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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2024 - 5:42 PM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness:

    Raiders (-1) @ SaintsI'm not sure you watch this game even if it was the only game playing this week. But it's a game listed in every sportsbook and, as such, I must present a brief write-up for it to honor the sanctity of the CD Newsletter. The first thing I'd like to bring up is the record for both clubs. The Raiders are dwelling at the bottom of their division, and are tied with the worst record in the AFC, along with the Jags, Titans, and Browns, as they sit at 3-12. They have only won 1 more game at home, which as of late hasn't been much of a homefield advantage for the Raiders. On the flip side, the Saints are sporting a 5-10 record and will probably lament over not being able to take advantage of such a weak division. (Both the Falcons and Buccs are atop the NFC South with a 8-7 record.) In a game where it's difficult to find angles, one could point to the fact that both teams will be searching for a franchise QB. Reports out of N'awlins is that it doesn't seem like the the Saints will be moving on from Carr next year. Perhaps the front office can point back to the injuries that have plagued the team and how Carr was able to lead the Saints past the Lions earlier in the season. He has 2 more years left on his contract and the Saints (again) are well over the cap next year. It would make sense to set the foundation for life after Carr -- whether it be a true franchise QB to sit and learn behind him, or someone to outright replace him next year. I suspect whomever the Saints end up hiring as HC next year will have a major say in this. (If not, I wouldn't want to work for a franchise with an all too controlling FO.) Speaking of Carr, the Saints will be facing his former team. This would've been the first game Carr would face against his old team had he been able to be healthy for it. Instead he'll just do the usual exchange of pleasantries with former teammates before and after the game. A major incentive ("the revenge angle") squandered when looking for betting angles! Antonio Pierce is probably not long for this job. Maxx Crosby has hinted he wants out. Mark Davis now has allowed for Tom Brady's input regarding moves. (To what extent, I don't know -- but I say let him provide talent evaluation for drafts and personnel recommendations.) This is probably why Pierce is playing to win. He's going to be playing for his next job as some type of coordinator or assistant coach. You could say the same for Darren Rizzi, the interim head coach of the Saints. He was a ST coordinator and assistant head coach prior to being elevated to interim manager. He'll either be playing to retain his previous titles or look to strengthen his resume for whichever other team decides to hire him.Why am I writing all this background stuff? Well, because what else do you write about when a 3-12 team faces a 5-10 team, with the head coaches and quarterbacks playing in this game? There's a significant difference in total DVOA between the two teams. Saints @ -8.6% vs Raiders @ -22.3% and nearly as bad when the VOA isn't adjusted. I don't really have any thoughts on this game, to be honest. If anyone else does, feel free to chime in. This game is one of a few Draft Bowls. Who'll get the higher pick?

     

    "Got 'em right where I want 'em, surrounded from the inside"
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    Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness:

    Raiders (-1) @ SaintsI'm not sure you watch this game even if it was the only game playing this week. But it's a game listed in every sportsbook and, as such, I must present a brief write-up for it to honor the sanctity of the CD Newsletter. The first thing I'd like to bring up is the record for both clubs. The Raiders are dwelling at the bottom of their division, and are tied with the worst record in the AFC, along with the Jags, Titans, and Browns, as they sit at 3-12. They have only won 1 more game at home, which as of late hasn't been much of a homefield advantage for the Raiders. On the flip side, the Saints are sporting a 5-10 record and will probably lament over not being able to take advantage of such a weak division. (Both the Falcons and Buccs are atop the NFC South with a 8-7 record.) In a game where it's difficult to find angles, one could point to the fact that both teams will be searching for a franchise QB. Reports out of N'awlins is that it doesn't seem like the the Saints will be moving on from Carr next year. Perhaps the front office can point back to the injuries that have plagued the team and how Carr was able to lead the Saints past the Lions earlier in the season. He has 2 more years left on his contract and the Saints (again) are well over the cap next year. It would make sense to set the foundation for life after Carr -- whether it be a true franchise QB to sit and learn behind him, or someone to outright replace him next year. I suspect whomever the Saints end up hiring as HC next year will have a major say in this. (If not, I wouldn't want to work for a franchise with an all too controlling FO.) Speaking of Carr, the Saints will be facing his former team. This would've been the first game Carr would face against his old team had he been able to be healthy for it. Instead he'll just do the usual exchange of pleasantries with former teammates before and after the game. A major incentive ("the revenge angle") squandered when looking for betting angles! Antonio Pierce is probably not long for this job. Maxx Crosby has hinted he wants out. Mark Davis now has allowed for Tom Brady's input regarding moves. (To what extent, I don't know -- but I say let him provide talent evaluation for drafts and personnel recommendations.) This is probably why Pierce is playing to win. He's going to be playing for his next job as some type of coordinator or assistant coach. You could say the same for Darren Rizzi, the interim head coach of the Saints. He was a ST coordinator and assistant head coach prior to being elevated to interim manager. He'll either be playing to retain his previous titles or look to strengthen his resume for whichever other team decides to hire him.Why am I writing all this background stuff? Well, because what else do you write about when a 3-12 team faces a 5-10 team, with the head coaches and quarterbacks playing in this game? There's a significant difference in total DVOA between the two teams. Saints @ -8.6% vs Raiders @ -22.3% and nearly as bad when the VOA isn't adjusted. I don't really have any thoughts on this game, to be honest. If anyone else does, feel free to chime in. This game is one of a few Draft Bowls. Who'll get the higher pick?

