. You say they make billions without rigging it, I say they make 10 times more by rigging it. Do the math you genius you. U.S. owned sites would be regulated by U.S. Government sanctioned companies and if cheated any player would be able to sue and go to court for damages with a minimal amount of money if they could prove it. Trust me, a U.S. owned casino would not cheat. Furthermore, chances are a U.S. casino would be owned by one or several of the many reputable land based casinos in Vegas, Atlantic City or the like.
You mention that there are more bad beats
online so you will see them more often, this argument is the oldest of
all. You say more bad players play more bad hands. First, it's
getting old, Second, more bad players at a table that seats 9 is the
same as the number of bad players at a land based casino at a table
that seats 9. You get my point on that one don't you? Or do I have to
explain it a little further? Poker TV? Lots of Laughs.
If you play poker based on what you see on TV then you have more
problems than bad beats my friend. Have you seen Friday the 13th?
Do the math boys and girls, it's rigged. Please do not ever deposit your hard earned cash into any online casino as it is rigged.
It just does not feel right. You know when it is on the up and up.
Every hand can't be a bad beat.
I have actually played online quite a bit and I myself no longer trust online poker.There was one point where I was playing full-time for a 2 month period( 12 + hrs per day ) and made at least $8,000. But the truth is I just got burnt out on all of the unbelievable shit that was happening,both for me and against me.It was the kind of shit that was statistically impossible.I actually kept track of some different situations and it just didn't add up.
Now I'm not one to say it's completely rigged or who they're out to burn,but I definitely believe that there software is not completely random.Of course people say that you will obviously see more bad beats because you see a ton more hands and I definitely agree and expect that.Perhaps I just got burnt out after logging so many hours,it very well could be.
I still play online today,but only in free rolls or tournaments thatcost $10 or less.
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Quote Originally Posted by golfkat:
It just does not feel right. You know when it is on the up and up.
Every hand can't be a bad beat.
I have actually played online quite a bit and I myself no longer trust online poker.There was one point where I was playing full-time for a 2 month period( 12 + hrs per day ) and made at least $8,000. But the truth is I just got burnt out on all of the unbelievable shit that was happening,both for me and against me.It was the kind of shit that was statistically impossible.I actually kept track of some different situations and it just didn't add up.
Now I'm not one to say it's completely rigged or who they're out to burn,but I definitely believe that there software is not completely random.Of course people say that you will obviously see more bad beats because you see a ton more hands and I definitely agree and expect that.Perhaps I just got burnt out after logging so many hours,it very well could be.
I still play online today,but only in free rolls or tournaments thatcost $10 or less.
Pocket Jacks You are funny. 1. It's rigged. 2. It's rigged. 3. It's rigged.
Simple. Do you understand Jacks? Or do I have to repeat it.
1. If you play online and you win and are telling the truth, then YOU work for them. 2. I'm happily married and would never be stupid enough to even lose one paycheck to online poker. So I have not lost my wife honest, nor my house, nor my hamster nor my transformers or my dvd's or my toilet paper. 3. If I were a disgruntled employee, I can't see how that could possibly happen, but if I were I wouldn't believe that talking about it online in a thread would be equivalent to "getting back at them". And in order to slander someone you usually have to name them. 4. And why in the world would I try to stop people who know how to play from playing online or even people who don't know how to play? I mean seriously why would I do that? 5. I grew up with certain values and my favorite of them all is the fact that I believe in fair play - no matter what form it may be in - Sports, Art, Competition in any form or Poker. People who cheat are thieves, and low-life's, and when online casinos are doing it, it's Grand Larceny on a Grand scale my friend. And I believe it has to stop. That is why I persuade players of all races, ethnic backgrounds, whether they be Jewish, Black, Hispanic, Italian, English, Japanese or any other Race - the list of which is too long to mention - from playing online poker, because it has rigged. So please do not deposit into online casino's as they are rigged.
Tony Santini
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Pocket Jacks You are funny. 1. It's rigged. 2. It's rigged. 3. It's rigged.
Simple. Do you understand Jacks? Or do I have to repeat it.
1. If you play online and you win and are telling the truth, then YOU work for them. 2. I'm happily married and would never be stupid enough to even lose one paycheck to online poker. So I have not lost my wife honest, nor my house, nor my hamster nor my transformers or my dvd's or my toilet paper. 3. If I were a disgruntled employee, I can't see how that could possibly happen, but if I were I wouldn't believe that talking about it online in a thread would be equivalent to "getting back at them". And in order to slander someone you usually have to name them. 4. And why in the world would I try to stop people who know how to play from playing online or even people who don't know how to play? I mean seriously why would I do that? 5. I grew up with certain values and my favorite of them all is the fact that I believe in fair play - no matter what form it may be in - Sports, Art, Competition in any form or Poker. People who cheat are thieves, and low-life's, and when online casinos are doing it, it's Grand Larceny on a Grand scale my friend. And I believe it has to stop. That is why I persuade players of all races, ethnic backgrounds, whether they be Jewish, Black, Hispanic, Italian, English, Japanese or any other Race - the list of which is too long to mention - from playing online poker, because it has rigged. So please do not deposit into online casino's as they are rigged.
