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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2011 - 3:58 PM ET #226

    Have you guys realized why scalabrine picked that name and uses that players basketball picture as his av?

    Because as a black man, he believes the only reason that the real Brian Scalabrine played in the NBA was because he is white.
    By using the players NBA picture as his av, he is merely making yet another racist point in his long line of racist views.

    Meanwhile, this idiot continues to portray himself as a white man here on Covers, who is just lobbying for the rights of blacks. If the person typing all the nonsense truly believed in racial equality, perhaps he should start with being honest about the color of his own skin ... oh wait, he couldn't do that because then more people would recognize him as the racist that he is.

    Carry on   
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    Have you guys realized why scalabrine picked that name and uses that players basketball picture as his av?

    Because as a black man, he believes the only reason that the real Brian Scalabrine played in the NBA was because he is white.
    By using the players NBA picture as his av, he is merely making yet another racist point in his long line of racist views.

    Meanwhile, this idiot continues to portray himself as a white man here on Covers, who is just lobbying for the rights of blacks. If the person typing all the nonsense truly believed in racial equality, perhaps he should start with being honest about the color of his own skin ... oh wait, he couldn't do that because then more people would recognize him as the racist that he is.

    Carry on   
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2011 - 3:59 PM ET #227

    https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/brian_scalabrine_worst_player_in_celtics_history/3246785

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    https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/brian_scalabrine_worst_player_in_celtics_history/3246785

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2011 - 8:54 AM ET #228

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Wow. Did you really just say that?

    First, he's not black. His mother was the same race as yours.

    Second, you are trying to imply that one black male being 'ushered' into the presidency on the minority vote ("Hopefully blacks don't vote for him again) somehow has an effect on the economic and social status of 40 million black Americans just because he was elected. Makes sense? 

    Also, Obama would have lost the white vote if whites alone voted. Why is it, that blacks only voted for Obama because he was black, but whites are perceived to have a race-neutral vote when at the ballot bos???? Dominant group thinking ladies and gentlemen....

    A hell of a lot more whites voted for Obama than Blacks voted for McCain. FACT!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Wow. Did you really just say that?

    First, he's not black. His mother was the same race as yours.

    Second, you are trying to imply that one black male being 'ushered' into the presidency on the minority vote ("Hopefully blacks don't vote for him again) somehow has an effect on the economic and social status of 40 million black Americans just because he was elected. Makes sense? 

    Also, Obama would have lost the white vote if whites alone voted. Why is it, that blacks only voted for Obama because he was black, but whites are perceived to have a race-neutral vote when at the ballot bos???? Dominant group thinking ladies and gentlemen....

    A hell of a lot more whites voted for Obama than Blacks voted for McCain. FACT!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 2:32 PM ET #229

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    True Scal, but what is the goal of the educator? To educate, right? If the message is not being willingly received by the audience of the speaker, then wouldn't the true educator then figure out a way to present his message in a way that was much more easily digestible?

    I encounter this problem frequently in what I do. Part of my job is trying to understand what is the best way to present my message in the hopes that 12 strangers see things my way, not my opponent's way. Right now Scal, because of how you present your message, your opponents have wide open holes to drive through to distract people by pointing to your methods of argument rather than the actual substance of your claims, which is really what is important, right?

    I think Scal's goal is laudable. I think his means are completely 100% flawed.

    The problem with your argument about comparison of the methodology of dissemination of my message and yours is that you work for the private sector. Your sole purpose is to represent a client. Once a client and monetary goals are involved, any resulting action for the sake of true justice is corrupted. You MUST represent your client in the best way possible to convince a judge or jury that your argument is the one that should be ruled in favor of. 

    I, on the other hand, have no clients to serve, nor do I receive any monetary gains for the stance I take. That is the single most important prerequisite when considering whether an argument can or should be believed. I serve a minority interest in general, but there is no single minority that can claim I represent them for a personal gain. As a matter of fact, the anonymity of this site even furthers the just purpose of the message. It simply can't be self-serving because there is no overarching achievement I am laying claim to other than deliverance of truth. (Some say I like to get a rise out of others and that is pure poppycock and not worth my time).