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2024 - 7:07 PM ET #127

    @undermysac

     Sac, I have not entirely given up on your D and few teams like to be embarrassed in a stand alone national game so I believed the effort would be there, combined with no Walker leaving more up to Geno and 4' in the pocket. Figured it was worth a shot. peace_5

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     Sac, I have not entirely given up on your D and few teams like to be embarrassed in a stand alone national game so I believed the effort would be there, combined with no Walker leaving more up to Geno and 4' in the pocket. Figured it was worth a shot. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2024 - 7:11 PM ET #128

    Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness:

    Chargers announced that Dobbins will be active for tomorrow's game against the Patriots. Gus Edwards is Out.Forecast is rain in Foxborough. Lots of running to be expected, but I don't think the Chargers will give Dobbins his full load. With Edwards out, it means Kimani Vidal and Hassan Haskins will get a good share of carries.Lean Chargers -4 because of the coveted 5th seed up for grabs. If the Steelers lose next week, and the Chargers win out, they'll face the Texas in Rd 1. That would be enough to inspire me to play hard. With next week's opponent being the Raiders, it also means they might be able to rest starters -- or do so at halftime if the Chargers have a comfortable lead. (Personally, I wouldn't even let up.)
    Dont see how Dobbins plays with out no practice at all.peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness:

    Chargers announced that Dobbins will be active for tomorrow's game against the Patriots. Gus Edwards is Out.Forecast is rain in Foxborough. Lots of running to be expected, but I don't think the Chargers will give Dobbins his full load. With Edwards out, it means Kimani Vidal and Hassan Haskins will get a good share of carries.Lean Chargers -4 because of the coveted 5th seed up for grabs. If the Steelers lose next week, and the Chargers win out, they'll face the Texas in Rd 1. That would be enough to inspire me to play hard. With next week's opponent being the Raiders, it also means they might be able to rest starters -- or do so at halftime if the Chargers have a comfortable lead. (Personally, I wouldn't even let up.)
    Dont see how Dobbins plays with out no practice at all.peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2024 - 7:14 PM ET #129

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    Dont see how Dobbins plays with out no practice at all.


    He's been practicing this week. Limited on Tuesday and logged a full practice yesterday. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    Dont see how Dobbins plays with out no practice at all.


    He's been practicing this week. Limited on Tuesday and logged a full practice yesterday. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2024 - 7:38 PM ET #130

    For fun, played these parlays on Christmas Day (first one) and the day after (second one).

    EDIT:  I can't copy and paste the tickets, apparently. Even when it's all text. I'll try again.

     

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    For fun, played these parlays on Christmas Day (first one) and the day after (second one).

    EDIT:  I can't copy and paste the tickets, apparently. Even when it's all text. I'll try again.

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2024 - 7:39 PM ET #131

    Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness:

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: Dont see how Dobbins plays with out no practice at all.He's been practicing this week. Limited on Tuesday and logged a full practice yesterday.
     peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness:

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1: Dont see how Dobbins plays with out no practice at all.He's been practicing this week. Limited on Tuesday and logged a full practice yesterday.
     peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2024 - 7:44 PM ET #132

    PARLAY (8 TEAMS)
    Ravens -325 W
    Chargers -220
    Bengals -176
    Rams -285
    Colts -380
    Commanders -205
    Buccs -385
    Vikings PK -110

    $50/$872

    OPEN PARLAY (8 Teams)
    Toledo +9.5 W
    Chargers -210
    Rams -290
    Vikings +4 (B+3)
    Syracuse -17.5 (B +.5)
    OPEN
    OPEN
    OPEN

    $52/$2888

    Winnings would go down on that open parlay once I add plays with loaded juice.

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    PARLAY (8 TEAMS)
    Ravens -325 W
    Chargers -220
    Bengals -176
    Rams -285
    Colts -380
    Commanders -205
    Buccs -385
    Vikings PK -110

    $50/$872

    OPEN PARLAY (8 Teams)
    Toledo +9.5 W
    Chargers -210
    Rams -290
    Vikings +4 (B+3)
    Syracuse -17.5 (B +.5)
    OPEN
    OPEN
    OPEN

    $52/$2888

    Winnings would go down on that open parlay once I add plays with loaded juice.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2024 - 8:04 PM ET #133

    I’ll try this again…..

