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    Vanzack proved this year that betting is a cursed money

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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 12:56 PM ET #51

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    @vanzack   Vanzack, you can cite numerous examples of criminals who live happy and healthy lives in their mansions, thanks to drug trafficking or theft. I really don't understand this, because this is what we see from the outside, we don't know the real reality.   I believe you are one of those guys who has possibly succeeded in this industry, 1 in a million, and yet you have returned a good part of it this year.   Anyway, if my 30 years of experience in gambling were not enough to convince you, listen to what the Mormons have to say. They have been studying the "evil of gambling" in society for 200 years and have the same vision as me. They have everything documented about what happens to people who try to make easy money without working/generating value for other human beings.

    "Listen to what the Mormons say"

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    Grillo - you might choose to wear magic underwear and soak with your GF while hiring a "shaker" for $100 an hour, but that hocus pocus shit aint my bag pal.  But it sure explains a lot about you.

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    @vanzack   Vanzack, you can cite numerous examples of criminals who live happy and healthy lives in their mansions, thanks to drug trafficking or theft. I really don't understand this, because this is what we see from the outside, we don't know the real reality.   I believe you are one of those guys who has possibly succeeded in this industry, 1 in a million, and yet you have returned a good part of it this year.   Anyway, if my 30 years of experience in gambling were not enough to convince you, listen to what the Mormons have to say. They have been studying the "evil of gambling" in society for 200 years and have the same vision as me. They have everything documented about what happens to people who try to make easy money without working/generating value for other human beings.

    "Listen to what the Mormons say"

    an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh

    Grillo - you might choose to wear magic underwear and soak with your GF while hiring a "shaker" for $100 an hour, but that hocus pocus shit aint my bag pal.  But it sure explains a lot about you.

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 12:58 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by GriLo:

    @KeyMaster   You are completely wrong. The greatest investor of all time, Warren Buffet, has already answered this question.   Stock investing pours trillions of dollars into companies in the American economy that will prosper, generate jobs and value for other human beings. Countries that do not have a sophisticated stock market like Africa cannot get investment to build anything or improve people's lives.   Now, if you say that “trading” in the stock market is like gambling, you are correct. That is why the number of winners in long-term trading is as small as the number of bets.

    You are factually clueless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GriLo:

    @KeyMaster   You are completely wrong. The greatest investor of all time, Warren Buffet, has already answered this question.   Stock investing pours trillions of dollars into companies in the American economy that will prosper, generate jobs and value for other human beings. Countries that do not have a sophisticated stock market like Africa cannot get investment to build anything or improve people's lives.   Now, if you say that “trading” in the stock market is like gambling, you are correct. That is why the number of winners in long-term trading is as small as the number of bets.

    You are factually clueless.

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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 1:01 PM ET #53

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    You are right. Alcohol is as bad as gambling in society. The person who sells drinks is not affected by poverty because he is actually working, and within the law, unlike drugs.

    Just like bookmakers are also billionaires. They are also working, providing some service, whether it is bad or not.

    I just believe that those who try to make money without working or generating value through their capital, do not prosper.

    Everyone is addicted to gambling. But I try to be a controlled addict.
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    You are right. Alcohol is as bad as gambling in society. The person who sells drinks is not affected by poverty because he is actually working, and within the law, unlike drugs.

    Just like bookmakers are also billionaires. They are also working, providing some service, whether it is bad or not.