    The vitriol that flows through my threads lies in the obstinateness of the members here who blindly refuse to recognize history with regard to the current socioeconomic condition blacks and the caucasian role, both present and historical, with regard to that condition. ABooksNightmare even had the gall to compare statistics I cited from as recent as 1998 to the era of slavery! 

    Now what historian, or public intellectual, or pundit of any worth would disregard Israel's recognition of statehood in 1949, or the centuries of Middle East conflict, or the the wars going back to antiquity when considering how to evaluate the legitimacy (or illegitimacy) of the Palestinians plight to gain statehood within the UN today? 

    The answer is of course, no one. It not only plays a role, it is the sole reason why their IS conflict. 

    But when it comes to race lines demarcated in America and its institutions, and the socioeconomic status of blacks in the US, there isn't a single social scientist, economist, or historian outside of the US who would disregard decades of redlining, housing discrimination, loan discrimination, de jour segregation, employment discrimination, lack of quality health care, flagrant civil rights violations, unjust arrest/prosecution/execution/mass incarceration, and the stigmatizing of the black race in general etc. etc. etc. by American caucasians throughout history. You couldn't find ONE.  

    But what do you see on covers? EXACTLY this. "Look ahead! You're always looking at the past. For the black race to better itself, you need to look AHEAD!" Why? Miseducation, misinformation, implicit bias, overt bigotry and lack of basic knowledge about the topic (given our schools both public and private want NO PART of upsetting the apple cart owned by dominant society). 

    Also, resentment plays a MAJOR role. Why? America's caucasian history is a sordid and gruesome one of exploitation, domination, subjugation, corruption, murder, and genocide all in the name of Western capitalism, white expansionism, and manifest destiny (which no doubt still reigns supreme today). There are of course, good things about American history but the genocide and exploitation that has occurred so commerce and technology could evolve, and alleged prosperity could be shared among a few, and the ability for us to surf the web on our cellphones and shop at Target, in no weigh outweighs those aforementioned atrocities. 

    As an example, I ask anyone here to stand up and proudly justify the "Indian Removal" and eventual Indian extermination after the Revolutionary War that occurred on the land you currently have rights to (you don't 'own' it); which was accomplished by (and is not limited to) the violation of DOZENS of treaties and the outright slaughter, starvation and diaspora of men, women and children of the Cherokee, Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Seminole etc. Nations; ALL in the name of Western capitalism and the domination and proliferation of the white race. Was that worth it? Speak to the Indian blood in the soil beneath your feet when you do. Could those treaties have been honored? Could we have peaceably existed with Indians to achieve or capitalist based goals? Now that that era has passed, and 'sovereign' Indian lands are some of impoverished in the US today, do the 'profits' of our economic model belong solely to the caucasians whose ancestors slaughtered Indian ancestors to set our current economic model into motion? Could those profits have existed otherwise? 

    These are questions people REFUSE to ask and answer because they know the answers would upset the current status quo and alter their standard of living. 

    Therefore, I KNOW I will be confronted with push-back, intolerance and insults when making a post. It is part of the process. And like a prize fighter, I willingly dish it back. When the bell is rung, whoever lays bleeding on the canvas is irrelevant. The message itself has never changed and is no less true than before the fight began. I was simply the one who confronted the issue, on this site anyway. I wasn't the first, nor will I be the last. But one thing is for certain, the people here, however frivolous you deem a gambling website, will be informed of there implicit/over personal prejudices as evidenced by their conduct here, as well as the prejudices of their living peers and ancestors, and the harm those collective prejudices have on millions within American society who they deem unlike themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    True Scal, but what is the goal of the educator? To educate, right? If the message is not being willingly received by the audience of the speaker, then wouldn't the true educator then figure out a way to present his message in a way that was much more easily digestible?