     

    Saints ruled out RB Alvin Kamara and QB Derek Carr for Sunday’s game vs. the Raiders.

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    I’ll try this again…..

     

    Saints ruled out RB Alvin Kamara and QB Derek Carr for Sunday’s game vs. the Raiders.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2024 - 8:11 PM ET #134

    Quote Originally Posted by IntenseOperator:

    I’ll try this again…..   Saints ruled out RB Alvin Kamara and QB Derek Carr for Sunday’s game vs. the Raiders.


    I was wondering what the purpose of the quote was. lol

    I figured they'd be out (mentioned Carr not playing in the write-up), but thought Kamara was out for the season. Makes the game more dull, imo. Would've loved to see Carr play against his former team. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by IntenseOperator:

    I’ll try this again…..   Saints ruled out RB Alvin Kamara and QB Derek Carr for Sunday’s game vs. the Raiders.


    I was wondering what the purpose of the quote was. lol

    I figured they'd be out (mentioned Carr not playing in the write-up), but thought Kamara was out for the season. Makes the game more dull, imo. Would've loved to see Carr play against his former team. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2024 - 8:12 PM ET #135

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger_Eat_Ass:

    @iConsciousness Commanders Hope you hit both parlays


    'Preciate it! Honestly, there will most likely be one team to eff both of them up, but once in a while these hit for me.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger_Eat_Ass:

    @iConsciousness Commanders Hope you hit both parlays


    'Preciate it! Honestly, there will most likely be one team to eff both of them up, but once in a while these hit for me.  

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2024 - 10:03 PM ET #136

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    @undermysac  Sac, I have not entirely given up on your D and few teams like to be embarrassed in a stand alone national game so I believed the effort would be there, combined with no Walker leaving more up to Geno and 4' in the pocket. Figured it was worth a shot.

    What's weird is that the Seahawks in the 1Q were running all over the Bears, with ease. With that Chardinae guy. Then, they inexplicably stopped running. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:

    @undermysac  Sac, I have not entirely given up on your D and few teams like to be embarrassed in a stand alone national game so I believed the effort would be there, combined with no Walker leaving more up to Geno and 4' in the pocket. Figured it was worth a shot.

    What's weird is that the Seahawks in the 1Q were running all over the Bears, with ease. With that Chardinae guy. Then, they inexplicably stopped running. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2024 - 10:04 PM ET #137

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    Syracuse TT Over 18.5  ( 20u ) clover

     

    an_2drinks

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    2H :

     

    Syracuse TT Over 18.5  ( 20u ) clover

     

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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2024 - 1:40 AM ET #138

    @iConsciousness

     That cuse backdoor was nasty

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    @iConsciousness

     That cuse backdoor was nasty

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeebooger:

    @iConsciousness  That cuse backdoor was nasty
    Please don't tell me it was 4th down an_arsed

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeebooger:

    @iConsciousness  That cuse backdoor was nasty
    Please don't tell me it was 4th down an_arsed

     
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    15 seconds.......sad

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    15 seconds.......sad

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2024 - 7:33 AM ET #141

    This is how my bets has been since Christmas. Can’t seem to catch a break. Now I know how Sac feels. an_beatup

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    This is how my bets has been since Christmas. Can’t seem to catch a break. Now I know how Sac feels. an_beatup

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2024 - 7:46 AM ET #142

    https://www.instagram.com/p/DEG7QAHMcD-/?igsh=MWlyenBlemo1ZDZiMA==

    This is why drafting a qb at #1 is so dangerous.

    Bears fans on Thursday were chanting "sell the team"

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    https://www.instagram.com/p/DEG7QAHMcD-/?igsh=MWlyenBlemo1ZDZiMA==

    This is why drafting a qb at #1 is so dangerous.

    Bears fans on Thursday were chanting "sell the team"

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2024 - 11:55 AM ET #143

    Dobbin o56.5 rush yards @1.90  locked in

     

    Edwards out should mean regular work load for Dobbins

    Harbaugh said he looked great in practice all week

    Pats allowing 159.7 rush yards last 3 games and almost every lead back has been over 56 yards  vs them

     

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    Dobbin o56.5 rush yards @1.90  locked in

     

    Edwards out should mean regular work load for Dobbins

    Harbaugh said he looked great in practice all week

    Pats allowing 159.7 rush yards last 3 games and almost every lead back has been over 56 yards  vs them

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2024 - 11:57 AM ET #144

    @iConsciousness

     You shouldn't have vikings on that 8 teamer imo...bet the 7 big faves and take the money  if they all hit

     

    Vikings at -110 can be bet as a single bet since the odds are fine

     

