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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 11:43 AM ET #26

    @dubz4dummyz

     There is no Qb in the league that can survive with 0 receivers 0 oline and their best rb injured. He took a mediocre team to the playoffs last year and had a big year. No he has weapons and a center. We will see this year but i believe he throws for 4000+ yds and 25+ tds

    Success is never final, failure is never fatal, and it's the courage that counts.
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     There is no Qb in the league that can survive with 0 receivers 0 oline and their best rb injured. He took a mediocre team to the playoffs last year and had a big year. No he has weapons and a center. We will see this year but i believe he throws for 4000+ yds and 25+ tds

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 11:53 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper:

    @dubz4dummyz  There is no Qb in the league that can survive with 0 receivers 0 oline and their best rb injured. He took a mediocre team to the playoffs last year and had a big year. No he has weapons and a center. We will see this year but i believe he throws for 4000+ yds and 25+ tds

     

    Vanilla Vick is either the Messiah or a career mediocre QB in the making. This will be a very telling year. One thing is certain, Giants fans love him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyncapper:

    @dubz4dummyz  There is no Qb in the league that can survive with 0 receivers 0 oline and their best rb injured. He took a mediocre team to the playoffs last year and had a big year. No he has weapons and a center. We will see this year but i believe he throws for 4000+ yds and 25+ tds

     

    Vanilla Vick is either the Messiah or a career mediocre QB in the making. This will be a very telling year. One thing is certain, Giants fans love him.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 1:42 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac: Could you use Jonathan Taylor

    Absolutely not.

    The Bears have 3 studs in the backfield at RB.

    Khalil Herbert, Donta Foreman,  and Roschon Johnson. 

    All 3 will be used. Their mileage will be maintained well imo. That Johnson kid from Texas might be the sneakiest pick of the draft since he backed up Bijon for 4 years. The dude would of started at any other school who didn't have Bijon on the roster.

    And Fields can run a bit himself I've heard.

    The Bears GM is a good $ manager, no chance in hell they're looking at Johnathan Taylor. Nor do they have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac: Could you use Jonathan Taylor

    Absolutely not.

    The Bears have 3 studs in the backfield at RB.

    Khalil Herbert, Donta Foreman,  and Roschon Johnson. 

    All 3 will be used. Their mileage will be maintained well imo. That Johnson kid from Texas might be the sneakiest pick of the draft since he backed up Bijon for 4 years. The dude would of started at any other school who didn't have Bijon on the roster.

    And Fields can run a bit himself I've heard.

    The Bears GM is a good $ manager, no chance in hell they're looking at Johnathan Taylor. Nor do they have to.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 1:57 PM ET #29

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-gm-shuffle-with-michael-lombardi-and-femi-abebefe/id1458884463

    This podcast should get the football juices flowing 

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    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-gm-shuffle-with-michael-lombardi-and-femi-abebefe/id1458884463

    This podcast should get the football juices flowing 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 3:26 PM ET #30

    @undermysac

     Similar situation with miles Sanders sitting behind saquon at Penn state...miles turned out a decent pro

     

     

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     Similar situation with miles Sanders sitting behind saquon at Penn state...miles turned out a decent pro

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 3:28 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: Nice   Didn't realize the panthers OL was a mess...thanks....they gashed some teams in the run game last year but I didn't really look into their pass pro last year   Giants RSW is because they won a ton of 1 score games and had a couple improbable comeback wins.  Oddsmakers expect a regression in that area as they put up an unsustainable number.   Initial numbers that caught my eye   Cin/cle under 47.5....prefer if burrow doesn't play...browns should run the ball to.keep it away cincy offense...divisional games always a little bit tighter   Ten/no under 41.5....2 under rated def imo...carr in  a new system could be slow going for 2-3 weeks...tannehill usually a game manager and titans love to pound the run...like one team under 20 points here   Sf/pit under 40.5....Pickett and Purdy kinda scare me here....sf elite D...steelers d not to shabby either...hard to see both teams over 20 here ...not sure how totals fare on west team flying east or vice-versa   Mia/lac over 50.5....missed this at 50.0 at my book....fave over of the week....should be 2 top 10 offenses this season, if not top 5...like both teams over 20+ points here...don't like that mia has to fly west   Titans +3.5... they should keep NO close...gritty team....decent coach...good running game...I like the under which typically favors the + points   Will be looking at props in the kc/det, mia/lac and tb/min games..already have a few circled and waiting on lines   looks like we agree on a lot