    I encounter this problem frequently in what I do. Part of my job is trying to understand what is the best way to present my message in the hopes that 12 strangers see things my way, not my opponent's way. Right now Scal, because of how you present your message, your opponents have wide open holes to drive through to distract people by pointing to your methods of argument rather than the actual substance of your claims, which is really what is important, right?

    I think Scal's goal is laudable. I think his means are completely 100% flawed.

    The problem with your argument about comparison of the methodology of dissemination of my message and yours is that you work for the private sector. Your sole purpose is to represent a client. Once a client and monetary goals are involved, any resulting action for the sake of true justice is corrupted. You MUST represent your client in the best way possible to convince a judge or jury that your argument is the one that should be ruled in favor of. 

    I, on the other hand, have no clients to serve, nor do I receive any monetary gains for the stance I take. That is the single most important prerequisite when considering whether an argument can or should be believed. I serve a minority interest in general, but there is no single minority that can claim I represent them for a personal gain. As a matter of fact, the anonymity of this site even furthers the just purpose of the message. It simply can't be self-serving because there is no overarching achievement I am laying claim to other than deliverance of truth. (Some say I like to get a rise out of others and that is pure poppycock and not worth my time).

    The vitriol that flows through my threads lies in the obstinateness of the members here who blindly refuse to recognize history with regard to the current socioeconomic condition blacks and the caucasian role, both present and historical, with regard to that condition. ABooksNightmare even had the gall to compare statistics I cited from as recent as 1998 to the era of slavery! 

    Now what historian, or public intellectual, or pundit of any worth would disregard Israel's recognition of statehood in 1949, or the centuries of Middle East conflict, or the the wars going back to antiquity when considering how to evaluate the legitimacy (or illegitimacy) of the Palestinians plight to gain statehood within the UN today? 

    The answer is of course, no one. It not only plays a role, it is the sole reason why their IS conflict. 

    But when it comes to race lines demarcated in America and its institutions, and the socioeconomic status of blacks in the US, there isn't a single social scientist, economist, or historian outside of the US who would disregard decades of redlining, housing discrimination, loan discrimination, de jour segregation, employment discrimination, lack of quality health care, flagrant civil rights violations, unjust arrest/prosecution/execution/mass incarceration, and the stigmatizing of the black race in general etc. etc. etc. by American caucasians throughout history. You couldn't find ONE.  

    But what do you see on covers? EXACTLY this. "Look ahead! You're always looking at the past. For the black race to better itself, you need to look AHEAD!" Why? Miseducation, misinformation, implicit bias, overt bigotry and lack of basic knowledge about the topic (given our schools both public and private want NO PART of upsetting the apple cart owned by dominant society). 

    Also, resentment plays a MAJOR role. Why? America's caucasian history is a sordid and gruesome one of exploitation, domination, subjugation, corruption, murder, and genocide all in the name of Western capitalism, white expansionism, and manifest destiny (which no doubt still reigns supreme today). There are of course, good things about American history but the genocide and exploitation that has occurred so commerce and technology could evolve, and alleged prosperity could be shared among a few, and the ability for us to surf the web on our cellphones and shop at Target, in no weigh outweighs those aforementioned atrocities. 

    As an example, I ask anyone here to stand up and proudly justify the "Indian Removal" and eventual Indian extermination after the Revolutionary War that occurred on the land you currently have rights to (you don't 'own' it); which was accomplished by (and is not limited to) the violation of DOZENS of treaties and the outright slaughter, starvation and diaspora of men, women and children of the Cherokee, Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Seminole etc. Nations; ALL in the name of Western capitalism and the domination and proliferation of the white race. Was that worth it? Speak to the Indian blood in the soil beneath your feet when you do. Could those treaties have been honored? Could we have peaceably existed with Indians to achieve or capitalist based goals? Now that that era has passed, and 'sovereign' Indian lands are some of impoverished in the US today, do the 'profits' of our economic model belong solely to the caucasians whose ancestors slaughtered Indian ancestors to set our current economic model into motion? Could those profits have existed otherwise? 

