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    Full tilt poker should be sued

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    golfkat
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2007 - 1:10 PM ET #76

    [Quote: Originally Posted by CrusCrnshw]
    I think that it seems as if poker is rigged on sites because you see so many more hands online then you do in a casino, due to shuffling, chip movement etc. I sometimes say to myself, its rigged but in reality its probably not.
     
    I always see that as an excuse for the amount of bad beats
    in online poker.  Why can't you set it up where your own
    people or computers win all the hands.  If you had a site where
    there was a lot of play.  You could make a few hundred thousand
    a day.  Just with a few timely set ups.
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by CrusCrnshw]
    I think that it seems as if poker is rigged on sites because you see so many more hands online then you do in a casino, due to shuffling, chip movement etc. I sometimes say to myself, its rigged but in reality its probably not.
     
    I always see that as an excuse for the amount of bad beats
    in online poker.  Why can't you set it up where your own
    people or computers win all the hands.  If you had a site where
    there was a lot of play.  You could make a few hundred thousand
    a day.  Just with a few timely set ups.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2007 - 3:29 PM ET #77

    Truth is you are way more likely to get cheated in a live game than in an online game.
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    Truth is you are way more likely to get cheated in a live game than in an online game.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2007 - 10:52 PM ET #78


    That's a crock and you know it.  Online poker is rigged.  You are getting cheated online.  It's not about it being likely, likely doesn't even come into the equation.  Please guy, just stop.  I know common sense and logic hurts the pockets of Online Casino's but people, it's about evolution and not being the fool.  Please evolve out of this, grow up, mature your mind, cater to your soul - what ever you wanna call it - just don't be stupid and deposit to any, I repeat Any of the online casinos as they ,.....are.......all.......rigged.....and they steal your money.  I'm not just coming up with theories here, it's a fact that online casino's are rigged.  Look, you love poker and you love the thrill of winning money (big money) right?  Okay now, your dream is to make it playing poker and one day winning thw WSOP,WPT and any other major televised poker event,.....No where else in the world will you get any of that with more intensity than at a poker table in a real casino.  You aim to play at a real casino eventually and - truth be told - you will end up playing in a tournament with real people playing with real cards with real dealers and trust me,....the only way to truly develop your "poker" skills is by playing the game for real. 

    So some of you like the comfort of your own home and are so lazy that you would rather lose all your money for the sake of comfort.  Well that is your choice after all and if you want to do that, I'm not gonna stop you.  But if you are tired of getting ripped off and cheated then take the smart route and stop giving your money away to a computer or a group of people that have it all planned out already.  Please, don't deposit into online casinos as they are all rigged.   Wait until an online casino is owned and  operated within the borders of the United States; then and only then, can you honestly say it won't be rigged- for obvious reasons that I've stated earlier above. 

    Do not deposit into online casino's as they are all rigged.

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    That's a crock and you know it.  Online poker is rigged.  You are getting cheated online.  It's not about it being likely, likely doesn't even come into the equation.  Please guy, just stop.  I know common sense and logic hurts the pockets of Online Casino's but people, it's about evolution and not being the fool.  Please evolve out of this, grow up, mature your mind, cater to your soul - what ever you wanna call it - just don't be stupid and deposit to any, I repeat Any of the online casinos as they ,.....are.......all.......rigged.....and they steal your money.  I'm not just coming up with theories here, it's a fact that online casino's are rigged.  Look, you love poker and you love the thrill of winning money (big money) right?  Okay now, your dream is to make it playing poker and one day winning thw WSOP,WPT and any other major televised poker event,.....No where else in the world will you get any of that with more intensity than at a poker table in a real casino.  You aim to play at a real casino eventually and - truth be told - you will end up playing in a tournament with real people playing with real cards with real dealers and trust me,....the only way to truly develop your "poker" skills is by playing the game for real. 

    So some of you like the comfort of your own home and are so lazy that you would rather lose all your money for the sake of comfort.  Well that is your choice after all and if you want to do that, I'm not gonna stop you.  But if you are tired of getting ripped off and cheated then take the smart route and stop giving your money away to a computer or a group of people that have it all planned out already.  Please, don't deposit into online casinos as they are all rigged.   Wait until an online casino is owned and  operated within the borders of the United States; then and only then, can you honestly say it won't be rigged- for obvious reasons that I've stated earlier above. 