    Basically not worth the risk of ruining the other 7 picks 

     

    Just something to consider down the road anyways

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    @iConsciousness

     You shouldn't have vikings on that 8 teamer imo...bet the 7 big faves and take the money  if they all hit

     

    Vikings at -110 can be bet as a single bet since the odds are fine

     

    Basically not worth the risk of ruining the other 7 picks 

     

    Just something to consider down the road anyways

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2024 - 12:06 PM ET #145

    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @iConsciousness  You shouldn't have vikings on that 8 teamer imo...bet the 7 big faves and take the money  if they all hit   Vikings at -110 can be bet as a single bet since the odds are fine   Basically not worth the risk of ruining the other 7 picks    Just something to consider down the road anyways

     

    doesnt matter Cuse won by 17....

    last play of the game...an_wink

    oh wait he had 2 parlays......peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @iConsciousness  You shouldn't have vikings on that 8 teamer imo...bet the 7 big faves and take the money  if they all hit   Vikings at -110 can be bet as a single bet since the odds are fine   Basically not worth the risk of ruining the other 7 picks    Just something to consider down the road anyways

     

    doesnt matter Cuse won by 17....

    last play of the game...an_wink

    oh wait he had 2 parlays......peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2024 - 12:39 PM ET #146

    @bigred84

     

     You best be on your best behavior cornholio  an_angel

     

    Don't make me send miracle whip a reload an_speechless

     

     

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    @bigred84

     

     You best be on your best behavior cornholio  an_angel

     

    Don't make me send miracle whip a reload an_speechless

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2024 - 12:46 PM ET #147

    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @iConsciousness  You shouldn't have vikings on that 8 teamer imo...bet the 7 big faves and take the money  if they all hit   Vikings at -110 can be bet as a single bet since the odds are fine   Basically not worth the risk of ruining the other 7 picks    Just something to consider down the road anyways

     

    Noted. Good advice, actually. I wanted it as close to a 1k payout as possible, and I feel like the Vikings win this matchup. But I like that general rule moving forward. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    @iConsciousness  You shouldn't have vikings on that 8 teamer imo...bet the 7 big faves and take the money  if they all hit   Vikings at -110 can be bet as a single bet since the odds are fine   Basically not worth the risk of ruining the other 7 picks    Just something to consider down the road anyways

     

    Noted. Good advice, actually. I wanted it as close to a 1k payout as possible, and I feel like the Vikings win this matchup. But I like that general rule moving forward. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2024 - 12:49 PM ET #148

    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    Dobbin o56.5 rush yards @1.90  locked in   Edwards out should mean regular work load for Dobbins Harbaugh said he looked great in practice all week Pats allowing 159.7 rush yards last 3 games and almost every lead back has been over 56 yards  vs them

     

    GL with this play. I'd certainly like to see him back in form before the playoffs. You're going to have to hope the Patriots keep it close to keep the touches for Dobbins going. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:

    Dobbin o56.5 rush yards @1.90  locked in   Edwards out should mean regular work load for Dobbins Harbaugh said he looked great in practice all week Pats allowing 159.7 rush yards last 3 games and almost every lead back has been over 56 yards  vs them

     

    GL with this play. I'd certainly like to see him back in form before the playoffs. You're going to have to hope the Patriots keep it close to keep the touches for Dobbins going. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2024 - 12:59 PM ET #149

    Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness:

    GL with this play. I'd certainly like to see him back in form before the playoffs. You're going to have to hope the Patriots keep it close to keep the touches for Dobbins going.

     

    I was skeptical at first. But then I check vidal and haskins carries with dobbins out the last 4 games...Harbaugh barely trusted them...so hoping Dobbins sees a good work load with edwards out

    If pats had better run d I wouldn't play it

    Starting safety peppers out for ne too which helps this

    Oddsmakers set his rush attempts at 13.5 which is a bit of a tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by iConsciousness:

    GL with this play. I'd certainly like to see him back in form before the playoffs. You're going to have to hope the Patriots keep it close to keep the touches for Dobbins going.

     

    I was skeptical at first. But then I check vidal and haskins carries with dobbins out the last 4 games...Harbaugh barely trusted them...so hoping Dobbins sees a good work load with edwards out

    If pats had better run d I wouldn't play it

    Starting safety peppers out for ne too which helps this

    Oddsmakers set his rush attempts at 13.5 which is a bit of a tell

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2024 - 1:02 PM ET #150

    @iConsciousness

     And no worries. Parlays are hard enough as it is. Always play a -110 odds on its own imo

    Don't get greedy on payout amounts as well, no point.

     

     

     

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    @iConsciousness

     And no worries. Parlays are hard enough as it is. Always play a -110 odds on its own imo

    Don't get greedy on payout amounts as well, no point.

     

     

     

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