    These are questions people REFUSE to ask and answer because they know the answers would upset the current status quo and alter their standard of living. 

    Therefore, I KNOW I will be confronted with push-back, intolerance and insults when making a post. It is part of the process. And like a prize fighter, I willingly dish it back. When the bell is rung, whoever lays bleeding on the canvas is irrelevant. The message itself has never changed and is no less true than before the fight began. I was simply the one who confronted the issue, on this site anyway. I wasn't the first, nor will I be the last. But one thing is for certain, the people here, however frivolous you deem a gambling website, will be informed of there implicit/over personal prejudices as evidenced by their conduct here, as well as the prejudices of their living peers and ancestors, and the harm those collective prejudices have on millions within American society who they deem unlike themselves.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 2:37 PM ET #230

    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    scalabrine, why don't you go take out your frustrations on GTA San Andreas. you can take out as many whities as you would like with CJ and after a few minutes of running, the cops will let you alone. and if you are really feeling crazy, you can pimp slap a white businessman with a big rubber dick.


    I can't believe you are still willing to show your face around these parts considering you ran away from a capping contest that you knew you would lose.

    I recall you using the word 'box' too...Irony thicker than your subcutaneous belly fat...
     
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    scalabrine, why don't you go take out your frustrations on GTA San Andreas. you can take out as many whities as you would like with CJ and after a few minutes of running, the cops will let you alone. and if you are really feeling crazy, you can pimp slap a white businessman with a big rubber dick.


    I can't believe you are still willing to show your face around these parts considering you ran away from a capping contest that you knew you would lose.

    I recall you using the word 'box' too...Irony thicker than your subcutaneous belly fat...
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 2:53 PM ET #231

    Quote Originally Posted by NoWorries21:


    A hell of a lot more whites voted for Obama than Blacks voted for McCain. FACT!!

    Your point is what?

    Wouldn't that FACT!! happen by default since they outnumber blacks 6 to 1 and the Democrat party has had loyal party voters for decades regardless of who is representing the party?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoWorries21:


    A hell of a lot more whites voted for Obama than Blacks voted for McCain. FACT!!

    Your point is what?

    Wouldn't that FACT!! happen by default since they outnumber blacks 6 to 1 and the Democrat party has had loyal party voters for decades regardless of who is representing the party?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 3:34 PM ET #232

    You said in your opening post in that thread to "MAKE THE RULES." 

    I did. No one on the site objected to them with regard to fairness and you asked if we could have a poll. The answer was no. I wanted public picks for accountability. Your picks are meaningless to me and again, if you wanted to fade mine I would be happy for your to do so.

    Anyhow, everyone here saw your response (i.e. letting the thread die) so it's all good. You've wasted enough of my time and the point (i.e. your cowardice after false bravado) was made anyhow.
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    You said in your opening post in that thread to "MAKE THE RULES." 

    I did. No one on the site objected to them with regard to fairness and you asked if we could have a poll. The answer was no. I wanted public picks for accountability. Your picks are meaningless to me and again, if you wanted to fade mine I would be happy for your to do so.

    Anyhow, everyone here saw your response (i.e. letting the thread die) so it's all good. You've wasted enough of my time and the point (i.e. your cowardice after false bravado) was made anyhow.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 3:53 PM ET #233

    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    dude, all I fucking asked was to set up an office pool, how fucking hard is that, and what was the big deal?

    just admit you are nothing but a fucking attention person who is a half-rate box capper.

    if anyone is the coward, it is you. I'll go head to head with you anytime you want. you're actually lucky the head to head didn't start in week one, because more than likely you would have been on your way out this week.

    I didn't let the thread die, you pussed out when I asked for it to be a poll with hidden picks from each other.

    why don't you get out of the house and do something positive in the world instead of wasting everyone's time on here with your anti-white bullshit and your piss poor capping ability.

    "YOU MAKE THE RULES."

    I made the rules. I wanted public picks. That's not an unusual demand.

    Do you even understand what you offered?