    Do not deposit into online casino's as they are all rigged.

    Tony Santini
     
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2007 - 2:41 PM ET #79

    , makes me wanna deposit right now
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    , makes me wanna deposit right now
     
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    Posted: Aug. 25, 2007 - 11:19 AM ET #80

    too funny
     
    Up a grand to 3 weeks on one "rigged" site
     
    lol
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    too funny
     
    Up a grand to 3 weeks on one "rigged" site
     
    lol
     
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    Posted: Aug. 26, 2007 - 12:01 AM ET #81

    Wow, that's about what the a child laborer makes in about the same amount of time,.......Let me know where you are at in 3 months.  And also let me know if you are only playing about 1 hour a day - wink, wink. 

    Now that's funny.

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    Wow, that's about what the a child laborer makes in about the same amount of time,.......Let me know where you are at in 3 months.  And also let me know if you are only playing about 1 hour a day - wink, wink. 

    Now that's funny.

    LOL
     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2007 - 9:09 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by JackSmack:

    Its a absolute joke.Sure I been around for a long time on poker sites, and sometimes you feel this is getting a bit out of hand................But this place is a pure fucking machiene. I am telling you they have it down to a science, whoever is the programmer for this software is a frigging genius. I lost KK 7 times in a row........I have flopped nuts and lost 50% of the time. It is quite incredible and no way it can be random. Just NO WAY.
     
    I am going around message boards and spreading the word on this place in hopes to get some feedback.
     
    I feel at the moment if I dont flop quads I am not winning. How you supposed to play poker like that?


    Well it is real simple. If you feel that Full Tilt is rigged, then don't pla there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSmack:

    Its a absolute joke.Sure I been around for a long time on poker sites, and sometimes you feel this is getting a bit out of hand................But this place is a pure fucking machiene. I am telling you they have it down to a science, whoever is the programmer for this software is a frigging genius. I lost KK 7 times in a row........I have flopped nuts and lost 50% of the time. It is quite incredible and no way it can be random. Just NO WAY.
     
    I am going around message boards and spreading the word on this place in hopes to get some feedback.
     
    I feel at the moment if I dont flop quads I am not winning. How you supposed to play poker like that?


    Well it is real simple. If you feel that Full Tilt is rigged, then don't pla there.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2007 - 12:23 PM ET #83

    Well, if you feel sites are not rigged,...why are you posting on here and reading the comments in this blog instead of making tons of cash at the poker tables?  If you don't think sites are rigged, just play there.

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    Well, if you feel sites are not rigged,...why are you posting on here and reading the comments in this blog instead of making tons of cash at the poker tables?  If you don't think sites are rigged, just play there.

    LOL
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2007 - 8:17 AM ET #84

    I agree that some games appear to be rigged, not all. It would be too obvious. But people are starting to catch on. Alot of comments about it being a computer and many many ways of getting screwed. You have really got to wonder how many of the "players" are really computer generated with certain scripts to play you out  of the hand. This can be done very easily.
    Its a f8cking scam, really.
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    I agree that some games appear to be rigged, not all. It would be too obvious. But people are starting to catch on. Alot of comments about it being a computer and many many ways of getting screwed. You have really got to wonder how many of the "players" are really computer generated with certain scripts to play you out  of the hand. This can be done very easily.
    Its a f8cking scam, really.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2007 - 8:13 AM ET #85

    Wow this thread got alot of action, I totally forgot about it. Havent played at full tilt poker since i made this post. The place is definitely without a doubt rigged. You go and look up who wins there at pokershark. Every one that wins is a nutcase wild betting player that is called a........ damn its been a while cant remember what they call them but something like "massive aggressive" I know thats not what they call it, but its someone that bets like a madman.........then you go and look at the leaderboards and what a shocker every one of them is at the top. Why? Thats easy, they get unbelievable flops and make hands about 10 to every 1 the common guy makes. It so true I am completely 100% sure that its all fixed and glad that I got away from it and into other ventures.
     