    I just believe that those who try to make money without working or generating value through their capital, do not prosper.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 1:07 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by GriLo:

    Vanzack is giving back everything he won in betting this year. He seems to be -40 units the last time I updated. I confess that I have always admired him for having so many years in the positive, but after more than 30 years in this industry, I know that all bettors will give back their winnings sooner or later. In fact, I will go further, the money won in betting, theft, is the same thing, it is cursed money that did not come from the fruit of your work and is charged double from you later. Do not spend 1 dollar that is not the fruit of your work, if you win for some time in betting, donate it to charities. But for the love of God, do not use this money for your personal expenses, it will take a high price with no future.
    Asshat!!! What planet are you on? Do you actually think Mansack handicaps these games using his emotions, and personal feelings? Its nothing more than a Math Equation to him ...If his numbers match his formula, he fires. The more the number is off from his, dictates the size of the bet!!...Just like the market, it swings...BUT the system doesn't change...Jezzzzz...He doesn't give 2 Fuks about a winning season, hes a proven winner..now go get your shine box!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GriLo:

    Vanzack is giving back everything he won in betting this year. He seems to be -40 units the last time I updated. I confess that I have always admired him for having so many years in the positive, but after more than 30 years in this industry, I know that all bettors will give back their winnings sooner or later. In fact, I will go further, the money won in betting, theft, is the same thing, it is cursed money that did not come from the fruit of your work and is charged double from you later. Do not spend 1 dollar that is not the fruit of your work, if you win for some time in betting, donate it to charities. But for the love of God, do not use this money for your personal expenses, it will take a high price with no future.
    Asshat!!! What planet are you on? Do you actually think Mansack handicaps these games using his emotions, and personal feelings? Its nothing more than a Math Equation to him ...If his numbers match his formula, he fires. The more the number is off from his, dictates the size of the bet!!...Just like the market, it swings...BUT the system doesn't change...Jezzzzz...He doesn't give 2 Fuks about a winning season, hes a proven winner..now go get your shine box!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 1:07 PM ET #55

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     How about u take care of yourself and the people on this site worry about themselves and everyone just mind their own business! This is not the Dr Phil Showits a site where we share thoughts on games and use it for our own way we decide to use it! ENOUGH WITH UR IDEA OF HOW IT SHOULD BE! That’s what is wrong with this world people like GriLo need acceptance and can’t take accountability on themselves so in other words, SHUT THE F*** UP! 

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     How about u take care of yourself and the people on this site worry about themselves and everyone just mind their own business! This is not the Dr Phil Showits a site where we share thoughts on games and use it for our own way we decide to use it! ENOUGH WITH UR IDEA OF HOW IT SHOULD BE! That’s what is wrong with this world people like GriLo need acceptance and can’t take accountability on themselves so in other words, SHUT THE F*** UP! 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 1:11 PM ET #56

    This post is hilarious.  I'm recently retired from teaching.  I can either substitute teach to make $150 a day until my wife retires or I can gamble.  I get up at six every morning and write down the opening lines.  I then listen to podcasts for about an hour.  I then go to online posts and read what people are saying.  I then go to the gym and listen to more podcasts.  Finally, I watch the line movement throughout the day and read match-ups.  I spend anywhere from 3 to 6 hours a day on gambling.  It is work!!!

    Save your delusional Christian values for yourself. Gambling is not evil or bad.    

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    This post is hilarious.  I'm recently retired from teaching.  I can either substitute teach to make $150 a day until my wife retires or I can gamble.  I get up at six every morning and write down the opening lines.  I then listen to podcasts for about an hour.  I then go to online posts and read what people are saying.  I then go to the gym and listen to more podcasts.  Finally, I watch the line movement throughout the day and read match-ups.  I spend anywhere from 3 to 6 hours a day on gambling.  It is work!!!

    Save your delusional Christian values for yourself. Gambling is not evil or bad.    

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 1:14 PM ET #57

    2 threads I never open.

    Vanzack & TRAIN69

    Take this advice it works 

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    2 threads I never open.

    Vanzack & TRAIN69

    Take this advice it works 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 1:15 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by GriLo:

    @NONEED4LUCK   You are right. Alcohol is as bad as gambling in society. The person who sells drinks is not affected by poverty because he is actually working, and within the law, unlike drugs. Just like bookmakers are also billionaires. They are also working, providing some service, whether it is bad or not. I just believe that those who try to make money without working or generating value through their capital, do not prosper.