    People now know who the box was (not like they thought any different of you otherwise)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    dude, all I fucking asked was to set up an office pool, how fucking hard is that, and what was the big deal?

    just admit you are nothing but a fucking attention person who is a half-rate box capper.

    if anyone is the coward, it is you. I'll go head to head with you anytime you want. you're actually lucky the head to head didn't start in week one, because more than likely you would have been on your way out this week.

    I didn't let the thread die, you pussed out when I asked for it to be a poll with hidden picks from each other.

    why don't you get out of the house and do something positive in the world instead of wasting everyone's time on here with your anti-white bullshit and your piss poor capping ability.

    "YOU MAKE THE RULES."

    I made the rules. I wanted public picks. That's not an unusual demand.

    Do you even understand what you offered?

    People now know who the box was (not like they thought any different of you otherwise)...

     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 4:06 PM ET #234

    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    what is the difference where the picks are made at? you could post them in the office poll and then post what you are taking in a thread right after the game starts so everyone will know.

    thread is up bitch.
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=41?=101138950

    When I'm ready...

    Put your little hoagie there in your open fly and wait...There's more than enough room...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    what is the difference where the picks are made at? you could post them in the office poll and then post what you are taking in a thread right after the game starts so everyone will know.

    thread is up bitch.
    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=41?=101138950

    When I'm ready...

    Put your little hoagie there in your open fly and wait...There's more than enough room...
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 5:13 PM ET #235

    Scal is the fucking man boy.....Typing 180 WPM out here arguing with the world........
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 5:26 PM ET #236

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    What about them? That question is too open-ended for me to address with any focus. Of course Asians suffer from discrimination in this country to degrees whites will deny to the high heavens. Their discrimination is distinct from black discrimination in terms of stereotypes and effect, but still exists to the point where legal challenges can and should be made (that is, they are serious enough to warrant attention and action).


    I guess this was the response I was sort of looking for from you.  So, we both can agree that discrimination affects both blacks and asians.  Well, I am an asian-american and have been personally affected by it in the past.  Yet I don't just sit here and complain all fucking day long about the white man and how unfair this world is.  Why complain when you can go out there and do something about it?  If you and many black people, and asians or hispanics for that matter, would just concentrate on yourself and take more control of your life, I think you and those people would less likely have such anger/hatred toward society.  Sure, racism still remains a part of the American mentality.  But, if people wanted to squash this mentality, they would do whatever possible to achieve and not fall into the stereotypes that seem to exist for a reason.


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    What about them? That question is too open-ended for me to address with any focus. Of course Asians suffer from discrimination in this country to degrees whites will deny to the high heavens. Their discrimination is distinct from black discrimination in terms of stereotypes and effect, but still exists to the point where legal challenges can and should be made (that is, they are serious enough to warrant attention and action).


    I guess this was the response I was sort of looking for from you.  So, we both can agree that discrimination affects both blacks and asians.  Well, I am an asian-american and have been personally affected by it in the past.  Yet I don't just sit here and complain all fucking day long about the white man and how unfair this world is.  Why complain when you can go out there and do something about it?  If you and many black people, and asians or hispanics for that matter, would just concentrate on yourself and take more control of your life, I think you and those people would less likely have such anger/hatred toward society.  Sure, racism still remains a part of the American mentality.  But, if people wanted to squash this mentality, they would do whatever possible to achieve and not fall into the stereotypes that seem to exist for a reason.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 6:01 PM ET #237

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Have you guys realized why scalabrine picked that name and uses that players basketball picture as his av?

    Because as a black man, he believes the only reason that the real Brian Scalabrine played in the NBA was because he is white.
    By using the players NBA picture as his av, he is merely making yet another racist point in his long line of racist views.

    Meanwhile, this idiot continues to portray himself as a white man here on Covers, who is just lobbying for the rights of blacks. If the person typing all the nonsense truly believed in racial equality, perhaps he should start with being honest about the color of his own skin ... oh wait, he couldn't do that because then more people would recognize him as the racist that he is.