    It seems we do

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz: Nice   Didn't realize the panthers OL was a mess...thanks....they gashed some teams in the run game last year but I didn't really look into their pass pro last year   Giants RSW is because they won a ton of 1 score games and had a couple improbable comeback wins.  Oddsmakers expect a regression in that area as they put up an unsustainable number.   Initial numbers that caught my eye   Cin/cle under 47.5....prefer if burrow doesn't play...browns should run the ball to.keep it away cincy offense...divisional games always a little bit tighter   Ten/no under 41.5....2 under rated def imo...carr in  a new system could be slow going for 2-3 weeks...tannehill usually a game manager and titans love to pound the run...like one team under 20 points here   Sf/pit under 40.5....Pickett and Purdy kinda scare me here....sf elite D...steelers d not to shabby either...hard to see both teams over 20 here ...not sure how totals fare on west team flying east or vice-versa   Mia/lac over 50.5....missed this at 50.0 at my book....fave over of the week....should be 2 top 10 offenses this season, if not top 5...like both teams over 20+ points here...don't like that mia has to fly west   Titans +3.5... they should keep NO close...gritty team....decent coach...good running game...I like the under which typically favors the + points   Will be looking at props in the kc/det, mia/lac and tb/min games..already have a few circled and waiting on lines   looks like we agree on a lot

    It seems we do

    an_speechlessan_roll_laugh

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 3:30 PM ET #32

    Raiders getting 4 at Denver seems a bit odd....home field for sure....is Payton giving them the extra points ? Books expecting a better Russ? 

     

    Jacobs is playing for raiders right or he in a hold out?

     

    Thought -2.5 or -3 be a little more accurate

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    Raiders getting 4 at Denver seems a bit odd....home field for sure....is Payton giving them the extra points ? Books expecting a better Russ? 

     

    Jacobs is playing for raiders right or he in a hold out?

     

    Thought -2.5 or -3 be a little more accurate

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 4:02 PM ET #33

    2 big problems for the Bears o line.

    Tevin Jenkins has a mystery injury and will miss time. Then today 1st rd pick Darnell Wright got an ankle injury in practice. 

    Not good.

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    2 big problems for the Bears o line.

    Tevin Jenkins has a mystery injury and will miss time. Then today 1st rd pick Darnell Wright got an ankle injury in practice. 

    Not good.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 6:06 PM ET #34

    @undermysac

     Who in your view has the better quarterback this year, Green Bay or Chicago?

    Keep at it.
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     Who in your view has the better quarterback this year, Green Bay or Chicago?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky_Hank:

    @undermysac  Who in your view has the better quarterback this year, Green Bay or Chicago?

    Don't know much about Jordan Love

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cranky_Hank:

    @undermysac  Who in your view has the better quarterback this year, Green Bay or Chicago?

    Don't know much about Jordan Love

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 7:39 PM ET #36

    GB thinks pretty highly of him.

    A lot like when Rodgers took over from Favre.  Favre won a Super Bowl but they were ready for new blood.

    Fields looked best the second half of last season when they let him scramble.  He actually lived up to his hype.  When they forced him to stay as a pocket passer, they took away 60% of his offense.

    A qb who can roll the pocket or run is extremely dangerous, unless he’s Lamar Jackson.

    Keep at it.
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    GB thinks pretty highly of him.

    A lot like when Rodgers took over from Favre.  Favre won a Super Bowl but they were ready for new blood.

    Fields looked best the second half of last season when they let him scramble.  He actually lived up to his hype.  When they forced him to stay as a pocket passer, they took away 60% of his offense.

    A qb who can roll the pocket or run is extremely dangerous, unless he’s Lamar Jackson.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 8:46 PM ET #37

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    Fwiw, this is basically Love's rookie season. Think he has only 80 some pass attempts. He played for Utah State.