    Your like an Oracle or something right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GriLo:

    @NONEED4LUCK   You are right. Alcohol is as bad as gambling in society. The person who sells drinks is not affected by poverty because he is actually working, and within the law, unlike drugs. Just like bookmakers are also billionaires. They are also working, providing some service, whether it is bad or not. I just believe that those who try to make money without working or generating value through their capital, do not prosper.

    Your like an Oracle or something right?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 1:18 PM ET #59

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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 1:20 PM ET #60

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    You really took time to make a post like this? LOL. So at the end of the day you obsess over Vanzack, like you must think about him often? Correct cupcake an_wink

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    You really took time to make a post like this? LOL. So at the end of the day you obsess over Vanzack, like you must think about him often? Correct cupcake an_wink

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 1:29 PM ET #61

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     Are you the same Grilo that plays basketball for Missouri? 

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     Are you the same Grilo that plays basketball for Missouri? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 1:52 PM ET #62

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    Well is making money from stocks and real estate speculation theft as well 

     

    Bet 5 Play Over Parlays and get rich
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    @GriLo

     

    Well is making money from stocks and real estate speculation theft as well 

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 1:54 PM ET #63

     

    You remind me of Barry Dingles admin

    going to find that thread 

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    You remind me of Barry Dingles admin

    going to find that thread 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 2:06 PM ET #64

     

    https://www.covers.com/forum/general-discussion/gambling-is-nothing-but-a-fancy-word-for-100526820 

    classic throwback from 2009 cool

    Vanzack and Bator were called out in that one as well an_roll_laugh  post  #13

      

     

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    https://www.covers.com/forum/general-discussion/gambling-is-nothing-but-a-fancy-word-for-100526820 

    classic throwback from 2009 cool

    Vanzack and Bator were called out in that one as well an_roll_laugh  post  #13

      

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 2:18 PM ET #65

      I'd rather read an old Yellow Pages book front to back, than read anymore of this thread. Gibberish at its finest. KC/HOU under 41.5. BOL!

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      I'd rather read an old Yellow Pages book front to back, than read anymore of this thread. Gibberish at its finest. KC/HOU under 41.5. BOL!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 2:26 PM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobob89074:

    @Macwestie1  Is your post merely an opinion or is it an 'ex cathedra' proclamation?

     

    You're questioning a Legend with 155 thousand posts a guy who been on here for 20 years and never placed a real bet in his life .

    His yearly migration to the college basketball forum for attention he knows nothing all he does is look at matchup page and go against concensus,  tell me what games he played ill tell what side he posted I don't even have to look ill be right every time. Over 20 years of this guy in these forums I know him like a book.

    The people that want to defend this guy saying hes a good guy baloney its the internet you don't know this guy from Adam .

    To post plays he knows nothing about and he's not putting any money on these games and he keeps his post 24 /7 in front of everyone's face with hand shaking and A S S  kissing . This is good guy ?.

    Its amazing to me that he's been on this site for for over 20 years and never learned anything he knows as much about sports and sports gambling as your average women if you had a chance to talk to him about sports in person you'd realize this 5 minutes .

     

     

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    @Macwestie1  Is your post merely an opinion or is it an 'ex cathedra' proclamation?

     

    You're questioning a Legend with 155 thousand posts a guy who been on here for 20 years and never placed a real bet in his life .

    His yearly migration to the college basketball forum for attention he knows nothing all he does is look at matchup page and go against concensus,  tell me what games he played ill tell what side he posted I don't even have to look ill be right every time. Over 20 years of this guy in these forums I know him like a book.

    The people that want to defend this guy saying hes a good guy baloney its the internet you don't know this guy from Adam .

    To post plays he knows nothing about and he's not putting any money on these games and he keeps his post 24 /7 in front of everyone's face with hand shaking and A S S  kissing . This is good guy ?.

    Its amazing to me that he's been on this site for for over 20 years and never learned anything he knows as much about sports and sports gambling as your average women if you had a chance to talk to him about sports in person you'd realize this 5 minutes .