Pocket Jacks You are funny. 1. It's rigged. 2. It's rigged. 3. It's rigged.
Simple. Do you understand Jacks? Or do I have to repeat it.
1. If you play online and you win and are telling the truth, then YOU work for them. 2.
I'm happily married and would never be stupid enough to even lose one
paycheck to online poker. So I have not lost my wife honest, nor my
house, nor my hamster nor my transformers or my dvd's or my toilet
paper. 3. If I were a disgruntled employee, I can't see how that
could possibly happen, but if I were I wouldn't believe that talking
about it online in a thread would be equivalent to "getting back at
them". And in order to slander someone you usually have to name them. 4.
And why in the world would I try to stop people who know how to play
from playing online or even people who don't know how to play? I mean
seriously why would I do that? 5. I grew up with certain values and
my favorite of them all is the fact that I believe in fair play - no
matter what form it may be in - Sports, Art, Competition in any form or
Poker. People who cheat are thieves, and low-life's, and when online
casinos are doing it, it's Grand Larceny on a Grand scale my friend.
And I believe it has to stop. That is why I persuade players of all
races, ethnic backgrounds, whether they be Jewish, Black, Hispanic,
Italian, English, Japanese or any other Race - the list of which is too
long to mention - from playing online poker, because it is rigged. So
please do not deposit into online casino's as they are rigged.
Tony Santini
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Pocket Jacks You are funny. 1. It's rigged. 2. It's rigged. 3. It's rigged.
Simple. Do you understand Jacks? Or do I have to repeat it.
1. If you play online and you win and are telling the truth, then YOU work for them. 2.
I'm happily married and would never be stupid enough to even lose one
paycheck to online poker. So I have not lost my wife honest, nor my
house, nor my hamster nor my transformers or my dvd's or my toilet
paper. 3. If I were a disgruntled employee, I can't see how that
could possibly happen, but if I were I wouldn't believe that talking
about it online in a thread would be equivalent to "getting back at
them". And in order to slander someone you usually have to name them. 4.
And why in the world would I try to stop people who know how to play
from playing online or even people who don't know how to play? I mean
seriously why would I do that? 5. I grew up with certain values and
my favorite of them all is the fact that I believe in fair play - no
matter what form it may be in - Sports, Art, Competition in any form or
Poker. People who cheat are thieves, and low-life's, and when online
casinos are doing it, it's Grand Larceny on a Grand scale my friend.
And I believe it has to stop. That is why I persuade players of all
races, ethnic backgrounds, whether they be Jewish, Black, Hispanic,
Italian, English, Japanese or any other Race - the list of which is too
long to mention - from playing online poker, because it is rigged. So
please do not deposit into online casino's as they are rigged.
What is the point of this thread, do you guys come in here thinking those who think it isnt rigged are going to change their minds and vice versa? Or is it just for the sake of argument?
Im sure its been stated that because you see more hands the bad beats seem to be more frequent. But of course no one comes in here saying, man my ak beat aq 5 times until i finally lost on the 6th time. If that happened would that mean that its rigged for you?
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What is the point of this thread, do you guys come in here thinking those who think it isnt rigged are going to change their minds and vice versa? Or is it just for the sake of argument?
Im sure its been stated that because you see more hands the bad beats seem to be more frequent. But of course no one comes in here saying, man my ak beat aq 5 times until i finally lost on the 6th time. If that happened would that mean that its rigged for you?
Tony Santini you may be right, you may be wrong......but repeating something over and over doesn't make it true. I've yet to see one piece of real "evidence" from you to support your point other than you seem to really believe it's fixed......anyway, I don't really want to continue this thread but if anybody is going to post about this anymore it would be nice to see a little basis for their arguments.
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Tony Santini you may be right, you may be wrong......but repeating something over and over doesn't make it true. I've yet to see one piece of real "evidence" from you to support your point other than you seem to really believe it's fixed......anyway, I don't really want to continue this thread but if anybody is going to post about this anymore it would be nice to see a little basis for their arguments.
You sound like a moderator are you? If you wanna shut this thread down cuz online poker is rigged, then so be it. Look, everyone download your hand history from whatever site you play for during any 3 month period. Then check the statistics on that. The proof is in your own numbers. But do not deposit into online sites as they are rigged.
Tony Santini
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mmac66,
You sound like a moderator are you? If you wanna shut this thread down cuz online poker is rigged, then so be it. Look, everyone download your hand history from whatever site you play for during any 3 month period. Then check the statistics on that. The proof is in your own numbers. But do not deposit into online sites as they are rigged.
Now that is a funny one!!! I'm no moderator.......I was just curious. Personally, I love these threads that everybody argues their side and nobody ever wins......and the only numbers I care about are the dollar numbers and whether or not I'm in + money........
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Quote Originally Posted by tonysantini:
mmac66,
You sound like a moderator are you?
Now that is a funny one!!! I'm no moderator.......I was just curious. Personally, I love these threads that everybody argues their side and nobody ever wins......and the only numbers I care about are the dollar numbers and whether or not I'm in + money........
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