     
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    Wow this thread got alot of action, I totally forgot about it. Havent played at full tilt poker since i made this post. The place is definitely without a doubt rigged. You go and look up who wins there at pokershark. Every one that wins is a nutcase wild betting player that is called a........ damn its been a while cant remember what they call them but something like "massive aggressive" I know thats not what they call it, but its someone that bets like a madman.........then you go and look at the leaderboards and what a shocker every one of them is at the top. Why? Thats easy, they get unbelievable flops and make hands about 10 to every 1 the common guy makes. It so true I am completely 100% sure that its all fixed and glad that I got away from it and into other ventures.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2007 - 7:35 PM ET #86

    My only question is how would the site make more money by rigging the games?  In sit n gos 3 people are going to win money at the table right?  They are paying out the same whether they "rig" it or not.  I don't understand how they make more.  Tony you said the sites would make 10 times what they make now by rigging it.  Can you explain this to everyone?
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    My only question is how would the site make more money by rigging the games?  In sit n gos 3 people are going to win money at the table right?  They are paying out the same whether they "rig" it or not.  I don't understand how they make more.  Tony you said the sites would make 10 times what they make now by rigging it.  Can you explain this to everyone?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2007 - 7:38 PM ET #87

    Quote Originally Posted by JackSmack:

    Wow this thread got alot of action, I totally forgot about it. Havent played at full tilt poker since i made this post. The place is definitely without a doubt rigged. You go and look up who wins there at pokershark. Every one that wins is a nutcase wild betting player that is called a........ damn its been a while cant remember what they call them but something like "massive aggressive" I know thats not what they call it, but its someone that bets like a madman.........then you go and look at the leaderboards and what a shocker every one of them is at the top. Why? Thats easy, they get unbelievable flops and make hands about 10 to every 1 the common guy makes. It so true I am completely 100% sure that its all fixed and glad that I got away from it and into other ventures.
     
     

     

    Jack if this is the recipe for success, and you are absolutely certain they win by betting like a madman....why not play that way yourself?  According to you you can't lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSmack:

    Wow this thread got alot of action, I totally forgot about it. Havent played at full tilt poker since i made this post. The place is definitely without a doubt rigged. You go and look up who wins there at pokershark. Every one that wins is a nutcase wild betting player that is called a........ damn its been a while cant remember what they call them but something like "massive aggressive" I know thats not what they call it, but its someone that bets like a madman.........then you go and look at the leaderboards and what a shocker every one of them is at the top. Why? Thats easy, they get unbelievable flops and make hands about 10 to every 1 the common guy makes. It so true I am completely 100% sure that its all fixed and glad that I got away from it and into other ventures.
     
     

     

    Jack if this is the recipe for success, and you are absolutely certain they win by betting like a madman....why not play that way yourself?  According to you you can't lose.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2007 - 10:28 PM ET #88

    You guys are all idiots, online poker isnt rigged. You are all just a bunch of donks who dont know left from right. I am glad morons like you are still around so online poker remains profitable.
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    You guys are all idiots, online poker isnt rigged. You are all just a bunch of donks who dont know left from right. I am glad morons like you are still around so online poker remains profitable.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2007 - 12:00 PM ET #90

    just cant trust a computer program flipping cards over for a money profit i played a 3 way hand w/ 22 against kk ,55

    flop was k 5 2 turn was a 2 everyone all in
    i was small stack so it leads me to believe they want the same money staying at the table cycling as many times as it can just slowly raking the same money over and over !!! 

    how many times do you see the same people going back and forth at eachother

    make sense?
    Sometimes nothing can be a real Cool Hand
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    just cant trust a computer program flipping cards over for a money profit i played a 3 way hand w/ 22 against kk ,55

    flop was k 5 2 turn was a 2 everyone all in
    i was small stack so it leads me to believe they want the same money staying at the table cycling as many times as it can just slowly raking the same money over and over !!! 

    how many times do you see the same people going back and forth at eachother

    make sense?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2007 - 12:20 PM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by tonysantini:

    Wow, that's about what the a child laborer makes in about the same amount of time,.......Let me know where you are at in 3 months.  And also let me know if you are only playing about 1 hour a day - wink, wink. 