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 6:25 PM ET #67

    To the poster gamble or don't gamble but why criticize Vanzack anything he posts I'm sure he has money on and it and thinks will cash. 

    The guy with the little White dog avatar has no money on anything this is just a social club for him this is what should piss people off.

    I told you all he does is looks at the betting concensus he saw 76 % of public is on Auburn so he post Georgia +6.5 , I don't know what the line went off at a lot of times he adds a half to a full point to a lot of his fake bets.

    After I called him out on adding half points to everything he started going to a website that gives lines from different on line sports books and searches for the best line and gives where it came from  I'm sure he has no accounts at any of these places. 

    Everyone should be on a scouts honor if you have no money on something don't post.

     

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    To the poster gamble or don't gamble but why criticize Vanzack anything he posts I'm sure he has money on and it and thinks will cash. 

    The guy with the little White dog avatar has no money on anything this is just a social club for him this is what should piss people off.

    I told you all he does is looks at the betting concensus he saw 76 % of public is on Auburn so he post Georgia +6.5 , I don't know what the line went off at a lot of times he adds a half to a full point to a lot of his fake bets.

    After I called him out on adding half points to everything he started going to a website that gives lines from different on line sports books and searches for the best line and gives where it came from  I'm sure he has no accounts at any of these places. 

    Everyone should be on a scouts honor if you have no money on something don't post.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2025 - 7:00 PM ET #68

    Of course good old Mac has + 8.5 Houston cause KCs the public play 

    And the concensus says 60 % of spread bets are on Washington so he posted Detroit.

    That's all he doing and he's betting no money every sport every night .

    He not only has 155 thousand posts but he also reads every word of every post on Covers  so he might switch up for a while to get back at me but he'll always go back to form.

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    Of course good old Mac has + 8.5 Houston cause KCs the public play 

    And the concensus says 60 % of spread bets are on Washington so he posted Detroit.

    That's all he doing and he's betting no money every sport every night .

    He not only has 155 thousand posts but he also reads every word of every post on Covers  so he might switch up for a while to get back at me but he'll always go back to form.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2025 - 5:45 PM ET #69

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    Posted: Sep. 4, 2025 - 5:46 PM ET #70

    Vanzack is gone in 2025

    Everyone is addicted to gambling. But I try to be a controlled addict.
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    Some fucking socket monkeys in this thread ridiculing vanzack. The dude has been top notch on this site for many years teaching and educating many on how to invest. The dude talks strategy, gives insight and educates more than 98% on this site. So he had a bad year, but that doesn't take away from the positive he brings to the site and to many he teaches with his knowledge. 

     

    To call him out for having a bad year is a bit juvenile if you ask me. He's not forcing anyone to follow his plays and the dude makes sound logical investments based on his own method. Yes, he puts himself out there to be ridiculed and fucked with like anyone else, but if you are going to start attacking someone of this caliber then you fucks will attack anyone.

     

    Vanzack even predicted that bitcoin would be big before bitcoin even knew what it was...

     

    None of you fucks will ever be invited to the yacht, but you might get some nunchucks upside yo head...

     

    Go fuck yourselves. peace_5

     

     

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    Some fucking socket monkeys in this thread ridiculing vanzack. The dude has been top notch on this site for many years teaching and educating many on how to invest. The dude talks strategy, gives insight and educates more than 98% on this site. So he had a bad year, but that doesn't take away from the positive he brings to the site and to many he teaches with his knowledge. 

     

    To call him out for having a bad year is a bit juvenile if you ask me. He's not forcing anyone to follow his plays and the dude makes sound logical investments based on his own method. Yes, he puts himself out there to be ridiculed and fucked with like anyone else, but if you are going to start attacking someone of this caliber then you fucks will attack anyone.

     

    Vanzack even predicted that bitcoin would be big before bitcoin even knew what it was...

     

    None of you fucks will ever be invited to the yacht, but you might get some nunchucks upside yo head...

     

    Go fuck yourselves. peace_5

     

     

     
     
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