    Fields has started 25 games in 2 years. He played for Ohio State.

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    Fwiw, this is basically Love's rookie season. Think he has only 80 some pass attempts. He played for Utah State.

    Fields has started 25 games in 2 years. He played for Ohio State.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2023 - 9:38 PM ET #38

    green bay has had like three qb's over the last 30 years.. i can't doubt jordan love. this is what they do

    beautifully done, d

    i like steelers this year. i think they make shit happen. baltimore can, but will lamar, shrimp? it seems like with every year that goes by, the more boomhauer lamar gets. how the fuck does anyone understand what he's saying? miami is gonna be sneaky if tua stays healthy. he's taking jiu-jitsu classes all summer to learn how to fall correctly. (not a joke), i'm putting a future on them to win the conference. does anyone know who the starting qb's are in the nfc south? just pound the bucs rsw under. bears fans are way too optimistic. locals say playoff bound. i say 6-7 wins would be awesome. cowboys... dak, stop throwing picks and you get in. my god/ but seriously, there's gotta be regression to turnovers, right?

    No team is as good as it looks when winning nor are they as bad as they look when losing
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    green bay has had like three qb's over the last 30 years.. i can't doubt jordan love. this is what they do

    beautifully done, d

    i like steelers this year. i think they make shit happen. baltimore can, but will lamar, shrimp? it seems like with every year that goes by, the more boomhauer lamar gets. how the fuck does anyone understand what he's saying? miami is gonna be sneaky if tua stays healthy. he's taking jiu-jitsu classes all summer to learn how to fall correctly. (not a joke), i'm putting a future on them to win the conference. does anyone know who the starting qb's are in the nfc south? just pound the bucs rsw under. bears fans are way too optimistic. locals say playoff bound. i say 6-7 wins would be awesome. cowboys... dak, stop throwing picks and you get in. my god/ but seriously, there's gotta be regression to turnovers, right?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2023 - 8:10 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @Biscuiteater1  Ya I just wonder if it plummets to like 43 or something if they announce burrow out   Total is 5-5 to this number last 10 matchups and 3-1 to the  under last 4...if u don't like going to far back as so much changes year to year in the NFL
    just noticed Bengals first 3 draft choices went for defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @Biscuiteater1  Ya I just wonder if it plummets to like 43 or something if they announce burrow out   Total is 5-5 to this number last 10 matchups and 3-1 to the  under last 4...if u don't like going to far back as so much changes year to year in the NFL
    just noticed Bengals first 3 draft choices went for defense.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2023 - 8:59 AM ET #40

    6 teams each will have their vacay in week 7 & 13.

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    6 teams each will have their vacay in week 7 & 13.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    6 teams each will have their vacay in week 7 & 13.
     

    #7 Panthers  Cincy  Dallas  Houston  Jets  Titans

    #13 Ravens  Bills  Bears  Vegas  Vikes  Gints

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    6 teams each will have their vacay in week 7 & 13.
     

    #7 Panthers  Cincy  Dallas  Houston  Jets  Titans

    #13 Ravens  Bills  Bears  Vegas  Vikes  Gints

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2023 - 11:56 AM ET #42

    Thanks Biscuit peace_5

    We should also post the teams with 9 home games, and the teams with only 8. Ever since they expanded to 17 last year, it's an uneven balance.

    Then we could further look at scheduling quirks. For instance the Bills are the "home" team in week 5 in London.

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    Thanks Biscuit peace_5

    We should also post the teams with 9 home games, and the teams with only 8. Ever since they expanded to 17 last year, it's an uneven balance.