    Carry on   





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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

    Have you guys realized why scalabrine picked that name and uses that players basketball picture as his av?

    Because as a black man, he believes the only reason that the real Brian Scalabrine played in the NBA was because he is white.
    By using the players NBA picture as his av, he is merely making yet another racist point in his long line of racist views.

    Meanwhile, this idiot continues to portray himself as a white man here on Covers, who is just lobbying for the rights of blacks. If the person typing all the nonsense truly believed in racial equality, perhaps he should start with being honest about the color of his own skin ... oh wait, he couldn't do that because then more people would recognize him as the racist that he is.

    Carry on   





     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 6:15 PM ET #238

    ass monkey i say
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 7:19 PM ET #239

    Everyone on this site is aware of Scabs opinion is on these matters. Yet he insists on rehashing his tired diatribe over and over and over again.I can only conclude it is because he is such an attention person because who in their right mind would be so concerned about what a website full of sports gamblers thinks about  his racial issues.He seems to be content to consider himself a big duck in this small pond because anyone who is so compassionate about these issues would be doing something out in the real world and wouldn't have time to waste typing away in here lo all these years for such little return.
         I also used to take him at his word that he was white but I no longer think so...it is all a facade.
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    Everyone on this site is aware of Scabs opinion is on these matters. Yet he insists on rehashing his tired diatribe over and over and over again.I can only conclude it is because he is such an attention person because who in their right mind would be so concerned about what a website full of sports gamblers thinks about  his racial issues.He seems to be content to consider himself a big duck in this small pond because anyone who is so compassionate about these issues would be doing something out in the real world and wouldn't have time to waste typing away in here lo all these years for such little return.
         I also used to take him at his word that he was white but I no longer think so...it is all a facade.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 9:52 PM ET #240

    Quote Originally Posted by ogmike:



    I guess this was the response I was sort of looking for from you.  So, we both can agree that discrimination affects both blacks and asians.  Well, I am an asian-american and have been personally affected by it in the past.  Yet I don't just sit here and complain all fucking day long about the white man and how unfair this world is.  Why complain when you can go out there and do something about it?  If you and many black people, and asians or hispanics for that matter, would just concentrate on yourself and take more control of your life, I think you and those people would less likely have such anger/hatred toward society.  Sure, racism still remains a part of the American mentality.  But, if people wanted to squash this mentality, they would do whatever possible to achieve and not fall into the stereotypes that seem to exist for a reason.



    I wouldn't concentrate on myself since I belong to the dominant cultural group in American society; the very one that dictates the social norms and laws by which all racial groups must acquiesce. 

    The problem with your last sentence is that you put the onus for racism on the ones who suffer because of it. The ethnic groups, religions, and races in this country are not responsible for allegedly 'failing to meet the white requirement' to be accepted into the larger society (ultimately as lesser inferiors, not equals) and the spoils that that accompany it. 
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    I guess this was the response I was sort of looking for from you.  So, we both can agree that discrimination affects both blacks and asians.  Well, I am an asian-american and have been personally affected by it in the past.  Yet I don't just sit here and complain all fucking day long about the white man and how unfair this world is.  Why complain when you can go out there and do something about it?  If you and many black people, and asians or hispanics for that matter, would just concentrate on yourself and take more control of your life, I think you and those people would less likely have such anger/hatred toward society.  Sure, racism still remains a part of the American mentality.  But, if people wanted to squash this mentality, they would do whatever possible to achieve and not fall into the stereotypes that seem to exist for a reason.



    I wouldn't concentrate on myself since I belong to the dominant cultural group in American society; the very one that dictates the social norms and laws by which all racial groups must acquiesce. 

    The problem with your last sentence is that you put the onus for racism on the ones who suffer because of it. The ethnic groups, religions, and races in this country are not responsible for allegedly 'failing to meet the white requirement' to be accepted into the larger society (ultimately as lesser inferiors, not equals) and the spoils that that accompany it. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 9:55 PM ET #241

    Quote Originally Posted by dopalicous:

    Scal is the fucking man boy.....Typing 180 WPM out here arguing with the world........

