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    facing big bet on river

    BURG2VEGAS
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    BURG2VEGAS
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2011 - 12:42 AM ET #1

    here is a hand from rivers casino in pittsburgh

    1-3 game 2a.m been seated a half hour after omaha h/l broke

    sat down w/140 doubled up once have about 275

    playing tight raise to 11 w/qq 3 players behind me call

    flop Ks9s4c

    bet 18 on flop 2 callers

    im worried someone has king but feel i can get them off by reping ak, also flush is scary

    turn 6h

    ok i know now that card didnt help callers i fire out 30 into pot w/about 95 bucks in it

    one caller ,a foriegn indian dude, i now put him on nothing floating flop and turn for a spaid and then bluff flush

    river4h

    the indian puts in bet of 175

    i already have put him on doing this, and ask if he could have 94 or k4, 46 , i rule out that he has those hands i also rule out a4, i mean cmon

    i call him

    the fkin idiot shows 24 OFF i say u got to be kidding stand up and walk away

    i mean i coulda folded but i thought he was makin bluff which i was right till river ,what do you guys think i usually post these on 2+2 but i want to hear what covers poker thinks

    i personally think i coulda got away from hand, but i know the idiot got really lucky, and i was tilting a little from getting sucked out on earlier this nite before playing omaha, so being i was stuck for the day hard for me to lay down big bet on river when flush dosent show up and board pairs the low card

    i also think i shoulda made bigger bet on turn, but i was value betting like i wanted action

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    here is a hand from rivers casino in pittsburgh

    1-3 game 2a.m been seated a half hour after omaha h/l broke

    sat down w/140 doubled up once have about 275

    playing tight raise to 11 w/qq 3 players behind me call

    flop Ks9s4c

    bet 18 on flop 2 callers

    im worried someone has king but feel i can get them off by reping ak, also flush is scary

    turn 6h

    ok i know now that card didnt help callers i fire out 30 into pot w/about 95 bucks in it

    one caller ,a foriegn indian dude, i now put him on nothing floating flop and turn for a spaid and then bluff flush

    river4h

    the indian puts in bet of 175

    i already have put him on doing this, and ask if he could have 94 or k4, 46 , i rule out that he has those hands i also rule out a4, i mean cmon

    i call him

    the fkin idiot shows 24 OFF i say u got to be kidding stand up and walk away

    i mean i coulda folded but i thought he was makin bluff which i was right till river ,what do you guys think i usually post these on 2+2 but i want to hear what covers poker thinks

    i personally think i coulda got away from hand, but i know the idiot got really lucky, and i was tilting a little from getting sucked out on earlier this nite before playing omaha, so being i was stuck for the day hard for me to lay down big bet on river when flush dosent show up and board pairs the low card

    i also think i shoulda made bigger bet on turn, but i was value betting like i wanted action

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2011 - 1:00 PM ET #2

    IMO, you put yourself in that position.

    I understand the thought of wanting to represent AK.

    Betting 30 into 95 is not value betting and you have 2 potential callers behind you.

    Would fold to the 175 bet on the river bc you cant beat anything except the missed spade draw and its possible he had spades with the 4s.
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    IMO, you put yourself in that position.

    I understand the thought of wanting to represent AK.

    Betting 30 into 95 is not value betting and you have 2 potential callers behind you.

    Would fold to the 175 bet on the river bc you cant beat anything except the missed spade draw and its possible he had spades with the 4s.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2011 - 2:45 PM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by runlagos:

    IMO, you put yourself in that position.

    I understand the thought of wanting to represent AK.

    Betting 30 into 95 is not value betting and you have 2 potential callers behind you.

    Would fold to the 175 bet on the river bc you cant beat anything except the missed spade draw and its possible he had spades with the 4s.

    1/3 of pot isnt value betting? i made the call based on my read throughout hand, that he was floating with nothing, and i was sort of right,dont forget i have rep of being very solid, i know he was going to try me on river no matter what, you really think he thought his 4 was good or was drawing for a 2 or 4?no he called w/intentions of bluffing river,and got lucky, but i do agree a bigger turn bet from me probably would of gotten him to fold, i more less showed weaknessw/30$ turn bet w/flush draw out there,who knows he might of put me on aq spaids, idk, you play you learn

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by runlagos:

    IMO, you put yourself in that position.

    I understand the thought of wanting to represent AK.

    Betting 30 into 95 is not value betting and you have 2 potential callers behind you.

    Would fold to the 175 bet on the river bc you cant beat anything except the missed spade draw and its possible he had spades with the 4s.

    1/3 of pot isnt value betting? i made the call based on my read throughout hand, that he was floating with nothing, and i was sort of right,dont forget i have rep of being very solid, i know he was going to try me on river no matter what, you really think he thought his 4 was good or was drawing for a 2 or 4?no he called w/intentions of bluffing river,and got lucky, but i do agree a bigger turn bet from me probably would of gotten him to fold, i more less showed weaknessw/30$ turn bet w/flush draw out there,who knows he might of put me on aq spaids, idk, you play you learn

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2011 - 9:25 PM ET #4

    Its one thing to do what youre trying to accomplish in a heads up situation but another with 3 callers behind and then again with 2 callers after the flop. Seems forceful and avoidable. 
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    Its one thing to do what youre trying to accomplish in a heads up situation but another with 3 callers behind and then again with 2 callers after the flop. Seems forceful and avoidable. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2011 - 12:09 AM ET #5

    1) What hands call our bet on the flop? What hands fold?

    2) What hands call our bet on the turn? What hands fold?

    3) What does our opponent over bet the pot with on the river?

    4) How often do we have to be right to profitably call on the river? Is our opponent bluffing that often?
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    1) What hands call our bet on the flop? What hands fold?

    2) What hands call our bet on the turn? What hands fold?

    3) What does our opponent over bet the pot with on the river?

    4) How often do we have to be right to profitably call on the river? Is our opponent bluffing that often?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2011 - 4:02 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by runlagos:

    Its one thing to do what youre trying to accomplish in a heads up situation but another with 3 callers behind and then again with 2 callers after the flop. Seems forceful and avoidable. 

    only one caller after the turn, the donk w/2 4

    anyway my conclusion is a bigger turn bet was in order, i believe he sensed weakness,and like i said was floating anyway ,lots of sick hands in that room{rivers casino} the 1-3 game is usually very high risk very high reward, i mean in 6 sessions one week this month i made a 100.00 an hour!,but the 3 days lat week suffered 3 max bi in losses 3 days in a row, still up so not complaining,but at my age ,i rather grind slow money then high risk high reward

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    Quote Originally Posted by runlagos:

    Its one thing to do what youre trying to accomplish in a heads up situation but another with 3 callers behind and then again with 2 callers after the flop. Seems forceful and avoidable. 

    only one caller after the turn, the donk w/2 4

    anyway my conclusion is a bigger turn bet was in order, i believe he sensed weakness,and like i said was floating anyway ,lots of sick hands in that room{rivers casino} the 1-3 game is usually very high risk very high reward, i mean in 6 sessions one week this month i made a 100.00 an hour!,but the 3 days lat week suffered 3 max bi in losses 3 days in a row, still up so not complaining,but at my age ,i rather grind slow money then high risk high reward

     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2011 - 3:00 AM ET #7

    9i could fold river there,.tuff but u cant call.
    bigFnPOO
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    9i could fold river there,.tuff but u cant call.
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 5, 2011 - 3:01 AM ET #8

    well maybe w a ass like u got
    bigFnPOO
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    well maybe w a ass like u got
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