    Then we could further look at scheduling quirks. For instance the Bills are the "home" team in week 5 in London.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by garbonzobros:

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: Quote Originally Posted by mrcacciatore: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,off topic, yankees/nats over 8.5 table max,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,dammit,,,,,,cant win em all, still quite a heater though,,,,,,,,yanks/nats over 8.5 table max,,,,,,,rays/rockies over 8,,,,table max,,,,,,indians +220,,,,,astros -110,,,,,,,,,,,,i know i know these dont belong in here, but i thought maybe i could sneak em in here, try to lay low, confuse jonny law,,,

     

    Is this Cynax?  Last 3 yankee games they were 1 hit /2 hit /no hit by the 5th inning. Leslie Mcgenzie Gore (Nats) has pitched 5 Unders L5. Are you counting on 9runs by Nats vs Severino's BP fastball? Pardon me for posting Baseball during Baseball season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garbonzobros:

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: Quote Originally Posted by mrcacciatore: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,off topic, yankees/nats over 8.5 table max,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,dammit,,,,,,cant win em all, still quite a heater though,,,,,,,,yanks/nats over 8.5 table max,,,,,,,rays/rockies over 8,,,,table max,,,,,,indians +220,,,,,astros -110,,,,,,,,,,,,i know i know these dont belong in here, but i thought maybe i could sneak em in here, try to lay low, confuse jonny law,,,

     

    Is this Cynax?  Last 3 yankee games they were 1 hit /2 hit /no hit by the 5th inning. Leslie Mcgenzie Gore (Nats) has pitched 5 Unders L5. Are you counting on 9runs by Nats vs Severino's BP fastball? Pardon me for posting Baseball during Baseball season.

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    All AFC teams get 9 home games this season, Jets get 10 games in their home stadium this year...because they play the GMen

    There will be at least 1 Saturday game in weeks 15-18

    The Lions have 3 Thursday games

    Packers/Raiders/Dolphins/Niners start the season with 2 road games

    The Rams and Niners are facing 4 teams EACH that are coming off a bye week.  To put that in perspective, there are 12 teams this season who face ZERO teams coming off a bye.  That is some bad luck there for the Niners eh....,,,,,,,2 road games to start the show and 4 games against extra rested mf'ers

    Ravens, Panthers, Broncos, Giants, Titans are only teams in NFL this season who have 3 consecutive road games. 

    Falcons have easiest SOS, Eagles have toughest SOS

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    All AFC teams get 9 home games this season, Jets get 10 games in their home stadium this year...because they play the GMen

    There will be at least 1 Saturday game in weeks 15-18

    The Lions have 3 Thursday games

    Packers/Raiders/Dolphins/Niners start the season with 2 road games

    The Rams and Niners are facing 4 teams EACH that are coming off a bye week.  To put that in perspective, there are 12 teams this season who face ZERO teams coming off a bye.  That is some bad luck there for the Niners eh....,,,,,,,2 road games to start the show and 4 games against extra rested mf'ers

    Ravens, Panthers, Broncos, Giants, Titans are only teams in NFL this season who have 3 consecutive road games. 

    Falcons have easiest SOS, Eagles have toughest SOS

     
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    So what dumb ass team is willing to give up a first rd draft pick for Jonathan Taylor coming off of ankle surgery?

    He reported to Colts camp on July 25th and hasn't practiced as he's on the active unable to preform list.

    Rosters get trimmed down to 53 on Tuesday, and this is the Colts "trade Taylor" deadline. If they don't, they either have to pay him and activate him. Or put him on the reserve pup list, which means he'd miss the first 4 weeks of the season. 

    This Colts organization is terrible. Irsay is a drunken fool.

    BTW, this is the 7th consecutive year that the Colts will have a different QB starting week 1.

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    So what dumb ass team is willing to give up a first rd draft pick for Jonathan Taylor coming off of ankle surgery?

    He reported to Colts camp on July 25th and hasn't practiced as he's on the active unable to preform list.

    Rosters get trimmed down to 53 on Tuesday, and this is the Colts "trade Taylor" deadline. If they don't, they either have to pay him and activate him. Or put him on the reserve pup list, which means he'd miss the first 4 weeks of the season. 

    This Colts organization is terrible. Irsay is a drunken fool.

    BTW, this is the 7th consecutive year that the Colts will have a different QB starting week 1.

     
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    https://www.covers.com/forum/nfl-betting-21/nfl-week-1---early-leans-ampamp-some-thoughts-103754782/1

    Found this thread. Good early discussion here. It's from the mains, but Icon is a regular in the PB.

    The Vikings schedule is ass. Their first b2b home games come in week 15 and 16. And both vs division. 