     Definitely can't type that fast after finding out that 212 wpm is the world record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dopalicous:

    Scal is the fucking man boy.....Typing 180 WPM out here arguing with the world........

     Definitely can't type that fast after finding out that 212 wpm is the world record.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 10:54 PM ET #242

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    I wouldn't concentrate on myself since I belong to the dominant cultural group in American society; the very one that dictates the social norms and laws by which all racial groups must acquiesce. 

    The problem with your last sentence is that you put the onus for racism on the ones who suffer because of it. The ethnic groups, religions, and races in this country are not responsible for allegedly 'failing to meet the white requirement' to be accepted into the larger society (ultimately as lesser inferiors, not equals) and the spoils that that accompany it. 

    Well said. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    I wouldn't concentrate on myself since I belong to the dominant cultural group in American society; the very one that dictates the social norms and laws by which all racial groups must acquiesce. 

    The problem with your last sentence is that you put the onus for racism on the ones who suffer because of it. The ethnic groups, religions, and races in this country are not responsible for allegedly 'failing to meet the white requirement' to be accepted into the larger society (ultimately as lesser inferiors, not equals) and the spoils that that accompany it. 

    Well said. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 10:59 PM ET #243

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoD69:


    Well said. 
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    Well said. 
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2011 - 11:16 PM ET #244

    Quote Originally Posted by CountNo_Account:

    Everyone on this site is aware of Scabs opinion is on these matters. Yet he insists on rehashing his tired diatribe over and over and over again.I can only conclude it is because he is such an attention person because who in their right mind would be so concerned about what a website full of sports gamblers thinks about  his racial issues.He seems to be content to consider himself a big duck in this small pond because anyone who is so compassionate about these issues would be doing something out in the real world and wouldn't have time to waste typing away in here lo all these years for such little return.
         I also used to take him at his word that he was white but I no longer think so...it is all a facade.

    I have no power or leverage to eradicate, or even mildly diminish something like systematic racism within the US court system, prison system, or corporate hiring practices without getting arrested myself. 

    As you can see, I can't even promote my ideas in a digital enclave without being censored. This is not surprising considering the class and racial make-up of the moderators. They find such topics distasteful and irritating because they gain nothing from allowing them to flourish.

    One must first and foremost speak out about the pernicious outcomes of racism that are largely unseen by the caucasian masses to even remotely approach mitigating them in any way.

    You may all be degenerate gamblers. But, for those who reside here, you are American citizens first. And until the zeitgeist of dominant society reaches a stage of enlightenment with regard to race (and a biracial presidency is not enlightenment ---conversely, it has enflamed racial tensions), the status quo will not be altered. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountNo_Account:

    Everyone on this site is aware of Scabs opinion is on these matters. Yet he insists on rehashing his tired diatribe over and over and over again.I can only conclude it is because he is such an attention person because who in their right mind would be so concerned about what a website full of sports gamblers thinks about  his racial issues.He seems to be content to consider himself a big duck in this small pond because anyone who is so compassionate about these issues would be doing something out in the real world and wouldn't have time to waste typing away in here lo all these years for such little return.
         I also used to take him at his word that he was white but I no longer think so...it is all a facade.

    I have no power or leverage to eradicate, or even mildly diminish something like systematic racism within the US court system, prison system, or corporate hiring practices without getting arrested myself. 

    As you can see, I can't even promote my ideas in a digital enclave without being censored. This is not surprising considering the class and racial make-up of the moderators. They find such topics distasteful and irritating because they gain nothing from allowing them to flourish.

    One must first and foremost speak out about the pernicious outcomes of racism that are largely unseen by the caucasian masses to even remotely approach mitigating them in any way.

    You may all be degenerate gamblers. But, for those who reside here, you are American citizens first. And until the zeitgeist of dominant society reaches a stage of enlightenment with regard to race (and a biracial presidency is not enlightenment ---conversely, it has enflamed racial tensions), the status quo will not be altered. 

     
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