    Now that's funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonysantini:

    Wow, that's about what the a child laborer makes in about the same amount of time,.......Let me know where you are at in 3 months.  And also let me know if you are only playing about 1 hour a day - wink, wink. 

    Now that's funny.

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    must be king of $0.01/$0.02 game 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2007 - 12:45 PM ET #92

    full tilt poker is so rigged.  It is just one bad beat after another.
    they would have you believe it is on the square.  Of course they
    would.  on top of all that it is so slow.  I have never seen anything
    so slow.  It takes a few minutes to play one hand.  Every player
    has to wait.
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    full tilt poker is so rigged.  It is just one bad beat after another.
    they would have you believe it is on the square.  Of course they
    would.  on top of all that it is so slow.  I have never seen anything
    so slow.  It takes a few minutes to play one hand.  Every player
    has to wait.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2007 - 2:33 PM ET #93

    I stopped playing at full tilt after the worst beat i've ever had. I had Pocket 4's and the other guy had AQ. Flop came 4KK and he pushes all in. I call and runner runner K's pop up. Ended up only placing 20 in the tourney I was in and vowed to never play at Full Tilt again.
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    I stopped playing at full tilt after the worst beat i've ever had. I had Pocket 4's and the other guy had AQ. Flop came 4KK and he pushes all in. I call and runner runner K's pop up. Ended up only placing 20 in the tourney I was in and vowed to never play at Full Tilt again.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2007 - 3:47 PM ET #94

    [Quote: Originally Posted by Cprod]
    I stopped playing at full tilt after the worst beat i've ever had. I had Pocket 4's and the other guy had AQ. Flop came 4KK and he pushes all in. I call and runner runner K's pop up. Ended up only placing 20 in the tourney I was in and vowed to never play at Full Tilt again.

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Cprod]
    I stopped playing at full tilt after the worst beat i've ever had. I had Pocket 4's and the other guy had AQ. Flop came 4KK and he pushes all in. I call and runner runner K's pop up. Ended up only placing 20 in the tourney I was in and vowed to never play at Full Tilt again.

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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2007 - 3:15 AM ET #95

    I also think that online poker is rigged. BUT I believe that it is all pre determined based on your seat. As in...there is some sort of program that has a huge set of hands pre-set for each seat. Then based on how you play the hand determines your outcome. I mean i literally feel the need to fold pocket Js preflop when someone after me makes a medium-decent sized raise even when I am the chip leader lmao....its ridiculous and trust me there have been multiple times in tournies when i have done that and sure enough...it was more than a wise decision.
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    I also think that online poker is rigged. BUT I believe that it is all pre determined based on your seat. As in...there is some sort of program that has a huge set of hands pre-set for each seat. Then based on how you play the hand determines your outcome. I mean i literally feel the need to fold pocket Js preflop when someone after me makes a medium-decent sized raise even when I am the chip leader lmao....its ridiculous and trust me there have been multiple times in tournies when i have done that and sure enough...it was more than a wise decision.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2007 - 9:41 PM ET #96

    Again you people make no sense.  Someone is at the other end of all your bad beats that you incessantly bitch about.
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    Again you people make no sense.  Someone is at the other end of all your bad beats that you incessantly bitch about.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2007 - 12:17 PM ET #97

    I play at Full Tilt all the time and is where I started playing.  You must learn the game and learn a style that suits you.  Are you a cash game player or a tourney player?  I have tried to play the cash games and it just doesn't suit me.  I play in the sit & go's and the tourneys and find myself doing much better.  What is your style? Are you over agressive or a conservative patient player?  I have found that the bad beats come more often in the lower stake games because more players are willing to take the risk because they put such a small amount.  I find much more consitent play in the higher stake games.
     
    Bad beats is poker.  That is part of the game.  You have to shrug it off and move on.  The bad beat you took, was it really a bad beat or did you make a bad play?  Those poket kings don't look as strong once an ace hits on the flop do they?  I can't recall any bad beats that have got me to the point of quiting but I remember a few.  No big deal, that's poker.
     