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    https://www.covers.com/forum/nfl-betting-21/nfl-week-1---early-leans-ampamp-some-thoughts-103754782/1

    Found this thread. Good early discussion here. It's from the mains, but Icon is a regular in the PB.

    The Vikings schedule is ass. Their first b2b home games come in week 15 and 16. And both vs division. 

    peace_5

     
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     agreed 10000%.  Especially in this current climate of RB carousel,,,,,it would surprise the shit outta me if a team paid extra for Taylor.  From what I read there are 6 teams already that have made an offer, which essentially means dick because they all could be shitty offers.

    Irsay could get spiteful and just want to get rid of him though, and take the best picks that are on the table.  The Dolphins already have some injuries at RB to Wilson and Achane, leaving Mostert and Ahmed and/or Gaskin (underrated imo) to shoulder the early load.

    The Colts also did next to nothing at WR in the offseason besides bringing McKenzie (also underrated imo) over from Buffalo, but he is a 5'8" slot guy.  They drafted a slot receiver out of north carolina with their 3rd round pick, and then signed basically the same friggin guy from Buffalo. Now granted Josh Downs had over 100 catches last year, but positionally it makes little sense.  They really did dick at TE as well, Jelani Woods had one decent games last year but if I remember that was in a weird game when Matt Ryan was starting and Woods caught like half his completions. They drafted a guy out of Miami who had 115 total catches in 5 years, when they could have probably found a big target of a WR to at least take a shot on.  They have a ton of TEs that can make the roster, Cox, Woods, Mallory, Granson, Ogletree, someone is gonna get cut either the pick from last year or this year.  

    You are correct, Irsay is a complete jackass and I am certain there are multiple people here in the penalty box that could run that team better.  Remember when he used to slur his words on TV during interviews lol.  Schmuck.  Painkillers and vodka are undefeated.

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     agreed 10000%.  Especially in this current climate of RB carousel,,,,,it would surprise the shit outta me if a team paid extra for Taylor.  From what I read there are 6 teams already that have made an offer, which essentially means dick because they all could be shitty offers.

    Irsay could get spiteful and just want to get rid of him though, and take the best picks that are on the table.  The Dolphins already have some injuries at RB to Wilson and Achane, leaving Mostert and Ahmed and/or Gaskin (underrated imo) to shoulder the early load.

    The Colts also did next to nothing at WR in the offseason besides bringing McKenzie (also underrated imo) over from Buffalo, but he is a 5'8" slot guy.  They drafted a slot receiver out of north carolina with their 3rd round pick, and then signed basically the same friggin guy from Buffalo. Now granted Josh Downs had over 100 catches last year, but positionally it makes little sense.  They really did dick at TE as well, Jelani Woods had one decent games last year but if I remember that was in a weird game when Matt Ryan was starting and Woods caught like half his completions. They drafted a guy out of Miami who had 115 total catches in 5 years, when they could have probably found a big target of a WR to at least take a shot on.  They have a ton of TEs that can make the roster, Cox, Woods, Mallory, Granson, Ogletree, someone is gonna get cut either the pick from last year or this year.  

    You are correct, Irsay is a complete jackass and I am certain there are multiple people here in the penalty box that could run that team better.  Remember when he used to slur his words on TV during interviews lol.  Schmuck.  Painkillers and vodka are undefeated.

     
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    I never bet against home divisional dogs, but Indy I would never back week 1 vs the Jags.

    I feel like there will be plenty of folks thinking they are sharp taking them, to only see their tickets on fire by halftime. 

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    I never bet against home divisional dogs, but Indy I would never back week 1 vs the Jags.

    I feel like there will be plenty of folks thinking they are sharp taking them, to only see their tickets on fire by halftime. 

     
     
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    I mentioned in the write ups I’m inclined to lay the points there even in a road division game.  I just can’t see how this team with all the distractions.   Lack of talent and rookie QB can stay within 4 of this game.   So I’m sure they will.   Lol

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    I mentioned in the write ups I’m inclined to lay the points there even in a road division game.  I just can’t see how this team with all the distractions.   Lack of talent and rookie QB can stay within 4 of this game.   So I’m sure they will.   Lol

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