    I will share my favorite Full Tilt momment and only because I was on the winning side.  I had QQ and went all in, another guy had KK and went all in, and another guy had AA and went all in.  Flop came with two Q's and I won the had.  I do not remember if I won that sit & go but I will never forget that hand.
     
    I have a hardtime believing that a poker site that is tied to so many of the top pros would be rigged.
     
    I agree with the others that say due to the volume of hands that you see online you are gonna see some wierd stuff, but that is the statitisics of the game.  I have had my pokect A's cracked plenty of times.
     
    I forget who said it but poker is a game of hours of boredom with seconds of shear panic.
     
    Some people also say that this is a game of aggression.  I disagree.  This is a game of patients with thought out agression.
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    I play at Full Tilt all the time and is where I started playing.  You must learn the game and learn a style that suits you.  Are you a cash game player or a tourney player?  I have tried to play the cash games and it just doesn't suit me.  I play in the sit & go's and the tourneys and find myself doing much better.  What is your style? Are you over agressive or a conservative patient player?  I have found that the bad beats come more often in the lower stake games because more players are willing to take the risk because they put such a small amount.  I find much more consitent play in the higher stake games.
     
    Bad beats is poker.  That is part of the game.  You have to shrug it off and move on.  The bad beat you took, was it really a bad beat or did you make a bad play?  Those poket kings don't look as strong once an ace hits on the flop do they?  I can't recall any bad beats that have got me to the point of quiting but I remember a few.  No big deal, that's poker.
     
    I will share my favorite Full Tilt momment and only because I was on the winning side.  I had QQ and went all in, another guy had KK and went all in, and another guy had AA and went all in.  Flop came with two Q's and I won the had.  I do not remember if I won that sit & go but I will never forget that hand.
     
    I have a hardtime believing that a poker site that is tied to so many of the top pros would be rigged.
     
    I agree with the others that say due to the volume of hands that you see online you are gonna see some wierd stuff, but that is the statitisics of the game.  I have had my pokect A's cracked plenty of times.
     
    I forget who said it but poker is a game of hours of boredom with seconds of shear panic.
     
    Some people also say that this is a game of aggression.  I disagree.  This is a game of patients with thought out agression.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2007 - 12:19 PM ET #98

    The best thread at covers continues to deliver.
     
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    The best thread at covers continues to deliver.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2007 - 5:31 PM ET #99

    I stopped playing at full tilt after the worst beat i've ever had. I had Pocket 4's and the other guy had AQ. Flop came 4KK and he pushes all in. I call and runner runner K's pop up. Ended up only placing 20 in the tourney I was in and vowed to never play at Full Tilt again.
     
    That is brutal. 
     
    I played 2 SNG's last night.  Got down to 4 spots first game and I lost with A-K to A-Q...Q on the flop.  Got home and played again.  Down to 3 spots (at least I cashed).  Lost with A-K again to A-J when a J came on the turn.
     
    I don't think it's rigged personally, but I certainly wasn't very happy last night. 
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    I stopped playing at full tilt after the worst beat i've ever had. I had Pocket 4's and the other guy had AQ. Flop came 4KK and he pushes all in. I call and runner runner K's pop up. Ended up only placing 20 in the tourney I was in and vowed to never play at Full Tilt again.
     
    That is brutal. 
     
    I played 2 SNG's last night.  Got down to 4 spots first game and I lost with A-K to A-Q...Q on the flop.  Got home and played again.  Down to 3 spots (at least I cashed).  Lost with A-K again to A-J when a J came on the turn.
     
    I don't think it's rigged personally, but I certainly wasn't very happy last night. 
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2007 - 10:03 AM ET #100

    A-K is not a strong hand.  What are you doing going all in pre flop?  I can't say how many times I have seen A-K go down.  Best advice I could give is if you don't have it after the flop don't chase, wait to play when you are stronger.  Chances are if you didn't hit the person you are playing did.
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    A-K is not a strong hand.  What are you doing going all in pre flop?  I can't say how many times I have seen A-K go down.  Best advice I could give is if you don't have it after the flop don't chase, wait to play when you are stronger.  Chances are if you didn't hit the person you are playing did.
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